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EE_
11th March 2015, 07:17 PM
340,000 being born to illegals each year.
Houston immigrant population growing 2X national average.

Birthright Citizenship: The New Immigration Scam

BY LIZ PEEK,
The Fiscal Times
March 11, 2015
Immigration policy – and in particular what to do about the 11 million people in the U.S. illegally – is the new litmus test for the GOP. The arguments over “amnesty” and border security are stale, but the passions are not.

Scott Walker is only the latest candidate to stumble over the immigration tripwire. Though previously supportive of providing a path to citizenship for undocumented residents, now the Wisconsin governor is talking up border security. Advice to candidates: maybe it’s time for some new policy ideas, like demanding an end to our so-called “birthright citizenship.”

Among developed nations, only the U.S. and Canada still offer automatic citizenship to children born on their soil. Not a single European country follows the practice. We take this right for granted, but the evidence is that this entitlement encourages a booming birth tourism business (which undermines our immigration objectives) and virtually guarantees that the number of people in the country illegally will continue to grow.

Federal agents recently raided 37 sites in southern California, which appear to have provided thousands of Chinese women the chance to give birth to babies on U.S. soil in exchange for fees of up to $60,000. Enticements included not only the opportunity to acquire automatic citizenship for their children – a package of free schooling, food, health and retirement benefits potentially worth millions of dollars – but also more mundane attractions like nannies, trips to Disneyland and fancy restaurants.

The New York Times notes that affidavits filed by law enforcement authorities “quote Chinese government sources as reporting that Chinese nationals had 10,000 babies in the United States in 2012, up from 4,200 in 2008.”

For prosperous Chinese or residents of unstable countries like Russia, an American passport represents an invaluable safety net. Some estimate that as many as 40,000 children from all over the world are born under such circumstances in the U.S. each year. Over time, with family members climbing aboard, the total allowed into the country multiples.

Once those babies turn 21, and if they are in the country, they can sponsor other family members to enter the U.S. Under our law, which promotes family unification, parents, siblings and minor children of a U.S. citizen are welcome. According to a report from John Feere of the Center for Immigration Studies, admitting family members account for most of the nation’s growth in immigration levels. Of the 1,130,818 immigrants who were granted legal permanent residency in 2009, a total of 747,413 (or, 66 percent) were family-sponsored immigrants.

The commercial exploitation of our laws is repugnant and should be targeted. But the entire notion that any baby born on U.S. soil should become a citizen should be challenged as well. The lure of U.S. citizenship is incalculable, and has long encouraged illegal immigration. In a phone interview, Feere estimates that some 300,000 to 400,000 babies are born each year to people living in the country illegally. Pew puts the figure at 340,000. This obviously causes substantial growth in the undocumented population, which most would like to limit.

Critics of the “amnesty” being offered to millions of undocumented persons by President Obama say that the offer will only encourage more illegal entrants – and entice even more families to have babies in the U.S. Obama’s plan provides protection against deportation for three years, and singles out the undocumented parents of U.S. citizens and legal permanent residents who have lived in the country for at least five years.

Some 4 to 5 million immigrants fall under that umbrella, people who had children once inside the country -- children who automatically became U.S. citizens. Advocates of immigration reform need to convince opponents that they will reduce the number of undocumented persons entering the country. While many preach border security, it would be more powerful to make illegal residency less attractive. Revoking the birthright citizenship would be a good start.

Immigration advocates argue that automatic citizenship is protected by the 14th amendment of the Constitution, which states, “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.” Others say the history of that amendment suggests otherwise; the debate hasn’t stopped legislators from attempting to limit the practice.

The first such attempt was in 1993, at the hands of none other than immigrant advocate Harry Reid, whose bill would have restricted automatic citizenship to the children of U.S. citizens and legal resident aliens. Today, Louisiana Senator David Vitter is set to propose an amendment restricting the automatic citizenship provision to babies born to a U.S. citizen or a person who is a permanent resident or serving in the military. This would seem a reasonable change in the current law.

Like so many policy debates, the issue of birthright citizenship may eventually land in the lap of the Supreme Court. Feere says that while there have been rulings that grant citizenship to the children of permanent resident aliens, there has been no decision on the children of temporary aliens – such as people visiting legally on a student visa – or on babies born to illegal immigrants.

