First full body transplant is two years away ???

[singular_me]

if this ever comes true, finding transplants will be proven highly challenging as we can assume that the choice will go for a nice looking body... also from organ to body trafficking, there is only one step.

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26th February 2015

‘A surgeon says full-body transplants could become a reality in just two years.

Sergio Canavero, a doctor in Turin, Italy, has drawn up plans to graft a living person’s head on to a donor body and claims the procedures needed to carry out the operation are not far off.

Canavero hopes to assemble a team to explore the radical surgery in a project he is due to launch at a meeting for neurological surgeons in Maryland this June.

He has claimed for years that medical science has advanced to the point that a full body transplant is plausible, but the proposal has caused raised eyebrows, horror and profound disbelief in other surgeons.’

The Italian doctor, who recently published a broad outline of how the surgery could be performed, told New Scientist magazine that he wanted to use body transplants to prolong the lives of people affected by terminal diseases.

“If society doesn’t want it, I won’t do it. But if people don’t want it, in the US or Europe, that doesn’t mean it won’t be done somewhere else,” he said. “I’m trying to go about this the right way, but before going to the moon, you want to make sure people will follow you.”

Putting aside the considerable technical issues involved in removing a living person’s head, grafting it to a dead body, reviving the reconstructed person and retraining their brain to use thousands of unfamiliar spinal cord nerves, the ethics are problematic.

The history of transplantation is full of cases where people hated their new appendages and had them removed. The psychological burden of emerging from anaesthetic with an entirely new body is firmly in uncharted territory. Another hitch is that medical ethics boards would almost certainly not approve experiments in primates to test whether the procedure works.............


According to the procedure Canavero outlined this month, doctors would first cool the patient’s head and the donor’s body so their cells do not die during the operation. The neck is then cut through, the blood vessels linked up with thin tubes, and the spinal cord cut with an exceptionally sharp knife to minimise nerve damage. The recipient’s head is then moved on to the donor’s body.

The next stage is trickier. Canavero believes that the spinal cord nerves that would allow the recipient’s brain to talk to the donor’s body can be fused together using a substance called polyethylene glycol. To stop the patient moving, they must be kept in a coma for weeks. When they come round, Canavero believes they would be able to speak and feel their face, though he predicts they would need a year of physiotherapy before they could move the body.

“This is such an overwhelming project, the possibility of it happening is very unlikely,” Harry Goldsmith, professor of neurological surgery at the University of California, Davis, told the magazine.

more
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/feb/25/first-full-body-transplant-two-years-away-surgeon-claim

[midnight rambler]

Where would the donor bodies be coming from??

The only way I can see someone willing to donate a viable body would be someone who's dirt poor from a developing country who wants to provide for their family (in truth not very likely) and who with the resources to have such an operation is going to want to get a donor body from a dirt poor environment?

It's a ghoulish concept.

[EE_]

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.cinematical.com/media/2009/10/7-ray-milland.jpg

[aeondaze]

yea sure, just like those flying cars!

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/898bdde00efdcdb98df4c99db8f91fcd28567dbf/c=0-0-382-288&r=x383&c=540x380/local/-/media/USATODAY/test/2013/12/02//1386012017000-car.jpg

[mick silver]

http://www.battlegrip.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/frankenstein1-430x430.jpghttp://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=HN.607994029010652248&pid=1.7

[midnight rambler]

Where would the donor bodies be coming from??

The only way I can see someone willing to donate a viable body would be someone who's dirt poor from a developing country who wants to provide for their family (in truth not very likely) and who with the resources to have such an operation is going to want to get a donor body from a dirt poor environment?

It's a ghoulish concept.

The thought occurs they could just grow a (designer) clone - which is probably already being pursued by the likes of someone like David Rockefeller.

[singular_me]

imagination goes as far as one can stretch it, as long as one has the knowledge of course and knowledge is unlimited.

Flying Cars Coming Soon: Terrafugia Says Its First Vehicle Will Be Available in 2015

http://www.isciencetimes.com/articles/6196/20131014/flying-cars-coming-soon-terrafugia-transition-tfx.htm

[video=youtube;bp2TWNpTA7s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp2TWNpTA7s

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/the-filter/10480166/Could-flying-cars-soon-be-a-reality.html


yea sure, just like those flying cars!

