Thoughts, please!

[BrewTech]

I have mine...

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c88_1425968628

[midnight rambler]

Wherever the head goes the body follows.

[mick silver]

I wonder how he would feel if someone put his ass in a choke hold till he passes out . he live by no law

[7th trump]

Just gotta love some of the comments here.

I think most of you just dont like authority....period....basically you're the lawless ones.
You bitch when the cops use deadly force and bitch when they dont.

Which is it guys?

A retard who obviously couldnt control himslef in front scantly clad females was causing trouble and someone called the authorities to take care of it. And when the second retard confronted the cop he too also found out what being an drunken asshole gets you.
What ever happened to the good old days where we our selves just took care of the assholes with an ass kicking worse than the little sleep time they got?

Could have been worse....the first dipshit could have been knocked out with brute force trauma rather than a pussy choke hold.
(Hahahaha....go ahead cop...put your hands around my neck while I attempt to scare you with my bloated chest of air!!)
Just a bunch of show offs trying to impress the ladies...I think I could find a better way of impressing the ladies than being an asshole and getting some nap time in front of the ladies.

[iOWNme]

All i see are slaves cheering on the pain of a fellow slave which is administered by just another slave.

GACK.

[7th trump]

All i see are slaves cheering on the pain of a fellow slave which is administered by just another slave.

GACK.

Tell me IownME.....are you a US citizen?

[osoab]

I see a bunch of sadists and statists. There was also one douchebag that had a bit of sense of right and wrong.

[Cebu_4_2]

Fucking PIGS above anything with Sheeple cheering death on... 1 Pig, hundreds of sheep loving death of fellow sheeple. I wouldn't want it any other way. If I was there I would carry and end the anarchy in one shot. Fuck these PIGS.

[Cebu_4_2]

Nut punch with a bullet, straight from the balls towards the head... Where ever it lands is fine as long as in this Mossad USi piece of shit... I can't go any farther. Need a mask from the spot you came from and everywhere you go but this POS PIG has to go.

Comments Pete?

[7th trump]

Fucking PIGS above anything with Sheeple cheering death on... 1 Pig, hundreds of sheep loving death of fellow sheeple. I wouldn't want it any other way. If I was there I would carry and end the anarchy in one shot. Fuck these PIGS.

What?............it never accrued to you that what you're are seeing is no different than a black chimp out?
You racist bastard you!!

Ending the anarchy huh?
You'd commit murder over a worthless punk ass bitch fool who doesn't want to man up for his clearly asshole actions?
Do you think the cop would have to be there in the first place if it wasn't for the stupid white trash?

Stupid isn't racist now is it?
You've never been to a bar full of smart ass drunken kids who size you up because you're older?

[Ares]

I have mine...

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c88_1425968628

Without knowing what the circumstances are of how the police got involved I really can't say. If he was being rowdy and violating the rights of others (we don't know why the police were called, he could of been threatening someone else, damaged property etc.)

The other guy was being a dick and not leaving the cop alone while he was arresting the guy in red shorts.

I am far from being a cop supporter but in this instance I am at least thankful he didn't pull out his gun and start shooting people only get a 2 week paid administrative leave with no mark on his record.

[Neuro]

Without knowing what the circumstances are of how the police got involved I really can't say. If he was being rowdy and violating the rights of others (we don't know why the police were called, he could of been threatening someone else, damaged property etc.)

The other guy was being a dick and not leaving the cop alone while he was arresting the guy in red shorts.

I am far from being a cop supporter but in this instance I am at least thankful he didn't pull out his gun and start shooting people only get a 2 week paid administrative leave with no mark on his record.
I totally agree!

[Horn]

LEO always drives a wedge between forum members, is there any possibility of them being replaced by forum members?

[Dogman]

For some reason I have a almost irresistible urge to say a saying from the distant past for me!

"Eat shit and die, mf'r"

Whoo that feels better !

;)

[Cebu_4_2]

You FUCKS BLIND? This pig put them to death with a hold incapacitating them then arresting... were fucked as long as your the norm here. FUCK YOU ALL!

Ban me please!

I have no need to be here.

[Cebu_4_2]

Please ban me I have shit to do.

