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Ares
12th May 2015, 07:09 PM
Lawmakers scramble to protect traditional cabs from apps as Philly medallions fetch less than 17% of asking price

Late last month, the Observer ran three stories chronicling the shocking and rapid decline of the traditional taxi model. That’s where owners buy the right to pick up street hails anywhere (including the airports) without a prior reservation and charge a metered rate to get from Point A to Point B. The number of vehicles allowed to do so is limited by the city, which issues medallions or “tins,” with the idea being that if there are too few, no one can find a ride and if there are too many, drivers can’t make a living because they’re aren’t enough fares.

Until very recently, the value of these medallions went in only one direction—up. Cities used occasional auction sales as a rainy-day fund. New York City, for example, auctioned 368 medallions between November 2013 and February 2014. Trading for around $1.2 million each, that injected almost half a billion dollars into the city’s coffers. And the owners were happy to pay because the medallions themselves were financial assets. Not only could they be counted on to increase in value, but unlike stocks or art, one could use them to make money WHILE they were increasing in value (and paying even more to the city in the form of taxes). And they could be used as collateral as well; owners of many medallions could borrow against their value to get the funds to secure even more medallions.

That entire premise is coming under fire. And lawmakers don’t seem to have any clue what to do.

Last Fall in Philadelphia, a city that badly needs more cabs on the street, the Philadelphia Parking Authority has authorized the sale of 45 additional medallions, earmarked for handicap-accessible cabs. With no new medallions having hit the market for 15 years, the Authority expected $475,000 for each of them. There were no takers.

Yesterday, the first three medallions finally sold. For $80,000 apiece.

In New York, today’s budget unveiling revealed that no new medallions would be sold this fiscal year, according to Crain’s political reporter Andrew J. Hawkins. Plummeting prices have only increased the pressure on existing medallion owners, especially the kingpins who hold dozens or even hundreds of medallions.

The Observer already wrote about New York City’s biggest medallion owner, Evgeny “Gene” Freidman, and his efforts to secure some sort of bailout as he watched the value of his 900-plus medallions shrivel. Those efforts have found surprising receptiveness in a city that has made a point of terrorizing billionaires.

Ydanis Rodriguez, the chair of New York City Council Transportation Committee, attended a secret meeting—closed to the press and whose location had to be changed when its location was printed in a newspaper. In an interview, Councilman Rodriguez told the Observer, “I shared my concern about how the value of the medallion has lost its value in such a short time.”

Clearly referring to Uber and other app-based rise sharing services, which have applied brutal disruptive pressure to an industry largely unchanged since the TV show “Taxi,” Mr. Rodriguez lowered the boom.

“A new player has joined the industry but hasn’t been subject to the same rules and regulations as those individuals who have invested for decades in yellow medallions. So I believe it is important that we see the devaluation of the medallions as a crisis.”

Mr. Rodriguez estimated to the Observer that the value of an NYC medallion is only $750,000, down from a high of around $1.3 million a year or so ago. That conforms to several medallions being offered (mostly with cars) for between $725,000 and $920,000 on a website market.

Asked why he would support a bailout that would benefit billionaires, Mr. Rodriguez objected. And launched another broadside against the industry’s unnamed foe.

“Bailout is not the concept or phrase I would use. What I believe is if we find out the reason the value of the medallion went down is that new players in the industry didn’t have to play by the same rules and regulations, then I believe we have to step up and help those individuals … to give value to those medallions.”

Meanwhile, even in Philly, there’s always a customer if the price falls low enough. The buyer of the three deeply discounted medallions? Gene Freidman.

http://observer.com/2015/05/the-taxi-industry-is-in-total-collapse/#ixzz3ZybujZmO

midnight rambler
12th May 2015, 07:30 PM
One does not have to do much digging to find some really hair-raising Uber horror stories.

One thing I have NO problem with - if one is going to earn a living/operate a business on PUBLIC PROPERTY* (i.e. public streets, highways, roads, etc.) then that party should be subject to licensing and regulation.

