"Society Trap" - Joe Rogan

[singular_me]

what we see in the world is not representative of the human nature but the consequence of a programing.

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excerpt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvfy5Enz6-c

[Glass]

Everyone wants someone else to give them a job. Yesterday I was reading about a 50+ year old IT guy who was retrenched a couple years ago. He's been looking for a job. He's volunteering with disabled people now and is hoping to get a job doing that.

He's given up looking for a job in IT now. I'm sitting there thinking... why is he waiting for someone else to give him a job. He should make up his own job and do that. That is what I did. I can't sit around waiting for someone to give me a job. Also I would then have to fit into the culture of those places that I worked in. If it was a big place it would be worse than a smaller place because of the culture but you have to fit in.

Why would you want someone else to give you a job. It wouldn't be your job, it would always be their job. The video talks about life change, that big event that changed everything. Lot of swearing but looks like it could be worth watching.

[Shami-Amourae]

Most people aren't smart enough to figure this out. This happened to me when I left my last job and decided to try to survive on the money on my little side business making video game content, now I do that for a living.

[Jewboo]

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"One of the recurring themes in his work and life is the use and support of entheogens (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entheogens), such as cannabis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_%28drug%29), psilocybin mushrooms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybin_mushrooms) and DMT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyltryptamine), toward the exploration and enhancement of consciousness (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consciousness).[41] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Rogan#cite_note-41) Rogan supports the medical and recreational use of cannabis.[42] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Rogan#cite_note-42) He has also starred in the marijuana documentary The Union: The Business Behind Getting High (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Union:_The_Business_Behind_Getting_High).[43] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Rogan#cite_note-43) Rogan was featured in the History Channel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_%28U.S._TV_channel%29) documentary, Marijuana: A Chronic History, as an advocate of legalized medical use of marijuana."


Without these factory "jobs" Rogan would simply build his own car so he can drive down to Taco Bell for his pot-induced munchies? Oh wait...nobody at Taco Bell either so Rogan would make his own taco...lol.


:rolleyes:

[singular_me]

whatever he does it is HIS choice, however I challenge you to debunk the message and based on what he says, I really dont mind his background

go back to your 7th thrump thread, you are at home there :)

attacking the messenger is so much easier, right.

if the word "consciousness" just evokes something evil to you, then you are just anti-freedom.

[Shami-Amourae]

"One of the recurring themes in his work and life is the use and support of entheogens (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entheogens), such as cannabis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_%28drug%29), psilocybin mushrooms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybin_mushrooms) and DMT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyltryptamine), toward the exploration and enhancement of consciousness (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consciousness).[41] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Rogan#cite_note-41) Rogan supports the medical and recreational use of cannabis.[42] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Rogan#cite_note-42) He has also starred in the marijuana documentary The Union: The Business Behind Getting High (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Union:_The_Business_Behind_Getting_High).[43] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Rogan#cite_note-43) Rogan was featured in the History Channel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_%28U.S._TV_channel%29) documentary, Marijuana: A Chronic History, as an advocate of legalized medical use of marijuana."


Without these factory "jobs" Rogan would simply build his own car so he can drive down to Taco Bell for his pot-induced munchies? Oh wait...nobody at Taco Bell either so Rogan would make his own taco...lol.


:rolleyes:

A lot of "those jobs" are being automated out of existence.

When a young person comes of age they may go out into the workforce. The only jobs that might be available to them are fast food or retail, but increasingly those jobs are being filled by middle aged and older people. The pay is not enough to survive on so they continue living with their parents. They are fed a line of propaganda they have to go to college to get a corporate job so they can live a lifestyle like their parents with a house and a car, so they do that and get into a ton of debt with a useless degree and no job. They are forced back out into the market of minimum wage jobs where they started.