[7th trump]

You FUCKS BLIND? This pig put them to death with a hold incapacitating them then arresting... were fucked as long as your the norm here. FUCK YOU ALL!

Ban me please!

I have no need to be here.

So resisting arrest is noble along with not being responsible for your actions?

Like I said....at least he didn't pull out his gun and fire at the asshole.....these two fools didn't sport a weapon where the cop would have to pull the trigger.

And if the kid was innocent why then did he challenge the cop?

The brute bully cop thing I can over look, it doesn't matter and is just emotional bullshit ....the point is the kid resisted arrest and challenged authority.
Basically he's telling the cop his wrong doings trump everyone elses righteousness and/or right not to be violated.
What makes the drunken toad believe he's above the law?

I guess the moral of the story is if you cant learn how to play nicely............stay home.
This kid will remember this the rest of his life...and maybe....just maybe with the wisdom of experience..........learn from his mistakes.


Whats funny is the first guy is getting sand kicked from him from other kids after waking up from his stupor....obviously they knew this toad was just trouble...and then towards the end one guy is flipping the first dumb ass off.
Just pay attention to everyone elses reactions towards the two dicks.......says volumes about them.

[Neuro]

You FUCKS BLIND? This pig put them to death with a hold incapacitating them then arresting... were fucked as long as your the norm here. FUCK YOU ALL!

Ban me please!

I have no need to be here.
They died?

[7th trump]

They died?

I think hes referring to death as being choked out.....sleepy time!

[Horn]

I had no idea anyone died, the brewtech wedge video must've died before i got to the end.

[BrewTech]

I had no idea anyone died, the brewtech wedge video must've died before i got to the end.

I don't think anyone died, but I did see a sadistic armed fuck choking out a couple of drunk kids in board shorts on the beach. Pretty butch, to be sure.

[Hitch]

Comments Pete?

My comment is that folks are over reacting to this. Nobody was hurt, it was just a cluster situation with a bunch of drunk kids.

The cop was using diversion strikes. Hits that are not meant to hurt anyone, but to get their attention and get them in cuffs. The choking thing I think was just for intimidation. He was just trying to control an out of control drunk kid, plus make it look intimidating to anyone else who might want to confront the cop in a violent way.

The cop was basically trying to control the situation, by himself. Nobody got hurt, nobody got shot, sure it looked ugly, but score 1 for the cop.

If the cop would have stood and watched the kids fight, you folks would call him a pussy for not doing anything. It's a lose-lose situation, I think.

[EE_]

My comment is that folks are over reacting to this. Nobody was hurt, it was just a cluster situation with a bunch of drunk kids.

The cop was using diversion strikes. Hits that are not meant to hurt anyone, but to get their attention and get them in cuffs. The choking thing I think was just for intimidation. He was just trying to control an out of control drunk kid, plus make it look intimidating to anyone else who might want to confront the cop in a violent way.

The cop was basically trying to control the situation, by himself. Nobody got hurt, nobody got shot, sure it looked ugly, but score 1 for the cop.

If the cop would have stood and watched the kids fight, you folks would call him a pussy for not doing anything. It's a lose-lose situation, I think.

I wouldn't have called the cop a pussy for not doing anything. Where I came from, a fight between to young drunk guys would have been allowed to take it's cource. There were no knives or guns involved, so no intent to commit murder.

Which would you prefer to see happen, if it was your fight, or just a bystander.

Scenario #1
Two drunk kids on spring break get in a fight, one gets his ass handed to him and gets pounded out. The crowd pulls him off the beaten loser. Both go home to nurse their wounds/bruises. End of situation.
(small chance one would have died)

Scenario #2
Overzealous Cop on steroids enters the equation. Fight ends between to college students and becomes a fight with a 240lb. steroid juiced overzealous cop. Both studens get choked by muscled cop, beaten, arrested, have to appear in court, fined. Cop is above the law and can't be held to account. The state, the police, the court system, all get paid.
(high chance one could have died due to broken neck, shot to death, or died from loss of consciousness and breathing issues)

[Glass]

I thought the cop handles it well. He clearly had a good grasp of the situation around him. He did not panic but kept alert to the people around him. He seemed to apply his holds deliberately and in a measured way. It wasn't like he was pounding on anyone? I did a bit of FF on the vid. Most of the crowd were in good spirits party mode. No one was really going off at him. There appeared to be a couple of hot heads who just needed some time in the cooler. It's possible that those two (?) had been a general annoyance and the crowd might have been pleased to see the back of them. We don't know the lead up. Based on what I saw I don't see a problem. In times past, masses of people wouldn't have been doing that. Police would not have needed such a hands on approach as often as they do these days.

