Police fatally shoot black teen in Madison, Wisconsin

[mick silver]

http://news.yahoo.com/video/police-fatally-shoot-black-teen-100409473.html Police fatally shoot black teen in Madison, Wisconsin by Reuters Videos (http://www.reuters.com/) 1:23 mins Wisconsin police fatally shoot an apparently unarmed black teenager. Julie Noce reports

[Spectrism]

http://news.yahoo.com/video/police-fatally-shoot-black-teen-100409473.html Police fatally shoot black teen in Madison, Wisconsin

by Reuters Videos (http://www.reuters.com/) 1:23 mins Wisconsin police fatally shoot an apparently unarmed black teenager. Julie Noce reports

But you have to watch the video to learn that this "teen" engaged the cop in a fight. There was a "physical struggle". Any cop knows that if he is rendered unconscious, it would mean that his weapon will be taken and not only he but others could be killed.

If it gets to the point of fighting a cop, expect it to end in a bad way for someone.

[midnight rambler]

Al Sharpton show up yet?

[mick silver]

Wisconsin police fatally shoot black teen, prompting protest Reuters) - Wisconsin police fatally shot an apparently unarmed African-American teenager on Friday, prompting dozens of people to protest at the site of the killing, according to police and videos published on social media.


Madison Police Chief Mike Koval told reporters that an officer responded to a disturbance at around 6:30 p.m. local time and later forced his way into an apartment that the 19-year-old, who was also suspected of a recent battery, had gone into.
Koval said that a struggle between the suspect and the officer ensued and the teen was fatally shot, according to a recording of the news conference published by broadcaster WKOW.
"The initial finding at the scene did not reflect a gun or anything of that nature that would have been used by the subject," Koval said.
The shooting comes at a time of heightened scrutiny of police violence against minorities across the country. Protests have been held in Los Angeles and Washington state in recent days over police killings of unarmed men from minority groups.
Videos published on social media showed around 100 protesters at the scene of the shooting chanting slogans like, "Who can you trust? Not the police," in front of a row of officers.
Many of the demonstrators then moved the protest to inside the Madison City County building, according to videos published on Twitter. It was not immediately clear if there were any arrests.
The Wisconsin State Journal newspaper reported that friends of the teenager, identified as Anthony "Tony" Robinson by demonstrators, gathered at the site and said he was a happy person.
"I still can't even fully wrap my head around this," 17-year-old Jack Spaulding told the Journal.
Koval did not identify the suspect during the news conference.
Madison Mayor Paul Soglin told the Journal that there would be an out-of-area investigation into the shooting as required by a newly passed state law.
"It's a tragedy beyond description," Soglin told the Journal. "I expect there will be a lot of anger and frustrations."
(Reporting by Curtis Skinner in San Francisco; Editing by Robert Birsel and Pravin Char)


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[Ponce]

Black or white they are both the same, the white are allowing a third country to take over the US and the blacks are allowing the cops to shoot them down and doing nothing about it.......only when you are committed to something about something will something happen because nothing happens till it happens.

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[midnight rambler]

Black or white they are both the same, the white are allowing a third country to take over the US and the blacks are allowing the cops to shoot them down and doing nothing about it.......only when you are committed to something about something will something happen because nothing happens till it happens.

V

Ponce, how do you know for sure this wasn't yet another suicide by cop like that thug kid in Ferguson or more recently like the drug dealer in LA??

Like Spec posted, get into a fight with a cop and expect it to end badly.

[Ponce]

Cops are "supposed" to be trained to handle a given situation and it was only one black and not a gang of them.......there were and are many ways to take care of a subject without the need of killing them.........what's so different between the old days and now days? were there so many blacks being killed in the old days? NO

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[midnight rambler]

Cops are "supposed" to be trained to handle a given situation and it was only one black and not a gang of them.......there were and are many ways to take care of a subject without the need of killing them.........what's so different between the old days and now days? were there so many blacks being killed in the old days? NO

V

How many (blacks) were trying to violently fight cops trying to get their guns 'in the old days'? (rhetorical question, we *know* that certain criminal elements are getting more froggy)

Merely touch a cop's gun these days and expect the worst. Don't engage in criminal activity and avoid the cops completely. Pretty simple actually.

[Spectrism]

We have not seen this darling little "teen" and we did not see what the close-quarters engagement was like. I am at least as anti-cop-brutality as anyone else, but I will not get baited into an anti-cop mob mentality when he was doing his job and encountered a savage that did not belong on the street. He- the cop- may have saved a life or many lives, by taking out an aggressor. That we may never know. What we can know in part is the record of the "teen" and we need to wait for truths to come out.

