Computers got to love them!

[Dogman]

Much cussing at laptop! Posting with tablet!

Hard drives dying, cussing its dead , replacing, restoring, updating,losing, recovering, cussing self out because not pulling a backup in ages! Spend hours/days and more hours and days getting close to old setup, but never the same. . More cussing!

In time welcome to new setup reality!

Got to love them!

;)

[Ponce]

You are not supposed to take a dump on them......or to overload them by downloading junk.....my comp is 78% empty......only use it to read and research......but not now with the stupid land line that I am using....would be nice if there was no more comp.

V

[EE_]

Much cussing at laptop! Posting with tablet!

Hard drives dying, cussing its dead , replacing, restoring, updating,losing, recovering, cussing self out because not pulling a backup in ages! Spend hours/days and more hours and days getting close to old setup, but never the same. . More cussing!

In time welcome to new setup reality!

Got to love them!

;)

I just ordered this one. Any input? I started out looking at an ACER 17" laptop/notepad

http://dri2.img.digitalrivercontent.net/Storefront/Company/msintl/images/English/en-INTL-Dell-Inspiron-3043-i3043-5002BLK-Black-RCF-00437/en-INTL-L-Dell-Inspiron-3043-i3043-5002BLK-Black-RCF-00437-RM2-mnco.jpg

Dell Inspiron 20 i3043-5002BLK Signature Edition All-in-One
$399.00
(was $499.00) save $100.00
19.5-inch HD+ touchscreen
Intel Pentium N3540
4GB memory/500GB HDD
4-cell battery

Tech specs

Display
19.5 in HD+ LED backlit (1600 x 900), 10-finger multi-touch support
Processor
Intel Pentium N3540 2.16 GHz with Intel Burst Technology up to 2.66 GHz
Memory
4GB DDR3L 1333 MHz
Hard drive size
500GB 5400 RPM HDD
Operating system
Windows 8.1, 64-bit
PC type
All-in-One
Optical drive
None
Media drive
4-in-1 memory card reader (SD/SDHC/SDXC/MMC)
Audio
Waves MaxxAudio
Video
Intel HD Graphics with shared graphics memory
Ports
3 USB 2.0 • HDMI in • Headphone output/Microphone input combo • LAN (10/100)
Battery
4-cell*
Camera
720p webcam
Wireless
802.11b/g/n (Miracast enabled)
Bluetooth
Bluetooth 4.0
Dimensions
19.27 x 12.31 x 1.05 in (489.45 x 312.67 x 26.67 mm)
Weight
8.66 lbs (3.92 kg)
Color
Black
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/productID.313304600?VID=313304700?WT.mc_id=us_data feed_cse_amazon&CA_6C15C=120177510000008345

[Dogman]

I just ordered this one. Any input? I started out looking at an ACER 17" laptop/notepad

Dell Inspiron 20 i3043-5002BLK Signature Edition All-in-One
$399.00
(was $499.00) save $100.00
19.5-inch HD+ touchscreen
Intel Pentium N3540
4GB memory/500GB HDD
4-cell battery

Tech specs

Display
19.5 in HD+ LED backlit (1600 x 900), 10-finger multi-touch support
Processor
Intel Pentium N3540 2.16 GHz with Intel Burst Technology up to 2.66 GHz
Memory
4GB DDR3L 1333 MHz
Hard drive size
500GB 5400 RPM HDD
Operating system
Windows 8.1, 64-bit
PC type
All-in-One
Optical drive
None
Media drive
4-in-1 memory card reader (SD/SDHC/SDXC/MMC)
Audio
Waves MaxxAudio
Video
Intel HD Graphics with shared graphics memory
Ports
3 USB 2.0 • HDMI in • Headphone output/Microphone input combo • LAN (10/100)
Battery
4-cell*
Camera
720p webcam
Wireless
802.11b/g/n (Miracast enabled)
Bluetooth
Bluetooth 4.0
Dimensions
19.27 x 12.31 x 1.05 in (489.45 x 312.67 x 26.67 mm)
Weight
8.66 lbs (3.92 kg)
Color
Black
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/productID.313304600?VID=313304700?WT.mc_id=us_data feed_cse_amazon&CA_6C15C=120177510000008345
I do not care or like anything win 8! The spec's sound alright tho!

I use win 7 pro and love it, IMO they got it right with this one, it is what vista should have been!

Looks good! I need to get away from laptop's and go back to boxes, ....Naw.. Takes up room!

I do not care for Dell personally, but they make some good machines.. Sometimes! ;)


More cussing used a storage drive to trouble shoot, while loading the op system for temp use until I get a new drive.

At the very last steps of getting things so maybe I can pull a restore from a backup, the dam cuss cuss cuss power went down here, still down am on gen power!

Had to start the whole dam thing again!

At least doing this stuff for over 30 years I am used to spending hours days and sometimes weeks! Remember low level formatting 40 meg RLL drives could take over 24 hours back in the day.....;)

Cussing dam storms!! Plus hardware!!

Got to love them!

