Is there glass in the Sky? True or False?

[BarnkleBob]

"And God made the expanse and separated the waters that were under the expanse from the waters that were above the expanse." --Genesis 1:7

Is there glass in the sky???

Since researching NASA’s weird and wonderful orbiting machines and their problems with the thermosphere, more evidence came to light to support this theory. Some of the evidence below is weaker than others, but still deserves a mention.

http://www.wildheretic.com/there-is-glass-in-the-sky/

Is there glass in the Sky? True or False?

If true, how then is the premise proved, if then false, how is the premise proved?

[StreetsOfGold]

Revelation 4:6 And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.

[7th trump]

The waters under the expanse are the waters upon the land.
The waters above the expanse is the firmament....which is waters surrounding the planet....it kept the planet, north and south poles tropical and watered the earth with a heavy dew.
There was no day or night as the firmament surrounding the planet glowed 24/7 from the sun.

[Horn]

True,

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7406&stc=1


Libya's Kebira Crater


A huge crater in the Sahara desert, said to be the largest one ever found in the region, and dwarfing Arizona's "Meteor Crater", poses new questions for geologists. Is the crater related to the origins of the mysterious "desert glass" in the region?

Scientists suggest that a meteorite impact millions of years ago is the cause of the giant crater imaged above. Recently discovered in satellite images of the area, the crater lies in Egypt's western desert. It is some 19 miles (31kilometers) wide and is said to be the impact site of a meteoric intruder perhaps three-fourths of a mile (1.2 kilometers) in diameter. The crater itself is more than 25 times the size of Arizona's famous Meteor Crater. But over time, erosion by wind and water largely obscured the ancient scar.One intriguing aspect of the discovery is its close association with a mysterious field of yellow-green glass, broken into large chunks, littering the dunes in the Great Sand Sea of southwestern Egypt.

The first report of the yellow-green “desert glass” came from Patrick Clayton in 1932, following his excursion through the Saad Plateau near the Kebira Crater site. At the time, the origin of the glass was unknown: There was no evidence of geological forces that could have melted the silica sand into glass. With Kebira’s discovery, a hypothetical source for the glass is now available..




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Geologists speculate that the glass originated as ejecta from the Kebira impact. It is thought that the meteor strike imparted so much energy to the surrounding silica sand that it was melted and then explosively hurled outward, solidifying and fracturing into shards, as depicted here (http://www.museumphotography.com/z10b_08_09work.jpg).

Although the glass is most likely a result of Kebira, the method by which it was created is open to question.

1. The glass is too pure – some of the purest natural silica glass ever found. If the glass shards are tektites (melted slag from volcanoes or meteor impacts), they should include the presence of other minerals.

2. The glass does exhibit small internal bubbles that include other elements. One of those elements is iridium, the presence of which indicates an extra-terrestrial origin, according to prevailing theories (see Alvarez, Luis W., et al. "Extraterrestrial Cause for the Cretaceous-Tertiary Extinction: Experimental Results and Theoretical Interpretation." Science 208 (1980) 1095-1108). However, the glass reveals no evidence of other minerals found in the region, such as halite and alumina.

3. Another area where this type of glass may be found is atomic test sites (http://www.n3mra.com/trinitite01.html).

If the explosion of a solid object, like a meteor, did not form the glass, then there remains one other method available—an enormous electrical discharge. The glass shards, then, are the remains of large fulgurites (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.mtholyoke.edu/courses/mdyar/database/fulg/fulg.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.mtholyoke.edu/courses/mdyar/database/index.shtml?group=fulg&h=1740&w=1784&sz=1629&tbnid=sRrt82Zqhja_tM:&tbnh=146&tbnw=150&hl=en&st).

Fulgurites are created when bolts of lightning strike refractory minerals in the earth, instantaneously smelting the minerals into other forms, such as cristobalite. The yellow-green glass does, in fact, contain cristobalite inclusions, along with the iridium and other platinum family elements.

If one grants the power of a lightning bolt large enough to form an impact site some 19 miles in diameter, then additional possibilities must also be considered. Electrical theorists have long claimed that highly energetic electric discharge transmutes elements—a process that is going on all the time on the surface of stars, they contend. The same thing is implied on Jupiter's moon Io, where electric discharge appears to be continuously transmuting oxygen from water ice into sulfur. (The association of energetic lightning strikes with a "sulfurous stench" is much more than an old wives' tale, the electrical theorists say).

