power surge turns smart meters into bombs.

[ximmy]

http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2015/03/30/stockton-smart-meters-explode-after-truck-causes-power-surge/

See video.

STOCKTON (CBS13) — A powerhttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/icon1.png (http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2015/03/30/stockton-smart-meters-explode-after-truck-causes-power-surge/#) surge left thousands without power in Stockton on Monday after smart meters on their homes exploded.
The explosions started at around 8:30 a.m. after a truck crashed into a utility pole, causing a surge.
When the customers in more than 5,000 homes get their power back on will depend on how badly damaged their meters are.
Neighbors in the South Stockton area described it as a large pop, a bomb going off, and strong enough to shake a house.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpoJ-kP27aI

[Cebu_4_2]

Looks like there will be a boom in electrical appliance sales.

[mick silver]

sue the owner of the meters
I know I don't own the one here ... some times you have to fight fire with fire

[Serpo]

so the meters are not that smart after all , in fact they sound extremely dumb

[Neuro]

This would be likely to happen whenever lightning strikes the grid too.

Another thing that struck me in the video, is how helpless people become without the electricity. The woman who said I have an infant I don't know what to do without electricity, the man stating I Have 4 children who wants to take showers, I don't know what to do...

[Serpo]

At the moment I have no electricity , but I know what to do...............

[Dogman]

This would be likely to happen whenever lightning strikes the grid too.

Another thing that struck me in the video, is how helpless people become without the electricity. The woman who said I have an infant I don't know what to do without electricity, the man stating I Have 4 children who wants to take showers, I don't know what to do...

There is very few houses and local grids that can survive a direct lighting bolt. On a local grid the line fuses will blow for sure and even pole transformers can be destroyed. At one time I used to try and fix or declare local ham operators gear beyond repair so they can get their fried gear replaced by their home insurance.

I have seen wires blown out of walls, meters blown off houses, copper piping blown out of walls, base boards blown off walls and one case the wiring in the house totally fried and had to be replaced along with most all the electronics and appliances, have seen some truly strange stuff lighting strikes can do. Hell even a very close strike can mess up old tv picture tubes by the emp from the strike and the built in degausseer can not fix the problem with scrambles colors.

Lighting hits = Nasty and unpredictable !

Nothing at a residential level can stop and protect a direct or near direct lighting strike,

They put in a smart meter here last year and I knew the lineman that did the work, he let me look at one and it was interesting to see, I also have a receiver and spectrum analyzer that I can see and hear the radio signal they make and the power levels they use, much much to do about nothing, I was worried before from reading all the story's about them but not after I took a close look at one.

The new meters can not handle surges or spikes as well as the old ones can the MOV's they use for protection can blow with a bang! (MOV = Metal oxide varistor)

[ximmy]

The situation with smart meter fires is worse than we thought — and now we know why. This new investigative video tells all.

In studyingand doing presentations and making videos on ‘smart’ meters for nearly 5 years now, personally I had my doubts I would learn anything new when I first connected with a utility worker whistleblower through Take Back Your Power (http://takebackyourpower.net/).

I was completely wrong and they are right. It is worse than I thought — than we all thought. A major and critical error has been brought forth.
This new video (below) explains in simple terms these new revelations from the insiders, as well as new court documentation and other insights.
The whistleblowers (wishing to remain anonymous) who contacted us have serviced and repaired over 200,000 meters in the field. They have been warning their supervisors about ‘smart’ meter problems for nearly a decade now. They have had enough of the lies and want you to know what they know.
On top of the explosive new details, the meters have at least four major sources of arcing. That’s right — FOUR.
Arcing in ‘smart’ meters causes extreme heat, which causes fires. As we now see, it is beyond any shadow of a doubt that meter manufacturers know, utilities know, and regulators know. They have known the whole time, but they didn’t want to tell you.
In this investigation the focus on two of the worst offenders, BC Hydro and PG&E. However, as this is a systemic problem regardless of meter type, we feature fire incidents from Texas, Ontario, Saskatchewan, Pennsylvania, Illinois and more.

Of note, for those that have been following the BC Freedom process (http://bc-freedom.com/) to keep your safe analog meter, you can see how BC Hydro, the BCUC, and government (including Measurement Canada) are now all implicated in collusion to attempt to remove your choice to keep your analog meter. If you have held out this long, regardless of where you are, you are going to be glad you did — and you are going to have all the ammo you need to break the chain of deceit that permeates these groups.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Am2_-qHW-T0

[skid]

So far I have kept my analog meter at an extra charge of $30/month for manually reading it which is bull. however when I hook up my hydro generator I need a smart meter for net metering so I won't have a choice but to accept the smart meter.

Regarding lightning strikes and residential protection, I have a "Accuvar surge suppression system" by Liebert which is supposed to protect from lightning strikes. It is connected to a 30A 240V 2 pole breaker in my service entrance box.

[ximmy]

So far I have kept my analog meter at an extra charge of $30/month for manually reading it which is bull. however when I hook up my hydro generator I need a smart meter for net metering so I won't have a choice but to accept the smart meter.

Regarding lightning strikes and residential protection, I have a "Accuvar surge suppression system" by Liebert which is supposed to protect from lightning strikes. It is connected to a 30A 240V 2 pole breaker in my service entrance box.