;)

[Dogman]

You are not supposed to take a dump on them......or to overload them by downloading junk.....my comp is 78% empty......only use it to read and research......but not now with the stupid land line that I am using....would be nice if there was no more comp.

V

Friend when a hard drive decides to crap out sometimes they give no warning and then even Kay y does not helps the butt hurt, has nothing to do on how full the drive is!

I suspect heat killed mine?

Good to see you posting amigo !

[Dogman]

Very good reminder to those of us that let things get slack!

Backups are our friends, but restoring to the point of using a backup with a different drive is a pain, cuss, cuss but part of the wonderful world of computers!

Waiting to see if this box can reboot after all the crap, then I will know a new drive is needed, was a 750 gig may go to a one gig just for the giggles.

Thank god for tablets for internet fixes!!!

:)

If they that read this, pull a backup and also make sure your recovery disks are current!

Just saying!

Gotta love computers but they will bite out just when you really need them! They are out of mind hardware wise until they dump on you! Or like women take them for granted and then watch out! ;)

Feeling all sorts of warm and fuzzy here, still on gen power!

[Horn]

Laptop's no place to do anything you hope to have more than 4 years. Most dont make it more than 3.

My desktops still spinnin since 2006. Cross fingers...

[Horn]

The new solid state flash drives are the way to go next me thinks no need for rpm anymore

[Dogman]

The new solid state flash drives are the way to go next me thinks no need for rpm anymore

Agree!

Have not looked at them in a long time, wonder if they suffer with the write/rewrite cycle lifetime weakness of the past!

Plus the cost pet gig?

[Dogman]

Laptop's no place to do anything you hope to have more than 4 years. Most dont make it more than 3.

My desktops still spinnin since 2006. Cross fingers...

Would be hard pressed to use a box and all where I use my laptop! Plus size of boxes makes parts are easy to replace, bad is size of that box and its vitals!

Most laptop's can be repaired by the user, but! ! ! ! Not cut and dry easy as a box!

Ham handed need not apply!

[Horn]

Agree!

Have not looked at them in a long time, wonder if they suffer with the write/rewrite cycle lifetime weakness of the past!

Plus the cost pet gig?

Was about to import one here a couple months back, but ofcourse with technology tax, more pressing commodity items stole the limelight.

Yes i import from U.S. export built in China.

[Dogman]

Was about to import one here a couple months back, but ofcourse with technology tax, more pressing commodity items stole the limelight.

Still gold plated prices then!

;)

[Serpo]

I just ordered this one. Any input? I started out looking at an ACER 17" laptop/notepad

http://dri2.img.digitalrivercontent.net/Storefront/Company/msintl/images/English/en-INTL-Dell-Inspiron-3043-i3043-5002BLK-Black-RCF-00437/en-INTL-L-Dell-Inspiron-3043-i3043-5002BLK-Black-RCF-00437-RM2-mnco.jpg

Dell Inspiron 20 i3043-5002BLK Signature Edition All-in-One
$399.00
(was $499.00) save $100.00
19.5-inch HD+ touchscreen
Intel Pentium N3540
4GB memory/500GB HDD
4-cell battery

Tech specs

Display
19.5 in HD+ LED backlit (1600 x 900), 10-finger multi-touch support
Processor
Intel Pentium N3540 2.16 GHz with Intel Burst Technology up to 2.66 GHz
Memory
4GB DDR3L 1333 MHz
Hard drive size
500GB 5400 RPM HDD
Operating system
Windows 8.1, 64-bit
PC type
All-in-One
Optical drive
None
Media drive
4-in-1 memory card reader (SD/SDHC/SDXC/MMC)
Audio
Waves MaxxAudio
Video
Intel HD Graphics with shared graphics memory
Ports
3 USB 2.0 • HDMI in • Headphone output/Microphone input combo • LAN (10/100)
Battery
4-cell*
Camera
720p webcam
Wireless
802.11b/g/n (Miracast enabled)
Bluetooth
Bluetooth 4.0
Dimensions
19.27 x 12.31 x 1.05 in (489.45 x 312.67 x 26.67 mm)
Weight
8.66 lbs (3.92 kg)
Color
Black
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/productID.313304600?VID=313304700?WT.mc_id=us_data feed_cse_amazon&CA_6C15C=120177510000008345

First word ..........DELL...............sorry fail............

[Horn]

Still gold plated prices then!

;)

No i found one on newegg that was maybe 20% more bit for bit. Well yeah by the time it reached me would have been 220% more.

They trump spinner drives anymore fo read write.

[EE_]

First word ..........DELL...............sorry fail............

What do you suggest in the $400 range. Don't say Apple.

I'm not a gamer. For surfing, research, youtube, ebay

[Serpo]

What do you suggest in the $400 range. Don't say Apple.

Its probably a good deal , I dont like Dell thats all.


I payed my friend 700$ for all the bits to a desk top , he assembled it and now I have a 2500$ computer.

No brand name

[Horn]

Dell were actually a quality brand at one point,

problem was its soo long ago nobody remembers when that was...