The point is that human capital is becoming more and more worthless and people feel like they are failures because they can't get ahead. A lot of the entry level jobs are being replaced by machines/software and this is happening at an exponential rate. We are getting to the point where there's going to be a tiny few with corporate jobs, and a majority of the population on some sort of welfare. This is not a temporary thing, it's here to stay as long as our technology is as advanced as it is.

Right now the only way to really get ahead is you either have some solid connections and can get a nice corporate job, or you start your own business. You really don't have many options, and the younger you are the harder it is to just grab onto the ladder so you can climb it. I don't think you can understand how this feels unless you're from a younger generation.

[Hitch]

A lot of "those jobs" are being automated out of existence.

When a young person comes of age they may go out into the workforce. The only jobs that might be available to them are fast food or retail, but increasingly those jobs are being filled by middle aged and older people. The pay is not enough to survive on so they continue living with their parents. They are fed a line of propaganda they have to go to college to get a corporate job so they can live a lifestyle like their parents with a house and a car, so they do that and get into a ton of debt with a useless degree and no job. They are forced back out into the market of minimum wage jobs where they started.

The point is that human capital is becoming more and more worthless and people feel like they are failures because they can't get ahead. A lot of the entry level jobs are being replaced by machines/software and this is happening at an exponential rate. We are getting to the point where there's going to be a tiny few with corporate jobs, and a majority of the population on some sort of welfare. This is not a temporary thing, it's here to stay as long as our technology is as advanced as it is.

Right now the only way to really get ahead is you either have some solid connections and can get a nice corporate job, or you start your own business. You really don't have many options, and the younger you are the harder it is to just grab onto the ladder so you can climb it. I don't think you can understand how this feels unless you're from a younger generation.

Shami I agree, yet also disagree with what you are saying.

The jobs being automated out of existence, are actually productive jobs. Like Book said, there's a guy to make tacos for you. He's being productive, actually making something of value, that can be sold to someone for a profit. From tacos to building cars, to building bridges.

These are the jobs that should not be going away. The jobs that should be going away are the corporate, sit on your fat ass and plug numbers into computers, jobs. Those are the "created out of thin air" worthless existence jobs.

[Glass]

I think there was an interesting word in that video and it seems to be a meme for the thread.

Contribution

Our society is Consumption. Consumption by it's nature is destruction or destructive. It consumes things. It depreciates or destroys something(s)

Contribution creates things. You could say corporations are Contributing but I think they are Consuming.

The things mentioned here that should not be going away but are, are the Contributing things. We are left with the Consumption things. Destruction.

[singular_me]

nobody is profiting in this economy but the NWO. And moreover who has ever really profited from boom and bust cycles?

the system has been pure slavery for a very long while now. In a NWO free society, it remains to be seen as to whether people who still work for fast food as college costs would be a lot cheaper. When a system allows very little freedom people survive just the way they can... humans have never experienced a society without globalist rulers, wars and taxation, over consumption, hyper-materialism, etc. we have had 4000 years of this slave mindset. small govs have never lasted long enough to see a big social change.

that are profits and speculation that brought us here so they cannot be part of the solution.

In a sane society, having automatons in fast foods would be a VERY good idea, really, and poverty would be minimalistic


Shami I agree, yet also disagree with what you are saying.

The jobs being automated out of existence, are actually productive jobs. Like Book said, there's a guy to make tacos for you. He's being productive, actually making something of value, that can be sold to someone for a profit. From tacos to building cars, to building bridges.

These are the jobs that should not be going away. The jobs that should be going away are the corporate, sit on your fat ass and plug numbers into computers, jobs. Those are the "created out of thin air" worthless existence jobs.

[Hitch]

nobody is profiting in this economy but the NWO. And moreover who has ever really profited from boom and bust cycles?

the system has been pure slavery for a very long while now.

The system is slavery, but we are as free as we choose to be.

It starts with our minds, and goes from there.

Yes, it is slavery if you are part of their system. You are free when you are not part of their system.