People can die from a single punch. We seem to get it a lot here. Falling to pavement not sand. Crack. Gone.

[EE_]

I thought the cop handles it well. He clearly had a good grasp of the situation around him. He did not panic but kept alert to the people around him. He seemed to apply his holds deliberately and in a measured way. It wasn't like he was pounding on anyone? I did a bit of FF on the vid. Most of the crowd were in good spirits party mode. No one was really going off at him. There appeared to be a couple of hot heads who just needed some time in the cooler. It's possible that those two (?) had been a general annoyance and the crowd might have been pleased to see the back of them. We don't know the lead up. Based on what I saw I don't see a problem. In times past, masses of people wouldn't have been doing that. Police would not have needed such a hands on approach as often as they do these days.

People can die from a single punch. We seem to get it a lot here. Falling to pavement not sand. Crack. Gone.

They were lucky they didn't encounter a killer cop, this time. Glad the cop made them safe...everyone wants to be safe, don't they?

[BrewTech]

I thought the cop handles it well. He clearly had a good grasp of the situation around him. He did not panic but kept alert to the people around him. He seemed to apply his holds deliberately and in a measured way. It wasn't like he was pounding on anyone? I did a bit of FF on the vid. Most of the crowd were in good spirits party mode. No one was really going off at him. There appeared to be a couple of hot heads who just needed some time in the cooler. It's possible that those two (?) had been a general annoyance and the crowd might have been pleased to see the back of them. We don't know the lead up. Based on what I saw I don't see a problem. In times past, masses of people wouldn't have been doing that. Police would not have needed such a hands on approach as often as they do these days.

People can die from a single punch. We seem to get it a lot here. Falling to pavement not sand. Crack. Gone.

Apparently, they did. This was a bunch of kids partying on the beach, not a 1950's gang rumble.

http://newyorkcitygangs.com/?page_id=164


The gangs from that time period were different from the gangs we see today in some unique ways. For instance, in the 1950’s gangs didn’t fight over drugs. Drive by shootings were rare, and the gangs were mostly comprised of teenagers aged 12-19.

Although drugs were prevalent in New York City, particularly with the rise of heroin in the late 50’s and into the 60’s, the gang wars were mostly fought over “turf” and girls.
In the end, drugs helped contribute towards the demise of the fighting gang. Gang members would get hooked on heroin which would change their emphasis and world from the gang to their next fix. Junkies were notoriously unreliable in rumbles and would often be teased mercilessly or ostracized by the gang in the hope they would kick their habit and be a “productive” member of the gang.
Gangs were more or less divided into ethnic groups, although many had a mixture of ethnic backgrounds. Blacks, Italians, Irish and Puerto Ricans all contributed to the estimated 6,000 gang members and hundreds of gangs throughout the city.
The Rumble
As a rule, a typical gang would only stay on their turf unless they were out fighting their rivals in their turfs. Turfs were very clearly dilineated and often there would be a “no-man’s land” between the two turfs. The “rumble” became synonymous with these gangs. A rumble was a huge fight where 20-50 gang members on each side would meet at a prescribed location, often brokered by the “warlords,” or “war counsellors” of the clubs. Often this would be a park or schoolground. The fight wouldn’t last for very long, a few minutes at the most, and the result would be broken bones, unconscious victims and even death.

Sometimes a rumble would be a spur of the moment thing, and other times a rumble would be planned weeks in advance by the two war counsellors and Presidents of each gang.

Better call the SWAT Team!
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http://postmediawindsorstar.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/1-annette-main.jpg

[Horn]

I don't think anyone died, but I did see a sadistic armed fuck choking out a couple of drunk kids in board shorts on the beach. Pretty butch, to be sure.