Is the Kebira site the scar of a cosmic thunderbolt? If so, new directions of investigation will be essential.


http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/arch06/060424kebira.htm

[Glass]

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?82019-The-Flat-Earth-Conspiracy-Documentary-%28anything-goes%29&highlight=concave


wow this is a rabbit hole I haven't been down before. intriguing arguments and thoughts going on here.

Concave earth theory
http://www.wildheretic.com/concave-earth-theory/

ISS is fake. Footage is simulated in aircraft or in front of green screen with harnesses. Compelling in some areas. The green screen segments do actually look like they are now its been mentioned.

http://www.wildheretic.com/nasas-wei...-machines-pt2/ (http://www.wildheretic.com/nasas-weird-and-wonderful-orbiting-machines-pt2/)

The space walks being done in a pool, which is where they train anyway and the air bubbles escaping and also the scuba diver in the space station hatchway. Clearly visible yet they claimed it was a real EVA.

This video cracks me up. Bogus re-entry vehicles:

post #10 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?82019-The-Flat-Earth-Conspiracy-Documentary-(anything-goes)&p=759534&viewfull=1#post759534)

The video I posted is also worth a look. Clearly shows that the ISS EVA (spacewalk) videos are filmed underwater...... here on earth with scuba divers helping them out of the hatches.

[Horn]

The International Space Station photographed by Brad Hill with a 10" telescope and DMK21AU04 camera

http://darkerview.com/darkview/uploads/Astronomy/Astrophoto/ISSBradHill20100429.jpg

http://spotthestation.nasa.gov/

[BarnkleBob]

@ Glass.... check out this vid., IMO it is full of errors in the attempt to prove their theory, BUT it also presents some very interesting points concerning many mysteries that most of us have never considered.....

https://verumetinventa.wordpress.com/2015/02/28/flat-earth-theory-more-hard-proof-the-earth-is-flat-documentary/

[Glass]

The International Space Station photographed by Brad Hill with a 10" telescope and DMK21AU04 camera

http://darkerview.com/darkview/uploads/Astronomy/Astrophoto/ISSBradHill20100429.jpg

http://spotthestation.nasa.gov/

Is it very very small or far far away?

[Glass]

Scuba Divers in Space
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc88/glassgold/scuba_diver_on_ISS_zpsgydrjzln.jpg
There is also a story of an astronauts helmet filling with 1gallon of water. Back in 2013.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2365712/NASA-spacewalk-aborted-water-leaks-astronauts-helmet.html

http://www.space.com/24835-spacesuit-water-leak-nasa-investigation.html

In the video it also shows a "Chinese" space walk where the astronaut has air bubbles leaking from his tank. I think there is another video segment in there of Nasa astronauts with a lot of bubbles escaping.

[Glass]

Image taken by telescope
http://www.wildheretic.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/observatory-nebula-4.jpg

Another image taken by another telescope
http://www.wildheretic.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/hubble-nedula-3-300x300.jpg

Image taken by a telescope
http://www.wildheretic.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/observatory-galaxy-8-298x300.jpg


Another image taken by another telescope
http://www.wildheretic.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/hubble-galaxy-7-300x234.jpg

One of those telescopes is on Earth. The other one is not on Earth. Can you guess which is which?

[Horn]

Is it very very small or far far away?

Bolth lol, and there's also an event horizon on any "rentry" to our planet.

No there isn't actual Glass in the thermosphere, there's only smoking Space shuttle tiles lit up like a match.

[Glass]

@ Glass.... check out this vid., IMO it is full of errors in the attempt to prove their theory, BUT it also presents some very interesting points concerning many mysteries that most of us have never considered.....

https://verumetinventa.wordpress.com/2015/02/28/flat-earth-theory-more-hard-proof-the-earth-is-flat-documentary/

Very interesting read. Goes to the question of "Can you see the stars when outside the atmosphere?". But the article does raise some serious questions about what NASA are actually doing with their little projects.

Is probable we don't know because we haven't been there yet but still suggests you need the atmosphere to transform the energy into something we can detect with our eyes.

I remember biology class where we were told all about eyes and how the light entered and bounced around before being "absorbed" or detected by those receptors. Except they are not visible light receptors but frequency detectors. Strictly speaking it's probably the same thing BUT the comprehension you get when told it's visible light is totally different than if you were told its actually frequency.

