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EE_
4th April 2015, 03:29 AM
How Many People Will Have To Migrate Out Of California When All The Water Disappears?
By Michael Snyder, on April 2nd, 2015

The drought in California is getting a lot worse. As you read this, snowpack levels in the Sierra Nevada mountains are the lowest that have ever been recorded. That means that there won’t be much water for California farmers and California cities once again this year. To make up the difference in recent years, water has been pumped out of the ground like crazy. In fact, California has been losing more than 12 million acre-feet of groundwater a year since 2011, and wells all over the state are going dry. Once the groundwater is all gone, what are people going to do? 100 years ago, the population of the state of California was 3 million, and during the 20th century we built lots of beautiful new cities in an area that was previously a desert. Scientists tell us that the 20th century was the wettest century in 1000 years for that area of the country, but now weather patterns are reverting back to normal. Today, the state of California is turning back into a desert but it now has a population of 38 million people. This is not sustainable in the long-term. So when the water runs out, where are they going to go?

I have written quite a few articles about the horrific drought in California, but conditions just continue to get even worse. According to NPR, snowpack levels in the Sierra Nevada mountains are “just 6 percent of the long-term average”…

The water outlook in drought-racked California just got a lot worse: Snowpack levels across the entire Sierra Nevada are now the lowest in recorded history — just 6 percent of the long-term average. That shatters the previous low record on this date of 25 percent, set in 1977 and again last year.

California farmers rely on that water. Last year, farmers had to let hundreds of thousands of acres lie fallow because of the scarcity of water, and it is being projected that this year will be even worse…

More than 400,000 acres of farmland were fallowed last year because of scarce water. Credible sources have estimated that figure could double this year.

Fortunately, many farmers have been able to rely on groundwater in recent years, but now wells are running dry all over the state. Here is more from NPR…

Last year was already a tough year at La Jolla Farming in Delano, Calif. Or as farm manager Jerry Schlitz puts it, “Last year was damn near a disaster.”

La Jolla is a vineyard, a thousand-or-so acres of neat lines of grapevines in the southern end of the San Joaquin Valley. It depends on water from two sources: the federal Central Valley Project and wells.

Until last year, Schlitz says, wells were used to supplement the federal water.

“Now, we have nothing but wells. Nothing. There’s no water other than what’s coming out of the ground,” he says.

Last year, one of those wells at La Jolla dried up. The farm lost 160 acres — about a million dollars’ worth of produce, plus the wasted labor and other resources.

Are you starting to understand the scope of the problem?

Despite all of the wonderful technology that we have developed, we are still at the mercy of the weather.

And if this drought continues to drag on, it is absolutely going to cripple a state that contains more than 10 percent of the total U.S. population.

In an attempt to fight the water shortage, Governor Jerry Brown has instituted statewide water restrictions for the first time ever…

California announced sweeping statewide water restrictions for the first time in history Wednesday in order to combat the region’s devastating drought, the worst since records began.

Governor Jerry Brown issued the declaration at a press conference in a parched, brown slope of the Sierra Nevada mountains that would normally be covered by deep snow.

“Today, we are standing on dry grass where there should be five feet (1.5 meters) of snow,” Brown said. “This historic drought demands unprecedented action.”

So what will these restrictions include?

The following is a summary from Natural News…

• A ban on non-drip irrigation systems for all new homes.

• A requirement for golf courses and cemeteries to “reduce water consumption.” (And yet, the very idea of green golf courses in the middle of a California desert is insane to begin with…)

• Force farmers to report more details on their water usage so that the state government can figure out where all the water is going (and where to restrict it even further).

• Outlawing the watering of grass on public street medians.

• Discussions are also under way to throw “water wasters” in jail for up to 30 days, according to another LA Times article. The most likely source of intel for incarcerating water wasters will be neighborhood snitches who monitor water usage of nearby homes and call the authorities if they see too much water being used.

If the drought does not go on for much longer, these restrictions may be enough.

But what if it continues to intensify?

