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27th March 2015, 08:43 AM
The Anger Trap
ConspiracySocial Engineering
by Zen Gardner - Mar 14, 201578 774
We’re all pissed off in some form or another. No question. No one can sit idly by with any level of consciousness and not be ticked off by the insanity, inequities and atrocities going on around us. That’s righteous anger and there’s nothing wrong with it.
But we must keep anger in its place. The general populace is being set up and baited for violent response.
All they’re waiting for is a justification to herd the unsuspecting flock right into their tightfisted fascist paradigm as the police state takes shape around us.
Don’t fall for the trap.
Think Obama’s “crotch salutes” to fallen vets don’t piss off middle “patriotic” Americans? All his actions are scripted and designed to induce compliance, or else to make people’s blood boil. Divide and conquer.
An Old Trick at Work
Induced passions make people easily manipulated. When we fear or act in anger we are not fully conscious nor fully empowered. Our vision is impaired and our reasoning seriously tainted. Anger is akin to fear, and the ability to manipulate those acting in anger and fear is very similar.
Dr. William Sargant, a psychiatrist with the illuminist Tavistock Institute, wrote in his 1957 book, The Battle For The Mind:
“Various types of belief can be implanted in people after brain function has been deliberately disturbed by accidentally or deliberately induced fear, anger, or excitement. Of the results caused by such disturbances the most common one is temporarily impaired judgment and heightened suggestibility. Its various group manifestations are sometimes classed under the heading of “herd instinct”, and appear most spectacularly in wartime, during severe epidemics, and all similar periods of common danger, which increase anxiety and so individual and mass suggestibility.” Source
So while people get aroused and decide to become active within the framework they’ve been handed by the manipulators we’re often walking right into their paradigm that grips like a Chinese handcuff–strengthening the enemy’s hold on us by fighting them on their level and on their terms.
History proves this. One system toppled by the same tactics used by the oppressor becomes a replacement system, and the Masonic pattern continues.
Amerika – Born and Bred in Violence
The Boston tea party was thrown by dressed up Freemasons to provoke exactly what they got. Another violent stronghold obtained by violence, built on violence, and that has since executed nothing but violence on the world since its inception, whether culturally, economically or militarily. Just ask the millions of exterminated and incarcerated native Americans about the “freedom of religion” excuse these invaders used to go there in the first place.
If the old adage is true that “they that live by the sword shall die by the sword”, what America is about to reap is not going to be pretty.
Why should the “innocent” Amerikans suffer this causal reflex, you say? Because by and large Americans not only did nothing to stop the pillaging and atrocities being carried out by its corporo-fascist government and those they support such as insane genocidal Israel, but they de facto supported these programs and ever more importantly, luxuriated in the profits and delicacies of an over-indulgent resource-pillaging machine, sucking the very life blood of the poor of the world.
And yes, the U.S. isn’t the only player in this. These selfish parasites are internationalists stationed around the globe, but the US is its primary arm of oppression and exemplifies all of these characteristics.
The Deliberate Piss-Off
The breakdown our world is undergoing is deliberate – and people are catching on faster and faster. It’s getting to where almost anyone can see the banksters deliberately pulled the financial plug for their periodic harvest. The media disinformation and obfuscation of truth as well has become outright Orwellian as the migration into alternative news sources continues to accelerate.
Granted, much of the public still takes the disempowering soma-swill of the never ending promise of “hope and change”, but the matrix mirage is rapidly evaporating for all to see.
That’s the vibrational change we’re talking about. Inside and out.
It’s now obvious to a vast swathe of humanity that our social fabric has been dissolved by anti-moral, anti-human doctrines of seemingly satanic self-indulgence and death worship. Our food, air and water supplies are deliberately poisoned. Our leadership is clearly dishonest, shallow and inept. Even disasters, very many man-made consequences of deliberate tinkering with mother nature, are manipulated for profit and strategic control of populations.
Major political, economic and social changes in society don’t just happen–they’re engineered. With guaranteed outcomes.
Either way they win. But their time is almost up.
Watch for Provocations…and Pre-Programming the Solution
False Flag operations have been the most successful hoodwinks to date. The relatively recent big ones like 9/11 and 7/7 in London and other staged incidences such as the many shootings and bombings like Sandy Hook and the Boston Bombing, were carefully led up to by the Oklahoma City, USS Cole, US Embassy and other similar bombings to give the “official” explanations credibility.
Yes, it is that planned and yes, it is that nefarious.
The Occupy movement was treated as a test run on handling a larger scale street fight in the US. A fight they are preparing for at an astounding speed, buying guns and ammunition to arm not just police, but now military battalions being stationed in US cities while armed drones are dispatched overhead. Talk about a preemptive strike.
And the latest trigger pins?
Try the new black vs white racist provocations the press is fanning such as the Ferguson riots, or the induced Islamophobia now metasticising in western society, or the revival of the cold war fear syndrome against Russia. How about the NSA revelations and “re-education camps” now in the public information domain? Or the insane actions of the TSA or local police, or the inflammatory rhetoric regarding anything anti-government, resorting to labeling anything contrary to the status quo or mainstream propaganda as “home grown terrorism”?