[Glass]

Bolth lol, and there's also an event horizon on any "rentry" to our planet.

No there isn't actual Glass in the thermosphere, there's only smoking Space shuttle tiles lit up like a match.

it can't be both or it would not be visible. It's eaither regular size and very far away or it's very small and not so far away.

I'd like to see an image through a porthole of someone one board. Otherwise nothing conclusive it's actually a manned installation.

[Horn]

You asked if it was very small or very very far away.

Both are relative questions, just like bible thumpers thought glass was in the sky, cause it was delivered by lightning bolts or meteorites.

[Glass]

You asked if it was very small or very very far away.

Both are relative questions, just like bible thumpers thought glass was in the sky, cause it was delivered by lightning bolts or meteorites.

Well there was not 2 questions. Only 1 question, with 2 suggested choices. Are they looking at something far away or very small? If it's far away, it would look small. If it's small, it might not be that far away.

[BarnkleBob]

If the suns temperature is 3.5 mm degrees, why isnt the false vacuum hot rather than cold? Just how is it that sun grazers & comets can skip across the face of the sun w/o burning up or even being pulled into the star by its gravity???

http://www.space.com/17137-how-hot-is-the-sun.html

If there is not a dome covering the earth, glass or some other construct then how is the false vacuum prevented from entering our terrestrial atmosphere? IF there is a dome, could it operate similarly to a magnifying glass heating the surface?

How would an enquirer gather verifyable data to prove or disprove that a dome does or doesnt exist?

[Glass]

The only way I can think of, is to get in a rocket and fly straight up and see if you bump into anything.

BUT those guys (NASA) must have worked something out.

And is it glass or something that looks like glass? getting back to the firmament suggestion.

The other thread you posted was also interesting (interesting for more than one reason) because it explains how the sky is blue.

[Horn]

The universe is electrical in nature, gravity is nothing more than effectual force of electo-magnetism.

No more counter evidence is needed than our ability to easily escape it by jumping. The "vaccum's" force equally effectual as gravity's to enter the terrestrial plane it would need enough to tear any celestial body to pieces. Metreors and comets not wanted are simply rejected.

[BarnkleBob]

The only way I can think of, is to get in a rocket and fly straight up and see if you bump into anything.

BUT those guys (NASA) must have worked something out.

And is it glass or something that looks like glass? getting back to the firmament suggestion.

The other thread you posted was also interesting (interesting for more than one reason) because it explains how the sky is blue.

I just signed up @ Thunderbolts.org.... maybe see what their theory is concerning this topic. I have a contact at NASA, but I doubt the Nassholes will comment....

[Glass]

I just signed up @ Thunderbolts.org.... maybe see what their theory is concerning this topic. I have a contact at NASA, but I doubt the Nassholes will comment....

www.thunderbolts.info

[BrewTech]

Isn't there another forum you can post this stupid, irrelevant (to this board) shit on?

SRSLY.

[Horn]

Good luck, tried to once about a year ago, I think i offered something too controversial on natural mono-poles or something in the description space, I forget. I was either rejected like a comet, or I missed the reply email. lol!

[Glass]

I think electric universe is completely relevant to other material on this site. Or more correctly Fraud of space travel, by nasa and misdirection of human knowledge are relevant in context.

and on this web site we thrash these things out. Sometimes we kill a horse, sometimes it's already dead.

[Horn]

I'd seen old gsus member keehah posting on that Thunderbolts forum, maybe they didn't like the "Horn" moniker

Maybe u need to have something like Flash or Plaz over there?

Ofcourse electric universe is directly related and conductive to Gold and Silver.

[singular_me]

since mainstream sciences is on its death bed, we have entered in the realm where everything is possible and must be given another thought... I dont have the time to search this topic though, as my "scared math" investigation is important at this stage.

[StreetsOfGold]

Psalms 148:4 Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens.

[Glass]

Perhaps the waters spoken of in Genesis 1:6 are these "waters that be above the heavens," presumably located "above" the stars.4 Is there any water near the edge of the universe that would illustrate this possibility?

Actually, yes. Two teams of astronomers have found "the largest and farthest reservoir of water ever detected."5 Light emitted by a very distant and extraordinarily powerful quasar, or supermassive black hole, is altered in a specific way as it passes through the surrounding water vapor, and this enabled astronomers to detect the quasar-associated water.

