Black box memory card stolen from crash site of Germanwings jetliner?

[singular_me]

now conspiracy theories are going to go wild again
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Black box memory card stolen from crash site of Germanwings jetliner? Plausible cover-up theories now taking shape
Thursday 26th March 2015

................ ‘Now with the Germanwings jetliner incident, we have the New York Times “pulling a CNN,” you might say. According to this NYT story, the memory card of one of the airplane’s two black boxes is missing, and the story claims it must have been “destroyed by the impact.”

“Investigators have so far been unable to retrieve data from one black box, and the other was badly damaged and its memory card was missing,” reports the New York Times.

If you read the logic of that sentence, it seems to state that no data was recovered from either black box, right?

But then in the exact same story, the NYT also reports, “Remi Jouty, director of France’s Bureau of Investigation and Analysis, confirmed that audio of voices had been recovered from the black box in the crash of the Germanwings plane in the French Alps.”‘

So, wait: there WAS voice recording data recovered from one of the black boxes? Confusing things even further, another paragraph in the same story says:

At the crash site, a senior official working on the investigation said, workers found the casing of the plane's other black box, the flight data recorder, but the memory card containing data on the plane's altitude, speed, location and condition was not inside, apparently having been thrown loose or destroyed by the impact.

So what we really have here is a story about two black boxes: one which either has voice data on it or doesn't have voice data on it, and the other black box which we are supposed to believe was located but the memory card it protects was missing because it was destroyed even though it was surrounded by a black box that's almost impervious to destruction.

Black boxes are designed to survive plane crashes... DOH!
Now, those of you who understand the laws of physics -- which obviously makes you a terrorist in modern America where any real grasp of scientific reality is widely condemned -- know that black boxes are designed for the precise purpose of making sure nothing inside them gets destroyed even in a violent airplane explosion or impact crash.

If black boxes did not survive plane crashes, there would be no real point in having them in the first place....... more

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/049124_Germanwings_black_box_cover-up.html#ixzz3VU8JKpyR

[Glass]

They are claiming here that the co-pilot suicided the plane. they have voice recordings of a normal flight, captain hands controls and leaves cockpit. Co pilot wont let him back in. Heard breathing of co-pilot so claiming he was awake. Plane descended into the ground. No one knew until plane went bang.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/world/a/26801825/germanwings-pilot-locked-out-of-cockpit-at-time-of-crash/


(https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/world/a/26801825/germanwings-pilot-locked-out-of-cockpit-at-time-of-crash/)The last 30 minutes...


*ROBIN SAYS INVESTIGATORS HAVE TRANSCRIPT OF LAST 30 MINUTES
*ROBIN SAYS COMMANDER ASKED CO-PILOT TO TAKE COMMAND
*ROBIN SAYS COMMANDER LEAVES COCKPIT, LEAVING CO-PILOT
*CO-PILOT STARTED FLIGHT MONITORING SYSTEM FOR DESCENT: ROBIN
*DESCENT COULD ONLY HAVE BEEN VOLUNATRY, ROBIN SAYS
*COPILOT DIDN'T RESPOND TO CALLS TO OPEN DOOR: ROBIN
*COMMANDER TRIES TO RE-ENTER COCKPIT BUT NOT ABLE: ROBIN
*CO-PILOT APPEARS TO HAVE REFUSED TO OPEN DOOR FOR PILOT: ROBIN
*COPILOT WAS ALIVE TO THE VERY END: ROBIN
*COPILOT'S BREATHING HEARD TO THE VERY END: ROBIN
*ROBIN SAYS C0-PILOT HAD NORMAL BREATHING, NO SIGN OF ILLNESS
*CO-PILOT CAN BE HEARD BREATHING RIGHT UP TO FINAL IMPACT: ROBIN
*FRENCH PROSECUTOR ROBIN SAYS CO-PILOT REFUSED TO OPEN COCKPIT

The implications...


*CO-PILOT SEEMS TO HAVE SOUGHT TO DESTROY THE PLANE: ROBIN
*CO-PILOT APPEARS TO HAVE WANTED TO DESTROY AIRPLANE: ROBIN


(https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/world/a/26801825/germanwings-pilot-locked-out-of-cockpit-at-time-of-crash/)
ZeroHedge (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-26/germanwings-co-pilot-deliberately-destroyed-airplane-identified-28-year-old-german-c)

Remotely Made to descend?

