Russia’s new Armata tank

[Horn]

Russian troops are receiving beta versions of a future armored tracked platform that could usher in the 5th generation conventional land tank, heavy APC, artillery and missile launcher and possibly fully robotic assault armored vehicle.

After five years of development, the Uralvagonzavod Research and Production Corporation has finalized manufacture of the first batch of Armata tanks and heavy personnel carriers. They have been included in Russia’s 2015 defense order, TASS said.
Reportedly, 20 units have already been manufactured and issued to troops for hands-on training.

The exact characteristics and appearance of the platform remain classified, though this might soon change as the new vehicles are on the verge of taking part in the Victory Day Parade on Red Square, May 9 this year.

A better chance to see these innovative battle vehicles of the future might be given to experts and public alike during Russia Arms Expo 2015 (September 9-12, Nizhniy Tagil).

http://rt.com/news/234363-armata-tracked-armored-platform/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsAePLKmBfY


The "Armata" Universal Combat Platform is a Russian prototype of an advanced next generation heavy military tracked vehicle platform. The "Armata" platform is intended to be the basis for a main battle tank, a heavy infantry fighting vehicle, acombat engineering vehicle, an armoured recovery vehicle, a heavy armoured personnel carrier, a tank support combat vehicle and several types of self-propelled artillery under the same codename based on the same chassis. It is also intended to serve as the basis for artillery, air defense, and NBC defense systems

[SWRichmond]

Well they sure know how to make a cool youtube video with cool music and cool CG "camera angles".

[midnight rambler]

Well they sure know how to make a cool youtube video with cool music and cool CG "camera angles".

It appears they may have already fielded it.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?82844-Russia-Threatens-Nuclear-War-To-Drive-NATO-Out-Of-Baltics&highlight=russia%27s+tank

[7th trump]

Tiss nothing really.
What good is that thing? Its already outdated. The US has this rail gun that shoots a projectile at mach 7 and will hit a target 100 miles out?
Designed to take out incoming missiles.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/rail-gun-u-s-navy-top-gun-article-1.1749616
Goes through 7 inches of hardened steel and keeps on going.

Russia is way behind the game?

[midnight rambler]

You just love the Death Cult with all your heart and soul, huh Donald Trump?

[7th trump]

You just love the Death Cult with all your heart and soul, huh Donald Trump?
Nope.....cant stand the death cult.....but I see that you do.
You have an ignorance about you midnight.....you prop up the soviets while pointing fingers at the death cult....don't you have any intelligence about you?
They are both one in the same.
The Bolsheviks are the fake chosen and they have made the world come to love communism while hating capitalism.

Russia gets it ass handed to them.

BTW, where did you get the idea I like the death cult?
My post didn't even mention them.
I guess you have an agenda......smack down the USofA while propping up the soviets....sounds like you have the death cult down pat.
Where in Russia did you grow up?
If not Russia what part of Israel did you grow up at?

[steyr_m]

Tiss nothing really.
What good is that thing? Its already outdated. The US has this rail gun that shoots a projectile at mach 7 and will hit a target 100 miles out?
Designed to take out incoming missiles.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/rail-gun-u-s-navy-top-gun-article-1.1749616
Goes through 7 inches of hardened steel and keeps on going.

Russia is way behind the game?

Really? Well, looking at that thing, I'm just guessing that it might be difficult to mount on a tank as it is made for the Navy. That being said, once the US starts the war with Russia, the US Navy might last a week.

http://russia-insider.com/en/how-long-would-us-navy-survive/5177

[midnight rambler]

It just bugs the shit out of you that the Russians (not the Bolsheviks you love so much) have many accomplishments which outshine the Zionist operated USG, Inc., as only one example a Russian cosmonaut orbited the earth ten months before John Glenn. (not to mention that NASA has lost SEVENTEEN astronauts vs. only two cosmonauts lost by the Russians)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Gagarin

Need
Another
Seven
Astronauts

[7th trump]

It just bugs the shit out of you that the Russians (not the Bolsheviks you love so much) have many accomplishments which outshine the Zionist operated USG, Inc., as only one example a Russian cosmonaut orbited the earth ten months before John Glenn. (not to mention that NASA has lost SEVENTEEN astronauts vs. only two cosmonauts lost by the Russians)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Gagarin

Need
Another
Seven
Astronauts
No midnight......... it doesn't bother me.
You forget the Zionist run Russia...to this day!