This water was not found outside the stars, but associated with a quasar, so it is probably not direct evidence of any Psalm 148:4 (http://www.icr.org/bible/Psalm/148/4) "above the heavens" waters. However, it is a billion light-years farther away than the previous distance record for detected water, and less than two billion light-years from the outermost edge. And at 140 trillion times the volume of water on earth, this discovery may portend future water discoveries.

Space.com reported, "Scientists think water vapor was present even in the early universe. So finding this old cloud of the stuff doesn't come as a shock."6 But many creation scientists would not be at all surprised to find water that far out—and even farther—on the basis of a straightforward examination of what the Bible suggests is the structure of the universe.7

In fact, the Pioneer anomaly, an unexplained slowing of the Pioneer 10 and Pioneer 11 spacecraft on their way out of the solar system, is already well-explained by the overwhelming mass of a proposed sphere of water above the heavens.2 More water, perhaps as vapor or ice, may be either directly or indirectly detected in the future, and may be discovered even farther away.



I did not know about this. Anyone hear of this?

Source: Institute for Creation Research
(http://www.icr.org/article/water-near-edge-universe-bolsters-creation/)
Pioneer 10 left the solar system January 23, 2003 and radio communications ceased. The story goes that power to the radio transmitter was lost.

Pioneer 10 was launched on March 3, 1972, by an Atlas-Centaur expendable vehicle from Cape Canaveral (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Canaveral_Air_Force_Station_Space_Launch_Comp lex_36), Florida (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida). Between July 15, 1972, and February 15, 1973, it became the first spacecraft to traverse the asteroid belt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asteroid_belt#Exploration). Photography of Jupiter began November 6, 1973, at a range of 25,000,000 km, and a total of about 500 images were transmitted. The closest approach to the planet was on December 4, 1973, at a range of 132,252 km. During the mission, the on-board instruments were used to study the asteroid belt, the environment around Jupiter, the solar wind (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_wind), cosmic rays (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_ray), and eventually the far reaches of the solar system and heliosphere (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliosphere).[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pioneer_10#cite_note-PionOdys-1) Radio communications (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_communications) were lost with Pioneer 10 on January 23, 2003, because of the loss of electric power for its radio transmitter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_transmitter), with the probe at a distance of 12 billion kilometers (80 AU (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_units)) from Earth.

Wiki Link. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pioneer_10)

Do we have another craft out that far or further that we are still in contact with?

[Glass]

Scientists call it the Helipause, which is the boundary between the Heliosphere and the galaxy. It is an area where everything slows dramatically.

The heliosphere is the region of space (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_space#Interplanetary_space) dominated by the Sun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun). The edge of the heliosphere is a magnetic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_field) bubble-like medium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interplanetary_medium) and is located far beyond the orbit of Pluto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pluto). Plasma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_%28physics%29) "blown" out from the Sun, known as the solar wind (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_wind), creates and maintains this bubble against the outside pressure (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pressure) of the interstellar medium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstellar_medium), the hydrogen and helium gas that permeates Milky Way Galaxy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milky_Way). The solar wind flows outward from the Sun until encountering the termination shock, where motion slows abruptly. The Voyager spacecraft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyager_program) have actively explored the outer reaches of the heliosphere, passing through the shock and entering the heliosheath, a transitional region which is in turn bounded by the outermost edge of the heliosphere, called the heliopause. The overall shape of the heliosphere is controlled by the interstellar medium, through which it is traveling, as well as the Sun, and does not appear to be perfectly spherical.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliosphere#cite_note-nasa.gov-1) The limited data available and unexplored nature[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliosphere#cite_note-2) of these structures has resulted in many theories.

On September 12, 2013, NASA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA) announced that Voyager 1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyager_1) had exited the heliosphere on August 25, 2012, when it measured a sudden increase in plasma density of about forty times.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliosphere#cite_note-atlast-3) Because the heliopause marks one boundary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_System#Boundaries) between the Sun's solar wind and the rest of the galaxy, a spacecraft such as Voyager 1 which has departed the heliosphere can be said to have reached interstellar space (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_space#Interstellar_space).

Wiki Heliosphere (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliosphere)

They also say that the Heliosphere is not uniform in shape, but it extends out past Pluto. So it's pretty big. I'm guessing it's something like a water droplet shape.