It’s sick, it’s staged, and it’s designed to provoke a response…and is dutifully bilked for every media minute they can get to create the problem-reaction-solution scenario they so love and thrive on.
What Do We Do?
Our conscious confrontation needs to be at a deeper level of awareness. While we need to make our voices known, relegating all apparent public expression to some angry demonstration will not just go practically nowhere, but play right into the Controllers’ hands. We need to express, but smartly. We need to first of all be fully aware of what we’re up against, its full dimensions and implications, but then infiltrate at the grass roots level in any way we’re called and be consciously disciplined about it.
A good singular example of this is “Food Sovereignty Activism” that perfectly encapsulates what one person’s actions can do. And this is just one of many thousands of examples. But I dare say confronting a police battalion in public and getting your head bashed in by those robots might not do much more than piss people off more, thanks to a twisted complicit media.
Demonstrating is not all bad and there’s clearly a time for it. This is especially true within public governmental chambers and places of local decision making. Just don’t play into one of their traps, usually fueled by them via controlled opposition. See Controlled Opposition – The Hidden Hand of Misdirection.
Hit the Matrix Where It Hurts
Motivation comes in all forms, but we must behave smartly. We need to hit where it hurts the matrix the most and empowers as many as possible. Some ideas:
#1. Inform. True information clears the deck. It neutralizes the effects of the enemy’s propaganda. That has to be done first.
#2. Live in alignment with your convictions. We can’t speak truth to the lie while living within its bondage. Break free, in any and every way we can. Screw the consequences if it’s matrix stuff, it’s not worth worrying about. “Lead, follow, or get out of the way” as they say.
#3. Persist. As we follow on in a conviction of the power of Truth and Love it will lead each of us on to more ways of having a greater effect.
#4. Teach others. Mainly by example. If you live a committed life and have paid the price of giving up a cozy life of security for one of spiritual fulfillment and helping to change the world, others will be prodded to do more themselves. We don’t want to cram anything down anyone’s throats. We live by the example of commitment the enlightening love of the truth speaks for itself.
#5. Act locally. Find or create local communities of active and awake people. Whether it’s a food co-op or meet up groups to discuss how to change your town or city for the better, this is where we need to operate from. With the world crashing around us we need to find each other and work and build together on every front.
All the while continuing to broadcast the truth in any way we can.
After all, what else is there to live for?
Love, Zen
http://www.zengardner.com/the-anger-trap/
palani
27th March 2015, 09:07 AM
The Law of Attraction. Good thoughts attract good things. Evil thoughts and anger attract more anger and evil things.
mick silver
27th March 2015, 09:12 AM
It’s sick, it’s staged, and it’s designed to provoke a response…and is dutifully bilked for every media minute they can get to create the problem-reaction-solution scenario they so love and thrive on.
Ares
27th March 2015, 09:20 AM
Fairytale logic.
Power only recognizes force. You can disengage, speak "truth to power", and preach "non-violence" until you're blue in the face. But it just doesn't work. Pacifist are pussies. If they had it their way, we'd all be getting beaten 24/7 to show everyone how violent the state is, but god forbid if we ever have enough and decide to fight back... No you can't do that... :rolleyes:
woodman
27th March 2015, 10:06 AM
The Law of Attraction. Good thoughts attract good things. Evil thoughts and anger attract more anger and evil things.
Yeah, then reality hits you like a freight train. Thoughts are nothing. Deeds are everything.
Jewboo
27th March 2015, 11:06 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07koWDo7-P0
Anger is a release.................not a trap.
:rolleyes:
palani
27th March 2015, 11:23 AM
Thoughts are nothing. Deeds are everything.
Thoughts are everything. You are responsible for your own thoughts. Follow your path and you will end up doing more damage to yourself than anyone else is able to.
woodman
27th March 2015, 11:40 AM
Thoughts are everything. You are responsible for your own thoughts. Follow your path and you will end up doing more damage to yourself than anyone else is able to.
Thought are just thoughts. Unless you can move things with your mind, your mind, in and off itself, can effect no change on the environment that surrounds you. Reality is when you "thought" it would be smart to feed the bear and the bear rips your arm off.
Words are deeds because of the act of speaking. Words relay thought and properly used can induce very powerful deeds.
palani
27th March 2015, 11:48 AM
Thought are just thoughts. Unless you can move things with your mind
Ever tried an old game called TABLE UP?
Believe in dowsing to find water or anything else?
Do you believe people might have 'healing hands'?
Ever tried a OUIJA BOARD? [I surely don't recommend this one as it has the ability to attract things you would rather avoid]
ximmy
27th March 2015, 11:50 AM
Thoughts are everything. You are responsible for your own thoughts. Follow your path and you will end up doing more damage to yourself than anyone else is able to.
Thought are just thoughts. Unless you can move things with your mind, your mind, in and off itself, can effect no change on the environment that surrounds you. Reality is when you "thought" it would be smart to feed the bear and the bear rips your arm off.
Words are deeds because of the act of speaking. Words relay thought and properly used can induce very powerful deeds.
each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed. Then, after desire has conceived [in the mind, thought], it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death. (james 1:14-15)
mick silver
27th March 2015, 11:54 AM
I am pissed off
palani
27th March 2015, 11:58 AM
I am pissed off
Now this is a prime example of looking for the good rather than the bad.
