Visualizing How Many Cops Are Killed On Duty And How Many People Are Killed By Cops

[Ares]

In recent months, police deaths and police killings have dominated the news — most recently, two cops were shot and killed in Mississippi and protests gripped Baltimore in the wake of Freddie Gray's death while in police custody.

Vocativ mapped out incidents where cops were killed by another person from January 1, 2014 to May 12, 2015, finding at least 102 murders:

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Meanwhile, in the same time period, Vocativ found nearly 1,500 incidents where people were killed by the police:

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http://digg.com/2015/visualizing-police-and-civilian-deaths

[EE_]

They've been busy!
Being a cop looks like a pretty safe job compared to being a citizen.

[Hitch]

Being a cop looks like a pretty safe job compared to being a citizen.

Or, they are better trained than citizens.

[Ares]

Or, they are better trained than citizens.

Citizens aren't allowed to fight back. If they take it to court the same citizen(s) that were molested are the very same ones footing the bill for damages.

[Hitch]

Citizens aren't allowed to fight back. If they take it to court the same citizen(s) that were molested are the very same ones footing the bill for damages.

In a fight, nothing matters but survival. Cops know this, and if citizens choose to try and take cops lives, they will defend themselves.

Cops take people's freedoms away, a lot of them are criminal turds who harm others, they deserve it.

I bet if you researched all the cop shootings of citizens, those 'citizens' have harmed others and made a conscious choice to try to kill that cop. Per the numbers, I bet any rational person would find the vast majority of cops justified. Imo.

[EE_]

In a fight, nothing matters but survival. Cops know this, and if citizens choose to try and take cops lives, they will defend themselves.

Cops take people's freedoms away, a lot of them are criminal turds who harm others, they deserve it.

I bet if you researched all the cop shootings of citizens, those 'citizens' have harmed others and made a conscious choice to try to kill that cop. Per the numbers, I bet any rational person would find the vast majority of cops justified. Imo.

Violent criminals where there's a victim, justifiably die. I wonder how many so called criminals die where there's no victim...petty repete offenders? More and more law breakers are trying to kill cops in self defense/survival, because they know the cops want to kill them.

[Hitch]

Violent criminals where there's a victim, justifiably die. I wonder how many so called criminals die where there's no victim...petty repete offenders? More and more law breakers are trying to kill cops in self defense/survival, because they know the cops want to kill them.

I think the media is partially to blame, the hatred of cops. I think our current administration is pushing this agenda as well.

The people that actually try to kill cops? They are desperate. They don't think cops want to kill them, they see their freedom taken away. They are not part of the fear agenda being pushed upon us, this 'us against them' mentality. Most all are not, I believe. There might be a few out there to make a point, but you have to be a certain type of person to try and take another life, not in self defense, but to be the aggressor. Thankfully, that is a very small percentage of the population.

[EE_]

I think the media is partially to blame, the hatred of cops. I think our current administration is pushing this agenda as well.

The people that actually try to kill cops? They are desperate. They don't think cops want to kill them, they see their freedom taken away. They are not part of the fear agenda being pushed upon us, this 'us against them' mentality. Most all are not, I believe. There might be a few out there to make a point, but you have to be a certain type of person to try and take another life, not in self defense, but to be the aggressor. Thankfully, that is a very small percentage of the population.

What a better way for the elite to get police working solely for them, then to train them to brutalize citizens and create the hatred between them.

[Hitch]

What a better way for the elite to get police working solely for them, then to train them to brutalize citizens and create the hatred between them.

That is thought provoking.

Folks, please accept my apology regarding LE threads on this forum. A lot of my viewpoints are anchored in the past, from my experiences, and may not be applicable in our current LE culture today.

That being said, LE wasn't trained that way from my knowledge, EE. You can't train LE to uphold the Constitution and brutalize citizens as the same time.

[EE_]

That is thought provoking.

Folks, please accept my apology regarding LE threads on this forum. A lot of my viewpoints are anchored in the past, from my experiences, and may not be applicable in our current LE culture today.

That being said, LE wasn't trained that way from my knowledge, EE. You can't train LE to uphold the Constitution and brutalize citizens as the same time.

Give them unlimited power over the people
Make them exempt from the same laws put on us
Arm them better then the military
Train them to think everyone is a criminal
Give them a hefty salary and fat pension
Great bennies and vacations

Who do you think they are protecting?

[Hitch]

Who do you think they are protecting?

They should be protecting the Constitution. By protecting that, they protect our citizens and our culture.

Now, I'm no so sure what LE is about anymore. I just remind myself, I know there's an agenda in place to make LE look bad, there's an agenda to start race wars, and with each new day those agendas are working.

[monty]

They should be protecting the Constitution. By protecting that, they protect our citizens and our culture.

Now, I'm no so sure what LE is about anymore. I just remind myself, I know there's an agenda in place to make LE look bad, there's an agenda to start race wars, and with each new day those agendas are working.


We don't operate under the Constitution any longer. The law now is the law of the sea, international commercial law. Lex mercatoria, NIL, negotiable instrument law, replaced by the UCC, Uniform Commercial Code. Since 1967 all fifty states have adopted the UCC. Our courts run operate on UCC. Hence the admiralty flag in the courtrooms. Take a look at your most recent revised state statutes. More and more it is UCC law. All crimes are commercial, including rape, murder, burglary, etc..