[Glass]

So Voyager 1 is supposedly further out than Pioneer 10 BUT it has not crossed the Heliopause yet although Pioneer 10 has already crossed. Not sure about those maths.


Earth's most distant emissary

In 1998, Voyager 1 sped past Pioneer 10's distance to become the farthest machine humans have ever sent from Earth. As of September 2012, the spacecraft is 122 astronomical units (11.3 billion miles or 18.2 billion kilometers) from the sun. It is speeding away at about 11 miles per second (17 kilometers per second), rising above the elliptic plane at an angle of 35 degrees.

NASA's commands take more than 33 hours to get to the spacecraft and back. But the data that is coming back is indicating Voyager is on the verge of a new breakthrough.

The spacecraft is at a spot in the solar system where particles streaming out from the sun begin to slow as interstellar gases push against the particles. Called the heliosheath, it's the last major boundary before interstellar space.

Scientists estimate it will reach that point in 2017. NASA officials say Voyager 1 will have enough power to keep communicating with Earth until 2020, possibly 2025. Destined to wander the Milky Way, in about 40,000 years, Voyager 1 will come within 1.6 light-years of a star in the Camelopardalis constellation, designated AC+79 3888.

So in 2017 this craft will hit the envelope. Will it stop transmitting once it crosses that threshold? It will be interesting to see. Especially if it goes silent like Pioneer 10.
But then


FAST FACTS Location: Voyager 1 is in "Interstellar space" and Voyager 2 is currently in the "Heliosheath" -- the outermost layer of the heliosphere where the solar wind is slowed by the pressure of interstellar gas.



link (http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/where/index.html)

It says Voyager 1 made it through already.
http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/images/missionImage_top.jpg

[Dogman]

Scientists call it the Helipause, which is the boundary between the Heliosphere and the galaxy. It is an area where everything slows dramatically.


Wiki Heliosphere (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliosphere)

They also say that the Heliosphere is not uniform in shape, but it extends out past Pluto. So it's pretty big. I'm guessing it's something like a water droplet shape.


I think more round than tear drop, because the sun exerts light and pressure in all directions from its surface and the solar wind also blows away from the sun the same. But due to the rotation of the sun and the plane of that rotation more mass is thrown out along the plane of rotation which also all the planets are on the elliptic plane of the sun, or most of them.

So I suspect the Heliosphere is more like a flatted ball or an 0 in shape but sideways, not round.

[Horn]

So I suspect the Heliosphere is more like a flatted ball or an 0 in shape but sideways, not round.

In theory that's pretty descriptive for something that's theoretical to begin with. lol

[BarnkleBob]

Earth is being protected by a 'Star Trek-style invisible shield': Scientists probe mysterious barrier blocking 'killer electrons'

These 'killer electrons' whip around the planet at near-light speed

If they hit Earth, they could knock out power grids and change its climate

Shield was found 7,200 miles (11,600 km) above Earth in Van Allen belts

Scientists are baffled as to how the shield formed, and how it works

'It's almost like these electrons are running into a glass wall,' said Professor Daniel Baker from the University of Colorado Boulder

Snip:

ut while scientists know this mysterious shield exists, they are baffled as to how it formed and how exactly it works.

'Somewhat like the shields created by force fields on Star Trek that were used to repel alien weapons, we are seeing an invisible shield blocking these electrons,' said Professor Daniel Baker from the University of Colorado Boulder.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...electrons.html

[BarnkleBob]

Maybe the word "glass" is the wrong word to use? No disrespect Glass! lol.... The article below hypothesizes that the collisions between the photons & electrons, etc. create "real density," hence "matter."

"This rising field of real photons has a real density, and that density is capable of turning these electrons at lower altitudes. Obviously, given a real field of real particles and a real density, there will be some altitude at which the density dissipates enough to no longer exclude the electrons. At that altitude, you will find the electrons, but not below it. In other words, we would expect a sharp boundary."

"Another thing that magnifies this boundary is that it is set not by one field, but by two. As I have shown in previous papers, the photon charge field rising must meet the photon field coming down. In other words, some photons come down directly from the Sun, as we know. We call this sunlight, although it is full-spectrum (not just visible). Of course it is composed of photons. Then we have the charge field rising, as I have shown. This is also composed of photons. Although photon fields are mainly interpenetrable, they are not completely interpenetrable, especially as a matter of spin. So we have two photon fields meeting head to head. This not only causes spin-ups, it also causes a boundary. If you think about it, there must be some altitude at which the local energy (density) of one field equals that of the other. We would expect to see special effects at this boundary."