Better to be pissed off than pissed on.
Jewboo
27th March 2015, 12:00 PM
each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed. Then, after desire has conceived
[in the mind, thought], it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death. (james 1:14-15)
https://georgehawke.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/resist-temptation.jpg?w=400&h=245
ximmy
27th March 2015, 12:01 PM
Now this is a prime example of looking for the good rather than the bad.
Better to be pissed off than pissed on.
For some people, it's better to be pissed off then pissed on...
Hitch
27th March 2015, 12:11 PM
It's best to remove anger from any decision making process. Anger is often caused by things we have no control over, and when you make decisions on emotions, rarely do you feel truly in control of your actions.
SWRichmond
27th March 2015, 12:21 PM
It's best to remove anger from any decision making process. Anger is often caused by things we have no control over, and when you make decisions on emotions, rarely do you feel truly in control of your actions.
This is true.
From the OP: " All they’re waiting for is a justification to herd the unsuspecting flock right into their tightfisted fascist paradigm as the police state takes shape around us."
The police state is taking shape around us anyway, and it gets stronger every day. But even then, I believe the ones who are scared shitless are the ones on top of this mess, because it IS a mess, and it IS gonna collapse, and we are very heavily armed. And I will point out once again that the mighty US military couldn't subdue and control an area the size of Texas, given ten years and $ Trillions of free money. How the fuck are they going to control CONUS? Answer: THEY AIN'T. And they know it. There will be no massed troop formations for them to use their bombs and planes on. It will be millions of individual acts of "fuck you very much." 4GW. And there's nothing they can do about it, and they know it. There are simply too many soft targets. They rely on our compliance, not the other way around. This is blatantly obvious, and articles like the OP are efforts to convince us that we cannot resist, should push come to shove. It's bullshit.
Jewboo
27th March 2015, 12:33 PM
I am pissed off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WINDtlPXmmE
Nobody gets mad anymore.
:)
woodman
27th March 2015, 04:55 PM
Ever tried an old game called TABLE UP?
Believe in dowsing to find water or anything else?
Do you believe people might have 'healing hands'?
Ever tried a OUIJA BOARD? [I surely don't recommend this one as it has the ability to attract things you would rather avoid]
I understand the meaning behind what you say but I simply think that we should clearly delineate the difference between magical thinking and reality. Unless one is telekinetic then thought will not influence matter. It cannot directly influence matter because it is merely the electro-chemical activity within our own mind. I know nothing of Ouija boards but I do know that dowsing works and is predicated upon simple electro-mechanical principles.
Our thinking should be as clean and kindly as we can make and keep it. This allows us to be better people and also puts us in the mindframe to accept and nourish positive things. I get what you say, do you get what I say? Thought, in and of itself, cannot change reality. It takes action to do that.
Another point worth making as long as we are on the subject and you brought it up is that mind control is a very difficult and dicey thing. Can a person really control the output of their mind? Try not to think a thought. Try as fervently as you can, not to think a particular thought. The harder you try, the more impossible it becomes and the thought takes on a certain virulence and a life of it's own. The more important it is to you to not think that particular thought, the more power that thought has. Talk to any survivor of a terrible experience that has shaken them to their foundation and you will find that worry is something that people often have no control over whatsoever. Worry can be said to be the onslaught of obtrusive thoughts that bring on anxiety. It is a feedback loop, you see.
The best we can do perhaps is to look within ourselves and find out what we consider admirable in a person and try to nurture that within ourselves.
As far as the article in the OP, I think he is partly right and partly wrong. The real question is "how do we avoid being played as they want us?" They have set us in a horrible position and I don't think anything but action will reverse it or mitigate it.
singular_me
27th March 2015, 05:22 PM
Exactly, the enslavement is mental above all... but translates into all areas of life... the core issue is still the mind.. Violence only addresses the surface, revolutions all failed because of that. And of course freezes creative solutions.
example: just imagine, 25% of people deciding not to go to work for a week, and that would reshuffle the ball game. But each person has to do it for him/herself and family... that cannot be a group think, like occupy wallstreet that got subverted right away... unity in thinking but completely decentralized in actions. That is the least violent way. Sure extreme violence is an option but unless there is a military coup in favor of the people, it aint going to work, all they want is to kill us all as fast as possible and they have tons of weapons... but what then even after a coup if minds do not change?
zengardner has good columns, IMHO
Thoughts are everything. You are responsible for your own thoughts. Follow your path and you will end up doing more damage to yourself than anyone else is able to. http://gold-silver.usiv/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=766304
palani
27th March 2015, 05:45 PM
I do know that dowsing works and is predicated upon simple electro-mechanical principles.
Not really. Dowsing rods can be as simple as coat hangers bent properly. They don't detect anything. It is your sense that controls your hands that make dowsing rods deflect.
I went to a medical device conference several months back. The gadget cost above 2 'g's. They described the thing as being attracted to magnetic areas on the body that were 'sticky'. At the end of the conference they mentioned that a plastic spoon could also detect these 'sticky' areas that were blocking chi energy flow. Whether I bought their gadget or borrowed a plastic spoon from Burger King ... they were telling me that it was MY field sensing the chi block area. Either gadget performed the function of a placebo.