[Dogman]

No i found one on newegg that was maybe 20% more bit for bit. Well yeah by the time it reached me would have been 220% more.

They trump spinner drives anymore fo read write.

Nice but , and I refuse to look, a one Terra size spinner vs a solid state

;)

[EE_]

Do you guys like the 10pt touch screens?

[Dogman]

What do you suggest in the $400 range. Don't say Apple.

I'm not a gamer. For surfing, research, youtube, ebay

Now it is a crap shoot on the lower end of the scale, even the higher scales!

Best to look at buyer reviews, you are looking for durability in lifetime and use before it craps out on you. Tho most all the name brands are sorta easy to repair with parts available at reasonable prices when they do take a dump on you!

Consumer item, made to last maybe as long as the mfg warranty holds today. So when it breaks they can sell another one!

Tho MTBF is now better than in the past!

:)

[Horn]

Wtf does a dogman need a terraflop on a laptop that will only last 3 years for anyway?

[Serpo]

my operating system is solid state

[Dogman]

Wtf does a dogman need a terraflop on a laptop that will only last 3 years for anyway?

Bite Mel

;)

[Horn]

Unless ofcourse he's recording all our posts and forwarding them to someone... lol

[Dogman]

Unless ofcourse he's recording all our posts and forwarding them to someone... lol

Rabble rouser, go find a busy highway and play in it! ;)

BTW

Bite me!

;)

Another BTW

Try storing full movies not stripped for size and albums too boot

Disk hungry!

[Hitch]

What do you suggest in the $400 range. Don't say Apple.

Did you get your Apple watch delivered yet?

[Horn]

Get a desktop dogman, no wonder u blew the smoke out of yur laptop...

There's no laptop alive thats going to accept digitized versions of yur old neil diamond analogs...

[Dogman]

Dam updates take forever plus one day!

Of course my backups were not recognized by this clear installation... Sucks...but totally normal here!

Will setup this temp disk as best updated and configuration as I can for use until the new one gets here!

But have an ace to use, when I get my new drive I will have a better and quicker chance to get it up and running by creating a boot primary cloned partition! Then set this temp drive aside as a working save my ass disk external boot able usb drive.

Got to love them!

[Dogman]

Get a desktop dogman, no wonder u blew the smoke out of yur laptop...

There's no laptop alive thats going to accept digitized versions of yur old neil diamond analogs...

Dam I do have one of his albums!

Bite me horn!

Grin!

);)

[Horn]

Last thing i did here was to get a 32" samsung LED, and put it on a swivel mount into the wall.

I can almost swing it about 80 degrees to view he ripped films from the living room couch, than swing it back over th desk when posting nonsense and workin.

[Dogman]

Last thing i did here was to get a 32" samsung LED, and put it on a swivel mount into the wall.

I can almost swing it about 80 degrees to view he ripped films from the living room couch, than swing it back over th desk when posting nonsense and workin.

Do not care anymore to be locked into one place or area! Tho my laptop , main system stays in the same place.

Since I have discovered tablets I use them mainly for surfing on the net and such. With a Bluetooth link between them for media and stuff. Maybe some day a larger monitor here but I like moving around, stay in one place my bones start hurting!

;)

[Hitch]

Dogman, listen to Horn, don't report any of us to any .gov goons. That's the last thing we need to get pestered with.

[Dogman]

Dogman, listen to Horn, don't report any of us to any .gov goons. That's the last thing we need to get pestered with.

What a paranoid bunch , the drive that failed was a 750 gig that was maybe 6 tenths used, a one terra was in some ways cheaper than another 750!

Tho adding up my external storage drives laying around is close to 7 Terra bites with room to spare! :)

Been into computers for over 30 years and I try and archive most of my old software because I can never know when it may become useful when I run across old systems that are still running.

Take a deep breath and exhale hitch nothing to freak about!

:)

[Horn]

I often post to u from the cell phone,

anyone else I might take the time to load a video from the desktop.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rz92JWtS50

[Dogman]

I often post to u from the cell phone,

anyone else I might take the time to load a video from the desktop.

YouTube Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rz92JWtS50 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rz92JWtS50)

Have the vinyl album, all of my vinyl got transferred to digital to save wear and tear to preserve the original, hundreds of pound's of cuts tho not into tunes like I was in the day nor a turn table in my system anymore!

One of the several reasons methinks my ears ring today! ;(

[Horn]

Sure, the aim of all modern man's achievements has been to backup Dogman's vinyl SWEET album.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6PY-1JaZss

:)

[Dogman]

Sure, the aim of all modern man's achievements has been to backup Dogman's vinyl SWEET album.

YouTube Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6PY-1JaZss (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6PY-1JaZss)

:)

Iol !

Again bite me!

;)

[Glass]

Dell is not so bad a product. It seems that some brands are better in some countries than others.

Toshiba is very good. I have had several notebooks and they last with very few issues. I may have replaced a hard drive in one. Another one I dropped and smashed the screen but the units themselves go until Windows bloats so much they run like dogs. Then your are 5 years down the road anyway.

But I read that in the US, the Toshiba are considered rubbish.

