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cheka.
2nd April 2015, 03:01 PM
the horror includes both reading AND thinking unapproved

how did police state get this private info? any bets on the girls having links to the nyc.dc police state?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/04/02/usa-security-new-york-idUSL2N0WZ1FP20150402

(Reuters) - Two New York City women have been arrested in an alleged conspiracy to build a bomb and wage a "terrorist attack" in the United States, according to a federal criminal complaint made public on Thursday.

Noelle Velentzas, 28, and Asia Siddiqui, 31, devised a plot to target police, government or military targets based on their "violent jihadist beliefs," according to the complaint filed in U.S. District Court in Brooklyn.

The two women, who were roommates in the city borough of Queens, researched how to build an explosive device and plotted to attack a military base or police funeral, it stated.

Charged with conspiracy to use weapons of mass destruction against persons or property in the United States, they were slated to appear before U.S. Magistrate Judge Viktor Pohorelsky on Thursday afternoon.

If convicted, they face the possibility of life in prison.

Velentzas praised al Qaeda's Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the United States, considered former al Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden a hero and said she and Siddiqui were "citizens of the Islamic State," the complaint said.

The women also voiced support for beheadings of Western journalists and others by Islamic State, the militant group that controls territory in Syria and Iraq, the complaint said.

Since last summer, they read textbooks on electricity, watched online videos about soldering and read "The Anarchist Cookbook," a book with instructions on building homemade explosives, it said.

They looked for supplies such as wiring and chemicals in a pharmacy and a Home Depot store, it said.

"We are committed to doing everything in our ability to detect, disrupt and deter attacks by homegrown violent extremists," Brooklyn U.S. Attorney Loretta Lynch, who is President Barack Obama's nominee for U.S. attorney general, said in a statement.

"We remain firm in our resolve to hold accountable anyone who would seek to terrorize the American people," she said.

Also on Thursday, Muhanad Mahmoud Al Farekh, a U.S. citizen who trained with al Qaeda in Pakistan, appeared in Brooklyn federal court on charges of conspiracy to provide material support to terrorists.

The FBI said Farekh, who had been deported from Pakistan to the United States and arrested, conspired to provide personnel to be used by the Islamist militant group in support of efforts to kill U.S. citizens and members of the U.S. military abroad. (additional reporting by Nate Raymond)

midnight rambler
2nd April 2015, 03:24 PM
Is this anything at all like kiddie p0rn being found on one's 'puter??

cheka.
9th April 2015, 09:20 PM
that didnt take long - fbi setup with feinstein pushing the nyc.dc solution

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-09/fbi-busts-another-its-own-terrorist-plots-and-politicians-rush-blame-first-amendment

The FBI Busts Up Another Of Its Own Terrorist Plots And Politicians Rush To Blame The First Amendment

skip to the feinstein solution to this pathetic frame job

New York City

There are several pretty incredible angles to this story. First of all, these “terrorists” had to be informed about the Anarchist Cookbook by an FBI informant. This is remarkable considering every kid in my junior high school knew all about this book when I was growing up. That’s a clear indication that this “ISIS inspired cell” was completely clueless and nowhere close to being ready to pull off any sort of attack without the FBI’s help.

Even worse, Dianne Feinstein is now calling for tossing aside the Constitution in order to ban this book, which the FBI had to inform the so-called terrorists about in the first place. You really can’t make this level of stupidity up. TechDirt covered this angle well:

Still, politicians never leave an opportunity like this unexploited, and so in jumps Senator Dianne Feinstein, arguing that the only proper way to deal with this is to, of course… censor the internet:



I am particularly struck that the alleged bombers made use of online bombmaking guides like the Anarchist Cookbook and Inspire Magazine. These documents are not, in my view, protected by the First Amendment and should be removed from the Internet.



For what it’s worth, Dianne Feinstein’s “view” is wrong. The Anarchist Cookbook is very much protected by the First Amendment. While the book is banned in other countries, who don’t have the equivalent of the First Amendment, it’s perfectly legal in the US. The FBI/DOJ has extensively investigated the Anarchist’s Cookbook in particular over the years, and as far back as 1997 directly told Senator Feinstein that she could not ban it. This is from the DOJ back in 1997:



Senator Feinstein introduced legislation during the last Congress in an attempt to fill this gap. The Department of Justice agrees that it would be appropriate and beneficial to adopt further legislation to address this problem directly, if that can be accomplished in a manner that does not impermissibly restrict the wholly legitimate publication and teaching of such information, or otherwise violate the First Amendment.



The First Amendment would impose substantial constraints on any attempt to proscribe indiscriminately the dissemination of bombmaking information. The government generally may not, except in rare circumstances, punish persons either for advocating lawless action or for disseminating truthful information — including information that would be dangerous if used — that such persons have obtained lawfully.



The complaint also lists many other books and magazines and web pages that the various people read throughout, and later has one of the wannabe terrorists thanking the undercover agent for introducing The Anarchist’s Cookbook to her.



As for the other document that Feinstein wants to censor, Inspire, is Al Qaeda’s magazine. And, again, reading through the complaint you see that it was actually the undercover agent who brought the magazine. The wannabe terrorist did ask the undercover agent to get it, and eventually it was the undercover agent who actually got it. Velentzas keeps asking the undercover agent to find a copy of Inspire, over and over again in the complaint until eventually the agent complies:



On or about December 24, 2014, the UC visited VELENTZAS and brought the Spring 2014 issue of Inspire magazine, as previously requested by VELENTZAS.



In other words, in neither case did the would be terrorists get the “bad” material from the internet. In both cases it came from the undercover FBI agent.

Yet Senator Feinstein wants to pretend they discovered the information on the internet, so that she can advocate censoring the internet. As politicians know all too well, you never let the truth get in the way of a good story. Particularly if the story can be used to further advance authoritarianism

Jewboo
9th April 2015, 09:36 PM
This is remarkable considering every kid in my junior high school knew all about this book when I was growing up...The FBI/DOJ has extensively investigated the Anarchist’s Cookbook in particular over the years, and as far back as 1997 directly told Senator Feinstein that she could not ban it...




Anarchist Cookbook (https://www.google.com/search?q=Anarchist+Cookbook+.pdf&biw=1536&bih=742&source=lnms&sa=X&ei=GUUnVe-DGov9oASC5YGADw&ved=0CAUQ_AUoAA&dpr=1.25)


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