Thought, in and of itself, cannot change reality. It takes action to do that. Nature has an abundance of everything and nature will fill your needs. But be aware that nature chooses her own methods to do this and you might want to be careful of what you ask for or the manner in which you ask. Thought is more powerful than you believe at this point in your life. Doubt me? Think about it for a while before you jump to a conclusion.
Jewboo
27th March 2015, 06:05 PM
Fairytale logic.
Power only recognizes force. You can disengage, speak "truth to power", and preach "non-violence" until you're blue in the face. But it just doesn't work. Pacifist are pussies. If they had it their way, we'd all be getting beaten 24/7 to show everyone how violent the state is, but god forbid if we ever have enough and decide to fight back...
http://cryptome.org/2014-info/gaza-bomb/pict16.jpg
http://www.firebrandcentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Gaza-death.jpg
http://static2.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/5300-4/photos/1406369821-palestinians-sift-through-rubble-of-buildings-in-shejaiy-gaza_5369624.jpg
http://www.algemeiner.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Gaza-sea-blocade-map-e1310389304625.png
Gaza is an open-air prison of 1.7 million people. Nobody gets in and nobody gets out without jew permission. The entire world looks the other way in indifference.
osoab
27th March 2015, 06:13 PM
The Law of Attraction. Good thoughts attract good things. Evil thoughts and anger attract more anger and evil things.
I hate most architects. No offense madfranks.
singular_me
27th March 2015, 06:20 PM
the Laws of Attraction are double edged sword... without a full awareness of the big picture, they bring about the opposite one tries to escape or wishes to resolve
Ares
28th March 2015, 07:56 AM
Gaza is an open-air prison of 1.7 million people. Nobody gets in and nobody gets out without jew permission. The entire world looks the other way in indifference.
Why are you being Anti-Semitic? /sarcasm
It's very obvious at this point why the world looks the other way. The Jews have conned a good portion of the world into buying their bullshit holocaust story.
woodman
28th March 2015, 08:14 AM
Not really. Dowsing rods can be as simple as coat hangers bent properly. They don't detect anything. It is your sense that controls your hands that make dowsing rods deflect.
I went to a medical device conference several months back. The gadget cost above 2 'g's. They described the thing as being attracted to magnetic areas on the body that were 'sticky'. At the end of the conference they mentioned that a plastic spoon could also detect these 'sticky' areas that were blocking chi energy flow. Whether I bought their gadget or borrowed a plastic spoon from Burger King ... they were telling me that it was MY field sensing the chi block area. Either gadget performed the function of a placebo.
Nature has an abundance of everything and nature will fill your needs. But be aware that nature chooses her own methods to do this and you might want to be careful of what you ask for or the manner in which you ask. Thought is more powerful than you believe at this point in your life. Doubt me? Think about it for a while before you jump to a conclusion.
I think you have a somewhat patronizing attitude here. You state the obvious when you say nature provides but the fact is, if one doesn't go out and get the food that nature provides then one will starve to death. As far as your magical thinking goes, I do not believe that thought can affect the laws of physics and change them. They are what they are and you can concentrate all you want and it won't make a damn difference. I have dowsed before and I know it works. It works because of physical principles not because of magical thinking.
As far as your original post in this thread goes, I guess your solution is that we all sit around and visualize world peace. It's not working. There is truth to the claim that resistance causes persistence but if we do not resist tyranny then it will come anyway and destroy us all the faster. As far as anger goes, it is a very useful tool. Anger should be used to coalesce and intensify a reaction to unwanted stimuli. Anger should be felt like any emotion and not bottled up. Anger can be counterproductive if it causes a knee-jerk reaction that is exactly what those in power want.
There is no way that we can simply think our way out of this mess without acting upon our physical environment. If you think this (I believe this is what you are saying) then you are deluded. If you think Ouija boards and dowsing rods operate by magic and not some physical principal, then you are deluded. I agree with you if you are pointing to the fact that our thoughts create our reality and influence the way we perceive. Our thoughts are powerful when we give them credence. In the end they are just thoughts. Ever meditate? Just let the thoughts flow like leaves on water, floating by. Observe but do not get caught up in the current. Thoughts are just thoughts.
Ponce
28th March 2015, 08:42 AM
My answer to the article, only.........and that's why I like to say, "do you get mad at a mosquito when it bites you? no, you simply squash it and keep on walking"...after all, a mosquito is simply acting as a mosquito................and that's why I no longer get mad at the Zionist wanabee Jews for what they are doing to the world, we should simply eliminate them and that's it.
V
Hitch
28th March 2015, 09:40 AM
My answer to the article, only.........and that's why I like to say, "do you get mad at a mosquito when it bites you? no, you simply squash it and keep on walking"...after all, a mosquito is simply acting as a mosquito................and that's why I no longer get mad at the Zionist wanabee Jews for what they are doing to the world, we should simply eliminate them and that's it.
V
By eliminating them really is not giving them power over us. I like that analogy, Ponce.