[singular_me]

I'd prefer to wait a week to have this confirmed... I really hope that it is what has happened


They are claiming here that the co-pilot suicided the plane. they have voice recordings of a normal flight, captain hands controls and leaves cockpit. Co pilot wont let him back in. Heard breathing of co-pilot so claiming he was awake. Plane descended into the ground. No one knew until plane went bang.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/world/a/26801825/germanwings-pilot-locked-out-of-cockpit-at-time-of-crash/


(https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/world/a/26801825/germanwings-pilot-locked-out-of-cockpit-at-time-of-crash/)
ZeroHedge (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-26/germanwings-co-pilot-deliberately-destroyed-airplane-identified-28-year-old-german-c)

Remotely Made to descend?

[Glass]

yes I think we need to see the passenger list as well. This story came out quickly. As if they already had the narrative prepared ahead of time.

[Glass]

Just hearing reports that Police have removed significant items for testing from the co-pilots 2 homes. Apparently he split his time between 2 residences. His housemate in one has been taken in for questioning. They have removed a PC, some item of interest and quite a lot of other stuff in big blue bags. I'm guessing mostly a made for "TV' event.

Anyway, no doubt more to come.

[Norweger]

Judging by how smashed the plane is I'd say it was blown up. We had a similar incident in a military exercise with Sweden a couple of years back where a low flying Norwegian military plane was supposed to "fly low to avoid being shot down" where it supposedly crashed into a mountain and turned into little bits.

Why are these New World Order types so obsessed with planes?

[Glass]

Judging by how smashed the plane is I'd say it was blown up. We had a similar incident in a military exercise with Sweden a couple of years back where a low flying Norwegian military plane was supposed to "fly low to avoid being shot down" where it supposedly crashed into a mountain and turned into little bits.

Why are these New World Order types so obsessed with planes?

People they don't like fly on them I suppose.

Interesting you say that because I was looking at the wreckage and thinking, geez thats not much intact stuff there. Smithereens was what I thought. then I saw that strip of fuselage and I thought Lockerbie.

Maybe you are on to it. What was the flight number?

[Dogman]

People they don't like fly on them I suppose.

Interesting you say that because I was looking at the wreckage and thinking, geez thats not much intact stuff there. Smithereens was what I thought. then I saw that strip of fuselage and I thought Lockerbie.

Maybe you are on to it. What was the flight number?

Think that aircraft is mostly carbon fiber so it will not crumple but shatter into bits.

[Glass]

the inside is certainly plastic. I thought they were aluminum and tungsten in some places.

I know they hit a mountain but wondering from the images I've seen what angle they hit it at. They said the plane descended at about 30 degrees. I guess in that terrain it is not going to gouge along the ground at all?

the plane flight number was 9525. Crashed 25th March 2015. What can our resident numberologists make of that? It actually had 2 flight number designations.

[Dogman]

the inside is certainly plastic. I thought they were aluminum and tungsten in some places.

I know they hit a mountain but wondering from the images I've seen what angle they hit it at. They said the plane descended at about 30 degrees. I guess in that terrain it is not going to gouge along the ground at all?

the plane flight number was 9525. Crashed 25th March 2015. What can our resident numberologists make of that? It actually had 2 flight number designations.

Not so much anymore the fuselage and wings now have a huge amount of carbon fiber in them. But that a/c is what 25 years old or so?

A320 fuselageThe primary structures of the A320 are of composite construction with aramid fibre (AFRP), glass fibre (GFRP) and carbon fibre (CFRP) reinforced plastics. The A320 is the first subsonic aircraft to incorporate composite primary structures.



http://www.aerospace-technology.com/projects/a320/

[cheka.]

remote control crash? fighter jet in the mix...

then a no-fly zone over the scene...

http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/2015/03/27/france-mirage-germanwings/70540076/

France committed extensive air and ground resources, including a Mirage, after an alarm sounded on the loss of contact in French airspace of an Airbus A320 operated by Germanwings, a low-cost subsidiary of Lufthansa, on March 24.

The French services dispatched a Mirage fighter as soon as the civil flight authorities lost radio contact with the civilian aircraft, the defense ministry said March 25 on its website. The airliner was flying over France on route from Barcelona to Dusseldorf.

The Germanwings co-pilot, for reasons unknown, flew the airliner into a mountainside in the French Alps, slaying all 150 on board.

A Mirage 2000-C based at the Orange airbase in southern France, was deployed once the alert was sounded on the loss of communication between the airliner and air traffic control.