Now. There are different levels of product. I don't buy computers/notebooks from big box stores. The reason is, is that they are consuimer products and build to a price. Plastic chassis and cheap hard drives etc. In my experience and I said before the Warranty is the best indicator of the life of a computer product or component. If the manufacturer will only back it for 12 months then that is the expected life of it. Any more is a bonus or a problem depending on what you do when the 12 months is up.

If its a HDD and you are not either replacing it or backing up frequently after 12 month mark, you are going to have issues when it craps out. You can buy hard drives with 3 year warranty. So do that if you can afford it.

Toshiba make business grade units that you wont get at the big box shop, likewise business computer dealers are probably not going to have access to the product lines the big box guys have.

Dell is basically the same. I think they are a little bit slower than a PC built by your local computer shop but if you buy from the business range it should last you.

HP is the same as the other guys. Two or more range of product although I would choose Lenovo over HP notebooks. HP Business desktops are still ok.

Lenovo make good stuff, again if you buy right. They have long been a favourite for companies with big road warrior sales forces. Due to the solid chassis and well isolated internals. Not sexzee but reliable and solid.

Never ever buy Acer.

[Half Sense]

I'm still running XP with all the Microsoft stuff stripped out (http://www.litepc.com/). Runs like a champ on a fast Samsung SSD. I also recently bought a router with USB 3.0 ports. Plugged in a fast 64 GB flash drive and it appears as a network drive on all the PCs in the house. I run a script to this flash drive from each PC, backing up the full C drive of each PC every night.

[EE_]

I'm still running XP with all the Microsoft stuff stripped out (http://www.litepc.com/). Runs like a champ on a fast Samsung SSD. I also recently bought a router with USB 3.0 ports. Plugged in a fast 64 GB flash drive and it appears as a network drive on all the PCs in the house. I run a script to this flash drive from each PC, backing up the full C drive of each PC every night.

Well that's interesting!

[Dogman]

Eeeeeeeeahhhuhhucccccrrrraaaapppp!

Like pulling teeth with a bench vice from a pissed off gorilla! Dam things work long enough that one forgets crap plus mixed disks!! Installing the new drive!

Know I have a mix of CD/DVD disks that are ready as skeet targets! ;)

Still got to love them

Despite my case of CRS! :(

[EE_]

I just ordered this one. Any input? I started out looking at an ACER 17" laptop/notepad

http://dri2.img.digitalrivercontent.net/Storefront/Company/msintl/images/English/en-INTL-Dell-Inspiron-3043-i3043-5002BLK-Black-RCF-00437/en-INTL-L-Dell-Inspiron-3043-i3043-5002BLK-Black-RCF-00437-RM2-mnco.jpg

Dell Inspiron 20 i3043-5002BLK Signature Edition All-in-One
$399.00
(was $499.00) save $100.00
19.5-inch HD+ touchscreen
Intel Pentium N3540
4GB memory/500GB HDD
4-cell battery

Tech specs

Display
19.5 in HD+ LED backlit (1600 x 900), 10-finger multi-touch support
Processor
Intel Pentium N3540 2.16 GHz with Intel Burst Technology up to 2.66 GHz
Memory
4GB DDR3L 1333 MHz
Hard drive size
500GB 5400 RPM HDD
Operating system
Windows 8.1, 64-bit
PC type
All-in-One
Optical drive
None
Media drive
4-in-1 memory card reader (SD/SDHC/SDXC/MMC)
Audio
Waves MaxxAudio
Video
Intel HD Graphics with shared graphics memory
Ports
3 USB 2.0 • HDMI in • Headphone output/Microphone input combo • LAN (10/100)
Battery
4-cell*
Camera
720p webcam
Wireless
802.11b/g/n (Miracast enabled)
Bluetooth
Bluetooth 4.0
Dimensions
19.27 x 12.31 x 1.05 in (489.45 x 312.67 x 26.67 mm)
Weight
8.66 lbs (3.92 kg)
Color
Black
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/productID.313304600?VID=313304700?WT.mc_id=us_data feed_cse_amazon&CA_6C15C=120177510000008345

Okay, I got the new puter today and so far I love it. I like the touch screen too. Easy to carry around without having to take the keyboard and mouse with it. So far so good!

[Dogman]

Okay, I got the new puter today and so far I love it. I like the touch screen too. Easy to carry around without having to take the keyboard and mouse with it. So far so good!

Good you are happy with your new toy enjoy it!

Think I am seeing life and hope in my HD replacement! Had to first load the factory image. Straight recovery with disk image and backup did not fly with the new drive which was blank with no partitions!

Got to love them!

Still it seems to takes as long as elephant's mating and seeing the results two years later!

[Horn]

Sure, a new Dell is always exciting until u get that black screen issue.

just messin with u EE_ good luck wit yur new maxi-pad, hope it doesn't need too much adjustment. :)

[Dogman]

Sure, a new Dell is always exciting until u get that black screen issue.

just messin with u EE_ good luck wit yur new maxi-pad, hope it doesn't need too much adjustment. :)

Maxipad?