Astonishingly, the government, which Feere describes as being on “automatic pilot” on this issue, even gives passports to children born to foreign diplomats here – clearly people not “subject to the jurisdiction” of the U.S. When he followed up with the Social Security Administration on this question, he was told they knew the practice was inappropriate, but were not sure how to monitor it. Sigh.

- See more at: http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2015/03/11/Birthright-Citizenship-New-Immigration-Scam#sthash.kVCMI1oT.dpuf

Houston immigrant growth 'in a class by itself'
Two journeys with different endings illustrate most diverse metro in U.S.

By Lomi KrielMarch 10, 2015 Updated: March 11, 2015 2:21pm

Photo: Melissa Phillip, Staff Lulu Thompson, center, left three daughters in the Philippines when she came to Houston to work as a nurse. The daughters, including Lauren Delumpa, left, and Maria Vo, later joined her.
As a young mother in the Philippines, Lulu Thompson faced a difficult decision. The nurse was struggling to support her three small girls on her salary, but in the U.S. a high-paying job beckoned that would enable her to provide far more for her family. But she'd have to leave them behind.

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Dogman
11th March 2015, 07:27 PM
Think last week or so, CNN had a blurb about women from China coming here to have their kids so citizenship was automatically given to their kids! It is big business in China and big bucks to send mom to be here to drop their kid on our soil
For the citizen ticket!

Multiple thousands come here every year to do the deed and no laws against it to date.

There needs to be laws against it!

EE_
11th March 2015, 07:45 PM
Think last week or so, CNN had a blurb about women from China coming here to have their kids so citizenship was automatically given to their kids! It is big business in China and big bucks to send mom to be here to drop their kid on our soil
For the citizen ticket!

Multiple thousands come here every year to do the deed and no laws against it to date.

There needs to be laws against it!

I'm for creating a bigger problem that will force the people to fix it.
Remove all border patrols and open all borders to anyone that wants to come. Since there doesn't seem to be an exact number on how many can be in the US illegally now, or how many of their babies can get citizenship. The system needs to be destroyed before anyone will do something about it. Do you think it would be a problem if the hospitals got 1,000 illegals delivering babies everyday, or schools being over run and no money to handle them?

Dogman
11th March 2015, 07:55 PM
I see a long term weapon against us here!

Born here raised and programmed there then when grown sent here! And if raised and trained from birth speaking american English with all idioms the now adult's can travel and work anywhere with no one having a clue!

Perfect sleeper agents with perfect and legit paperwork!

midnight rambler
11th March 2015, 08:08 PM
Tailgunner Joe was right, the Commie Satan worshipers have ended up turning things upside down, now wrong is right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback

steyr_m
11th March 2015, 09:36 PM
Wow, "The West" is doomed. I only see this:

http://www.amazon.com/Civil-War-Two-Breakup-America/dp/0929408179

singular_me
11th March 2015, 09:42 PM
300,000 to 400,000 babies are born each year to people living in the country illegally........

there is no way back, irreversible damage... even in africa, they have immigration issues due to endless guerrillas (sponsored by corporations/western interventions/humanitarian packages/etc)

maybe will it benefit voluntaryism in 10 years from now, people will eventually understand why an open border policy is needed to get out

expat4ever
11th March 2015, 11:27 PM
The country has always looked different 10 -20 years ago ever since the white man got here.

palani
12th March 2015, 04:32 AM
Here is how immigration control was implemented in England for many hundreds of years:


THE civil division of the territory of England is into counties, of those counties into hundreds, of those hundreds into tithings or towns. Which division, as it now stands, seems to owe it's original to king Alfred ; who, to prevent the rapines and disorders which formerly prevailed in the realm, instituted tithings ; so called, from the Saxon, because ten freeholders with their families composed one. These all dwelt together, and were sureties or free pledges to the king for the good behaviour of each other ; and, if any offence were committed in their district, they were bound to have the offender forthcoming. And therefore antiently no man was suffered to abide in England above forty days, unless he were enrolled in some tithing or decennary. One of the principal inhabitants of the tithing is annually appointed to preside over the rest, being called the tithing-man, the the head-borough, (words which speak their own etymology) and in some countries the borsholder, or borough's-ealder, being suppofed the discreetest man in the borough, town, or tithing.