[singular_me]

in the end the challenge doesnt go away... freedom and regarding ignorance as evil ... or failure to take responsibility and suffer slavery - we choose?

the way we regard society today is completely distorted and has no solutions to offer, the model has to go

[expat4ever]

I was just thinking as a society we havent done shit in 20 years at least. Most people go to useless jobs day after day doing shit they hate doing so they can get some monopoly money to buy useless shit that has no meaning or purpose. Wow you can text your friends that you have just bought the latest and greatest useless piece of shit phone and it only costs you 100 bucks a month.
As a society we keep fucking up the planet, the air quality sucks in most places and the water comes from a sewage plant in most cities. Then we wonder why were sick all the time. Of course that creates another useless industry that feeds you pills that normally make you sicker so the Dr's and nurses can stay in business. Then the Gov gets involved to regulate the shit out of everything and make more useless laws that mean nothing but in doing so creates a whole nother industry of law enforcement, lawyers, judges, da's, probate, prisons and all the mechanisms that go into maintaining those industries.

Of course it al starts with kids starting the gov indoctrination programs at age5. we spend 120k to put these kids through school so they can come out HS graduates and be qualified to do nothing in societies eyes because they dont have a college degree. Of course they could be educated at a migh higher standard say starting at age 12 because from there on out school is borong as shit to most because they learn squat about life in general and they already know they are being fed useless bullshit so they can score high enough on some standard bullshit gov test so the teachers can keep their jobs. ....Then its off to start life as a debt slave, 4 yrs of college and 100k later they now have a degree so they can go out and get that high paying 30k a year job doing meaningless bullshit in a 6x6 cubicle for 8 or 10 hrs a day............

This is modern society.

Or we can go back to an agrarian society and grow and produce our own food, make products of and from the earth like pottery and other crafts that are actually usefull in life. Raise and spend time loving and nurturing our own children instead of sending them off to indictrination camps. More time to enjoy life, a cleaner environment, happier healthier people.

[ximmy]

It's a strange world that Joe doesn't seem to understand, Very few there are that invent, manage, manufacture, and provide jobs. Most sheeple need jobs. The industrial revolution provided that. The United States became great by this. Immigrants from the third world flocked to the US for a factory job.

When governed right, production, good wage, good profit could have sustained us for many more years than it has. We have been sold out by a few persons holding power and wielding it to their own advantage.
Contemptible persons, without honor, seizing power by intrigue. Acting deceitfully, and with only a few like-minded persons, they rose to power. Selling out our manufacturing industries to third world slave labor for some extra dollars. Distributing the profit, plunder, loot and wealth among their followers, taking away jobs from the homeland to the destruction of the nation.
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[Ponce]

Is easy to make $1,000 a months or 1000,000 a month.....the hard part for most is how to handle and keep what they have, and that was my problem long ago....till I read "The Richest Man In Babylon".....that was an my awakening moment and it was when with only $58.00 I was able to retired in 6 years.

I now live only out of my $1,065.00 dollars a month from my SS and even put away $600.00 a month from that.

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[EE_]

There's still lots of good manufacturing jobs in the US. Here are the top 25...

#25 CACI International

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Global satellite communications equipment supports military intelligence.

Arms sales: $2.3 billion

Total profit: $107 million

Employees: 13,100 people

While CACI International doesn't make weapons, they supply the U.S. Army with an information lifeline.

The TROJAN satellite communication systems provide the Army with a global network of shared mission-critical intelligence.

Source: SIPRI

#24 Goodrich

Goodrich Corporation
ACES II Aircrew Escape System

Arms sales: $2.2 billion

Total profit: $579 million

Employees: 16,300 people

Goodrich is yet another company to get a piece of the F-35 Lightning II cake. They work on the fighter aircraft's landing system.

The U.S. Air Force trusts Goodrich with making their ejection seat of choice, the ACES II. It is most widely used ejection seat today and is credited with saving more than 600 lives.