What other method would you suggest for arresting an unruly beach mongrels by yourself?

We have no idea what occurred before the video started,

and for the second drunken beach mongrel to pick fights with bystanders in the midst of his friends arrest just shows he most likely deserved a face planting arrest aswell.

[mick silver]

choke hold , break a neck for what playing around drunk in the sun... the kids could of been brain dead from lack of air .

[7th trump]

Immaturity, ego's and alcohol doesnt mix well for this new generation of knowitalls.
Maybe they should raise the drinking age to 24?

[Hitch]

Which would you prefer to see happen, if it was your fight, or just a bystander.

Scenario #1
Two drunk kids on spring break get in a fight, one gets his ass handed to him and gets pounded out. The crowd pulls him off the beaten loser. Both go home to nurse their wounds/bruises. End of situation.
(small chance one would have died)

Honestly, I would rather see scenario #1. But I'm not a cop, nobody can blame me for not doing my duty.

How about scenario #3:

Two kids get into a fight, cop shows up and does nothing. One of the kids gets hurt. All the bystanders point at the cop and blame him for not doing his duty. Parents of the kid sue the police dept, the city. Kid gets new porche, parents get new house. Cop shamed at work ends up losing his job.

EE, you are missing the big issue. Cops have to take action. They don't have a choice. You, me, we could just be bystanders and noboby would blame us. If I was that cop though, I get involved as well, no way I'm losing my job over a couple of stupid drunk kids.

[iOWNme]

Tell me IownME.....are you a US citizen?

Can your postion be valid if it is based on contradictions?

[Shami-Amourae]

Imagine a female cop doing all of that.
http://youqueen.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Female-Cop.jpg
:rolleyes:

The cop in the video basically controlled a large rowdy crowd single-handedly without having to resort to lethal force. That's very brave and badass.

[midnight rambler]

Imagine a female cop doing all of that.

The cop in the video basically controlled a large rowdy crowd single-handedly. That's very brave and badass.

Now imagine the same scene with mostly street apes and a single cop.

[Shami-Amourae]

All i see are slaves cheering on the pain of a fellow slave which is administered by just another slave.

GACK.

If that was a corporate/private security "police" would you find it acceptable then? Even if the government was done away with you'd still have the same thing but just privately owned.

Actually the police have more oversight since they answer to the public.

[7th trump]

Can your postion be valid if it is based on contradictions?

What........refusing to answer the question?

Its a simple question asking a simple....yes or no answer?
What contradiction is posed by this question?....its a "yes or no".

[7th trump]

Now imagine the same scene with mostly street apes and a single cop.

Black or white cop?

[ximmy]

Tell me IownME.....are you a US citizen?

Tell me 7th trump, Why did you cross the road?


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[7th trump]

Tell me 7th trump, Why did you cross the road?


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What was that Ximmy...I didnt hear you.
Did you say something?
If you did then just say it.

[SWRichmond]

I think most of you just dont like authority....period....

I will speak for myself.

I don't need anyone to have "authority" over me. I pride myself on self control and respecting myself and the rights of others. If the "authorities" would limit themselves to just actually keeping the peace (and right now we don't know who or what started this), then I would have much less problem with them. But when the "public" "authority" uses its "authority" over me to make me pay them money for stupid regulatory bullshit, they are not keeping the peace, they are using their "authority" to rob me, plain and simple. if the "police" want some consideration, they had better start giving me some fucking consideration. Otherwise, I will remain increasingly willing to endorse their not being around at all, because they IMO are now more of a threat to my well being than their absence would be.

If you get off on "authority", then you have a personal psychological problem, probably stemming from experiencing or receiving abuse as a child.

[7th trump]

I will speak for myself.

I don't need anyone to have "authority" over me. I pride myself on self control and respecting myself and the rights of others. If the "authorities" would limit themselves to just actually keeping the peace (and right now we don't know who or what started this), then I would have much less problem with them. But when the "public" "authority" uses its "authority" over me to make me pay them money for stupid regulatory bullshit, they are not keeping the peace, they are using their "authority" to rob me, plain and simple. if the "police" want some consideration, they had better start giving me some fucking consideration. Otherwise, I will remain increasingly willing to endorse their not being around at all, because they IMO are now more of a threat to my well being than their absence would be.