$30.00 dang... I'm pretty sure I pay $10.00 extra a mo. for analog. I hope someday they will have to refund that money.

[palani]

The new meters can not handle surges or spikes as well as the old ones can the MOV's they use for protection can blow with a bang! (MOV = Metal oxide varistor)

MOVs are generally bad news. When they blow up they add a lot of ionized air ... read that as conductive air. The line to line arc produced is much more impressive with them than without them.

[Glass]

never heard the term MOV before. now twice in the same day. Other topic was powerboard safety features and types of surge protection.

So MOV's are not any good in surge protection? Is that correct?

[palani]

So MOV's are not any good in surge protection? Is that correct?

An MOV will absorb just so much energy (overvoltage) before it explodes. Practically useless in outlet strips and a disaster when on any utility lines. For home use an active tracking filter installed near the incoming power box is much better ... and much more expensive.

[Horn]

Wouldn't a suppressor before the MOV fix things, o

oh that's right that'd be their cost not yours.

[skid]

In my industry MOV is motor operated valve.

If interested this is my surge protector - http://www.emersonnetworkpower.com/en-EMEA/Products/SurgeProtection/Documents/103507BrochureLiebertTVSS_EN.pdf

[Glass]

I was reading some stuff on traveling tips and someone suggested you pack a power board from home and an adapter for the destination country. So you have 4+ regular (for you) sockets for all your stuff plugged into an adapter for the local supply. I've traveled a fair bit and this simple idea seems to have eluded me.

Then the discussion got into surge protection, because some places have very poor wiring standards, earth not being earth or even being live. The light and cheap power boards usually come with an inline fuse. Someone suggests a board with MOV would be better. But the advice is 5 or 6 years old.

[Twisted Titan]

If you ask theaverage person which would you rather lose water or electricity

10 out of 10 will say water.

Even with no knowlege you average person could figure out some way to get clean drinkable water in short order and this is before the first rain falls


Take away eletricity you are reduced to living in the stone age.

Just the thought of being cut off from the grid is enough to gain the willllfull ssubmission of the sheep.


Its it this primal fear that has mme scraping my last few dollars in smalll quality solar units

When the world goes dark my. Small corner will have light.

[Twisted Titan]

Quantum Harvest model 175

I have 2 units

The unit is expenisive but worth every dam zinc penny 420.FRN

i have called the owner several times while i was working through my solar learning curve and the customer care service was top notch



I give it my highest recomend

[Twisted Titan]

http://www.quantumharvest.net/model-175-ultra-compact-solar-generator/

[skid]

My water wheel

[palani]

I was reading some stuff on traveling tips and someone suggested you pack a power board from home and an adapter for the destination country.

http://www.hubbell-wiring.com/press/pdfs/Hub9818.pdf

In the table pay attention to those outlet strips that just have surge suppression (MOV) and those with sine wave tracking (aka Filters). The * indicates those with MOVs only. When traveling you still need to worry whether the ground connection has been properly wired.

For the home a TVSS is preferred ... and that installed near the service entrance ... keeping all wiring leads as short as possible.

[Dogman]

http://www.hubbell-wiring.com/press/pdfs/Hub9818.pdf

In the table pay attention to those outlet strips that just have surge suppression (MOV) and those with sine wave tracking (aka Filters). The * indicates those with MOVs only. When traveling you still need to worry whether the ground connection has been properly wired.

For the home a TVSS is preferred ... and that installed near the service entrance ... keeping all wiring leads as short as possible.

Plus the voltage and Hertz (cps) because not everything uses a universal type power supply. (120-220v 50-60 cycle or so input) -----Yet!

[Neuro]

My water wheel
How much does it generate?

[skid]

The generator is 7.5 kw. I'm just finishing fabrication of the cantilever to place it into the flowing river. I started a thread on it here:

http://www.fieldlines.com/index.php/topic,148325.0.html

[Dogman]

The generator is 7.5 kw. I'm just finishing fabrication of the cantilever to place it into the flowing river. I started a thread on it here:

http://www.fieldlines.com/index.php/topic,148325.0.html

Very very nice !

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[Neuro]

The generator is 7.5 kw. I'm just finishing fabrication of the cantilever to place it into the flowing river. I started a thread on it here:

http://www.fieldlines.com/index.php/topic,148325.0.html
Wow very impressive engineering project, you have undertaken. I wouldn't be able to do something like that, myself in 50 years. Once upon a time I was a production planner in an ABB company, at the division making industrial electric connectors. Kudos!

[skid]

Wow very impressive engineering project, you have undertaken. I wouldn't be able to do something like that, myself in 50 years. Once upon a time I was a production planner in an ABB company, at the division making industrial electric connectors. Kudos!

I worked with Swedish Asea briefly before they merged with Swiss Brown Boveri. I installed 2 - 25000 HP electric motors on a pipeline gas compressor more than 30 years ago....

[Neuro]

I worked with Swedish Asea briefly before they merged with Swiss Brown Boveri. I installed 2 - 25000 HP electric motors on a pipeline gas compressor more than 30 years ago....
As I recall it Asea merged with Brown Boveri in Switzerland around 1985. The company I worked for in 1990-1 belonged to the Swedish Asea part. It's name is Cewe, and you have probably seen it's name on industrial plugs and connectors, and switches...