[Ponce]

Rambler? trying to take the gun "away" from a cop is only the EXCUSE needed to shot them......how many times have I seen this on videos? MANY TIMES....even when the suspect is in handcuff and face down on the ground or in the back of a patrol car........

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[Ponce]

Rambler? trying to take the gun "away" from a cop is only the EXCUSE needed to shot them......how many times have I seen this on videos? MANY TIMES....even when the suspect is in handcuff and face down on the ground or in the back of a patrol car........

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[Spectrism]

Rambler? trying to take the gun "away" from a cop is only the EXCUSE needed to shot them......how many times have I seen this on videos? MANY TIMES....even when the suspect is in handcuff and face down on the ground or in the back of a patrol car........

V

But we can't presume that. You cannot declare a cop guilty because some other cop did something bad at another incident. Here is what I know: there was a disturbance for which the cops were called. One "teen" ran from the scene into a house and the cop followed. Violent encounter occurred.

[Publico]

I'm not going to care until the news media digs up a photo of the perp when he was eleven years old.

[Ponce]

But we can't presume that. You cannot declare a cop guilty because some other cop did something bad at another incident. Here is what I know: there was a disturbance for which the cops were called. One "teen" ran from the scene into a house and the cop followed. Violent encounter occurred.

What do you mean "we can't presume that?"......what you see in blk and white is not presuming but clear evidence of wrong doing....any good cop who cover for a bad come becomes a bad cop...........Police killed more than twice as many people as reported by US government.

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[Spectrism]

What do you mean "we can't presume that?"......what you see in blk and white is not presuming but clear evidence of wrong doing....any good cop who cover for a bad come becomes a bad cop...........Police killed more than twice as many people as reported by US government.

V

So all cops do bad all the time?

Nah.... I can't go that far. I will give EVERYONE the benefit of a factual review without condemning people blindly. You don't really know what happened there and yet you find the cop guilty of murder. That is not how we do things in America. With the rapid influx of illegal immigrants and even legal Puerto Ricans, and with the vapid reflux of lies from the manipulating news media, we have become a nation of cowards and accusers of the innocent.

[Hitch]

Police killed more than twice as many people as reported by US government.

V

Ponce, the police also deal with the worst of the worst. There are predators out there and the police, that's their job, is to deal with them.

One way to look at it, is to put yourself in their shoes. If a man attacks you, and tries to take your gun, what would you do? Unarmed or not, are you going to try to go home to your family at the end of the day?

In a fight, nothing else matters but surviving it.

[7th trump]

Ponce, the police also deal with the worst of the worst. There are predators out there and the police, that's their job, is to deal with them.

One way to look at it, is to put yourself in their shoes. If a man attacks you, and tries to take your gun, what would you do? Unarmed or not, are you going to try to go home to your family at the end of the day?

In a fight, nothing else matters but surviving it.
Damn skippy!

[Ponce]

So all cops do bad all the time?

Nah.... I can't go that far. I will give EVERYONE the benefit of a factual review without condemning people blindly. You don't really know what happened there and yet you find the cop guilty of murder. That is not how we do things in America. With the rapid influx of illegal immigrants and even legal Puerto Ricans, and with the vapid reflux of lies from the manipulating news media, we have become a nation of cowards and accusers of the innocent.

OK Spect and the rest of cops lovers..........how many cops have gone to jail for a wrong killing WITH EVIDENCE.....how many cops have gone to jail for raping a female prisoner?........you are bound to be killed by a cop 50 times more than the chances of being killed by a so called "terrorist". WE "America" are the terrorists, since the declaration of indpendance we have been fighting a overseas war 93% of the time.

We create our own Gods and Saints......we build a statue that "looks" like them......we placed them on a pedestal....... we kneel before them and pray for a favor. If your God is a cop then go and die in peace..... by the way, I suspect that one of you is a friking Zionist.

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[7th trump]

OK Spect and the rest of cops lovers..........how many cops have gone to jail for a wrong killing WITH EVIDENCE.....how many cops have gone to jail for raping a female prisoner?........you are bound to be killed by a cop 50 times more than the chances of being killed by a so called "terrorist". WE "America" are the terrorists, since the declaration of indpendance we have been fighting a overseas war 93% of the time.

We create our own Gods and Saints......we build a statue that "looks" like them......we placed them on a pedestal....... we kneel before them and pray for a favor. If your God is a cop then go and die in peace..... by the way, I suspect that one of you is a friking Zionist.

V

And theres your problem Ponce.......pointing fingers at people and accusing them of being a Zionist.

What the f%^k do zionists have to do with a perp going after a cops gun?
So sick and tired of the brain washing here....its pathetic!