People get angry when they feel they have lost power and control. Seen that many times on police dept. People voice brutality, their handcuffs are too tight (I laugh at that one because you can set handcuffs to lock so their are loose on the wrist), put on a big show. I've had 300 lb guys threatening to kill me in front of their buddies, only to break down crying once in back of the patrol car.
But they teach police to not show anger in these situations, nor fear. Both cloud judgement and interpretation of the situation, which keeps people from acting rationally.
Think of all the people that are angry at banks these days. If each one of them bought 1 oz of physical gold and maybe 10 oz of silver, the whole banking system would probably collapse.
People get angry, vent that anger, then do nothing. It's an emotional roller coaster. Anger goes up, person feels invincible, then crash anger leads to a feeling of powerlessness, and then settles on complacency/acceptance.
palani
28th March 2015, 12:13 PM
I think you have a somewhat patronizing attitude here.
I suppose it is patronizing to instruct a child not to put a hand on a hot stove.
I have dowsed before and I know it works. It works because of physical principles not because of magical thinking. Dowsing works because you are concentrating on one thing and that is the instruction you send to your subconscious. It is the subconscious that does the manipulating.
As far as your original post in this thread goes, I guess your solution is that we all sit around and visualize world peace. It's not working. There is truth to the claim that resistance causes persistence but if we do not resist tyranny then it will come anyway and destroy us all the faster. As far as anger goes, it is a very useful tool. Anger should be used to coalesce and intensify a reaction to unwanted stimuli. Anger should be felt like any emotion and not bottled up. Anger can be counterproductive if it causes a knee-jerk reaction that is exactly what those in power want.
As in any martial art the energy you bring to a battle will be used against you. The solution is not to bring any energy and use your enemies energy to destroy him. Anger is not productive. As to sitting around visualizing world peace if it makes YOU peaceful then the process works.
There is no way that we can simply think our way out of this mess without acting upon our physical environment. If you think this (I believe this is what you are saying) then you are deluded. If you think Ouija boards and dowsing rods operate by magic and not some physical principal, then you are deluded. I agree with you if you are pointing to the fact that our thoughts create our reality and influence the way we perceive. Our thoughts are powerful when we give them credence. In the end they are just thoughts. Ever meditate? Just let the thoughts flow like leaves on water, floating by. Observe but do not get caught up in the current. Thoughts are just thoughts.
Thoughts that are evil produce evil results. Thoughts that are good produce good results. Think of them as seeds. You get what you sow and everything that happens to you is your own responsibility and nobody elses. You appear to want to place responsibility on everyone else when you are responsible yourself for everything you see, hear and say. Just an observation. I don't expect you are alone in this line of reasoning but there are ways to gain some enlightenment and live a happier life.
singular_me
28th March 2015, 12:45 PM
true, we are in this impasse because of a generational lack of responsibility... I only heard about all this 15 years ago... the average joe has always prefers enslavement over freedom. That is how governments work by offering solutions to laziness in thinking, yeah thoughts are for sure very powerful.
midnight rambler
28th March 2015, 01:43 PM
It's very obvious at this point why the world looks the other way. The Jews have conned a good portion of the world into buying their bullshit holocaust story.
IMO it's* BY FAR the biggest con in the entire history of the world.
*not just the holohoax but the complete line of shit that da joos are ***God's CHOSEN people***
midnight rambler
28th March 2015, 01:45 PM
I do not believe that thought can affect the laws of physics and change them.
What do you think prayer is??
"Pray like it's all up to God; work like it's all up to you." --St. Augustine
woodman
28th March 2015, 06:33 PM
I suppose it is patronizing to instruct a child not to put a hand on a hot stove.
Dowsing works because you are concentrating on one thing and that is the instruction you send to your subconscious. It is the subconscious that does the manipulating.
you are being silly. Weather or not your subconscious is directing the dowsing rod has no bearing upon the fact that you are acting with your muscles. It is not the mind that moves the dowsing rod and not the muscles either. I have dowsed and I can tell you that the rod moves itself because of electrical principles. No magic and no subconscious mind trick.
As in any martial art the energy you bring to a battle will be used against you. The solution is not to bring any energy and use your enemies energy to destroy him. Anger is not productive. As to sitting around visualizing world peace if it makes YOU peaceful then the process works..
I disagree that anger is not productive. It can be either productive or hurt the one who is angry. It depends whether it is channeled or not. Anger can help you achieve a goal if used with discretion. Now if you choose to be peaceful while armed men are pulling down and killing your fellow humans then you are not only a coward but also a fool because your time is coming soon.
You get what you sow and everything that happens to you is your own responsibility and nobody elses. You appear to want to place responsibility on everyone else when you are responsible yourself for everything you see, hear and say.
You also reap what you sow. You believe you are above anyone else? If you do nothing while your neighbors are being murdered then you are as bad as the murderer. You say that I want to place responsibility on everyone else for everything I see, hear and say? I place responsibility on those who act with evil intent. You have some real New Age bullshit going on there. So according to you if we simply pretend these things are not happening then they will go away. yeah Right.
woodman
28th March 2015, 06:38 PM
What do you think prayer is??
"Pray like it's all up to God; work like it's all up to you." --St. Augustine
If prayer works so great midnight then maybe you can pray your way out of any situation. How has it worked for you. Well hell, we don't need dogs or guns, we can just pray our way out of trouble.