#23 DynCorp International

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DI personnel unload a propeller to be put on an Army CH-47D Chinook

Arms sales: $2.4 billion

Total profit: $9 million

Employees: 23,000 people

DynCorp International provides logistical support to the U.S. government defense programs.

In Afghanistan, they are engaged in removing and destroying landmines and light weapons.

They are also involved with supporting air operations and have big contracts with the Department of Defense to maintain rotary and fixed-wing aircraft for all U.S. military branches.

Source: SIPRI

#22 Navistar Defense

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Arms sales: $2.4 billion

Total profit: $223 million

Employees: 18,700 people

Navistar Defense is all about military-strength trucks and engines.

Their MaxxPro (Maximum Protection) product line includes MRAP (Mine Resistant Ambush Protection) vehicles used by the U.S. Marine Corps and the Army. The ambush-protected vehicle has a V-shaped hull to deflect IED blasts away from the troops inside.

#21 ManTech

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ManTech expertise covers ground, airborne and space systems.

Arms sales: $2.5 billion

Total profit: $125 million

Employees: 10,100 people

ManTech serves the United States government's advanced technological needs, from maintaining military surveillance systems to detecting incoming attacks on bases. They're a leading provider of C41SR technology.

The company started off in 1968 by developing the U.S. Navy's war-gaming models.

#20 Hewlett-Packard

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Arms sales: $2.6 billion

Total profit: $8.7 billion

Employees: 324,600 people

They do more than office supplies and printers.

Hewlett-Packard (HP) is the creator of the Navy Marine Corps Intranet which connects more than 700,000 military and civilian employee accounts, facilitating secure defense communications.

It's network size is second only to the Internet itself.

#19 Textron

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Soldiers loading a OH-58D Kiowa Warrior helicopter

Arms sales: $2.7 billion

Total profit: $86 million

Employees: 32,000 people

Textron owns a number of successful brands, such as Bell Helicopters, Cessna Aircraft Company, and Textron Systems, known for drones and armored vehicles.

They are the makers of the OH-58D Kiowa Warrior helicopter, which the U.S. Army uses in Afghanistan for armed reconnaissance and light air combat missions. It replaced the AH-Cobra attack helicopter as a scout aircraft for air cavalry troops. Two Kiowa Warriors can fit inside a C-130.

#18 Rockwell Collins

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Arms sales: $2.9 billion

Total profit: $561 million

Employees: 20,000 people

Rockwell Collins focuses on navigation, communications, and aviation electronics - anything from a helmet-mounted device to a flight deck display on the colossal C-130 tanker transport aircraft.

As a big customer, the U.S. Army uses the Defense Advanced GPS Receiver, a handheld navigational device for soldiers in the field.

#17 ATK

ATK
5.56mm M855 small caliber ammunition

Arms sales: $2.9 billion

Total profit: $313 million

Employees: 15,000 people

Known as ATK, this defense company is the largest provider of ammunition to the U.S. military and its allies.

From the Lake City Army Ammunition Plant in Missouri, ATK can produce up to 1.4 billion rounds of small-caliber ammunition per year.

The U.S. Navy has chosen ATK to develop their Advanced Anti-Radiation Guided Missile (AARGM).

#16 URS

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U.S. Army aviation personnel are trained at Fort Rucker, Alabama.

Arms sales: $3 billion

Total profit: $288 million

Employees: 47,000 people

URS is a world leader in the disposal of weapons of mass destruction.

They partner with Raytheon (#5) in the Joint, Test, Tactics, and Training (JT3) program which supports the testing and training for weapons systems such as the F-35 Lightning we keep mentioning

URS also oversees the U.S. military's Basic Combat Skills Training Course, and are responsible for training aviators from the Army, Air Force, NATO and more than 30 other U.S. allies.

You'll be seeing much more of URS around the world, as they're also behind the design of all future U.S. embassies.