The French services sent a Fennec helicopter to prevent flights over the wreckage area. Six Air Force and Army helicopters joined in search and rescue, and to transport freight, intervention teams and government officials. An additional three helicopters also flew missions to prevent other aircraft to flying over the site.

The Air Force flew a C-135FR to provide a radio contact between aircraft and air traffic control.

Some 70 troops from the 4th regiment at the Gap army base worked that morning laying down signs for the path up to the wreckage. A team at the Lyon Mont-Verdun airbase coordinated flights of the armed forces, civil security and paramilitary gendarmes.

[Serpo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=1142&v=7OcR7HZIIRI

[singular_me]

airline knowing that copilot was fighting depression.... to explain a suicide by plane... it has no legs. no airline would tolerate a disturbed pilot to fly a plane


German Airliner Downed By NATO War Games
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6BHX0eSswQ

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More Hard Proof Germanwings Crash is a Hoax
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?82798-More-Hard-Proof-Germanwings-Crash-is-a-Hoax&highlight=germanwings

[Glass]

do we know who is on the plane. Has here been a passenger manifest?

So he says it was a US laser test against ICBM's but they got the airliner instead. Large scale electrical conditions in the atmosphere. UK radar network went down at the same time, potentially caused by the large electrical disturbance.

Could explain why the plane disintegrated. Was the disturbance caused by the laser energy? No military exercises that included the overwhelming of the civilian radar network so that multiple craft disappeared from view. As many as 50 at a time. So multiple elements, radar failures and lasers being fired. NATO war games at the time.

But then he says that because the radar network went down, the aircraft was unable to maintain altitude??? seems odd. He seems to have a lot of information.

[Glass]

Dahboo777's take on it. Witness statements etc. Plane in pieces and smoking as it comes down. No intact bodies. Fuselage up stream from crash site.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4CtTyC7Y8k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4CtTyC7Y8k

[Horn]

http://www.eutimes.net/2015/03/us-laser-test-destroys-germanwings-airliner-killing-150-innocent-civilians/

[7th trump]

do we know who is on the plane. Has here been a passenger manifest?

So he says it was a US laser test against ICBM's but they got the airliner instead. Large scale electrical conditions in the atmosphere. UK radar network went down at the same time, potentially caused by the large electrical disturbance.

Could explain why the plane disintegrated. Was the disturbance caused by the laser energy? No military exercises that included the overwhelming of the civilian radar network so that multiple craft disappeared from view. As many as 50 at a time. So multiple elements, radar failures and lasers being fired. NATO war games at the time.

But then he says that because the radar network went down, the aircraft was unable to maintain altitude??? seems odd. He seems to have a lot of information.

If he said the radar going down caused the plane to lose altitude the guy is a moron and shouldnt be trusted for anything.
Ground radar going down doesnt cause a plane to lose altitude....speed and angle of flight causes planes to go down.

Ive been seeing some stories about ground control cant see a plane on radar when they turn off its transponder .....thats a load of armchair expert crap.
Transponders give infomation about the plane to the ground control...has nothing at all to do with being able to see it on the radar screen. Its virtually impossible for an airliner not to be seen by radar.

[Glass]

yes he said a whole heap of things. Quite a lot and I was typing points as he spoke, trying to keep up. He was basically reading a bunch of different articles himself. I don't think he claimed any one theory to himself. I think like you he recognized some of the theories were plain bunk.

The co pilot is Jewish and I think he is specifically concerned the co pilot is being scape goated. He seems to have some sources of info that are good but outside the MSM that we get. I think it's worth a watch if you haven't seen it. Raises good points.

[singular_me]

Remote Control: Aviation Expert Says Germanwings 9525 Could Have Been ‘Hacked Electronically’
Wednesday 15th April 2015

‘Following a series of high-profile airline disasters, including Germanwings flight 9525, the mainstream media has seized the opportunity to openly push for ‘pilotless’ commercial airliners.

There has been a concentrated effort to gain public support for pilotless commercial flights and other unmanned aerial aircraft in recent years. Those behind the concept have touted the development of such avionics under the guise of “safety concerns”, unfairly laying blame on pilots – without fully revealing all of the technological advancements which are currently installed on nearly every commercial airliner worldwide.’

http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/04/13/remote-control-aviation-expert-says-germanwings-9525-could-have-been-hacked-electronically/