God helps those who help themselves. If you are not willing to help yourself or your neighbors then you deserve whatever you get.
palani
28th March 2015, 07:27 PM
I have dowsed and I can tell you that the rod moves itself because of electrical principles. No magic and no subconscious mind trick. There are no electrical principles that will direct the motion of two rods. Electrical field would have to be extremely large ... reference Millikan's oil drop experiment. Magnetic principles don't work because I doubt if you were using rods made of ferrous material. I am afraid when it comes to looking for some energy source that is capable of doing the job thought is the only one you can rely upon.
A doctor told me if I happened to come across a heart attack victim that my hands, one on his chest and the other on his back, are the best tools to save the man. A special magic occurs when a man and a woman join hands when dancing. A different kind of magic occurs when you shake hands when meeting someone. There is a reason for these social customs that does not have to do with simple greetings.
I disagree that anger is not productive. It can be either productive or hurt the one who is angry. It depends whether it is channeled or not. Anger can help you achieve a goal if used with discretion. Now if you choose to be peaceful while armed men are pulling down and killing your fellow humans then you are not only a coward but also a fool because your time is coming soon. Tell me. Do you THINK about killing these people or do you just mindlessly DO it?
You also reap what you sow. You believe you are above anyone else? If you do nothing while your neighbors are being murdered then you are as bad as the murderer. You say that I want to place responsibility on everyone else for everything I see, hear and say? I place responsibility on those who act with evil intent. You have some real New Age bullshit going on there. So according to you if we simply pretend these things are not happening then they will go away. yeah Right.
I try not to blame victims but they do tend to reap what they sow. And I try not to pretend anything. My feet are firmly rooted in reality and I act according to laws that come to us from time immemorial.
Cebu_4_2
28th March 2015, 07:34 PM
If prayer works so great midnight then maybe you can pray your way out of any situation. How has it worked for you. Well hell, we don't need dogs or guns, we can just pray our way out of trouble.
God helps those who help themselves. If you are not willing to help yourself or your neighbors then you deserve whatever you get.
Wood, I honestly do not want to go here but some of the posts are correct.
If all you think about is how fucked things are then they will manifest on you.
If you work is going well you think about this and it will go well. even though you don't really think about it.
If you think "I need to reduce income cause my 1st ex is gonna get paid too much" and biz goes down you met your first fail.
That is exactly what I did and it worked.
Now 20 years later I am looking to reverse it and any help much appreciated.
Thought is much more than just a thought of firing between brain cells. It manifests itself.
woodman
28th March 2015, 07:40 PM
Tell me. Do you THINK about killing these people or do you just mindlessly DO it?
I do not think about killing people. Why would you say this? Is it a case of transference? Do you think about killing people and therefore assume that I do also? I have never killed anyone and I sincerely intend to make it through this life without taking the life of another. I have never advocated killing anyone. Why would you say such a thing. You are a sick fuck.
woodman
28th March 2015, 07:42 PM
Wood, I honestly do not want to go here but some of the posts are correct.
If all you think about is how fucked things are then they will manifest on you.
If you work is going well you think about this and it will go well. even though you don't really think about it.
If you think "I need to reduce income cause my 1st ex is gonna get paid too much" and biz goes down you met your first fail.
That is exactly what I did and it worked.
Now 20 years later I am looking to reverse it and any help much appreciated.
Thought is much more than just a thought of firing between brain cells. It manifests itself.
I have never argued against this principle Cebu. What I find strange is that certain posters somehow infer that I have.
palani
28th March 2015, 07:59 PM
I do not think about killing people. Why would you say this? The major premise of your argument seems to be that you are going to stop people from killing you. Are you going to do that by offering them candy?
You are a sick fuck.
I can only return to you the thoughts you direct to me. Back at you.
And that is why you should be concerned ... your mind isn't right.
woodman
28th March 2015, 08:09 PM
The major premise of your argument seems to be that you are going to stop people from killing you. Are you going to do that by offering them candy?
I can only return to you the thoughts you direct to me. Back at you.
And that is why you should be concerned ... your mind isn't right.
You are dishonest at best. At this point we are reduced to name calling so I will merely point to the fact that you dishonestly claimed that I am thinking about murdering people and I have no idea where this comes from. I must assume that you are in a state of transference and you ascribe to me, that which you detest in yourself. I am a peaceful man. I will fight back however, if attacked. You and your ilk somehow think that by ignoring violence it will go away. The world has never worked this way.
There is a reason for anger and anger can certainly be a righteous reaction to bad acts by others. I would say that if you are not angry, then you are not a healthy person at all. If you see the horrors being committed upon innocents in this world and it does not provoke a response of righteous anger in you, then you are a very sick man indeed.
Jewboo
28th March 2015, 09:12 PM
And that is why you should be concerned ... your mind isn't right.
http://bears-pit.com/wp-content/themes/folder/php/timthumb.php?src=http://bears-pit.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/funny-hot-girl-fight-with-cow-full-hd.jpg&w=940
Woodman is making perfect sense in this thread. I agree with him so far. Anger is the natural response to taunts, insults, and provocations.