LMFAO !

;)

[EE_]

Sure, a new Dell is always exciting until u get that black screen issue.

just messin with u EE_ good luck wit yur new maxi-pad, hope it doesn't need too much adjustment. :)

oh shit, whats this?

http://cdn.overclock.net/9/9e/599x452px-9e8eeb5f_1461674745ivOv.png

[Serpo]

oh shit, whats this?

http://cdn.overclock.net/9/9e/599x452px-9e8eeb5f_1461674745ivOv.png


Its called ...................just the beginning................


just kidding good luck with your new brain..............

[Horn]

Was that George Carlin who said something about the car door being f'n open or f'n closed,

None of this inbetween shit! lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJZPviq5OxQ

[Dogman]

Eeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaah !

Grumble grumble !

Do and redo wash and repeat!

It sucks when the last time doing this was long enough that dumb mistakes are made because the exact procedures are forgotten! Make a boo boo and start from the beginning again, but this time may be will get it right. Last time today thought I was done and set! But got my first virus in more years than I can remember! Or something in the install triggered it!

One that screwed up .exe program associations so nothing runs except media player. Click any program and media player opens!

No hope but go back to factory image, then my win pro image backup. Twice because this last time I selected the factory image and not my backup image, and once started there is no turning back ! :(

Still gots to love them ! (Said with gritted teeth) !

;)

Maybe this time of many I will get it right!

[Horn]

I had that happen to my desktop a couple times, i went out and bought another hard drive.

I'm only up to 4 hard drives so far since 2006, they're all running in there.

knockwood

[Dogman]

I had that happen to my desktop a couple times, i went out and bought another hard drive.

I'm only up to 4 hard drives so far since 2006, they're all running in there.

knockwood

Shsss !

I think I got it right this time ! ;)

Pulling a backup and image on the new working drive/system now. Its almost finished. Finally after many try,s having to relearn what I used to know, now if I had to do it again it would only take hours and not days. Think now not a virus but the java that I had to install for one of my camera programs that screwed up my file association tables? :( along with shooting myself in the foot, multiple times !

Got to love them, even if you want to hammer them on an anvil sometimes !

Grin !

[Horn]

I think the world was better backed up with triplicate forms in the paper age.

[Dogman]

I think the world was better backed up with triplicate forms in the paper age. In someways you are correct, simpler and slower times that some would also call richer in a mental wellness and cultural way.

But no amount of paper has the versatilely and wow factor of digital one's and zero digits !

;)

[Dogman]

Woo Hooo!

My Internet provider has upgraded my default speed from 15mbs to 50mbs free a few min ago at no charge!

Already had a modem that could handle it !

Wow !

[Horn]

I crossed the border into Nicaragua, they still charge for the cantidad of bytes here, not how fast they arrive.

[Dogman]

I crossed the border into Nicaragua, they still charge for the cantidad of bytes here, not how fast they arrive.

My monthly cap is somewhere around 350 gig a month at abt 55 bucks, so I am paying in a way 55 bucks a month for around 350 gigs download use no matter the speed, but now at 50mbps top's but most web sites do not have the bandwidth.

Tho it is nice at some sites to click on a download and zip it is done, compared to my old speed.

[Neuro]

My monthly cap is somewhere around 350 gig a month at abt 55 bucks, so I am paying in a way 55 bucks a month for around 350 gigs download use no matter the speed, but now at 50mbps top's but most web sites do not have the bandwidth.

Tho it is nice at some sites to click on a download and zip it is done, compared to my old speed.
Isn't it odd that with greater speed most would spend more time on their computer, instead of less...

[Dogman]

Isn't it odd that with greater speed most would spend more time on their computer, instead of less...

Sure users do not spend forever plus one day downloading! :)
They can move on.

With slower speed's downloading large file's you can turn visibly older waiting for the download to finish !

Grin !

[Dogman]

I have used many imaging/backup software programs from windows built in program which sucks big donkeys that may or not work, to other programs. Some that seem you need a university degree to use them because they are so complex or seem so.

This round of fixing my system I looked and found a reliable (works and is Timex simple to use) program to save my ass the next time a hard drive crapes out. In the course of rebuilding I made mistakes that forced me to do a major recovery trying to get my system back to where I wanted it.

This program did the job, I had to re-save my ass several times rebuilding and this program was sweet, besides that it is quick and does not take a year plus one day to do the job, unlike windows backup (when it works) and others like it.

Highly recommend plus it is free !

http://download.cnet.com/Macrium-Reflect-Free/3000-2242_4-10845728.html#editorsreview

[Cebu_4_2]

I have used many imaging/backup software programs from windows built in program which sucks big donkeys that may or not work, to other programs. Some that seem you need a university degree to use them because they are so complex or seem so.

This round of fixing my system I looked and found a reliable (works and is Timex simple to use) program to save my ass the next time a hard drive crapes out. In the course of rebuilding I made mistakes that forced me to do a major recovery trying to get my system back to where I wanted it.

This program did the job, I had to re-save my ass several times rebuilding and this program was sweet, besides that it is quick and does not take a year plus one day to do the job, unlike windows backup (when it works) and others like it.

