The Armanian genocide of christians by muslim in the early 20th century

[7th trump]

http://www.wnd.com/2015/04/the-armenian-genocide-and-my-grandmothers-secret/#!

For you lovers of muslims.

[Hillbilly]

Don't let Patcolo see that! its absolutely true though, I have friends that lost a lot of family do to those vermin!

[singular_me]

when it is not about financial extortion it is religion - often both

[singular_me]

didnt read it because to me wars IS genocide, there is no such a thing as a good/bad mass murder.

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Why Israel does not recognize the Armenian ‘genocide’
Sunday 26th April 2015

‘Here’s one instance where Israel is on the same side as many other countries in the Middle East.

On Friday, April 24, Armenians around the world will mark the centennial of what they call the ‘Great Catastrophe,’ when an unraveling Ottoman Empire ordered the forced deportation of ethnic Armenians. Estimates vary, but between 300,000 and 1.5 million Armenians perished in 1915 and 1916 — victims of hideous abuse and systematic slaughters that WorldViews detailed here.’

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2015/04/24/why-israel-does-not-recognize-the-armenian-genocide/

[slvrbugjim]

http://rense.com/general64/genoc.htm

LOL yea scarry moooslims huh

The plans of the 1915-23 Armenian Genocide, where a million and half Armenians perished in a barbaric way in their ancestral lands in modern Turkey, actually were drawn up and were in place by the year 1910 or 1912.
There is the book "Inner Folds of the Ottoman Revolution" written by Mevlan Zadeh Rifat in Turkish and published in 1929, the author, a pro-sultan Turk, claims that the "Armenian genocide was decided in August 1910 and October 1911, by a Young Turk committee composed entirely of displaced Balkan Jews in the format of a syncretist Jewish-Muslim sect which included Talaat, Enver, Behaeddin Shakir, Jemal, and Nizam posting as Muslims. It met in the Rothschild-funded Grand Orient loge/hotel of Salonika." Syncretism means a combination of different forms of belief or practice; masonism fits that description. As the masons started the 1897 revolution in France with the cry "liberty, fraternity, equality," Young Turks used the same slogan in their revolution of 1908.


A 1994 conference paper/lecture by Joseph Brewda of Schiller Institute entitled "Palmerson launches Young Turks to permanently control Middle East " claims the founder of the Young Turks to be a certain Jew by the name of Emmanuel Carasso. He states: "Carasso set up the Young Turk secret society in the 1890s in Salonika, then part of Turkey, and now part of Greece. Carasso was also the grand master of an Italian masonic lodge there, called 'Macedonia Resurrected.' The lodge was the headquarters of the Young Turks, and all the top Young Turk leadership were members."

[slvrbugjim]

http://www.dailystormer.com/jewish-young-turks-and-the-armenian-genocide/

The Committee of Union and Progress, later known as Young Turk movement which was responsible for the fall of the Ottoman Empire and the genocide of Armenians, Greeks and Assyrians, was created and controlled by Jews. They belonged to a group called Donmeh, crypto-Jews who converted to Islam in order to hide their Jewish identity. These Donmeh Jews were also followers of Sabbatai Zevi, a self-proclaimed Jewish Messiah who converted to Islam as well. The international Jewish elite planned to create a Jewish state in Palestine but the problem was that Palestine was under Ottoman rule. Founder of the Zionist movement, Theodor Herzl wanted to negotiate with the Ottoman Empire for Palestine, but he failed. The international Jewish elite wanted to gain control over the Ottoman Empire and destroy it in order to free Palestine, therefore the crypto-Jews of the Donmeh group founded the Committee of Union and Progress under the guise of a secular Turkish nationalist movement. The Young Turks had at least two congresses (1902 and 1907) in Paris in order to plan and prepare a revolution in order to gain control over the Ottoman Empire. In 1908, the Young Turks launched a revolution and forced Sultan Abdul Hamid II into submission.

The international Jewish elite provoked the first world war in order to achieve several goals, including the revolutions in Russia and Germany and the destruction of the Ottoman Empire. In 1917, Great Britain signed the Balfour Declaration, the promise for the creation of a Jewish state in Palestine. British troops could gain control over Palestine and prepared it for the creation of a Jewish state in Palestine. Crypto-Jew Mustafa Kemal Ataturk created a Turkish Republic in order to destroy the Ottoman Empire completely. The Jewish revolutionist Alexander Parvus (who got rich through arms trading) was the financial adviser of the Young Turks and the Jewish Bolsheviks supplied Ataturk with 10 million gold roubles, 45,000 rifles, and 300 machine guns with ammunition. In 1915, the Young Turks committed a genocide against the Armenians, but also against the Greeks and Assyrians. The main reason for the Jewish genocide of the Armenians is that the Jews believe that the Armenians are the Amalekites, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amalek#Armenians_as_Amalekites) the arch enemies of the Israelites (Jews believe they are the descendants of the ancient Israelites). The Turkish government and Jewish groups such as the ADL deny the Armenian genocide, highly likely because the key persons of the Young Turk movement were Jewish, including Mustafa Kemal Ataturk.