I could give a rats ass about who went into space first...it doesn't matter.
I'm German...and if it wasn't for the captured German scientists........Soviet Russia would still be in the stone ages....they are still today following the accomplishments of America.
Without the german scientists Russia wouldn't have had the bomb or rockets.....America already had the bomb and a jet fighter before the WWII ended...the jet fighter (Bell P59, 1943) never seen mass production because the war ended.
Russia murdered most of their scientists....how stupid is that?
Anybody can improve on an idea...the soviets are proof of this, they are the best at copying a design......they had to because the murdered all their best scientists.
Under the soviet zionists Russia hasn't been but a follower of technology.
Heck it was two simple guys in a garage that reinvented the whole world with the advent of the computer.....two unheard of Americans in a garage.
Where was Russia...oh that's right still in the dark during the 70's....using lamps and candles to see at night.

Ohhh don't shit yourself midnight....Russia has lost more than just two.

Theres an old saying....you cant make mistakes if you are doing nothing.
Says a lot about Russia now doesn't it?

[midnight rambler]

Russia has lost more than just two.

Show us the evidence of that, not some bullshit you've pulled out of your ass like you normally do. lol

[7th trump]

Really? Well, looking at that thing, I'm just guessing that it might be difficult to mount on a tank as it is made for the Navy. That being said, once the US starts the war with Russia, the US Navy might last a week.

http://russia-insider.com/en/how-long-would-us-navy-survive/5177

Its not that big and can be easily mount on a tank chassis...its barrel is shorter than most guns on any modern day battle tank.

Nice going captain obvious...I wouldn't want to be on a carrier....they are obsolete...just like the planes they carry around are obsolete.

Any navy will last a week in todays world of technology

[7th trump]

Show us the evidence of that, not some bullshit you've pulled out of your ass like you normally do. lol

Google it!

It always been known the Russians weren't that successful.............their equipment in rudimentary.

[Ponce]

Google it!

It always been known the Russians weren't that successful.............their equipment in rudimentary.

Rudimentary equipment is what will win the next WWW, less to fix and faster to fix.........and with less electronics it will be a walk in the park.

V

[steyr_m]

Its not that big and can be easily mount on a tank chassis...its barrel is shorter than most guns on any modern day battle tank.

Nice going captain obvious...I wouldn't want to be on a carrier....they are obsolete...just like the planes they carry around are obsolete.

Any navy will last a week in todays world of technology

Dude, our discussion about the 5.56x45mm and 5.45x39mm kind of soured any further discussion with you. I feel this forum should be more for learning rather than trolling.

[midnight rambler]

Google it!



You made the claim, the burden of proof is on you. Let's see the evidence to back it up.

[Horn]

I dunno, this tank looks like a Blivit to me.

Blivit - 10lbs. pounds of shit in 5 lbs. bag..

[7th trump]

Rudimentary equipment is what will win the next WWW, less to fix and faster to fix.........and with less electronics it will be a walk in the park.

V

Rudimentary equipment cant take out a target 100 miles away....nor can rudimentary equipment project at mach 7.
Do you think the musket is better than the AR15?

[7th trump]

Dude, our discussion about the 5.56x45mm and 5.45x39mm kind of soured any further discussion with you. I feel this forum should be more for learning rather than trolling.
Apparantly you didn't like my answer that this rail gun can fit on a tank chassis.

[Neuro]

Rudimentary equipment cant take out a target 100 miles away....nor can rudimentary equipment project at mach 7.
Do you think the musket is better than the AR15?
No but the Kalashnikov is. Did you hear of Werner Von Braun? Operation paper clip?