:rolleyes:
palani
29th March 2015, 06:37 AM
you dishonestly claimed that I am thinking about murdering people and I have no idea where this comes from. ... you are a very sick man indeed.
1. You are THINKING of protecting yourself from some imagined violence.
2. That imagined violence comes from PEOPLE.
3. You ARE NOT intending to offer these people candy to induce them to stop their violence.
4. I would conclude that your thinking includes killing these imagined people offering you imagined violence.
5. The act of THINKING of something tends to materialize that thing.
6. AND YOU CALL ME SICK?
Look ... your anger at me is proof that your mind is subject to turmoil. If you cannot accept a simple idea expressed in words without a raised blood pressure then how 'ya gunna handle a real life crisis?
palani
29th March 2015, 06:39 AM
Anger is the natural response to taunts, insults, and provocations.[/SIZE]
Since when did nature become high on your list of authorities?
Jewboo
29th March 2015, 08:29 AM
If you cannot accept a simple idea expressed in words without a raised blood pressure then how 'ya gunna handle a real life crisis?
http://www.personal.psu.edu/bfr3/blogs/asp/fight%20or%20flight.png
Whenever Palani gets attacked and his system is naturally flooded with adrenaline he starts typing legalese to sue the threat into submission...lol.
:D
woodman
29th March 2015, 08:34 AM
1. You are THINKING of protecting yourself from some imagined violence.
2. That imagined violence comes from PEOPLE.
3. You ARE NOT intending to offer these people candy to induce them to stop their violence.
4. I would conclude that your thinking includes killing these imagined people offering you imagined violence.
5. The act of THINKING of something tends to materialize that thing.
6. AND YOU CALL ME SICK?
Look ... your anger at me is proof that your mind is subject to turmoil. If you cannot accept a simple idea expressed in words without a raised blood pressure then how 'ya gunna handle a real life crisis?
You are just a mosquito who came looking for blood. I have squashed you. Get over it.
palani
29th March 2015, 08:49 AM
http://www.personal.psu.edu/bfr3/blogs/asp/fight%20or%20flight.png
Whenever Palani gets attacked and his system is naturally flooded with adrenaline he starts typing legalese to sue the threat into submission...lol.
I can point out where I have been INSULTED but this reflects poorly upon the intelligence of perpetrator.
palani
29th March 2015, 08:50 AM
You are just a mosquito who came looking for blood. I have squashed you. Get over it.
You appear to be bound and determined to kill something aren't you. Hope that mindset works out well for you but I don't expect it to.
woodman
29th March 2015, 08:59 AM
You appear to be bound and determined to kill something aren't you. Hope that mindset works out well for you but I don't expect it to.
Again, it is called projection. You ascribe to me, that which you dislike in yourself. You are angry right now. Calm down, take a deep breath and just accept that you came looking for trouble and found it.
You seem to be ill and believe that someone is out to murder you. I assure you I am peaceful but I will spank you like a willful child if you persist.
palani
29th March 2015, 09:17 AM
Again, it is called transference. You ascribe to me, that which you dislike in yourself. You are angry right now. Calm down, take a deep breath and just accept that you came looking for trouble and found it.
Words trouble me little. You don't recognize that you are classifying yourself in the set labeled TROUBLE? You are in trouble but appear not to recognize the source.
You seem to be ill and believe that someone is out to murder you. I assure you I am peaceful but I will spank you like a willful child if you persist. In your previous post I was a mosquito and you were bound and determined to squash me. Are these the words of a peaceful sentient being?
woodman
29th March 2015, 10:17 AM
Words trouble me little. You don't recognize that you are classifying yourself in the set labeled TROUBLE? You are in trouble but appear not to recognize the source.
In your previous post I was a mosquito and you were bound and determined to squash me. Are these the words of a peaceful sentient being?
You have never slapped a mosquito? Lol. I guess you are the Buddha incarnate, huh? Like I said, get over it.
palani
29th March 2015, 10:28 AM
You have never slapped a mosquito?
I never THREATENED to slap him before he met his fate. Do you see the difference?
If his fate was to get slapped then I am the instrument of the UNIVERSE to see that this happens.
I don't try to bore him with a lot of rhetoric.
woodman
29th March 2015, 10:43 AM
I never THREATENED to slap him before he met his fate. Do you see the difference?
If his fate was to get slapped then I am the instrument of the UNIVERSE to see that this happens.
I don't try to bore him with a lot of rhetoric.
You aren't making any sense at all. Like I said, get over it.
palani
29th March 2015, 10:48 AM
Like I said
If you SAID anything what makes you believe I HEARD you?
You have chosen words as your weapon. Are you now switching to speech in the middle of the controversy?
singular_me
29th March 2015, 11:46 AM
Woodman, you should research when you get chance., because the NWO really knows about the issue. This is a perception-mind matter. the Mind will always trump Materialism, come first, and command it. Thats the magic so to speak.
No magic and no subconscious mind trick..