The following graphic shows the U.S. Drought Monitor map for the state of California for each of the last five years in late March…



It doesn’t take a genius to see the trend.

And scientists tell us that this might just be the beginning. There have been megadroughts in that area of the country that have lasted more than 100 years in the past, and there are fears that another megadrought may have begun. The following comes from National Geographic…

California is experiencing its worst drought since record-keeping began in the mid 19th century, and scientists say this may be just the beginning. B. Lynn Ingram, a paleoclimatologist at the University of California at Berkeley, thinks that California needs to brace itself for a megadrought—one that could last for 200 years or more.

As a paleoclimatologist, Ingram takes the long view, examining tree rings and microorganisms in ocean sediment to identify temperatures and dry periods of the past millennium. Her work suggests that droughts are nothing new to California.

“During the medieval period, there was over a century of drought in the Southwest and California. The past repeats itself,” says Ingram, who is co-author of The West Without Water: What Past Floods, Droughts, and Other Climate Clues Tell Us About Tomorrow. Indeed, Ingram believes the 20th century may have been a wet anomaly.

If this is a megadrought, it is just a matter of time until massive migration will become necessary.

In fact, one UN official is already talking about it…

If the state continues on this path, there may have to be thoughts about moving people out, said Lynn Wilson, academic chair at Kaplan University and who serves on the climate change delegation in the United Nations.

“Civilizations in the past have had to migrate out of areas of drought,” Wilson said. “We may have to migrate people out of California.”

Wilson added that before that would happen, every option such as importing water to the state would likely occur— but “migration can’t be taken off the table.”

So how many people will ultimately have to leave if this drought continues for many years?

5 million?

10 million?

20 million?

And where will they go?
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/how-many-people-will-have-to-migrate-out-of-california-when-all-the-water-disappears

EE_
4th April 2015, 03:35 AM
Meanwhile...

City Plans $35M Water Park in Drought-Stricken California
Friday, 03 Apr 2015 02:39 PM
By Drew MacKenzie

The city of Dublin, California, has stunned residents by going ahead with a $35 million water park in the drought-stricken state.

While Dublin’s Emerald Glen Park gets recycled water and the kid’s spray jets have been shut off, the residents are surprised by the ongoing plans for the water park, according to CBS TV station KPIX 5.

"You can never predict a drought," Dublin parks director Paul McCreary told KPIX 5. "At this point we’re moving forward with construction."

He said that the recreation and aquatic center will include indoor and outdoor pools and water slides. The project, which has been planned for 10 years, got postponed when the economy tanked in 2007.

"When we finish the project and it’s still in a drought and we can’t fill the pools, we’ll address it at that point in time."

But Phil Duncan, who lives near the park, said, "Hey, time out, this is not the right project at the right time.

"Obviously this has been in the works for some time. But the reality is we’re in the midst of a historic drought and you cannot go forward with something like this, in these conditions, in good conscience," Duncan said.

And young Evan Rusconi said, "Kind of weird, it’s a drought. Why are they gonna use all that water for a water park?"

Gov. Jerry Brown on Wednesday ordered sweeping and unprecedented measures to save water in California. A survey has found that the snowpack, which supplies a third of the state's water, has almost completely vanished.

"We're in a new era; the idea of your nice little green grass getting water every day, that's going to be a thing of the past," Brown said,


Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/US/water-park-dublin-california-drought/2015/04/03/id/636354/#ixzz3WKrYzQdk

Shami-Amourae
4th April 2015, 04:01 AM
What may actually happen is farmers will leave the state. Most of the water is used by the farmers. I believe Hitch said 80% of the water is used by farmers. If a bunch of farmers leave the water usage should go down a lot and it should solve the drought problem that way.

EE_
4th April 2015, 04:12 AM
What may actually happen is farmers will leave the state. Most of the water is used by the farmers. I believe Hitch said 80% of the water is used by farmers. If a bunch of farmers leave the water usage should go down a lot and it should solve the drought problem that way.