[7th trump]

No but the Kalashnikov is. Did you hear of Werner Von Braun? Operation paper clip?

No I don't think the AK is better.
An AR10 or the 6.8 has better kill and accuracies at longer distance than the ak47.
The ak is good at close range but after a distance is losses its accuracy real fast.

I'd take the SKS over the ak47. The SKS I have shoots a better pattern than a AK47 over distance. And my Mauser 8mm is a whole lot better rifle than any of them.
For distance its the Mauser 8mm (it starts at 1000 yards)....then the AR...then the SKS.......and last the ak47.

Yes I know who Werner Von Braun is.
I told you I'm German and it doesn't matter who went into space first.
If you ask me it was Germany who went into space first (unmanned) with their V1 rocket beating out the US and Russia.
Germany had the first smart rockets (radio controlled).
They were even developing the first atom bomb but couldn't get one built.
Germany was the first in many accomplishments that both the US and Russia claim.

[midnight rambler]

It always been known the Russians weren't that successful.............their equipment in rudimentary. (sic)

So Donald Trump, tell us who currently holds the keys/has exclusive access to the ISS?

[7th trump]

So Donald Trump, tell us who currently holds the keys/has exclusive access to the ISS?

Whats that have to do with anything?
If NASA hadnt retired the space shuttle it would still be taking flights up.
The next rockets NASA has developed (3.6 million pounds of thrust) I beleive surpass anything russia uses (2.4 million pounds of thrust).

Why did russia mothball their shuttle program before it ever took off the ground?

The USofA is far more advanced than the USSR.......going back to the conventional rocket system isnt new for the US (apollo missions), but the shuttle system the USSR never mastered. Russia scrapped the their shuttle for a reason.....maybe because they havent mastered the rocket yet...russia suffered 9 attempts to send a rocket into space for year 2014....thats not good!
And probably why they leave their guys in space for a long time...because they cant take the change of getting them down.

[gunDriller]

when that tank fires its main gun ... what happens to the tank driver's hearing ?


with ear-plugs and ear-muffs, my limit is about 7.62x51 (.308) - somebody else shooting it that is.

[midnight rambler]

Why did russia mothball their shuttle program before it ever took off the ground?

Well you numbskull, the Russians DID actually launch, orbit, and land their Buran space shuttle, SUCCESSFULLY, having done it all REMOTELY. They concluded that it was impractical.

[7th trump]

Well you numbskull, the Russians DID actually launch, orbit, and land their Buran space shuttle, SUCCESSFULLY, having done it all REMOTELY. They concluded that it was impractical.

1 time test flight into space orbit....which isnt getting off the ground for what it was designed to do............and was the most expensive space project ever for russia....and they moth balled it.
Bahahahahahahaha............!
And they still have trouble sending rockets into space......9 failures last year alone.
Gee I dont think NASA has that many failures.

[midnight rambler]

Gee I dont think NASA has that many failures.

No, it's far worse - SEVENTEEN lost astronauts vs. only two lost cosmonauts.

[7th trump]

No, it's far worse - SEVENTEEN lost astronauts vs. only two lost cosmonauts.

Nope wrong...more than two russian dead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spaceflight-related_accidents_and_incidents

4 russians dead in two incidents.
14 dead with two incidents for the US....both shuttle.

It looks like the US is still better to be able to put than many on a space craft while russian...you can count on one hand.

Like I say russia is behind and always will be..............the fake jews who run communism russia were never blessed and never will be. Russia will never be blessed as long as the fake are in charge.

[Neuro]

And probably why they leave their guys in space for a long time...because they cant take the change of getting them down.
You probably missed it, but the reason why that Kosmonaut was left in space so long, was because Bolshevik Soviet Union collapsed in 1991. Russia took some time to get their bearings after that... You ramble on like it never happened!

[midnight rambler]

According to the link you posted the Death Cult's NASA program has killed/lost THREE TIMES AS MANY as the Russian space program.