You couldn't identify a zionist if that person sat right next to you Ponce.

[Spectrism]

OK Spect and the rest of cops lovers..........how many cops have gone to jail for a wrong killing WITH EVIDENCE.....how many cops have gone to jail for raping a female prisoner?........you are bound to be killed by a cop 50 times more than the chances of being killed by a so called "terrorist". WE "America" are the terrorists, since the declaration of indpendance we have been fighting a overseas war 93% of the time.

We create our own Gods and Saints......we build a statue that "looks" like them......we placed them on a pedestal....... we kneel before them and pray for a favor. If your God is a cop then go and die in peace..... by the way, I suspect that one of you is a friking Zionist.

V

I don't "love" or hate cops. Each is an individual. Each does his own works. How can you even begin to think it is acceptable to judge all of them as guilty without any evidence of such?

On one forum I am a nazi anti-jew bigot for balanced righteous direction and on another I am a zionist. I guess I am saying the right things.

[Ponce]

Only when there is true justice for everyone will there be justice..........now days being a cop is no more than having a license to kill...........amen

V

[Horn]

The video makes it appear the cop was ransacking his way thru the neighborhood,

"forcing his way into homes"

many of them didn't see Adam 12 on television Ponce,

these guys were watching S.W.A.T. is where they learned their tactics.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWbIxFKtTmE

[Ponce]

Nothing happens till it happens and when it happens to you then ........ what will you do?

V

[midnight rambler]

Hey Ponce, check this out, the Dindu youf plead guilty to armed robbery (home invasion) last year and was on probation for that felony conviction. If arrested he was going to prison which would explain why he'd go for the suicide by cop sweepstakes. Read this rest of the story in the following link, it only gets better...this moron was a real turd.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/armed-robbery/tony-robinson-shooting-890562

The mud shark that spawned him said to the media, "My son has never been a violent person*. And to die in such a violent, violent way, it baffles me.”

*right, he plead guilty to armed robbery recently yet mommy claims "My baby has never been a violent person..." how's that for irony?

[7th trump]

Ponce....read ramblers post (#24) over and over and over until it sinks in.

If it was up to me Ponce...I'd implement the biblical way, and publically, in dealing with these criminals.
It would be immediate death for some and hard labor to pay back 7 fold what they stole....until this criminal behavior stops.

[7th trump]

Hey Ponce, check this out, the Dindu youf plead guild to armed robbery (home invasion) last year and was on probation for that felony conviction. If arrested he was going to prison which would explain why he'd go for the suicide by cop sweepstakes. Read this rest of the story in the following link, it only gets better...this moron was a real turd.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/armed-robbery/tony-robinson-shooting-890562

The mud shark that spawned him said to the media, "My son has never been a violent person*. And to die in such a violent, violent way, it baffles me.”

*right, he plead guilty to armed robbery recently yet mommy claims "My baby has never been a violent person..." how's that for irony?

Live like a criminal....die like a criminal.

[mick silver]

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MADISON, Wis. (AP) — The fatal shooting of an unarmed black 19-year-old by a white police officer, who authorities say fired after he was assaulted, prompted protesters Saturday to take to the college town's streets with chants of "Black Lives Matter." The city's police chief said he understood the anger, assuring demonstrators his department would defend their rights as he implored the community to act with restraint.
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Tony Robinson died Friday night after being shot in his apartment following a confrontation with Officer Matt Kenny, who had forced his way inside after hearing a disturbance while responding to a call, authorities and neighbors said.
Madison Police Chief Mike Koval said Kenny was injured, but didn't provide details. It wasn't clear whether Robinson, who died at a hospital, was alone.
"He was unarmed. That's going to make this all the more complicated for the investigators, for the public to accept," Koval said of Robinson. The department said Kenny would not have been wearing a body camera.
Several dozen protesters who gathered outside the police department Saturday afternoon held signs and chanted "Black Lives Matter" — a slogan adopted by activists and protesters nationwide after recent officer-involved deaths of unarmed blacks — before walking toward the neighborhood where the shooting took place.
The shooting came days after the U.S. Justice Department said it would not issue civil rights charges against Darren Wilson, the white former Ferguson, Missouri, officer who fatally shot 18-year-old Michael Brown, who was black and unarmed, after a struggle in the street last August.
Federal officials did however find patterns of racial profiling, bigotry and profit-driven law enforcement in the St. Louis suburb, which saw spates of sometimes-violent protests in the wake of the shooting and a grand jury's decision not to charge Wilson.
Other high-profile deaths of black suspects at the hands of police officers have prompted nationwide protests, including that of Eric Garner, who died in July after New York City officers put him in a chokehold and a video showed him repeatedly saying, "I can't breathe." A Cleveland police officer in November fatally shot 12-year-old Tamir Rice, who had been pointing a pellet gun at a playground. A Milwaukee police officer who fatally shot Dontre Hamilton last April was found to have acted in self-defense, but was fired for ignoring department policy regarding mental illness.
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(http://news.yahoo.com/photos/police-black-man-19-dies-after-shot-by-officer-photo-1425751165773.html)Madison Police stand outside the scene of a police involved shooting at a home in Madison, Wis., on …