What if the farmers run the aquafer dry? That would be a huge and permanent problem. The aquifer would collapse and may take generations to fill up again.

It's unimaginable to think of mass migration out of CA. People would basically have to walk away from their homes, as there would be not one buyer.

It better just rain and a lot!

Shami-Amourae
4th April 2015, 04:22 AM
It's unimaginable to think of mass migration out of CA. People would basically have to walk away from their homes, as there would be not one buyer.

It better just rain and a lot!

I don't think that will happen. The government will crack down on farmers before the cities are seriously effected. There will be limits imposed on city dwellers. For a long time the price of water has been subsidized despite the drought, so the common man hasn't felt it. If the government finally allows the free market to work and prices to go up, then I do think this problem can be worked out.

I don't think there will be a mass exodus out of the state. As long as California is giving out free money to anyone who isn't White there will be millions of people lined up with their hand out.

This video gives more of a rural/farmers perspective:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le3ZgbB_zQ8

EE_
4th April 2015, 04:34 AM
I don't think that will happen. The government will crack down on farmers before the cities are seriously effected. There will be limits imposed on city dwellers. For a long time the price of water has been subsidized despite the drought, so the common man hasn't felt it. If the government finally allows the free market to work and prices to go up, then I do think this problem can be worked out.

I don't think there will be a mass exodus out of the state. As long as California is giving out free money to anyone who isn't White there will be millions of people lined up with their hand out.

You're probably right, the government will be there with the solution.

These people aren't worried...

San Francisco tech bubble spills into mega housing bubble: San Francisco median price nears $1 million while homeownership rate falters.



I remember in the 1990s friends getting unsolicited offers for “tech” jobs where the only prerequisite was a basic understanding of computers and some common knowledge of HTML. With these simple skills, you were on your way to tech millions. San Francisco was at the hub of this insane mania. Today people will argue that we now have solid companies like Google, Apple, or Facebook pumping out great jobs for great minds. But I’m also seeing money being thrown at long-shots by venture capital just to see if something sticks. The tech bubble was spurred on by the stock market mania where the public participated. This tech mania is being spurred on by elite private capital. The first housing bubble was accessible to the masses. This housing bubble is available to Wall Street investors, uber-wealthy foreigners, and outlier households with big incomes. The San Francisco median home price now reaches $1 million and the ultimate crap shacks are to found there.

Chasing the tech dragon
The NASDAQ is up a whopping 250+ percent from the lows reached in 2009. Many of the tech money makers are located in Northern California and San Francisco is always seen as a tech magnet. But it is definitely frothy at this point. You are seeing app companies being funded for basically delivering food to your door. Not actually a revolutionary idea. Also, many of the products are dependent on people blowing disposable income. That might be hard when in San Francisco rents and housing payments continue to consume a larger portion of income.
While Los Angeles County is a majority renting county with over 50 percent of households renting, San Francisco is a hardcore renting city with only 36 percent of households owning. We should also take note that in California, housing booms and busts in regular intervals. We are already seeing price appreciation slow down in San Francisco:

http://www.doctorhousingbubble.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/San-Fran-Oct-Case-Shiller_0.jpg

There is an odd sort of trend that unfolds here and it makes sense. Hot money from the stock market flows into these companies that seem to rise and fall with the whims of the economy. But for the regular grunts at these places, housing values seem so out of reach. This one sale probably epitomizes the San Francisco market:

http://www.doctorhousingbubble.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/sf-home.jpg

1644 Great Hwy San Francisco, CA 94122
4 beds, 2 baths 1,832 square feet built in 1907
Set aside that this home was built 108 years ago. The home was listed in February for $799,000. Of course the listing warned that it would take a lot of work and that it was not for the “novice” aspiring flipper or investor. Take a look at some other shots of the home:

http://www.doctorhousingbubble.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/stairs.jpg