Highly recommend plus it is free !

http://download.cnet.com/Macrium-Reflect-Free/3000-2242_4-10845728.html#editorsreview

I used that as backup once, I would rather clone my C drive than have a backup of this:

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7597&stc=1

WD used to have a floppy to clone your drive when you bought a new one. Took forever but you get an identical copy of what you want instead of compressed mystery files. That is what I want to do so I have no down time, just boot into the backup drive and clone it back to a new drive once it arrives. Any way to do this now?

[Dogman]

I used that as backup once, I would rather clone my C drive than have a backup of this:

WD used to have a floppy to clone your drive when you bought a new one. Took forever but you get an identical copy of what you want instead of compressed mystery files. That is what I want to do so I have no down time, just boot into the backup drive and clone it back to a new drive once it arrives. Any way to do this now?

Was talking more about making a drive image to a external drive or second data drive on a laptop.

I am not familiar with cloning, doesn't that require a second n
Same size disk?

[Jewboo]

The new solid state flash drives are the way to go next me thinks no need for rpm anymore




https://static.tweakers.net/ext/f/o04bEjs8FMWd1rcTJhlLErGu/full.png



:rolleyes:

[Cebu_4_2]

Was talking more about making a drive image to a external drive or second data drive on a laptop.

I am not familiar with cloning, doesn't that require a second n
Same size disk?

Yes, I have 3 drives in my PC. No laptop involved. I have the main drive C: and D: is where I store all my program data files, bookmarks, email etc. Basically it's a crude backup itself. The other drive is a dedicated backup. I want to be able to clone both on separate drives. Was not a problem when I ran 3 different machines because I would backup everything amongst those. Now I only run 1 PC so it is a worry in the back of my mind. I am wondering if I can put the old WD clone software on a cd and boot from that to clone things... Now that sounds like an idea I just thought of. Hmmm.

[Cebu_4_2]

https://static.tweakers.net/ext/f/o04bEjs8FMWd1rcTJhlLErGu/full.png





Holy fuckballs that doesn't look like the way to go at this time!

Edit: Samsung is perfect? Perhaps they made this chart?

[Dogman]

Just realized all is needed is a partition for the clone.

But sadly laptops are limited to the number of drives, unless they are external.

[Cebu_4_2]

Just realized all is needed is a partition for the clone.

But sadly laptops are limited to the number of drives, unless they are external.

Tried the Norton Partition Magic crap with a big FAIL.

[Glass]

gparted is a good way to repartition. Just need to think it through as you go. pretty sure you can get bootable CD's for it.

cloning, ghost32 or macrium reflect work well. You used to be able to find ghost images out there that didn't need licensing. I think macrium might cost a few bucks.

[Dogman]

gparted is a good way to repartition. Just need to think it through as you go. pretty sure you can get bootable CD's for it.

cloning, ghost32 or macrium reflect work well. You used to be able to find ghost images out there that didn't need licensing. I think macrium might cost a few bucks.

Reflect is still free and it is what I have been using, I like it. I am only interested in the imaging part which worked for me, several times during this system rebuild saving my ass because of my brain farts installing and setting up programs due to crs, its fast, and more importantly it works. Had to make a down load for a utility from Microsoft to make the reflect recovery disk using the windows preinstallation environment to make a live cd/dvd but reflect handled that part.

Recommended, first imaging program I have used that is so straight forward and compared to the built in mircosoft imaging package in speed, well there IS no comparison.

Free is good, and even better when it works well.

[Jewboo]

I have the main drive C: and D: is where I store all my program data files, bookmarks, email etc....The other drive is a dedicated backup....Hmmm.



http://media.bestofmicro.com/7200_rpm-Terabyte-2-5-Notebook,T-A-379486-22.jpg

$64 at Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/HGST-Travelstar-2-5-Inch-Internal-0J22423/dp/B00B4QESVQ/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1433642956&sr=1-4&keywords=2.5%22+hard+drive&refinements=p_76%3A2661625011%2Cp_n_feature_keywor ds_three_browse-bin%3A4990425011)


1,000GB
7200rpm
2.5"



I run two of these in my Shuttle desktop. They run ten degrees cooler than the old 3.5" drives. I used Acronis Disk Director 12 to divide both into three partitions:


C: 50GB for the OS
D: 150GB for my Data files
F: 800GB for my MP4 movies

M: 50GB for the OS Backup Restore Image
N: 150GB Clone of my Data files
O: 800GB Clone of my MP4 movies


I don't use any cloning software. I just use Windows Explorer and drag folders back and forth between the two hard drives. If one physical drive dies everything is still on the other drive. Poor man's RAID array...lol.

:)

[Shami-Amourae]

A really good solution for a backup system/on the run system (grab the drive and go in an emergency):

$24.99 External Enclosure. Just unscrew, plop your hard drive in, and rescrew up. Plug and play.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004AA4E8K
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41gxQBVukGL.jpg


$95.99
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008JJLZ7G
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I've used this setup for years. It's very effective. You can leave it connected like a normal hard drive on your desk pernamently, or use it temporarily. It has a fan to keep it cool and you get the reliability/stability of an internal hard drive. These enclosures can handle hard drives up to 4 GB I think and you're connecting to eSata so it's basically the same speed as the internally connected hard drives.