#15 KBR

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A Blue Angels pilot over Pensacola's Naval Air Station

Arms sales: $3.3 billion

Total profit: $327 million

Employees: 35,000 people

KBR's defense portfolio focuses on base operations support and maintenance services to military facilities and equipment. The U.S. Navy had KBR lead recovery and repair efforts after Hurricane Ivan destroyed parts of Naval Air Station Pensacola, Florida, in September 2004.

They're also involved in homeland security, providing systems to help secure borders.

#14 ITT Exelis

ITT Exelis
ITT technology is used for mission critical communications

Arms sales: $4 billion

Total profit: $654 million

Employees: 40,000 people

The corporation's defense branch is called Exelis and is currently partnered with Boeing in a competition to develop the U.S. military's Next Generation Jammer (NGJ) array transmitter technology.

The NGJ program aims to give U.S. troops total dominance of the electronic battlefield with the ability to disable enemy communications and radars.

The company also develops the Joint Tactical Radio System's Bowman Waveform, which allows U.S. forces to communicate securely with U.K. troops.

#13 Pratt & Whitney

Pratt & Whitney
The F135 engine in all its glory.

Arms sales: $4 billion

Total profit: Contributed to parent company United Technologies' $4.7 billion

Employees: 35,000 people

Pratt & Whitney produces military engines and is responsible for the F135 engine in Lockheed Martin's F-35 Lightning II strike fighter plane, which is slated to be the Allied fighter of the 21st century.

The company also has engines in the F-22 Raptor, the C-17 Globemaster III, the B-52, and the EA-6B Prowler among other aircrafts. Their impressive client list includes 27 armed forces around the world.

#12 General Electric

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Electronic warfare specialists from the British Armed Forces

Arms sales: $4.3 billion

Total profit: $11.6 billion

Employees: 287,000 people

General Electric makes electronic warfare its business. The company's defense program is focusing on military communications systems that meet the modern threat of hacking and network sabotage.

They also design products that protect both military systems and the people operating them. The IPS5100 can be used in armored vehicles to give troops 360° situational awareness with the help of panoramic imagery that can be manipulated by touch screen, joystick and game-style controller. Operators can "interact" with the imagery and have eyes on the theatre of operation while staying protected in-vehicle.

#11 Honeywell

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Chinook helicopters deliver supplies to frontline troops

Arms sales: $5.4 billion

Total profit: $2 billion

Employees: 130,000 people

Honeywell's military arm supplies engine parts for anything from the Abrams M1 Main Battle Tank (General Dynamics) and the CH-47 Chinook (Boeing) helicopter, to weapons systems designed by other defense companies that made this list.

Name any U.S. Air Force aircraft, and you will likely find Honeywell products within its engineering.

Honeywell also comes up with covert solutions for guided weapons when relying on GPS is out of the question. Bottom line is: they make military stuff work.

#10 Computer Sciences Corp

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CSC supports U.S. Navy aviation simulator training.

Arms sales: $6 billion

Total profit: $759 million

Employees: 91,000 people

With a focus on technology-based solutions, the CSC's aerospace and defense sector is booming. Among its portfolios, it is responsible for training and simulation services for the U.S. military.

In January this year, the U.S. Navy awarded CSC a $60 million dollar task order to instruct naval aviation simulator training programs.

The U.S. Army has previously used CSC for designing battlefield simulations to help improve survivability by training soldiers and medics to save lives while under fire.



#9 Oshkosh

Oshkosh Defense
Keeping pace with rapidly moving forces.

Arms sales: $7 billion

Total profit: $790 million

Employees: 12,400 people

Oshkosh Truck's defense branch is responsible for delivering severe-duty tactical and armored vehicles.

The U.S. Marine Corps recently placed a $94 million dollar order for more than 200 Oshkosh LVSR (Logistics Vehicle System Replacement) cargo trucks, the Corps' heavy-payload platform of choice since it first debuted in Afghanistan in 2009.