Stairway to real estate heaven

So what happened? The home ended up selling for $1.21 million or $411,000 over asking price in March. Even a high earning household would not only have to front the cash to buy this place but the massive amount of money needed to make this place livable. Then again, it is hilarious when you point out lower income cities in California and the comments are quick to point out “but of course! This is a lower income area! It will gentrify but not by me! Taco Tuesday baby boomers will save the day.” Point out the same toxic turd of a home in their home turf and then it becomes an excuse fest.
San Francisco ironically grew its appeal by being a progressive city and destination for hippies and counter-culture Americans. In other words, many with little to no income. Now, the tech hipster gentrification is pushing a culture of NIMBYism and causing it to become one of the most expensive cities in the country. San Francisco is absolutely not the place for the middle class or even upper middle class. It is now a city ironically for the elite and wealthy.
Things will remain good so long as the tech and stock market keep on raging on. And as we all know, there are NEVER bubbles in housing or stocks.
http://www.doctorhousingbubble.com/san-francisco-tech-bubble-spills-into-housing-bubble/

palani
4th April 2015, 04:40 AM
How Many People Will Have To Migrate Out Of California When All The Water Disappe

Short answer ... none.

Reason why? There are no People in California. The walking dead are all corporate, zombies, legal fictions, none of which have any need to be watered.

Shami-Amourae
4th April 2015, 04:43 AM
Short answer ... none.

Reason why? There are no People in California. The walking dead are all corporate, zombies, legal fictions, none of which have any need to be watered.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/001/582/picard-facepalm.jpg?1240934151

singular_me
4th April 2015, 05:02 AM
... it was doomed to happen, CA initially being a desert, it is also irrational to even think one can stretch/corrupt mother nature that much

hoarder
4th April 2015, 05:52 AM
Hopefully they will go back where they come from.........Mexico.


Wishful thinking, I know.

Santa
4th April 2015, 06:22 AM
The obvious solution for this sort of thing is to build a giant wall...

BrewTech
4th April 2015, 08:13 AM
Short answer ... none.

Reason why? There are no People in California. The walking dead are all corporate, zombies, legal fictions, none of which have any need to be watered.

Super helpful, dude. Really. Thanks.

Spectrism
4th April 2015, 08:38 AM
A slow motion train wreck is still a train wreck.

We have known what was coming for a long time.... at least some of us. And this is small when you consider the next couple years. This is why we learned to prep. We have had time to learn long term food storage and think about such politically incorrect things as self defense, power management, water supplies, debt reduction, practical skills of all sorts, etc.

Think of a giant tsunami. If you did not feel the earthquake, but saw the tidewaters suddenly going out to sea off cycle, you know that the waters will come back in just as radically- violently. What we are seeing on many fronts is the tidewaters going out to sea.

Ponce
4th April 2015, 09:39 AM
Hopefully they will go back where they come from.........Mexico.


Wishful thinking, I know.

I already spoke about this........last year most of new illegals came to the state of Oregon and now CA have 44,000 new illegals that have lost their jobs........most of them will also come to Oregon.....we have had now snow this years so the this summer will be a very, very, very, dry one.....here most of the waster (in my area) goes to the marijuana plantations.........five of them whiting for minutes from my home.

V

Serpo
4th April 2015, 09:47 AM
I already spoke about this........last year most of new illegals came to the state of Oregon and now CA have 44,000 new illegals that have lost their jobs........most of them will also come to Oregon.....we have had now snow this years so the this summer will be a very, very, very, dry one.....here most of the waster (in my area) goes to the marijuana plantations.........five of them whiting for minutes from my home.

V

Ponce dont inhale if there is a fire in your area.............................

Twisted Titan
4th April 2015, 11:26 AM
*Scientists tell us that the 20th century was the wettest century in 1000 years for that area of the country, but now weather patterns are reverting back to normal. Today, the state of California is turning back into a desert but it now has a population of 38 million people. This is not sustainable in the long-term. So when the water runs out, where are they going to go?


How about step out their house and use that giant body of saltwater and convert it to something that is drinkable but i guess that is beyond the colletive intelligence of people that call themselves men of higher learning.

