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EE_
30th March 2015, 05:58 AM
Why there will be lines for the $10,000 gold Apple Watch
by Philip Elmer-DeWitt @philiped MARCH 28, 2015, 9:02 AM EDT

The price differential between Beijing and New York is more than double the cost of a round-trip ticket.

Remember the customers carrying bundles of cash who queued up last September to buy as many iPhones as Apple would sell them?

It could happen again.

“We saw this with the iPhone,” said Asymco’s Horace Dediu in a podcast recorded Thursday. “We’ll see it in spades with the gold Apple Watch.”

Most analysts expect demand will be strongest for Apple’s aluminum and steel watches, which start at $349 and $549, respectively. Dediu believes Wall Street may be underestimating the intangible appeal of a $10,000 gold watch. Especially one given as a gift. Especially in China, with its rich tradition of over-the-top gift giving.

The gold watch has something else going for it. Unlike the value of a Rolex, say, which can range from a few thousand dollars to tens of thousands, the price of the Apple Watch in each of its global markets is fixed; it’s listed on the website.

“It’s like currency,” says Dediu. Factor in local taxes, and you can calculate with some precision what he calls the “global arbitrage opportunities.”

For example, the entry level gold watch — 38mm 18-Karat Rose Gold with a white sport band — retails in the U.S. for $10.000. The same watch is listed on Apple’s Chinese website for RMB 74,800 ($12,045). Beijing imposes a 17% value added tax. Hong Kong does not.

“If someone smuggles one of these into China,” says Dediu, “they’ll pay for their flight ticket and then some.”

He reports that in Boston there were still queues for the iPhone 6 Plus in January, almost five months after it launched. “They’re mostly Chinese,” he says. “They’re doing it as a business.”

It can be a rough business, as a documentary film shot outside Apple Stores in New York City last September demonstrated. It might be even rougher in April, when buyers could be carrying bundles of cash in units of $10,000.

That’s cash that will go almost directly to Apple’s bottom line. Dediu estimates that the margin on a $10,000 gold watch could be as high as 90%.

“I wouldn’t be surprised if in the first few months the demand for gold is far, far higher than we imagined,” he says. “They’ll just be out of stock, permanently.”

ON THE OTHER HAND: 9to5Mac’s Mark Gurman, with good sources in Apple retail, says there will be no lines for the gold Watch.

No Waiting In Line: Unlike stainless steel Apple Watch and Apple Watch Sport customers, those seeking to buy the Apple Watch Edition will not have to wait in a line. Sources say that potential Edition buyers will have priority access to assistance, effectively skipping the line of other waiting customers. Experts will be able to help a couple of customers try-on Watches simultaneously, unlike standard employees who will simultaneously help as many stainless steel and Sport customers as necessary.
http://fortune.com/2015/03/28/why-there-will-be-lines-for-the-10000-gold-apple-watch/

Hitch
30th March 2015, 08:04 AM
“I wouldn’t be surprised if in the first few months the demand for gold is far, far higher than we imagined,” he says. “They’ll just be out of stock, permanently.”

Wonder if this will actually affect the spot price of gold. Furthermore, if the gold watch takes off, when would be the next gold iphone. Gold android watch, etc. If the geeks make this gold watch popular, there could possibly be a huge demand on the physical gold market. Thoughts?

madfranks
30th March 2015, 08:50 AM
Wonder if this will actually affect the spot price of gold. Furthermore, if the gold watch takes off, when would be the next gold iphone. Gold android watch, etc. If the geeks make this gold watch popular, there could possibly be a huge demand on the physical gold market. Thoughts?

No, it will have absolutely no affect on gold spot. The spot price is set by the big paper gold pushers, not a company like Apple.

And I don't think there will be lines for a $10,000 apple watch. There's just not enough people who can afford such a thing for it to have mass market appeal.

EE_
30th March 2015, 10:21 AM
No, it will have absolutely no affect on gold spot. The spot price is set by the big paper gold pushers, not a company like Apple.

And I don't think there will be lines for a $10,000 apple watch. There's just not enough people who can afford such a thing for it to have mass market appeal.

1,826 billionaires in the world
16,000,000 millionaires in the world
How many have a net worth below, close to a million?

singular_me
30th March 2015, 11:40 AM
"we" need more shareholders to invest in the illusion of wealth...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/09/gold-apple-watch-price_n_6830282.html

Yes, that's extremely expensive for something that could be obsolete in the next year, but it's not absurd in the world of luxury watches. It's hard to find even a pre-owned Rolex for less than $5,000. But while a traditional watch becomes an heirloom, an expensive piece of technology just loses value over time. In 5 years, people might be donating their old Apple Watches the way we donate our old iPhones.

madfranks
30th March 2015, 11:54 AM
1,826 billionaires in the world
16,000,000 millionaires in the world
How many have a net worth below, close to a million?

Yeah, the 1%. You need to sell to more than the 1% to create a mass-market product.