Only in Delaware does the Hundreds/tithing concept seem to have survived and there is confusion over the use of the word 'county'. As implemented in the United States a county is simply a civil subdivision of a State and there are no people in any county. Nature abhors vacuum so it seems natural that people want to come into an area at which they have no settlement to seek one.

Now settlement is a concept you don't hear much about any more. If you (or anyone) is permitted to stay in an area for over 40 days then you (or any other) can rely upon that group for support, welfare, medical care, unemployment and the whole works. Levant et couchant is another concept whereby you lay in one spot for the space of a day and suddenly have acquired rights to that spot.

hoarder
12th March 2015, 06:25 AM
"The Jewish people as a whole will be its own Messiah. It will attain world domination by the dissolution of other races...and by the establishment of a world republic in which everywhere the Jews will exercise the privilege of citizenship. In this New World Order the Children of Israel...will furnish all the leaders without encountering opposition..." (Karl Marx in a letter to Baruch Levy, quoted in Review de Paris, June 1, 1928, p. 574)



"We must realize that our party's most powerful weapon is racial tensions. By propounding into the consciousness of the dark races that for centuries they have been oppressed by whites, we can mold them to the program of the Communist Party. In America we will aim for subtle victory. While inflaming the Negro minority against the whites, we will endeavor to instill in the whites a guilt complex for their exploitation of the Negroes. We will aid the Negroes to rise in prominence in every walk of life, in the professions and in the world of sports and entertainment. With this prestige, the Negro will be able to intermarry with the whites and begin a process which will deliver America to our cause."
Israel Cohen, A Racial Program for the Twentieth Century, 1912. Also in the Congressional Record, Vol. 103, p. 8559, June 7, 1957

ximmy
12th March 2015, 12:55 PM
"The Jewish people as a whole will be its own Messiah. It will attain world domination by the dissolution of other races...and by the establishment of a world republic in which everywhere the Jews will exercise the privilege of citizenship. In this New World Order the Children of Israel...will furnish all the leaders without encountering opposition..." (Karl Marx in a letter to Baruch Levy, quoted in Review de Paris, June 1, 1928, p. 574)



"We must realize that our party's most powerful weapon is racial tensions. By propounding into the consciousness of the dark races that for centuries they have been oppressed by whites, we can mold them to the program of the Communist Party. In America we will aim for subtle victory. While inflaming the Negro minority against the whites, we will endeavor to instill in the whites a guilt complex for their exploitation of the Negroes. We will aid the Negroes to rise in prominence in every walk of life, in the professions and in the world of sports and entertainment. With this prestige, the Negro will be able to intermarry with the whites and begin a process which will deliver America to our cause."
Israel Cohen, A Racial Program for the Twentieth Century, 1912. Also in the Congressional Record, Vol. 103, p. 8559, June 7, 1957

bump

Jewboo
12th March 2015, 02:40 PM
http://oi41.tinypic.com/2dln8s4.jpg


:rolleyes:

singular_me
12th March 2015, 02:57 PM
awful cliches make the world go round... it all about pavlov... something the NWO has always known and it is STILL working wonders.

mick silver
13th March 2015, 01:42 PM
this country looks nothing like it did 20 years ago . hell most don't remember the days that no one with watching ever move you made in this country .......... times are a changing

Dogman
13th March 2015, 01:46 PM
this country looks nothing like it did 20 years ago . hell most don't remember the days that no one with watching ever move you made in this country .......... times are a changing

Hell Mick I make my comparisons back to 50 or so years ago!

Much simpler times and I suspect living and life was more enjoyed!

mick silver
13th March 2015, 01:50 PM
but dog most don't remember last week . not sure your age but I am only 55 going on 16 this month

Dogman
13th March 2015, 01:58 PM
but dog most don't remember last week . not sure your age but I am only 55 going on 16 this month

Got 9 years or so on you! ;). ;(

25 to 30 would be my go back age!