Shami-Amourae
4th April 2015, 11:31 AM
Repost:
http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site568/2014/0127/20140127_031535_ssjm0126megadry90.jpg

Cebu_4_2
4th April 2015, 11:41 AM
How about step out their house and use that giant body of saltwater and convert it to something that is drinkable but i guess that is beyond the colletive intelligence of people that call themselves men of higher learning.

Not so fast there dude!

http://www.capewatersolutions.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/desalination-plant-2.bmp

The problem is that nothing that can be done will be 'permitted' to be done. Especially in CA.

madfranks
4th April 2015, 12:32 PM
How about step out their house and use that giant body of saltwater and convert it to something that is drinkable but i guess that is beyond the colletive intelligence of people that call themselves men of higher learning.

Will never happen while water prices are artificially cheap. Nobody is going to invest billions of dollars in desalination research and development while the price of water is too low to turn a profit. The peaceful way to fix the drought is to allow prices to go up as water grows ever more scarce. High water prices will attract capital to develop desalinization plants which will increase water supply. With increased supply, prices will then fall and we will still have the plants churning out fresh water. However, as you can see in the OP, the state's solution is rationing, banning water use, threats of incarceration, etc. all backed up by guns and badges.

singular_me
4th April 2015, 12:42 PM
idea is good but the state is too leveraged, madfrank... so seems like a good recipe for full domino like US crash - or in the lesser case an exodus.

monty
4th April 2015, 12:56 PM
Will never happen while water prices are artificially cheap. Nobody is going to invest billions of dollars in desalination research and development while the price of water is too low to turn a profit. The peaceful way to fix the drought is to allow prices to go up as water grows ever more scarce. High water prices will attract capital to develop desalinization plants which will increase water supply. With increased supply, prices will then fall and we will still have the plants churning out fresh water. However, as you can see in the OP, the state's solution is rationing, banning water use, threats of incarceration, etc. all backed up by guns and badges.



Aside from the fact politicians can't think rationally they are bought and paid for by the agribusiness lobbyists in California the same as the rest of the country. Nothing will improve as long as the legislators have water for their lawns and golf courses.

Twisted Titan
4th April 2015, 01:17 PM
Not so fast there dude!

http://www.capewatersolutions.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/desalination-plant-2.bmp



The problem is that nothing that can be done will be 'permitted' to be done. Especially in CA.

Exactly

So the only true drought in cali is one of common sense and the will to use it.

Let them die of thirst....all winners of the darwin award.

palani
4th April 2015, 01:24 PM
Super helpful, dude. Really. Thanks.

You bet. No worries, mate.

Horn
4th April 2015, 07:01 PM
International real estate inflation of California will make water flow from all corners of the globe.

Ponce
6th April 2015, 10:05 AM
Ponce dont inhale if there is a fire in your area.............................

Serpo..........we hade one of the biggest forest fire right here back 2002?........I bought a complete fire fighting equipment which included the hose, water pump (Honda) and a 3,500 gallon tank, already had the 500 gallons. I have a wide open field where I can put my cars and anything else that I really want to save. I test everything once a year to make sure that is working..........now with the water shortage the water in both tanks will last me for about six months.

Cebu? I already made one of those water recovery continers, but a smaller one.......about four X eight ......works great.....only for experiment and it works great.

In a real emergency you can get water from trees, grass and so on......

V

cheka.
7th April 2015, 08:09 AM
*Scientists tell us that the 20th century was the wettest century in 1000 years for that area of the country, but now weather patterns are reverting back to normal. Today, the state of California is turning back into a desert but it now has a population of 38 million people. This is not sustainable in the long-term. So when the water runs out, where are they going to go?


How about step out their house and use that giant body of saltwater and convert it to something that is drinkable but i guess that is beyond the colletive intelligence of people that call themselves men of higher learning.

geography/history books from as little as 40 years ago show cali as mostly arid. reversion to the mean is a btch sometimes.

still, nothing seawater + distillation columns couldn't solve...