"the electrons we find at the boundary are not (mainly) electrons coming in from the Solar Wind. No, they are electrons created on the spot by photons being spun-up in these real collisions. A spun-up photon is an electron."




http://milesmathis.com/startrek.pdf

[Glass]

thats what I'm trying to show. Something that was a barrier. In the old times it was considered to be made of water. It would not have been considered glass because there was none, other than what they found laying around. But glass and water can give similar appearances.

do we have an explanation of the firmament coming from science with this heliospehere boundary, the helio pause as they call it?

[Horn]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...electrons.html

If i remember correctly there was a thread on that not too long ago here, some sort of true anti-gravity or extent gravity layer?

[ximmy]

Glass [ice sky] over Jupiters moon. Underneath is a salt sea with more water than that of the earth.

Ganymede is the only moon in the solar system that has a magnetic field of its own.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl4KIDPAFas

This animation, based on images taken by NASA's Galileo orbiter, shows what Jupiter's moon, Ganymede, looks like, with each color indicating a different type of terrain. "Brown regions are those that are heavily cratered and much older than the light shaded regions that are smoother with few craters. These lighter shaded regions are believed to be formed by flooding of the surface with water coming from faults or even cryo-volcanos that have taken place over billions of years. Perhaps even tectonic processes are at work with some crustal ice sheets being forced downward by the emergence of newer icy material."

NASA discovers an underground ocean on Jupiter’s largest moon
NASA announced evidence on Thursday (http://www.nasa.gov/news/media/newsaudio/index.html#.VQGqo_nF-So) that Jupiter's largest moon, Ganymede, has a saltwater ocean under its icy surface. The ocean seems to have more water than all the water on Earth's surface, according to new Hubble observations (http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases/2015/09/full/).
Scientists estimate that the ocean is 60 miles thick, which is about 10 times deeper than Earth's oceans. But unlike our salty waters, Ganymede's ocean is buried under 95 miles of ice.
While scientists have speculated since the 1970s about the presence of an ocean on Ganymede -- the largest moon in our solar system -- until now the only observational evidence came from a brief flyby by the Galileo spacecraft, which didn't observe the moon long enough to confirm a liquid ocean.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLLbaoYJDuo

[BarnkleBob]

thats what I'm trying to show. Something that was a barrier. In the old times it was considered to be made of water. It would not have been considered glass because there was none, other than what they found laying around. But glass and water can give similar appearances.

do we have an explanation of the firmament coming from science with this heliospehere boundary, the helio pause as they call it?


Have you ever considered the min-ute differences between the molecular composition of the planets atmosphere compared to water? Also consider that there are varying layers of moisture density distributed throughout the atmosphere... lower density of moisture in the upper atmosphere and much higher gathered densities on the surface.... i.e. oceans, lakes, & ponds!

Since science has discovered that a "ceiling" a.k.a. a "shield" of some kind does in fact exist that does encompass the surface area, we could hypothesize that we dwell in a fish bowel or scientifically stated, a petrie dish!

[mick silver]

the earth is a space ship it was places here to control the crazy fucks from our home base every few thousand years the wise one come back and kill the earth off then place some seeds to start all over

[Glass]

Have you ever considered the min-ute differences between the molecular composition of the planets atmosphere compared to water? Also consider that there are varying layers of moisture density distributed throughout the atmosphere... lower density of moisture in the upper atmosphere and much higher gathered densities on the surface.... i.e. oceans, lakes, & ponds!

Since science has discovered that a "ceiling" a.k.a. a "shield" of some kind does in fact exist that does encompass the surface area, we could hypothesize that we dwell in a fish bowel or scientifically stated, a petrie dish!

Certainly have. The people making these hypothosis also mention the biblical stance that the firmament was what rained down during Noahs time. A suspended mist. I've spoken to this myself. I think it's highly probable the world was shrouded in mist. I can't see how a dinosaur could survive without such an environment and also some of those giant trees fossilized and others still living in pockets in south america and possibly even north america.