[expat4ever]

I dont have a clue wtf anyofyall is talking bout. I bought a 300 POS from wal mat 5 years ago. Figured if I had to replace it every year it was worth 300 bucks. Lately it was running like shit so my neighbor came and reformatted and reinstalled the OS. Runs better than new IMO. I think I am running windows 7 or XP. Whatever it is I like it.

[Dogman]

I dont have a clue wtf anyofyall is talking bout. I bought a 300 POS from wal mat 5 years ago. Figured if I had to replace it every year it was worth 300 bucks. Lately it was running like shit so my neighbor came and reformatted and reinstalled the OS. Runs better than new IMO. I think I am running windows 7 or XP. Whatever it is I like it.

Maybe or not, if it is that old!

Hardware compatibility may bite you in the ass, laptops are the worst because of fixed hardware. At least a desk top things can be replaced/upgraded

Windows is notorious at making some hardware obsolete as far as compatibility goes!

Also hardware makers want to sell their latest and greatest, and may or not update the drivers of their older stuff. So it forces users to buy new,, good for profits and keeping their doors open.

Sorry, reread your post and I responded thinking you wanted to upgrade your operating system, using your present computer.

Both XP and win7 are good op systems. And a heated argument can get going debating which is the better one in a instant!

Personally I like win7 better, by a slim margin.

[Glass]

I think laptops are ok if you keep the original OS or the next one that comes along. Beyond that you are going to hit hardware problems. Desktops are slightly better, you might be able to extend it to 2 further OS releases but again, beyond that it gets difficult. Hard ware will evolve and eventually even a desktop will hit the obsolescence wall.

backups are the key. You can do like Shami. Its a good option as you get the speed missing from USB. And you can redeploy old drives as backup drives if you want to. Although don't use ones that are more than a couple years old unless you can bear to lose the contents. Portable USB drives are very cheap now as well and a no brainer plug and play option for people, including those less technical minded.

[Horn]

Edit: Samsung is perfect? Perhaps they made this chart?

Samsung is the only manuf. that builds everything in those units. Everyone else gets their scraps. the percentage returned or rma'd probably has to do more with consumer replacement ignorance than manuf.

Wonder what percentage is of regular spun hard drive failures are for year on year?

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7599&stc=1

[Dogman]

I think laptops are ok if you keep the original OS or the next one that comes along. Beyond that you are going to hit hardware problems. Desktops are slightly better, you might be able to extend it to 2 further OS releases but again, beyond that it gets difficult. Hard ware will evolve and eventually even a desktop will hit the obsolescence wall.

backups are the key. You can do like Shami. Its a good option as you get the speed missing from USB. And you can redeploy old drives as backup drives if you want to. Although don't use ones that are more than a couple years old unless you can bear to lose the contents. Portable USB drives are very cheap now as well and a no brainer plug and play option for people, including those less technical minded.

It was one of my external hard drives that saved my bacon until I got this new one. When the hard drive failed I took the drive out of one of my usb external drive housings and installed it in the laptop. Then I rebuilt my op system from my factory disks and using my key that I stored I pulled the upgrade from the Microsoft site to get back to win7 pro. Then reinstalled my programs from scratch where I had to. Also found the crashed drive only lost the ability to boot, everything else was still there, so I was able to use the usb external sata interface to connect to it and transfer all my stuff that I could from it to the new drive, and now I am thinking of using that drive as a usb external storage drive, did some tests and it has come up clean, somehow just the boot record/sector got corrupted.

By the time the new 1 terabyte got here several days later, I was ready to install it by making an image of the save my ass drive first then installing the new drive then restoring the image to it.

Once done, I stuck a label on the drive I used to bridge the gap until the new one got here and will keep it.

Now if and when the new drive fails, I can take the save my ass drive and stick it in, it is fully boot-able and ready to go, it will be a ready to go plug and play drive that will save me time if I want to go that way. Or I can restore to it my newest image, but I like the ideal of having that drive on the shelf, just in case all else fails.

External usb drives it seems can save your ass in more way than one in a pinch.

[Horn]

Check this thing out a 256gb SD card, I had no idea i could carry around that much info in my wallet.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178706

[Jewboo]

A really good solution for a backup system/on the run system (grab the drive and go in an emergency):





http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61%2BtlCFKvBL._SL1000_.jpg


$40 Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/MiniPro-eSATA-6Gbps-External-Enclosure/dp/B003XEZ33Y/ref=pd_sim_147_5?ie=UTF8&refRID=1BPX1JYJS01ZSKZ053H2)




I'm happier with the 2.5" size now. Pocket-able. Runs cooler.

:)

[Cebu_4_2]

Check this thing out a 256gb SD card, I had no idea i could carry around that much info in my wallet.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178706

Return Policies This item is covered by Newegg.com's Standard Return Policy (http://kb.newegg.com/Policies/Article/1167#44).