If you get off on "authority", then you have a personal psychological problem, probably stemming from experiencing or receiving abuse as a child.

You're infected as to why there is police in the first place.

Tell me........what do you think the reason is to have the police?
You must be guilty of something....no?
Why do you feel the police will harm you?
You can clearly see in the video the cop just didnt randomly pick someone minding his own business.....the drunk was doing something wrong and was caught.
Did you see how others treated the first guy after waking up from his sleepy time...they kicked sand on him.Do you think thats normal?
If so then why arent you all up in arms about the bystanders kicking sand on the guy just the same as your lashing out at the police officer?
I mean really....by your standards you are being a hippacrit by selecting just the cop.

Is that what you think is going on all around the US....cops just randomly beating up the innocent for no apparent reason other than picking them out of a crowd?

I'd side with most here on cops being out of line if....and only if they randomly selected the innocent....but thats not whats been shown on any of these video's posted on the forum.

[ximmy]

What was that Ximmy...I didnt hear you.
Did you say something?
If you did then just say it.

That is to be expected of a headless chicken...

[7th trump]

That is to be expected of a headless chicken...


I really dont care to engage your meaningless childish games Ximmy.
Grow up!

[SWRichmond]

You're infected as to why there is police in the first place.

Tell me........what do you think the reason is to have the police?
You must be guilty of something....no?
Why do you feel the police will harm you?


They will harm me if I resist their robbing me. Can you not read?



You can clearly see in the video the cop just didnt randomly pick someone minding his own business.....the drunk was doing something wrong and was caught.


I can't see any such thing. We cannot see who the incident started. I noted this in my reply. Again, can you not read?



Did you see how others treated the first guy after waking up from his sleepy time...they kicked sand on him.Do you think thats normal?
If so then why arent you all up in arms about the bystanders kicking sand on the guy just the same as your lashing out at the police officer?
I mean really....by your standards you are being a hippacrit by selecting just the cop.


Not so. Once again, if you will actually read and comprehend my comment, you will notice that it only marginally addresses the original incident but is a general comment about the "police".



Is that what you think is going on all around the US....cops just randomly beating up the innocent for no apparent reason other than picking them out of a crowd?


Not necessarily randomly. Perhaps we should begin a dialogue about SWAT team use?



I'd side with most here on cops being out of line if....and only if they randomly selected the innocent....but thats not whats been shown on any of these video's posted on the forum.

So if an "innocent" was targeted specifically (and not randomly), that would be OK with you? That's what you just stated.

[ximmy]

I really dont care to engage your meaningless childish games Ximmy.
Grow up!

http://img0.joyreactor.com/pics/post/comics-growing-up-616154.jpeg

[7th trump]

Cops rob you?
Is that what you are saying?

Sure...but the cop repeatedly called out the guy many times before grabbing his throat. And by the actions of the bystanders kicking sand on him...he was up to something no good.

Swat teams breaking down doors of the wrong address (if this is what you are referring to) is a human error...it happens unfortunately...get over it.

No you cannot comprehend. I state the cops arent randomly targeting the innocent in general...they target the criminal or persons of inappropriate behavior...just like the two idiots in the video.

[ximmy]

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7412&d=1426191546

[7th trump]

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7412&d=1426191546

Ohhh...I get it Ximmy.
If it means that much to you...you can have the last say.
I don't really care.

[Cebu_4_2]

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7412&d=1426191546

Hahahaha, that's funny!

[Horn]

What a strangely wonderful ending to this thread.

Please everyone gather around, so I can give you a bear hug.

No tazers allowed on the beach friends.

[7th trump]

What a strangely wonderful ending to this thread.

Please everyone gather around, so I can give you a bear hug.

No tazers allowed on the beach friends.

I don't see any difference...do you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru9LHTwxVwA

[iOWNme]

If that was a corporate/private security "police" would you find it acceptable then? Even if the government was done away with you'd still have the same thing but just privately owned.