[7th trump]

According to the link you posted the Death Cult's NASA program has killed/lost THREE TIMES AS MANY as the Russian space program.

Russia is secretive as they dont even trust themselves.
Their equipement isnt the greatest nor high tech and they had many failures.

Again the bolshevics arent blessed and anything they touch goes to shit...like russia itself and now America.
You know as well as anyone on this site that America is infiltrated with communists jews in high places and you blame the decay of America on American principles....how convenient and rich of you comrad jewboy.
America is failing because of communism from within.
Your beloved soviet jews (bolshevics) are the worlds foremost problem.

But not to worry...they almost get the job done but they are cut down.
Continue on with your communist campaign to destroy America from within........its all for not!
You lose in the end comrad midnight.

[steyr_m]

Apparantly you didn't like my answer that this rail gun can fit on a tank chassis.

No, I think you're and idiot. If we were having these discussions at a bar and you act the way you do -- you'd get a shot to the mouth.

The "Add to Ignore List" button is looking attractive.....

[7th trump]

No, I think you're and idiot. If we were having these discussions at a bar and you act the way you do -- you'd get a shot to the mouth.

The "Add to Ignore List" button is looking attractive.....

So you'd punch a guy for proving to you that the rail gun is smaller than most modern day battle tank guns and would fit on a tank chassis?
Wow.............that behavior reminds me of primitive dindu's who think they are owed something for being black.
Dude.........take a look at that rail gun one more time and tell me it wouldnt fit on a tank chasis?
105 Howitzers are put on tank chassis...

This site has the most closed minded people I've ever seen.
Why do you hate the truth so much?

[Ponce]

Rudimentary equipment cant take out a target 100 miles away....nor can rudimentary equipment project at mach 7.
Do you think the musket is better than the AR15?

You really don't know what equipment the tanks really do have......as far as musket that is better than the AR15?...who and how do you think won the war in Viet Nam?

Have we really won any wars, as of late, with all the modern equipment that we have?........HELLL NO, all that we can do is to hold them at bay by killing civilians and not those who are defending their land.

V

[7th trump]

You really don't know what equipment the tanks really do have......as far as musket that is better than the AR15?...who and how do you think won the war in Viet Nam?

Have we really won any wars, as of late, with all the modern equipment that we have?........HELLL NO, all that we can do is to hold them at bay by killing civilians and not those who are defending their land.

V

Ponce wake up from your sleep!
Vietnam wasnt a war....it was a police action.
If the Americans could have been allowed to do what they did in Germany those vietcong would have been slaughtered....but instead the millitary has been lawyerized, take a hill and give it back campaign, go on patrol and dont gain any territory. Thats not a war....a war is full on taking territory and wiping out the enemy as you go taking no prisoners.

You people forget to easily and dont think past what you were told by the news or some armchair idiot.

[Neuro]

Ponce wake up from your sleep!
Vietnam wasnt a war....it was a police action.
If the Americans could have been allowed to do what they did in Germany those vietcong would have been slaughtered....but instead the millitary has been lawyerized, take a hill and give it back campaign, go on patrol and dont gain any territory. Thats not a war....a war is full on taking territory and wiping out the enemy as you go taking no prisoners.

You people forget to easily and dont think past what you were told by the news or some armchair idiot.
Which wars have you fought in?

[7th trump]

That rail gun can hit a target 100 miles away in 1.11 minutes.
The soviets dont have a damn thing to compete with it.
Ships are sitting ducks as well as mobile missile launchers. Enemy airfields are history and any incoming missiles can be neutralized.
That thing projects a projectile at mach 7 in a split second.
Imagine the potential to destroy enemy satilites as they fly over the US.
Russia can be blinded quite easily by knocking out its satilitse in low earth orbit.....not good for russia.
Satelites are easy prey for this gun as they cant deviate much and are on a specific course which can be calculated with accuracy of timing.

They thought designing planes to dance in the sky was a good idea.....bahahahahahahaha.................fools!