#8 SAIC

SAIC
SAIC cyber defense services detect and counter e-attacks

Arms sales: $8.2 billion

Total profit: $618 million

Employees: 43,400 people

SAIC's national security sector provides the Department of Defense, the FBI and other U.S. government civil agencies with engineering systems and anti-terrorism technologies.

The SAIC Force Protection Suite, an integrated surveillance system, is used by U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan to decide when and how to respond to enemy threat.

#7 United Technologies

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Black Hawk helicopters serving the U.S. Army in Afghanistan.

Arms sales: $11.4 billion

Total profit: $4.7 billion

Employees: 208,220 people

United Technologies' military services business is most noted for the UH-60 Black Hawk helicopter, manufactured by subsidiary Sikorsky Aircraft.

The corporation also develops technology for aerospace and building industries.

#6 L-3 Communications

L-3 Communications
SPYDR is an Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) beast.

Arms sales: $13 billion

Total profit: $95.5 million

Employees: 63,000 people

The company's C3ISR (Command, Control, Communications, Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance) solutions are used by all branches of the U.S. military.

L-3 Communications says their small manned airborne intelligence-gathering platform, aptly named SPYDR, is the most versatile and inescapable in the world. It casts a "web" that captures mission-critical intelligence about its targets and delivers the information in real time.

#5 Raytheon

Raytheon
Raytheon's guided missile system.

Arms sales: $23 billion

Total profit: $1.9 billion

Employees: 46,900 people

Raytheon's sectors of expertise are missiles and electronics.

Their intelligence and information systems are used by the Missile Defence Agency, NASA, the Department of Defense and even the United Kingdom's Border Agency.

#4 General Dynamics

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The Abrams M1 Main Battle Tank

Arms sales: $24 billion

Total profit: $2.6 billion

Employees: 90,000 people

General Dynamics produces military vehicles such as the legendary Abrams M1 Main Battle Tank, as well as ships, munitions, and military-grade communication systems.

The company has also been awarded an $8 million dollar contract for work on U.S. Navy nuclear-powered attack submarines.

#3 Northrop Grumann

Northrop Grumann
Crew working inside the E-2C Hawkeye, the "eyes" of the U.S. Navy fleet.

Arms sales: $28 billion

Total profit: $2 billion

Employees: 117,100 people

Northrop Grumann's areas of focus include drones and cyber security in support of its homeland security solutions.

They also develop CBRNE (Chemical, Biological, Radiological, Nuclear and Explosives) detection systems in place around the U.S. to identify potential threats.

The corporation recently pledged to further deepen its commitment to hiring former service members, in partnership with President Obama's Joining Forces initiative to integrate more veterans into the civilian workforce.

#2 Boeing

Boeing
Air Force One, the most recognized symbol of the U.S. presidency.

Arms sales: $31.4 billion

Total profit: $2.9 billion

Employees: 160,500 people

The military arm of Boeing's business is most known for the Global Strike military aircraft program.

It supplies the U.S. military and other international forces with the likes of the AH-64D Apache combat helicopter, drones, missiles like the A160T Hummingbird, and the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet strike fighter.

The U.S. Air Force favors the F-15E Strike Eagle, which has a perfect air-to-air combat record so far with more than a hundred victories and no losses.

#1 Lockheed Martin

Lockheed Martin
The F35-A test fleet stationed at Edwards Air Force Base.

Arms sales: $35.7 billion

Total profit: $2.9 billion

Employees: 132,000 people

Lockheed Martin's main weapons system is the F-35 joint strike fighter, expected to become one of the world's largest military aircraft programs.

In expanding their F-35 program, Lockheed Martin opened a manufacturing facility in Pinellas Park, Florida, to develop parts for the F-35 Lightning II fighter.



All these jobs produce more efficient ways to kill mostly brown people. That what we do here in the good ol USA.

[mick silver]

EE all those companys kill people

[EE_]

EE all those companys kill people

That's what our country does best!
We create enemies and then we kill them, the elite profits...we're exceptional!
Dead US soldiers are just the cost of doing business.