Jewish author and rabbi Joachim Prinz (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joachim_Prinz) confirmed in his book “The secret Jews” that Ataturk was a donmeh crypto-Jew, page 122:
“The revolt of the Young Turks in 1908 against the authoritarian regime of Sultan Abdul Hamid began among the intellectuals of Salonika. It was from there that the demand for a constitutional regime originated. Among the leaders of the revolution which resulted in a more modern government in Turkey were Djavid Bey and Mustafa Kemal. Both were ardent doenmehs. Djavid Bey became minister of finance; Mustafa Kemal became the leader of the new regime and he adopted the name of Atatürk. His opponents tried to use his doenmeh background to unseat him, but without success. Too many of the Young Turks in the newly formed revolutionary Cabinet prayed to Allah, but had as their real prophet Shabtai Zvi, the Messiah of Smyrna”
http://www.dailystormer.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/NY_Times_Armenian_genocide.jpg (http://www.dailystormer.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/NY_Times_Armenian_genocide.jpg)New York Times Headline

On 14 October 1922, the Literary Digest published an articled entitled “The Sort of Mustafa Kemal is” which states:

“A SPANISH JEW BY ANCESTRY, an orthodox Moslem by birth and breeding, trained in a German war college, a patriot, a student of the campaigns of the world’s great generals, including Napoleon, Grant and Lee—these are said to be a few outstanding characteristics in the personality of the new ‘Man on Horseback’ who has appeared in the Near East. He is a real dictator, the correspondents testify, a man of the type which is at once the hope and fear of nations torn to pieces by unsuccessful wars. Unity and power have come back to Turkey largely through the will of Mustafa Kemal Pasha. No one has yet, it appears, referred to him as the ‘Napoleon of the Near East,’ but some enterprising journalist will probably do it sooner or later; for Kemal’s way of rising into power, his methods at once autocratic and carefully considered, even his military tactics, are said to resemble those of Napoleon.”

[Neuro]

http://www.wnd.com/2015/04/the-armenian-genocide-and-my-grandmothers-secret/#!

For you lovers of muslims.
Good article! I would say there is something about Turkish/Middle East character, in that they never question authority, as long as it is perceived as powerful. Oftentimes they may not do what they were ordered to do though, and their is always someone else in the hierarchy that you can blame for your lazyness/ineptitude. Another thing with Turkish/Middle Eastern society, is that you have an astounding level of ignorance in about 90% of the population and those are the ones their leaders target. I am not entirely sure wether this ignorance is biological or if it is due to Islam. I suppose it is a bit of both, but I would lean towards biology being more important. Atatürk and his revolution tried to change the cultural aspect of the ignorant masses, today it is clear it failed...

[singular_me]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWR9wvlS8Po



Statism: The Most Dangerous Religion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6uVV2Dcqt0

[Dachsie]

Speaking of the Armentian genocide, Dr. James Fetzer recently (in one of his April 2015 shows for sure, but I cannot locate the archives with show descriptions now) had a guest who spoke with him for one hour on the topic of genocides.

The guest whose name is Alan Selerian I think is a psychiatrist who specializes in helping people with severe chronic pain. This psychiatrist has been harassed by governmental entities several times and has had his office ransacked and his property confiscated. This doctor has been a consultant or expert witness called upon by federal agencies in the past. and I think is a long-time personal friend of Dr. Fetzer.

I listened to the about the first half of this interview but became vexed at the way this "schrink" was "sorting things out" on the subject of the historical "genocides" of recent world history.

http://www.webookyourshow.com/April-Archive.html

I think it is Hour 1 of the Real Deal show of April 3 but may have to search around and listen to April shows, first hour only, since show descriptions lack guest names.

Anyway, as the show progressed it was clear that the Holocaust was a major genocide that he seemed to keep going back to. He gave the formal definition he was using for "genocide" and spoke also of the bombing of Nagasaki and Hiroshima as well as the Armenian genocide. He was collectiving all these major events under his category of "genocides" that he said we must work to stop happening.

The problem is that there is serious evidence that has come to light about Hitler's "holocaust" that brings into werious doubt whether that event was a mass killing at all and whether there was deliberate gassing and intent to exterminate a whole people, the Jews. So that event cannot be included with his category of "genocides."

Another "genocide" that cannot be collectized into his defining and categorizing of "genocides" is the Nagasaki and Hiroshima Japan bombings. These two Japanese cities were, of all of Japan, the cities of I think predominant Christian population. So the people that were being wiped out to genocided were Christians, not primarily an ethnic Japanese people being eliminated. Dr. Selerian made a statement completely bypassing this religious makeup of the people of those two cities and indicated these people were being genocided because of the Japanese ethnicity.