Koval struck a conciliatory tone Saturday while addressing the potential for more protests in Madison, saying he understood the community's distrust after "this tragic death."
"For those who do want to take to the street and protest," Koval said, his department would be there to "defend, facilitate, foster those First Amendment rights of assembly and freedom of speech." The promise echoed as a stark contrast to Ferguson, where an aggressive police response to protesters after Brown's death drew worldwide attention.
Koval also asked protesters to follow what he said was the lead of Robinson's family in asking for "nondestructive" demonstrations.
The chief said he had gone to Robinson's mother's house overnight and spoken with his grandparents and expressed sympathy to his family Saturday, saying, "19 years old is too young."
Family members at community meeting later read a statement prepared by Robinson's mother, Andrea Irwin.
"I can't even compute what has happened," Irwin's statement said. "I haven't even had a chance to see his body."
Koval said Kenny, a more than 12-year veteran of the Madison department, also shot and killed a suspect in 2007, but was cleared of wrongdoing because it was a "suicide by cop-type" situation. In that shooting, Kenny responded to a 911 call of a man with a gun and shot the man twice after police said he pointed the gun at officers. It turned out to be a pellet gun.
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A picture of Kenny on the Madison department's website shows him with a police horse he trains, alongside a short first-person bio in which he says he served nine years in the U.S. Coast Guard before joining the department.
Kenny has been placed on administrative leave pending results of an investigation by the state's Division of Criminal Investigation.
A 2014 Wisconsin law requires police departments to have outside agencies investigate officer-involved deaths after three high-profile incidents within a decade — including one in Madison — didn't result in criminal charges, raising questions from the victims' families about the integrity of investigations.
Madison, about 80 miles west of Milwaukee, is the state capital and home to the University of Wisconsin's flagship campus. About 7 percent of the city's 243,000 residents are black. Neighbors said Robinson's apartment is in a two-story gray house on Williamson Street, known to many as Willy Street.
Chief Koval said police responded to a call about 6:30 p.m. Friday of a person jumping into traffic. A second call to police said the man was "responsible for a battery," Koval said.
Kenny went to an apartment and forced his way inside after hearing a disturbance. Koval said the officer fired after being assaulted by Robinson; Koval said he couldn't say how many shots were fired because it is part of the investigation.
One of Robinson's neighbors, Grant Zimmerman, said Robinson would run between his apartment and his roommate's mother's house across the street "all the time, even in the middle of traffic."
Wisconsin's online courts database shows that Robinson, a 2014 graduate of Sun Prairie High School, pleaded guilty to felony armed robbery in October and was sentenced in December to three years' probation. A police report said he was among four teenagers arrested in a home invasion in which the suspects were seen entering an apartment building with a long gun. They ran with electronics and other property and three of the four were captured. A shotgun and a "facsimile" handgun were recovered, according to the report.
Koval declined to discuss Robinson's background Saturday, saying he thought it was inappropriate.
"I'm not here to do a character workup on someone who lost his life less than 24 hours ago," Koval said.
A neighbor, Doris King, told the Wisconsin State Journal she asked Robinson about his involvement in the robbery because it seemed out of character for him.
"He felt he was under a lot of pressure from the others to do what he did," she told the newspaper. "He told me he would never do anything like that again."
Williamson Street appeared quiet Saturday evening. At least one Madison Police officer stood in front of the building where the shooting took place.
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Associated Press writer Todd Richmond contributed to this report.


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[midnight rambler]

Emphasis on 'unarmed'. lol

Did we mention that this child victim was unarmed??

[mick silver]

was he unarmed when he rob a bank was he unarmed when he rob a store ... at a young age I learned not to fuck with cops

[7th trump]

You don't have to be armed to go for a cops gun and get killed for it.
How stupid are you people?
Armed or not...............wrestle for a cops gun or anyone with a gun and see what happens.

I only wish these spooda's would go for a cops gun more often.

[Cebu_4_2]

When you almost positively know your going to be killed either way... At least he attempted to fight back.

What would you do?

I know the guy is a turd but at the end point, he fought back and the cop was lucky to go home that day.