[7th trump]

Which wars have you fought in?

None and that question is irrevelant to what I'm saying about police action vs an actual all out war like that of WWII.

You're playing games neuro...but good try.
Ohhh heck why am I talking with you.....you arent even an American....you're a foreigner.

[Neuro]

None and that question is irrevelant to what I'm saying about police action vs an actual all out war like that of WWII.

You're playing games neuro...but good try.
Ohhh heck why am I talking with you.....you arent even an American....you're a foreigner.
And you are an armchair idiot!

[Ponce]

None and that question is irrevelant to what I'm saying about police action vs an actual all out war like that of WWII.

You're playing games neuro...but good try.
Ohhh heck why am I talking with you.....you arent even an American....you're a foreigner.

So, the Korean war was a "police" action, the Viet Nam war was a "police" action....and we ran away from both of them.........we only win "police" action against countries with little or no fighting equipment.........by the way, you are talking to a foreigner......if not in body at least in spirit for a Cuban will I always be.

V

[Horn]

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Albert_Pike_WWIII.jpg

Putin Lifts Ban on Russian Missile Sales to Iran

APRIL 13, 2015

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/14/world/europe/putin-lifts-ban-on-russian-missile-sales-to-iran.html?_r=0

[7th trump]

And you are an armchair idiot!

Is that the best game you have?

[7th trump]

So, the Korean war was a "police" action, the Viet Nam war was a "police" action....and we ran away from both of them.........we only win "police" action against countries with little or no fighting equipment.........by the way, you are talking to a foreigner......if not in body at least in spirit for a Cuban will I always be.

V

What do you expect would happen when going into millitary policing action against a country who's giving everything it has?
If what we did in Germany to those third world shit hole countries we were millitary policing we would have gutted and destroyed them in weeks.

[Neuro]

Is that the best game you have?
Are you talking to me?


Ohhh heck why am I talking with you.....you arent even an American....you're a foreigner.

[7th trump]

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Albert_Pike_WWIII.jpg

Putin Lifts Ban on Russian Missile Sales to Iran

APRIL 13, 2015

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/14/world/europe/putin-lifts-ban-on-russian-missile-sales-to-iran.html?_r=0

Theres no proof Albert Pike wrote such a letter.

[7th trump]

Are you talking to me?

What do you think?
Am I?

[Neuro]

What do you think?
Am I?
An arm chair idiot? Certainly!

[ximmy]

Is 7th trump in this tread causing problems. Do you guys need me to take over and put him in his place... again?

[7th trump]

Is 7th trump in this tread causing problems. Do you guys need me to take over and put him in his place... again?

What makes you think you put me in my place?

[ximmy]

What makes you think you put me in my place?

“They hit me,” 7th trump says, “but I’m not hurt!

They beat me, but I don’t feel it!

When will I wake up, so I can reel, and sway, and fall again."

[Shami-Amourae]

No one really uses tanks anymore. It's more of a show of muscle, but it really doesn't have any benefit in modern warfare.

Future wars will be done in cyberspace.

Why bomb a town when you can hack it's electric grid? Modern society is extremely complex and extremely fragile. It doesn't take much more than a single 22LR round to take out an entire grid. Drones and people who can hack drones will be the major tank replacement.

21st Century Warfare Renders the Tank Obsolete (http://www.wealthdaily.com/articles/21st-century-warfare-renders-the-tank-obsolete/5017)

[Hitch]

Is 7th trump in this tread causing problems. Do you guys need me to take over and put him in his place... again?

Get him, Ximmy. 7th is supposed to be a Christian. I don't see any Christian like behavior in this thread.

[Shami-Amourae]

Get him, Ximmy. 7th is supposed to be a Christian. I don't see any Christian like behavior in this thread.

7th is a Christian. Christianity is the religion of worshiping the Pharisees (Jews.) It has nothing to with Jesus or any of that faggy love shit.