Though I do not know the formal logical fallacy in Dr. Selerian's presentation on this radio show, it does seem to me that Dr. Selerian falsely sorted these genocides.

I think but do not know for sure that Dr. Selerian is of Jewish ethnicity and possible of some form of the Jewish religion, though most psychiatrists are either atheists or agnostics. Dr. Selerian did mention that he was of Turkish or middle eastern extraction but the Judaic aspect to this discussion was not mentioned at all.

Anyway, this false sorting claiming that all these genocides were to eliminate a people based on their nationality or blood ethnicity is I think dishonest.

There was anti-Christian religion very much involved and there was an involvement of the Judaic people, involvement not only as purported victims but also as perpetrators.

I hope this posting does not bore anyone and am sorry I cannot give the specific audio or video link to the specific archived show, but this seemed to be an example of how very learned Jewish psychiatrist professional deliberately obfuscated and clear presentation of incidents of historical genocides.

[Neuro]

Selerian sounds like a typical Armenian name. If he had been Jewish he wouldn't bring up any other genocides, than the holohoax...

[Dachsie]

Selerian sounds like a typical Armenian name. If he had been Jewish he wouldn't bring up any other genocides, than the holohoax...

While I do not doubt that his word that he has Armenian or Turkish "DNA", it is quite possible that he self-identifies as a "Jew." Names are not the be-all or tell-all when it comes to defining a "Jew." I simply use the word, copying Michael Hoffman, Judaic or I say that the person identifies themself as a Jew. I do this to avoid confusion, confusion that some Judaics always seem to be wanting.

"If he had been Jewish he wouldn't bring up any other genocides, than the holohoax."

No, that is not true.

There could be a crafty brilliant reason to lump all the peoples who were genocided into one category, the blood ethnicity category of "a people." Dr. Selerian is keeping quiet about the Jewish identity marker and the religion or Christian identity marker.

He brings the Jews in with the Christians and just indicates it is all about a blood/DNA people group, and that it has nothing whatsoever to do with religion or the BEHAVIOR of a people group identified as "Jew."

There is great value in that crafty miscategorization for "Jews."

Another matter that is separate completely is whether there was a mass murdering or a mass elimination of "a people" in Germany, that is, whether that happened at all.

The WHO exactly was "genocided", the victims, in every case of world genocides, is a separate matter.

[Neuro]

In this interesting article it says that Alen Salerian is an Armenian Christian, and many other interesting things about him, and his work... Well worth the read!
http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/people/the-spectacular-unraveling-of-washingtons-favorite-shrink-starring-alen-salerian/

[Dachsie]

"But he rejects the idea, proposed to him by colleagues over the years, that he also suffers from bipolar disorder, a more serious condition in which people sometimes feel possessed of a kind of superhuman invincibility. He said his colleagues, forgivably, had mistaken his prodigious work habits, theatrical personality, and wide-ranging artistic pursuits for a disorder."

This quote from the article you linked perhaps is a better explanation as to understanding Dr. Selerian's behavior.

I sort of backed in to the idea that he might be a Jew since it seemed like he was portraying the "Holocaust" as just one of several other "genocides" of recent times and doing that seems to be something Judaics like to do, in whatever stealth way they can.

I may be wrong but I may still be right about my judgement but I doubt we will ever know. This doctor lost his license and most of his considerable worldly wealth due to his unorthodox behavior or due to some kind vendetta held against him by the establishment who may have been out to get him.

Helping people with severe chronic pain is a very dicey situation for a doctor. The doctors initially prescribe pain medications and tell the patient the pills will only provide help in the short term. They tell the patient the prescriptions will have to stop after a few weeks. The problem is the thing causing the severe chronic pain is never helped by the doctor, and often never even properly diagnosed. The patient's pain gets worse and, even in a few weeks, becomes dependent, addicted, to the short-term medicines, and the patient has nowhere to go to get more medicines. The patient is back to fully suffering the chronic pain, which probably has only gotten worse, plus the patient is in the grips of an addiction that drives the patient to desperately go around trying to get prescriptions. It is sad situation and one difficult for doctors to deal with compassionately but correctly.

Maybe Dr. Selerian got into trouble for trying to do right by these chronic pain sufferers, but maybe Dr. Selerian got brought down by his own mental imbalances.

I used to work in the next desk from a manic-depressive, bi-polar person. The bit about them having a very artsy bent rings true. That is from the expansive manic part of the spectrum of behaviors.

[General of Darkness]

I have more and more Armenians moving into my neighborhood, these fuckers are basically light skinned "people who annoy you". Fuck them and the turks.