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gunDriller
8th April 2015, 06:08 PM
Reading about it on the Wiki page, they say something about using it in rifles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.357_Magnum

"It has also become popular as a "dual-use" cartridge in short, light rifles like the American Old West lever-actions. In a rifle, the bullet will exit the barrel at about 1,800 feet per second (550 m/s),[14] making it far more versatile than the .30 Carbine or the .32-20 Winchester."


Not sure what rifle would take it.

I have a rifle that takes 5.56, and I was looking at this rifle that takes 7 mm -

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/firearms/rifles/mossberg-atr-308-22-black-synthetic-scoped-package.html


So what rifle would take a .357 Magnum bullet ?

Shami-Amourae
8th April 2015, 06:10 PM
Typically lever-action rifle "cowboy guns".

http://www.henryrifles.com/rifles/big-boy/

http://www.henryrifles.com/wp-content/uploads/rifles/Big-Boy-Rifle1.png

Carl's choice in Season 4 of The Walking Dead:
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/CIdYSDb2PCM/maxresdefault.jpg

Glass
8th April 2015, 06:18 PM
I think you can get it in a marlin.

hoarder
8th April 2015, 06:32 PM
"Dual use" cartridges are a bad idea, IMO. Powders are not universal. There are handgun powders and there are rifle powders. Take for example a .44 magnum rifle, plenty have been made. Using handgun cartridges it will kick like a mule. The powder is too fast burning.

That said, I think with the right powder, 357 and 44 magnums are better suited to rifles than handguns.

osoab
8th April 2015, 06:41 PM
I think you can get it in a marlin.

I like my Marlin 1894C cowboy in 38/357. Pre Cerebus too. :D

http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/1894centerfire/1894C.asp

gunDriller
8th April 2015, 06:42 PM
>> "tubular magazine tops off at 10 rounds."

don't know how it works, but

it sounds good !

monty
8th April 2015, 06:42 PM
Apparently Ruger offers one also



http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7493&stc=1

osoab
8th April 2015, 06:50 PM
http://www.vaq34.com/junk/snactical_lever_action.jpg

Glass
8th April 2015, 07:32 PM
http://www.vaq34.com/junk/snactical_lever_action.jpg

Not sure how stable it would be when "cycling" the action. I think you would have some weird pivot point with that grip. Maybe not with firm handling and practice. I like lever action guns. Want one. A friend of mine was also looking. Keen because of the calibre cross over. I think they was looking at a .45 or maybe it was a .40. Don't know enough myself.

But then hoarder make a good point about your different powders. But I'm wondering about magnum. If your running a Mag pistol you would probably be using a fairly hot power anyway to get the power factor up there. Would that give you a small amount of cross over to run the same powder in your rifle cartridges, making them one size nearly suits all?

monty
8th April 2015, 07:46 PM
I haven't hand loaded any amunition in years, but If memory serves me correctly Hercules 2400 rifle powder made a good load for the .357 mag.

monty
8th April 2015, 07:51 PM
But then hoarder make a good point about your different powders. But I'm wondering about magnum. If your running a Mag pistol you would probably be using a fairly hot power anyway to get the power factor up there. Would that give you a small amount of cross over to run the same powder in your rifle cartridges, making them one size nearly suits all?

Actually pistol powders are "hotter" than rifle powders, as in faster burning. You definitely don't want to use pistol powder in rifle ammunition. The chamber pressures will destroy the rifle, and maybe you as well.

Glass
8th April 2015, 07:53 PM
Thank you, I'll be sure to remember that one.


Actually pistol powders are "hotter" than rifle powders, as in faster burning. You definitely don't want to use pistol powder in rifle ammunition. The chamber pressures will destroy the rifle, and maybe you as well.

Norweger
12th April 2015, 09:08 AM
http://www.vaq34.com/junk/snactical_lever_action.jpg

I see your abomination and will raise with an even bigger one.

http://www.mossberg.com/images/Mossberg_Guns/930/New/41026.gif

gunDriller
12th April 2015, 09:47 AM
I see your abomination and will raise with an even bigger one.

http://www.mossberg.com/images/Mossberg_Guns/930/New/41026.gif

it's beautiful in its ugliness ?


definitely came from a different school of design than the iPhone.