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/898bdde00efdcdb98df4c99db8f91fcd28567dbf/c=0-0-382-288&r=x383&c=540x380/local/-/media/USATODAY/test/2013/12/02//1386012017000-car.jpg

[govcheetos]

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.cinematical.com/media/2009/10/7-ray-milland.jpg

That would suck.

[singular_me]

yeah, and then they can upload their memories into a computer, then transfer it back into the "new brain" (of cloned body).

am pretty sure they are pretty far in cloning humans.


The thought occurs they could just grow a (designer) clone - which is probably already being pursued by the likes of someone like David Rockefeller.

[Dogman]

The vids title "A megawatt of power lifts you" is misleading unless power on the ground sends power wireless to the vehicle without cooking the people in that vehicle.

A megawatt battery bank is frigging HUGE and weighs thousands of pounds.

Unless they can figgure out to make this car fly, it has a one megawatt output.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7365&stc=1

Hell been waiting for this one to go into production for the last 40 years and still no joy!

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7364&stc=1

[singular_me]

never say never... it is the main reason why mainstream academia keeps fooling us all. There are too many "special interests" vested in keeping the oil cartel on life support and this has delayed research by at least 100 years. edit: but they use high tech for their secret programs.

watch: who killed the electric car.... how they killed it 60 years or so ago. Banking on obsolescence is another great evil in this world.


The vids title "A megawatt of power lifts you" is misleading unless power on the ground sends power wireless to the vehicle without cooking the people in that vehicle.

A megawatt battery bank is frigging HUGE and weighs thousands of pounds.

Unless they can figgure out to make this car fly, it has a one megawatt output.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7365&stc=1

Hell been waiting for this one to go into production for the last 40 years and still no joy!

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7364&stc=1

[singular_me]

half way there... an hybrid model... never say never...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeQL-dUjlOg

[midnight rambler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFhsrbtQObI

[singular_me]

yeah in the 50s while the electric car was set to take over, they chose gas engine models because there was more money to make with auto parts.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFhsrbtQObI

[Dogman]

half way there... an hybrid model... never say never...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeQL-dUjlOg

Nice, but a runway or long flat stretch of land or such to take off, so limited, The ultimate one would be vertical take off and landing capability, no runways needed AND be drivable on streets with out a huge prop spinning, which a ducted fan is the answer tho they would be noisy as all hell and damnation, Tho the fold up plane is neat because it can be driven on the streets.


Still a long way to go, and prices would need to come into the range of regular cars and trucks and be able to run on regular gasoline and not aviation grade fuels.

[mick silver]

the knowledge maybe there but the likes of us will never see it they will hide it like every things

[ximmy]

seems better to just replace the memory with your own in a younger body and brain.

otherwise there will be ugly heads attached to perfect bodies

[monty]

The vids title "A megawatt of power lifts you" is misleading unless power on the ground sends power wireless to the vehicle without cooking the people in that vehicle.

A megawatt battery bank is frigging HUGE and weighs thousands of pounds.

Unless they can figgure out to make this car fly, it has a one megawatt output.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7365&stc=1

Hell been waiting for this one to go into production for the last 40 years and still no joy!

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7364&stc=1
They are probably refering to the metric equivalent of the horsepower of the engine measured in kilowatts, not necessarily battery power. All modern diesel engines are rated both in horsepower and in kilowatts. For example a 50 HP engine is rate 37 kW.

edit to add: yes a megawatt of power would cook the occupants, wheather it was a jet engine or electric power or gasoline. The engine or motor would be huge.

[singular_me]

dogman, you/we do NOT know how exactly advanced our technology is.... they already have UFOs, which you do not want to hear about, I know.

the mainstream is held hostage by the oil cartel.

I would say that cars should be using supraconductivity/elctromagnetism by now. In practical terms there is better than flying cars, but I am sure they will be invented and sooner than we think. dont believe flying cars will need an explosion engine though.

thinking of "oil" when thinking of engines is outdated.