*aka 'traffic' aka commerce

Horn
12th May 2015, 08:51 PM
Meanwhile, even in Philly, there’s always a customer if the price falls low enough. The buyer of the three deeply discounted medallions? Gene Freidman.

My God, the pain must be unbearable...

Glass
12th May 2015, 09:43 PM
750K is an insane amount of money for a taxi plate/medallion. We have similar issues here. Taxi plates cost about the same as a house. ~$500K. The cost of using taxis are extreme here. It cost almost $10 just to get into one. I paid about $30 for a 4km journey from the airport a few months back. First time I've been in a cab in 20 years. I don't like them because they are prickling with cameras.

Uber has been under attack here for breaching taxi laws. The Govt says you need a taxi license, but that is only if you are running a taxi. For a private car doing pick ups and put downs, you only need a drivers license. The drivers license is the Commercial permit. A Driver is someone who operates a vehicle for remuneration. So the Govt is BS'ing the people as usual. The DL is all that is needed to be involved in trafficking. So sayeth the Code.

slvrbugjim
12th May 2015, 09:48 PM
750K is an insane amount of money for a taxi plate/medallion. We have similar issues here. Taxi plates cost about the same as a house. ~$500K. The cost of using taxis are extreme here. It cost almost $10 just to get into one. I paid about $30 for a 4km journey from the airport a few months back. First time I've been in a cab in 20 years. I don't like them because they are prickling with cameras.

Uber has been under attack here for breaching taxi laws. So the Govt is BS'ing the people as usual. The DL is all that is needed to be involved in trafficking. So sayeth the Code.

Taxi service companies are controlled mafia like service companies in most cities and they are dinosaurs of modern business. to hell with them

Glass
12th May 2015, 09:50 PM
Taxi service companies are controlled mafia like service companies in most cities and they are dinosaurs of modern business. to hell with them

Quoted for Truth. This is exactly what they are.

After somone here was charged under the Taxi laws for picking up Uber hires, And the Taxi's all went on strike and marched on Parliament House, Uber had a 500% increase in business. I think they even took out thank you ads to the Taxi Industry.

midnight rambler
12th May 2015, 10:05 PM
Indeed, you guys go ahead and embrace the unregulated 'drivers' (who ONLY deal in debit/credit cards and NOT cash).

http://gothamist.com/attachments/nyc_arts_john/042115uber.jpg
http://crimefeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/instagram_gabreillewether_uber2.jpg

http://laist.com/attachments/laist_emma/uber-receipt.jpg

http://knightnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/10799539_10205040766723801_701390880_n.jpg

http://www.whosdrivingyou.org/uploads/2/5/1/4/25145532/4355242_orig.jpg
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1997955!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_635/uber4n-5-web.jpg


http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/bb64f107af5eff46d4d7dd64b318fe3d18a88478/c=9-0-504-372&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/2015/01/06/JacksonMS/JacksonMS/635561452894120171-uber.peach.jpg

http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/assets_c/2013/12/kimberlysuberreceipt-thumb-275x376.jpg



And then this one, a TWO MINUTE ride <1/10 of a mile for $171! Holy shit! :o

http://www.arunhasablog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/2013-11-13-12_26_32-Adjusted-Uber-Ride-Receipt-dallasarun@gmail.com-Gmail.png

Glass
12th May 2015, 10:18 PM
Yes ..... Regulated taxi drivers: Taxi Driver + Sex Assault (https://www.google.com.au/search?q=taxi+driver+sex+assault)
Only 7 million 9 hundred and 90 thousand hits. Haven't read them all though so YMMV.

Admittedly some of those could be uber drivers.

Both have problems and I think those examples are just plain stupid. Who is going to get away with that? And how are they going to charge that kind of money to a debit or credit card and not have it questioned or easily reversed.

I think over time, hopefully not much time, they will get this cleaned up and people will start to give feedback on drivers so you can have some confidence when dealing with them. I don't think regular taxi services have such a feature.