NO. Morality is not altered by a costume, title or position. Morality is not altered by 'legislation' or 'law'. No documented 'procedure' or 'ritual' can alter morality. You STILL dont even comprehend the concept of what Anarchism is, yet you cant stop bashing it. Its makes it literally impossible to have a discussion when one of us doesnt even grasp the others position.


Actually the police have more oversight since they answer to the public.

Im speechless. You literally know that is not true, yet you attempt to use it to strengthen your position. SHEESH.

[iOWNme]

What........refusing to answer the question?

Its a simple question asking a simple....yes or no answer?
What contradiction is posed by this question?....its a "yes or no".

Ive been through this with you 100 times. You dont grasp or comprehend my position, so any attempt from you to discredit it, results in you contradicting yourself and disagreeing with yourself in principle.

How about you just stop trolling me, until you actually grasp my position?

Or you could just debate me live on skype, as ive offered 100 times. Because when talking live, you cant hide behind time and a keyboard. Your contradictions can be immediately pointed out and made to be clarified, to the point you will have to disagree with yourself to try and make yourself right.

Your position can never be valid if it is based on contradictions. I dont need to have all of the answers to know that your wrong if you contradict yourself. And the ENTIRE belief in ANY form of 'Government' rests on a gigantic contradiction soup of dry water and square chicken eggs.

[Hitch]

Or you could just debate me live on skype, as ive offered 100 times.

Don't do that, 7th. It won't be a debate. A debate is an honest interaction and discussion, what sui is offering is not honest.

[iOWNme]

Don't do that, 7th. It won't be a debate. A debate is an honest interaction and discussion, what sui is offering is not honest.

You IMAGINE im dishonest, because you dont even comprehend my position. I can understand why you IMAGINE me to be dishonest.

LOL.

The whole point of debating live is so if i am dishonest, i can be called out on it, live, and then re-posted for the world to hear.

I have no fears whatsoever of debating live. What does that tell you?

[Hitch]

I have no fears whatsover of debating live. What does that tell you?

It tells me you have an agenda. An agenda you want to prove.

You pulled this same shit with me regarding cops. I didn't bite. So I just thought I'd recommend 7th not to bite at your offer.

Your idea of "debating live" is not honest, at all. You'll storm out of the gate...manipulating things, to where it's not honest at all. It is obvious.

[Dogman]

A chat channel would be perfect!

Audio and or video chat could be fun for they equipped!

Or keyboard to keyboard but not as revealing!

Thought not!

[osoab]

It tells me you have an agenda. An agenda you want to prove.

You pulled this same shit with me regarding cops. I didn't bite. So I just thought I'd recommend 7th not to bite at your offer.

Your idea of "debating live" is not honest, at all. You'll storm out of the gate...manipulating things, to where it's not honest at all. It is obvious.

It would be a one sided debate solid. Sui, would eat "headless chicken's" lunch.

7th is truly delusional. He would rather kill anyone that doesn't agree with him. He is truly a blind radical.

[Hitch]

It would be a one sided debate solid. Sui, would eat "headless chicken's" lunch.

7th is truly delusional. He would rather kill anyone that doesn't agree with him. He is truly a blind radical.

No argument here. My point was an "honest" debate. What does that mean to sui?

My take, say I debated Sui live on police/law/constitution, etc. Here's how it would go "my thoughts":

A 60 minute debate would break down to this:

58 minutes = Sui on the attack, you suck, you are evil...blah blah blah.

2 minutes = Me. Saying "I didn't say that" "You are putting words in my mouth" "Back up, you are making assumptions" etc etc.

See what I'm saying? Sui is an agenda predator ready and looking to pounce on someone. A debate with that guy would be a total cluster. No reasonable person would waste the time on that nonsense.

[osoab]

No argument here. My point was an "honest" debate. What does that mean to sui?

My take, say I debated Sui live on police/law/constitution, etc. Here's how it would go "my thoughts":

A 60 minute debate would break down to this:

58 minutes = Sui on the attack, you suck, you are evil...blah blah blah.

2 minutes = Me. Saying "I didn't say that" "You are putting words in my mouth" "Back up, you are making assumptions" etc etc.