Got a quote on the Henry -
$764, list is $899

I often see rifles with scopes for $300+, i can be patient.

Norweger
12th April 2015, 03:01 PM
it's beautiful in its ugliness ?


He-he. No.

Speaking of .357s.. why not the Winchester 1873 Miroku

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=475806566

milehi
12th April 2015, 03:33 PM
I'm looking at a lever right now. A Browning takedown in .308

hoarder
12th April 2015, 04:21 PM
I'm looking at a lever right now. A Browning takedown in .308That sounds expensive and probably kicks pretty hard, too. Sure would be nice in bear country.

mick silver
18th April 2015, 08:26 PM
I just pick this up this week . I have been wanting one for a few years and I broke down and got it ... http://www.henryrifles.com/rifles/golden-boy/

Glass
19th April 2015, 12:15 AM
cool gun and a pretty cool web site. I would want one as well.

osoab
19th April 2015, 05:44 AM
I just pick this up this week . I have been wanting one for a few years and I broke down and got it ... http://www.henryrifles.com/rifles/golden-boy/

Did you splurge on an engraved receiver?


Turn your Henry Golden Boy into a unique heirloom with the Personalized Golden Boy Receiver Cover (http://www.henryrifles.com/product/personalized-henry-golden-boy/)

Half Sense
19th April 2015, 09:13 AM
.357 Magnum out of a rifle barrel is plenty of fun and also useful for home defense, hunting, or survival. No problem for deer within 100 yards. With the 158gr and 125gr ammo from Buffalo Bore, the .357 can surpass the 30-30 in energy levels. The 180gr hard cast ammo would be useful against black bears. .38 Special wadcutters would be effective for small and medium sized game and pest control. For home defense I might stick with .38 Special +P hollow points, just because lighting off Magnums indoors with no ear protection is not gonna be fun.

Most hollow point .357 ammo is quite lively out of a lever action rifle, but the recoil isn't too bad. A full sized steel .357 revolver is under 3 pounds. The rifle I own, an older Rossi 16" carbine, is very compact and weighs 5 pounds fully loaded. It's a pussycat shooting .38 Specials and has a satisfying kick with Magnums. My wife enjoys shooting this rifle more than anything else, and she's very good with it. Most other models are heavier, with the brass Henry Big Boy almost 9 pounds! Henry is now making a steel 20" Big Boy that is about 7 pounds. I think I'd look at the Henry over the current Marlin 1894 if you want a smooth and trouble-free rifle. I do think the "Big Boy" name is rather gay. I like the rifles named for the year they were invented. Rossi offers the Model 1892 in dozens of configurations, blued or stainless steel, with barrels of 16", 20", and 24". The Rossi is hundreds cheaper than the Henry or Marlin, and the 1892 is a great design by John Moses Browning. But the Rossi can be a little rough out of the box or have quality control issues. The good news is they are fairly easy to work on yourself and there are parts kits and plenty of instruction sources on how to make the Rossi slicker than snot. A lot of cowboy action shooters use slicked up Rossis. Mine has not been worked on but is pretty smooth just from general use.

Bottom line, a .357 lever action is a great do-everything rifle. I really like my 16" "Trapper" model. It's so handy to carry and extremely maneuverable. Simple to operate and quick into action. I like that you can add more ammo at any time in rifles that feature a loading gate. Shoot a few rounds, take cover, and slip a couple more into the loading gate. The Henrys use a tube magazine with no loading gate, so the Henry has to be taken out of battery for reloading. Probably not a huge deal for home defense, because if 8 or 9 shots isn't enough you're probably screwed anyway. If I got another it would either be a 20" stainless Rossi or the steel Gay Boy, I mean Big Boy.

monty
19th April 2015, 09:30 AM
I had a Rossi .357 single action revolver I think about 1985. I fired a couple of Super X factory loads through it. It sheared the screws holding it together. I have stuck with higher quality firearms since that experience. Winchester, Weatherby, Remington, Colt and a couple of FN Mausers customized. Quality can't be sacrificed when your safety is involved.


edit: Yes, the Rossi was rather roughly finished too.

milehi
19th April 2015, 05:02 PM
That sounds expensive and probably kicks pretty hard, too. Sure would be nice in bear country.

I decided not to get it. I already have a Ruger GSR.