The Physics Of Consciousness
Yes, quantum physics is related to consciousness. The brain is a physical organism that transmits electrochemical signals. These are explained by biochemistry and, ultimately, are related to the fundamental electromagnetic behaviors of molecules and atoms, which are dictated by the laws of quantum physics. In the same way that every physical system is governed by quantum physical laws, the brain is certainly governed by them as well and consciousness - which is clearly in some way related to the functioning of the brain - must therefore be related to the quantum physical processes going on within the brain.
http://physics.about.com/od/QuantumConsciousness/f/IsConsciousnessQuantum.htm
more
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mind
http://cs.uwlax.edu/~mallen/docs/rev_walker01.pdf
Quantum Approaches to Consciousness
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/qt-consciousness/
The Physics of Spirit
http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-Physics-of-Spirit-by-Derryl-Hermanutz-Consciousness_Mind-Body-Heart-Spirit_Neuroscience_Spirituality-141127-239.html
Quantum Physics in Consciousness Studies
http://quantum-mind.co.uk/quantum-physics-in-consciousness-studies-book/
Humanity needs to move toward the marriage of science and spirit... otherwise we are toast.
Jewboo
29th March 2015, 01:21 PM
Woodman, you should research when you get chance...
Skip her new-age mumbo-jumbo links and instead go HERE (http://redefininggod.com/).
:)
palani
29th March 2015, 01:25 PM
Woodman, you should research when you get chance
Never attempt enlightenment of a man who has had meridian surgery to remove a chi blocking element.
Hitch
29th March 2015, 01:38 PM
Wood, I honestly do not want to go here but some of the posts are correct.
If all you think about is how fucked things are then they will manifest on you.
If you work is going well you think about this and it will go well. even though you don't really think about it.
If you think "I need to reduce income cause my 1st ex is gonna get paid too much" and biz goes down you met your first fail.
That is exactly what I did and it worked.
Now 20 years later I am looking to reverse it and any help much appreciated.
Thought is much more than just a thought of firing between brain cells. It manifests itself.
This is an excellent, and profound, post and I want to bump it up, and add a few thoughts to it.
One thing we all share in common on this forum, is focusing on the negative things that are happening, how they impact us now, and in the future....and this is why we prep. We watch trends from the past, and follow them to predict the future. It's human nature that anger and negativity be a part of this. I believe this can manifest, like Cebu is saying, in ways probably we couldn't even explain.
To counter this, if you find yourself dwelling on the negative. Stop and look at where exactly you are, right now, in the present time. Forget the past, it doesn't matter. Be honest and truthful with yourself. I am here, and THIS is where I want to go in the future. This establishes focus and control over yourself. By doing this, any anger or negativity, being that they manifest on things beyond our control, vanish. Be thankful for where you are in life right now, then grow for the future.
singular_me
29th March 2015, 09:08 PM
right, now even science is becoming new age.... ;D;D;D
the battle between religion and science is over, book, it is the beginning of the end
Bruce Lipton about Mind and Genes, newton and Quantum Physics and more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWT8PE-xgH4
bio of bruce lipton
October 21, 1944 in Mt. Kisco, New York
Formal Education
1962-1966 B.A., Biology major, C.W. Post College of Long Island University, Brookville, NY
1966-1971 Ph.D. in Developmental Cell Biology, University of Virginia, Charlottesville, VA. Thesis Title: Myogenesis in Cell Culture: An ultrastructural study. Mentor: Dr. I.R. Konigsberg.
1966 (Summer) Field work at Mt. Lake Biological Station, University of Virginia, Mt. Lake, VA. Studies on Animal Behavior and Population Genetics.
1976-1979 Gross Anatomy for Nurses (University of Wisconsin), participant in team
1991-1992 Medical Embryology (St. George’s University School of Medicine)
1991 Physiology 472 Graduate Level Course (Penn State University)
1987 Human Physiology-Biology 41 (Penn State University).
1988 Physiology 472 Graduate Level Course (Penn State University)
1994-1997 The Biology of Consciousness (an elective course, JFK Univ.)
1995-2000 Fractal Biology (CEU program for Life Chiropractic College West)
2001-Present Biology of Complementary Medicine (US and Canadian workshops for health professionals, sponsored by Spirit 2000)
2006-Present Immunology (New Zealand College of Chiropractic, Auckland)
more
https://www.brucelipton.com/curriculum-vitae
Skip her new-age mumbo-jumbo links and instead go HERE (http://redefininggod.com/).
:)
Jewboo
29th March 2015, 09:40 PM
right, now even science is becoming new age...
http://storage.cloversites.com/huntingtonbeachchurchofreligiousscience/site_images/page47_picture0_1348971790.jpg
:D
BrewTech
29th March 2015, 09:49 PM
http://storage.cloversites.com/huntingtonbeachchurchofreligiousscience/site_images/page47_picture0_1348971790.jpg
:D
Why ya gotta bash on HB man? Oh wait, you've likely never been there, or done that, like most of your cute picture posts.
singular_me
29th March 2015, 09:54 PM
Your picture translates what you do not understand in the bible... the church is within.
http://storage.cloversites.com/huntingtonbeachchurchofreligiousscience/site_images/page47_picture0_1348971790.jpg
:D
Jewboo
29th March 2015, 10:48 PM
...you do not understand...
http://gold-silver.us/forum/image.php?u=3317&dateline=1427512775
:) why are you now working in a gas station Oh Wise One?
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