[brosil]

http://www.astrosurf.com/luxorion/qsl-torre-bert.htm

[Hitch]

7th is a Christian. Christianity is the religion of worshiping the Pharisees (Jews.) It has nothing to with Jesus or any of that faggy love shit.

Christianity is supposed to be based upon the teachings of Jesus, and the bible, the word of God. Maybe 7th is a new age Christian?

[7th trump]

No one really uses tanks anymore. It's more of a show of muscle, but it really doesn't have any benefit in modern warfare.

Future wars will be done in cyberspace.

Why bomb a town when you can hack it's electric grid? Modern society is extremely complex and extremely fragile. It doesn't take much more than a single 22LR round to take out an entire grid. Drones and people who can hack drones will be the major tank replacement.

21st Century Warfare Renders the Tank Obsolete (http://www.wealthdaily.com/articles/21st-century-warfare-renders-the-tank-obsolete/5017)

And that's the truth.
Drones are the future where they will do the major battle leaving the tens of thousands of foot troops to clean up whats left afterwards.
Anything sitting within 100 miles is a target. Low earth orbit isn't safe any longer from the ground with this rail gun technology.
And the higher it gets the less friction of earths atmosphere to slow it down.
Could you imagine if that rail gun was twice the size...say a 105 howitzer size.

[monty]

I dunno, this tank looks like a Blivit to me.

Blivit - 10lbs. pounds of shit in 5 lbs. bag..

last time I heard that expression I was in high school over 50 years ago.

[7th trump]

Christianity is supposed to be based upon the teachings of Jesus, and the bible, the word of God. Maybe 7th is a new age Christian?

Not even close Hitch.
How about "original" school Christianity.
You seem to think all Christians are passive...that's new age.
I'm no fool Hitch.
The 144,000 are here on earth as we speak.................... ready and waiting.
The generation of the Fig Tree has gray hair and are dying off.....all prophesy will be fulfilled before that generation passes (times running out). The 144,000 will have to be here to witness the wicked one....and they wont be children or the very elderly.
And they wont take any shit from anybody.
They fought against the wicked one in the first earth age and they will be here to do it again....that's prophesy!

[Horn]

last time I heard that expression I was in high school over 50 years ago.

9 years old when I learned that word, 35 years ago from a Quaker descendant. lol

[Hitch]

Not even close Hitch.
How about "original" school Christianity.
You seem to think all Christians are passive...that's new age.
I'm no fool Hitch.
The 144,000 are here on earth as we speak.................... ready and waiting.
The generation of the Fig Tree has gray hair and are dying off.....all prophesy will be fulfilled before that generation passes (times running out). The 144,000 will have to be here to witness the wicked one....and they wont be children or the very elderly.
And they wont take any shit from anybody.
They fought against the wicked one in the first earth age and they will be here to do it again....that's prophesy!

Where in the bible does is say 144,000 are to be saved? Do you even realize how crazy this sounds?

[midnight rambler]

Where in the bible does is say 144,000 are to be saved? Do you even realize how crazy this sounds?

I thought you got it by now - our very own Donald Trump lives in a Satanic fantasy world, just like the Joo York Shitty Donald Trump (i.e. that somehow this fantasy world is the one and only exclusive reality superior to ALL others).

[ximmy]

Where in the bible does is say 144,000 are to be saved? Do you even realize how crazy this sounds?

There are 144,000 virgins from the 12 tribes. Specially chosen to sing a new song. Not to fight. Me thinks 7th trump is batshit crazy...

"Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel." Rev. 7:4

"These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they remained virgins. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes." Rev 14:4

[Jewboo]

Methinks 7th Trump is batshit crazy...




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOpva_iit-8
7th Trump's Sister after visiting Ximmy




:rolleyes:

[7th trump]

Where in the bible does is say 144,000 are to be saved? Do you even realize how crazy this sounds?

144,000 aren't the only ones saved. Who told you that lie?
The 144,000 are those who know who the lawless one is when they see him. They are only virgins to not being fooled in the first place. They have not been defiled by the lies of the harlot.
They witness against the lawless one and turn many away from would be certain destruction.


"Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel." Rev. 7:4
Rev 7:4 is not 144,000 who were saved.
Its 144,000 who were sealed.
This sealed is very easy to understand. What it means to be "sealed"..............is their minds are sealed in understanding the number 666.
Its an event...a grand entrance in other words. They know this guy is a fake.
The seed falls in fertile land and germinates.......for you...the seed has fallen on rocks and doesn't germinate (you could care less).

[7th trump]

I thought you got it by now - our very own Donald Trump lives in a Satanic fantasy world, just like the Joo York Shitty Donald Trump (i.e. that somehow this fantasy world is the one and only exclusive reality superior to ALL others).

Huh?
Who here among us is supporting satans soviet armed forces like its 1999?
Certainly is not me.
You lie and twist the truth.
That's fine midnight...you'll answer to yours just as ximmy will answer to hers....mark the words midnight. You will answer to all the games you play.

[Hitch]

144,000 aren't the only ones saved. Who told you that lie?
The 144,000 are those who know who the lawless one is when they see him. They are only virgins to not being fooled in the first place. They have not been defiled by the lies of the harlot.
They witness against the lawless one and turn many away from would be certain destruction.

OK, so the 144,000 are the fighters for God destined to destroy the lawless one. We can just call him the devil.

I don't know, 7th, but I do know I keep getting more spiritual over the years. Was raised as a Catholic, church school and all. I think God has it all figured out though, and we shouldn't need to worry about a thing. My thoughts.

[ximmy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOpva_iit-8
7th Trump's Sister after visiting Ximmy




:rolleyes:



LOL .. it's the female version of 7th trump!

[ximmy]

Huh?
Who here among us is supporting satans soviet armed forces like its 1999?
Certainly is not me.
You lie and twist the truth.
That's fine midnight...you'll answer to yours just as ximmy will answer to hers....mark the words midnight. You will answer to all the games you play.

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs46/i/2009/212/0/a/OOOh_my_god_by_nicolehinrichs.jpg

[7th trump]

OK, so the 144,000 are the fighters for God destined to destroy the lawless one. We can just call him the devil.

I don't know, 7th, but I do know I keep getting more spiritual over the years. Was raised as a Catholic, church school and all. I think God has it all figured out though, and we shouldn't need to worry about a thing. My thoughts.
And the seed sprouts and dies off quickly as it isn't in any fertile soil to grow. The sun scorches it dead dry.
Yep God had it all figured out before He destroyed the first earth. Everyone is under a test...maybe you'll pass and maybe you wont.

[Horn]

I think God has it all figured out though, and we shouldn't need to worry about a thing. My thoughts.

Some Gods would have it all figured out for you, it just depends which you're jumping rope to.

144,000 / 6 = 24,000

24,000 / 6 = 4,000

4,000 / 6 = 666.666..7


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPquvsacG5M

[Hitch]

Everyone is under a test...maybe you'll pass and maybe you wont.

If it's an honest test, I'll pass. If it's dishonest, I didn't say the right prayer at the right time BS...or something.

My problem with you religious bible thumpers is using religion as an excuse to forgive wrong doings.

If you sin, you sin. Period. Regardless of religion. Religion just gives you an excuse, you can say "the devil made me do it". I've "repented and been saved!"

No. You are still the same sinner as the rest of us.

Religion does not mean you don't control your actions..

[Jewboo]

I don't know, 7th, but I do know I keep getting more spiritual over the years.




http://www.glaad.org/sites/default/files/vatican28n-1-web.jpg

[Hitch]

http://www.glaad.org/sites/default/files/vatican28n-1-web.jpg

There's a place in Colorado now, that will bake you a cake. Eat it up, gay boy!!

[Horn]

How is it that every thread ends up in 144,000 and or homosexual?

[StreetsOfGold]

Daniel 11:21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.

Ecclesiastes 9:18 Wisdom is better than weapons of war: but one sinner destroyeth much good.