See what I'm saying? Sui is an agenda predator ready and looking to pounce on someone. A debate with that guy would be a total cluster. No reasonable person would waste the time on that nonsense.

I can see your point on Sui's zealousness. The dude can be overwhelming and in your face. I still think he would have to breathe while skyping though. 7th would get enough of his drivel in.

[Hitch]

I can see your point on Sui's zealousness. The dude can be overwhelming and in your face. I still think he would have to breathe while skyping though. 7th would get enough of his drivel in.

I would much rather see a 7th and Ximmy debate. The way they go back and forth is absolutely hilarious. Imagine them as a couple sitting down at the dinner table together. What a riot.

[Cebu_4_2]

I would much rather see a 7th and Ximmy debate. The way they go back and forth is absolutely hilarious. Imagine them as a couple sitting down at the dinner table together. What a riot.

Make sure there is police presence.

[7th trump]

Don't do that, 7th. It won't be a debate. A debate is an honest interaction and discussion, what sui is offering is not honest.

Don't worry Hitch....he's tried to get me to debate him several times before....it never comes to pass.
It doesn't because his position is completely destroyed when I ask him if he uses his assigned ssn on government forms...thus making him a subject of the governments.
His whole argument goes up in smoke with that one question.

Yes Sui......I completely know where you are coming from, but you get being a "slave" wrong.
You're definition of "slave" is one of being involuntary and trying to inject that definition in todays setting....that's wrong!
Its wrong because nobody forces nobody to disclose the assign ssn on government forms thus making that person a subject.
Theres only one individual who makes you a subject of the governments..........and that is YOU!

[7th trump]

I would much rather see a 7th and Ximmy debate. The way they go back and forth is absolutely hilarious. Imagine them as a couple sitting down at the dinner table together. What a riot.

LOL Hitch!!
I'm visualizing Ximmy out of the blue scooping up a huge spoon full of mash potatoes and flicking it at me and missing because as a chicken I have no head.
LOL!!!!!!
The potatoes go flying past me and smacks the back of the head of a big burly tattooed biker chick behind me (thud).............(complete silence......and everyone looks towards Ximmy with the spoon in her hand and the sound of a small lump of potatoes falling of the spoon and onto Ximmy's plate)........................and the fights on.

[7th trump]

It would be a one sided debate solid. Sui, would eat "headless chicken's" lunch.

7th is truly delusional. He would rather kill anyone that doesn't agree with him. He is truly a blind radical.

You get me all wrong Osoab.
I'm a loyal honest person, so honest its painful. The truth is a double edge sword, it cuts both ways if you aren't careful.
Some people don't like seeing, or being reminded, of their true selves in the raw...and its usually the ones who lash out at me.
I look at situations through and through for what they are....with no emotions involved.
I take no sides, but when someone is in the wrong...I let them know!
And then to prove them wrong?
If you cant see the truth for what it is....then you are not honest.....how many times have you heard me tell that phrase to people?
You have to leave the emotions out if you want to get to the truth.

I'm not here to make friends............and I could care less. Their HUMBLE honesty will tell me if they are friend or foo!
It doesn't take me but a few minutes to tell if a person is genuine or dishonest.

[BrewTech]

I would much rather see a 7th and Ximmy debate. The way they go back and forth is absolutely hilarious. Imagine them as a couple sitting down at the dinner table together. What a riot.

Pay Per View! O:[##]

[Neuro]

Pay Per View! O:[##]
Perfect emoticon! :)

[Santa]

Perfect emoticon! :)

It's a violent emoticon. We need the police to protect us from it.

[Horn]

You get me all wrong Osoab.
I'm a loyal honest person, so honest its painful..

Thank goodness for internet forums, a place for pouring pain's derision.

[7th trump]

And the cop gets interviewed to what happened.....seems these two guys had it coming.
Also, the cop was approached by other kids as to a problem with the first guy.
Seems I was correct after....the two party goers were just drunken thugs with a history of being in trouble.
Not their first rodeo with the authority's either.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/officers-takedown-of-drunk-spring-breakers-goes-viral/vi-AA9PDvO?ocid=iehp