[monty]

See 27 CFR 72.11 Meaning of terms

unless the context otherwise requires, terms shall have the meanings ascribed in this section. Words in the plural form shall include the singular, and vice versa, and words importing the masculine gender shall include the feminine. The terms “includes” and “including” do not exclude things not enumerated which are in the same general class.


ATF Officer. An officer or employee of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF) duly authorized to perform any function relating to the administration or enforcement of this part.


Appraised value. The value placed upon seized property or carriers by the appraiser or appraisers designated for the purpose of determining whether the property or carriers may be forfeited administratively.


Carrier. A vessel, vehicle, or aircraft seized under 49 U.S.C. Chapter 11 for having been used to transport, carry, or conceal a contraband firearm or contraband cigarettes. Vessels, vehicles, or aircraft seized under other provisions of applicable laws shall be considered personal property.



Commercial crimes. Any of the following types of crimes (Federal or State): Offenses against the revenue laws; burglary; counterfeiting; forgery; kidnapping; larceny; robbery; illegal sale or possession of deadly weapons; prostitution (including soliciting, procuring, pandering, white slaving, keeping house of ill fame, and like offenses); extortion; swindling and confidence games; and attempting to commit, conspiring to commit, or compounding any of the foregoing crimes. Addiction to narcotic drugs and use of marihuana will be treated as if such were commercial crime.



Contraband cigarettes. Any quantity of cigarettes in excess of 60,000, if:
(a) The cigarettes bear no evidence of the payment of applicable State cigarette taxes in the State where the cigarettes are found;

[Hitch]

CFRs only apply to individuals who either fall under maritime law, or are somehow related to industry based upon their professions.

In short, your average citizen CFR does not apply. Your beat cop on the street, does not arrest anyone for breaking a CFR. I could be wrong but, this is what I know. I will try to find a definite answer to this...

[monty]

The UCC is commercial law. All states have adopted the UCC. Using negotiable instruments subjects one to the UCC. The negotiable instruments cross state lines so dear old Uncle Sam uses invokes interstate commerce clause to gain jurisdiction.

That is way I understand it, but I am by no means an authority.


Edit: Your beat cop is probably arresting people under the state adopted UCC. Still commercial law.

But you enter into interstate commerce with certain negotiable instruments. Traffic tickets are negotiable instruments (presentments).

[Hitch]

The UCC is commercial law. All states have adopted the UCC. Using negotiable instruments subjects one to the UCC. The negotiable instruments cross state lines so dear old Uncle Sam uses invokes interstate commerce clause to gain jurisdiction.

That is way I understand it, but I am by no means an authority.


Edit: Your beat cop is probably arresting people under the state adopted UCC. Still commercial law.

But you enter into interstate commerce with certain negotiable instruments. Traffic tickets are negotiable instruments (presentments).

I appreciate your insight. So CFR and UCC is interchangeable?

My experience with CFR's is anyone trying to look anything up, is just at a complete disadvantage. The CFR books are a complete disaster. Try looking up how many fire extinguishers are required on a 60 foot vessel that can hold 50 passengers. Good luck, yes that was a test question.

Your posts in this thread make me realize that I have a lot to learn, and there's a lot I don't know.

[monty]

I appreciate your insight. So CFR and UCC is interchangeable?

My experience with CFR's is anyone trying to look anything up, is just at a complete disadvantage. The CFR books are a complete disaster. Try looking up how many fire extinguishers are required on a 60 foot vessel that can hold 50 passengers. Good luck, yes that was a test question.

Your posts in this thread make me realize that I have a lot to learn, and there's a lot I don't know.


I am not sure if they are interchangeable or not, but an NHP State Trooper cited me under 49 CFR. The ticket was in the County Justice Court, the violation was 49 CFR. I was cited for an expired CDL physical card.

[Hitch]

I am not sure if they are interchangeable or not, but an NHP State Trooper cited me under 49 CFR. The ticket was in the County Justice Court, the violation was 49 CFR. I was cited for an expired CDL physical card.

I went though 27 weeks of police academy in 06. Was sworn in for 16 weeks after. Never heard of a CFR at that time. It was all VC and PC. I never even knew what a CFR was until I got my boat captain's license years later....

I don't know what's going on in today's LE academies, but if CFRs are part of it, it's not good.

[monty]

I went though 27 weeks of police academy in 06. Was sworn in for 16 weeks after. Never heard of a CFR at that time. It was all VC and PC. I never even knew what a CFR was until I got my boat captain's license years later....

I don't know what's going on in today's LE academies, but if CFRs are part of it, it's not good.


I agree, it is not good.

[Heisenberg]

They should be protecting the Constitution. By protecting that, they protect our citizens and our culture.

Now, I'm no so sure what LE is about anymore. I just remind myself, I know there's an agenda in place to make LE look bad, there's an agenda to start race wars, and with each new day those agendas are working.Every cop has a choice. Write $500 traffic tickets that is in fact extortion, or say no and risk losing their taxpayer funded happy retirement. They all choose to write the ticket, and often commit perjury for it. The reason cops are still respected is criminals (*see niggers) are worse in every way.

[Hitch]

Every cop has a choice. Write $500 traffic tickets that is in fact extortion, or say no and risk losing their taxpayer funded happy retirement. They all choose to write the ticket,

Your taxes pay their salary, regardless of how many tickets they write. We didn't have to write any. There was no quota. They wanted to see 2 traffic stops, or 2 walking stops, per shift. No citations needed, just stops.

1 walking stop could lead to a felony arrest though.

Writing tickets wastes time. If your beat is going to hell, the last thing you want to do is waste time writing tickets.