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palani
5th April 2015, 04:08 PM
I don't know when this will happen here. Probably inevitable. But Sears no longer issues free catalogs so ....

Venezuela reaches the final stage of socialism: no toilet paper
http://www.businessinsider.com/venezuela-reaches-the-final-stage-of-socialism-no-toilet-paper-2015-4


In 1990 I went to a Cato Institute conference in what was then still the Soviet Union. We were told to bring our own toilet paper, which was in fact useful advice.

Now, after only 16 years of Chavista rule, Venezuela has demonstrated that "Socialism of the 21st Century" is pretty much like socialism in the 20th century. Fusion reports:

Venezuela's product shortages have become so severe that some hotels in that country are asking guests to bring their own toilet paper and soap, a local tourism industry spokesman said on Wednesday….

"It's an extreme situation," says Xinia Camacho, owner of a 20-room boutique hotel in the foothills of the Sierra Nevada national park. "For over a year we haven't had toilet paper, soap, any kind of milk, coffee or sugar. So we have to tell our guests to come prepared."…

Montilla says bigger hotels can circumvent product shortages by buying toilet paper and other basic supplies from black market smugglers who charge up to 6-times the regular price. But smaller, family-run hotels can't always afford to pay such steep prices, which means that sometimes they have to make do without.

Camacho says she refuses to buy toilet paper from the black market on principle.

"In the black market you have to pay 110 bolivares [$0.50] for a roll of toilet paper that usually costs 17 bolivares [$ 0.08] in the supermarket," Camacho told Fusion. "We don't want to participate in the corruption of the black market, and I don't have four hours a day to line up for toilet paper" at a supermarket….

Recently, Venezuelan officials have been stopping people from transporting essential goods across the country in an effort to stem the flow of contraband. So now Camacho's guests could potentially have their toilet paper confiscated before they even make it to the hotel.

Shortages, queues, black markets, and official theft. And blaming the CIA. Yes, Venezuela has truly achieved socialism.

But what I never understood is this: Why toilet paper? How hard is it to make toilet paper? I can understand a socialist economy having trouble producing decent cars or computers. But toilet paper? And soap? And matches?

Sure, it's been said that if you tried communism in the Sahara, you'd get a shortage of sand. Still, a shortage of paper seems like a real achievement.

Glass
5th April 2015, 05:48 PM
are Sears Catalogs especially absorbent? A bit like King and Country posters during WWI, noted for being super absorbent.

monty
5th April 2015, 06:05 PM
Maybe you can still get J. C. Penny catalogues. Montgomery Wards were also in demand back in the day.

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palani
5th April 2015, 06:11 PM
are Sears Catalogs especially absorbent? A bit like King and Country posters during WWI, noted for being super absorbent.
They were plentiful and lacking septic appeared to decompose with the proper amendments.

palani
5th April 2015, 06:13 PM
Maybe you can still get J. C. Penny catalogues. Montgomery Wards were also in demand back in the day.
Fortunately Sunday papers have lots of ads. Just lacking the two holer though since we joined civilization.

Twisted Titan
6th April 2015, 01:56 PM
Only in a socialist paradise can contraband and essential goods be used in the same sentence

ximmy
6th April 2015, 02:49 PM
Will Ponce come to Venezuela's rescue?

Officials in Venezuela have been rumored to be in contact with an individual named Ponce, also considered by many to be the most interesting man in the world.
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s222/chrisneros/mostinterestingTP.jpg
With the ongoing economic crisis that has elevated the price of toilet paper, Ponce is in a unique position to aid Venezuela during this tragedy.
http://www.commercial-janitorial.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/1-Ply-Toilet-Paper.jpg
Talks include pricing and transportation details to be considered.
http://hipertextual.com/archivo/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/cuba-venezuela.png
Please stay tuned for further developments.http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7487&stc=1

Horn
6th April 2015, 03:05 PM
Forester guy I knew here was trying forever to sell CR .gov on plans for domestic paper growth.

He was repeatedly shot down, even though his breed of tree grew to full maturity within like 7 years in the tropical climas.

Cutting trees is bad for Amazonian rain forests was the meme... even where no trees grow currently in existing farm tracts.

Ponce
6th April 2015, 05:26 PM
You guys do me honor even when making fun of me hahahahahah...........hey Ximmy? that wall of tp looks almost like mine, only difference is that mine is composed of many different brands and not just one.

The problem in Venezuela is that most of the profit from its oil was going to the people in the form of less prices for everything, they even build 2,500 homes for the poor. But now with lower oil price they don't have the money to keep on doing it and the US found a back door to make trouble for them......when has the US build 2,500 for their poor?..........but.......we do it for the people in a foreign land.......the state of Israel.

V