[Cebu_4_2]

Certainly have. The people making these hypothosis also mention the biblical stance that the firmament was what rained down during Noahs time. A suspended mist. I've spoken to this myself. I think it's highly probable the world was shrouded in mist. I can't see how a dinosaur could survive without such an environment and also some of those giant trees fossilized and others still living in pockets in south america and possibly even north america.

The Earth was much smaller then which played a big part of water and gravity.

[Glass]

The Earth was much smaller then which played a big part of water and gravity.

how big was it? did it fit the math?

[Horn]

how big was it? did it fit the math?

Dinosaur bio-metrics have a hard time figuring into any current Earth gravity.

[BarnkleBob]

Dinosaur bio-metrics have a hard time figuring into any current Earth gravity.

Yes, yes... the current "liquid iron model" of the planets core is most probably error, indeed the planet was required to be much smaller in diameter to support the Jurassic creatures due to gravity.... A "plasma core" however would explain the earths diameter growth... NASA revealed that there is an ongoing interaction of particles being passed between the sun and planet about every 8 mins.... the Nassholes are silent on informing us of the consequences of these interactions....

The plasma theory hypothesizes that mass is being produced at the core, and when this mass works its way to the surface, the surface reacts like a baby bird exiting a shell, the surface cracks producing eq's.... Volcanos act as relief valves spewing out the newly created mass.... if the relief valve becomes clogged with debris, a major explosion occurs from pent up pressure called an eruption... the Hawaian Island & various locations especially around the Pacific "ring of fire" are constantly emitting & transforming the surface with new low pressure mass that is oozing onto the surface...

Indeed, the surface must have been much smaller to support Dinosaurs, as the current "gravity" (whatever gravity really is) would not have allowed the blood & more importantly the blood pressure in these giant creatures to circulate to the required elevated extremities, namely to the head which contains the brain....

Just as good a theory/hypothesesis as any I suppose!

[Horn]

I just had a healthy dose of Volcanic ash get blown my way last week, It resembles a fine silica glass bead.

Hmm plasma core? as above so below...

[Horn]

The thermos sphere has always been an area (like Sol's corona) I've always found interesting to the limits.

Look at the difference in K between solar min and max. and tell me is shouldn't effect Earth's climate....

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7424&stc=1

[Dogman]

I just had a healthy dose of Volcanic ash get blown my way last week, It resembles a fine silica glass bead.

Hmm plasma core? as above so below...

How far are you from Turrialba ?

Do not inhale deeply!

Near erupting volcano's, yes there is glass in the sky !

;)

[Horn]

Do not inhale deeply!

I'm a firm believer in being transparency.

40 km was a slight dusting, I hardly noticed it until someone called me on the phone and told me.

Though my teeth were chalky in the following day or so, the breeze is rather stiff here for this 1/2 a year.

[Dogman]

I'm a firm believer in being transparency.

40 km was a slight dusting, I hardly noticed it until someone called me on the phone and told me.

Though my teeth were chalky in the following day or so, the breeze is rather stiff here for this 1/2 a year.

Understand that pumice can be a great teeth cleaner !

;)

[Horn]

If after many years of volcanism there might be a polished glass cap out there, it was then shattered in Noah's flood.

[BarnkleBob]

"As Above, So Below".....

Is this the hypothesized plasma energy engine that creates new mass @ the earths core? A process that occurs about every 8 minutes, trading & transferring high energy particles between the earth & the sun???

MAGNETIC PORTALS CONNECT EARTH TO THE SUN (about every 8 minutes)

Oct. 30, 2008: During the time it takes you to read this article, something will happen high overhead that until recently many scientists didn't believe in. A magnetic portal will open, linking Earth to the sun 93 million miles away. Tons of high-energy particles may flow through the opening before it closes again, around the time you reach the end of the page.

"It's called a flux transfer event or 'FTE,'" says space physicist David Sibeck of the Goddard Space Flight Center. "Ten years ago I was pretty sure they didn't exist, but now the evidence is incontrovertible."

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2008/30oct_ftes/

Flux transfer event

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flux_transfer_event

Strange Magnetic Portal Connects Earth with the Sun

Several speakers at the workshop outlined the formation of a flux transfer event. One idea is that on the side of Earth facing the sun, our magnetic field presses against the sun's magnetic field. And about every eight minutes, the two fields briefly reconnect, forming a portal through which particles can flow. The portal takes the form of a magnetic cylinder about as wide as Earth.

http://m.space.com/6051-strange-portal-connects-earth-sun.html