Nice, but a runway or long flat stretch of land or such to take off, so limited, The ultimate one would be vertical take off and landing capability, no runways needed AND be drivable on streets with out a huge prop spinning, which a ducted fan is the answer tho they would be noisy as all hell and damnation, Tho the fold up plane is neat because it can be driven on the streets.


Still a long way to go, and prices would need to come into the range of regular cars and trucks and be able to run on regular gasoline and not aviation grade fuels.

[Neuro]

They are probably refering to the metric equivalent of the horsepower of the engine measured in kilowatts, not necessarily battery power. All modern diesel engines are rated both in horsepower and in kilowatts. For example a 50 HP engine is rate 37 kW.

edit to add: yes a megawatt of power would cook the occupants, wheather it was a jet engine or electric power or gasoline. The engine or motor would be huge.
A megawatt engine would be about 1400 Hp, a 600 kg F1 car has what? 800 Hp?

This electric motorcycle breaking the speed record on a quarter mile has 1340 HP:
http://www.themarysue.com/electric-motorcycle-speed-record/

[Dogman]

Don't we all just love a meaningful and thoughtful cussing and discussion thread and session!

;)

[monty]

What has all this got to do with full body transplants?

[Dogman]

What has all this got to do with full body transplants?


This is gsus typical!

Don't ya know!

We can start say with ice formation then work our way through stellar core temperature's with current ideals on how to build a better mouse trap with a dash of the metaphysical thrown in as spice!

All in one thread!

Nothing new, carry on!

;)

[Cebu_4_2]

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/06/18/business/19thomas-600.jpg

[singular_me]

yeah I derailed it... because aeon's meaningless statement and the dogman defending the latter.

sorry folks... now back on track, if it is not too late



http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/06/18/business/19thomas-600.jpg

[Dogman]

yeah I derailed it... because aeon's meaningless statement and the dogman defending the latter.

sorry folks... now back on track, if it is not too late



Zzzzzzz snort! What? Blink, blink, yawn, zzzzzzzzzz!

;)

[singular_me]

as long as this thread remains about biology and surgeries of the future and body augmentation, I am fine with it

it is often not possible to stick to the OP when a theme like this one teases the imagination so much.


This is gsus typical!

Don't ya know!

We can start say with ice formation then work our way through stellar core temperature's with current ideals on how to build a better mouse trap with a dash of the metaphysical thrown in as spice!

All in one thread!

Nothing new, carry on!

;)

[Dogman]

as long as this thread remain about biology and surgeries of the future, I am fine with it

it is often not possible to stick to the OP when a theme like this one teases the imagination



Zzzzzz what? Oh! Yes mam, you are right mam, there was no excuse mam!

Yawn!

Zzzzzzzzzz

[singular_me]

I said my responsibility, should not have answered aeon's posting in the first place


Zzzzzzz snort! What? Blink, blink, yawn, zzzzzzzzzz!

;)

[Dogman]

I said my responsibility, should not have answered aeon's posting in the first place



Lol!

Grin!

[Glass]

I keep wondering about this Doc. I have a recollection from several years ago of some other bizzare operation being pushed by a Doc from that part of the world. I can't remember what it was about but I wonder if it's the same Doc. This guy has been talking about this since 2013, so a couple years already passed.

I can't help but think of this
http://www.veryicon.com/icon/png/Movie%20%26%20TV/Futurama%20Vol.%205%20-%20Heads%20In%20Jars/Richard%20Nixon%27s%20Head.png
And then this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t8hpEKb4gk

hopefully we are still on the rails.

[Neuro]

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/06/18/business/19thomas-600.jpg
WTF does Thomas the tank engine have to do with any of this! ;D

[Neuro]

My prediction is that experimenting with full body transplants will kill two people at a time until it is deemed impossible... Since ethics is out of the equation it may take a long time, probably the procedure will have backers with very deep pockets...

[Glass]

I think that is a fair prediction.

What happens when people start expressing their body envy. Will we be facing the Rise of the Body Snatchers?

Where is the Fat Controller?

[Santa]

seems better to just replace the memory with your own in a younger body and brain.

How would this be any different than demonic possession?