Return for refund within: 30 days
Return for replacement within: 30 days

[Horn]

Point of sale warranty, theirs is much better than most places. Most all others send u to the manuf.

[Horn]

Ive got issues now dogman, tried to fix a dvd drive that only showed as a cdrom drive and screwed my registry.

No keyboard or mouse on entry.

Edit got back in, but the dvd seen as a cd still confounds me...has been that way for years now. Think it has something to do with virtual drive software. Daemon tools but not sure.

closest thing Ive found.

http://en.kioskea.net/forum/affich-689426-cd-rom-dvd-drive-won-t-work-windows-7

[Neuro]

Ive got issues now dogman, tried to fix a dvd drive that only showed as a cdrom drive and screwed my registry.

No keyboard or mouse on entry.

Edit got back in, but the dvd seen as a cd still confounds me...has been that way for years now. Think it has something to do with virtual drive software. Daemon tools but not sure.

closest thing Ive found.

http://en.kioskea.net/forum/affich-689426-cd-rom-dvd-drive-won-t-work-windows-7
Ahaaa! Didnt you put a note on your computer and invite Hitch in to do some remote viewing on the note a while back?



It's like inviting a horde of flying pink elephants into a small porcelain store...

[Horn]

no, he could only have fixed that drive by viewing at it,

i dont thing Ive plugged anything into it in for 2 years now, got a copy of the 7th Son i wanted to see full tilt DVD

[Dogman]

Ive got issues now dogman, tried to fix a dvd drive that only showed as a cdrom drive and screwed my registry.

No keyboard or mouse on entry.

Edit got back in, but the dvd seen as a cd still confounds me...has been that way for years now. Think it has something to do with virtual drive software. Daemon tools but not sure.

closest thing Ive found.

http://en.kioskea.net/forum/affich-689426-cd-rom-dvd-drive-won-t-work-windows-7

See if you can find a external usb dvd player and see if it works with your machine, you could have a bad player in your box. Are you using a laptop or desktop?

Laptop optical players (dvd) are fairly standardized and a after market player probably would fit in as a replacement, I have swapped out players in my past laptops and it was easy to do. Desktops are easy to do also.

Microsoft and the market in general are moving away from built in dvd/cd players all together most new machines do not even have the installed. (sucks !)

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=dvd+player+will+play+cds+but+not+dvd s

Hope this helps !


As Nero noted, you may need to find a local shaman/witch doctor to help you but only as a last resort !

Also as I understand things, in no way could Hitch help you !

Hitch is only a neophyte just starting his journey into the arcane mystic arts !

;)

[Horn]

I did what it said to do at that link, but then went one extra and removed the "class" subsection as cdrom in the registry. Wonder if i just did what it said to do it might work, lol

The player in question is a wingding burner/scriber type, I have 2 others that are just players i might attempt to load. I have a really nice old dvd player that the old lady must've sold or misplace the remote to, and ofcourse without the remote is a pain and trying to get decent sound out of it also a drag.

Guess I'll try swapin in just a player, messin with the registry just scares the poo out of me. Sucks when the logon comes up and yur keyboard and mouse dont work.

[Horn]

Man theres a ton of questions out there on the web with no clear answer/solution. its as if the world permitted Microsoft to remove its DVD burning ability.

Even the manufacturers are like ghosts on the subject also. Wonder how Chino burns all his for sale in the local markets at $2 ???

ITS A CONSPIRACY I TELL YOU!!! :)

This guy has screenshots on my issue" his solution however makes no sense whatsoever, so he must be a Microsoft plant.

http://superuser.com/questions/613899/windows-7-seeing-dvd-burner-as-cd-rom-drive

[Dogman]

I did what it said to do at that link, but then went one extra and removed the "class" subsection as cdrom in the registry. Wonder if i just did what it said to do it might work, lol

The player in question is a wingding burner/scriber type, I have 2 others that are just players i might attempt to load. I have a really nice old dvd player that the old lady must've sold or misplace the remote to, and ofcourse without the remote is a pain and trying to get decent sound out of it also a drag.

Guess I'll try swapin in just a player, messin with the registry just scares the poo out of me. Sucks when the logon comes up and yur keyboard and mouse dont work.

With winxp and earlier builds I used to play with the register!

Not anymore ! It also scares me messing with all that voodo/juju!

Plus have learned messing with the register and just guessing is tempting fate and just asking for a fresh install because of a self induced gunshot wound to the foot!

Good luck in the contest !

Forum Runner

[Horn]

Some obvious bullmalarchy going on with this, click spin, click spin higher, flash yur reading than do nothing.

Not a word in reply from Windows 7 after inserting a dvd and it spinning and clicking for a minute or two.

Like "Oh did you just do something there" (like insert 4gb of removeable media into the system...) "i didn't realize you were trying to do something there"... I guess i do not need to reply to you...

Guess I can rip my harddrive out while its running next time and everything will function nominally with no hitches or messages as well!!!

XP was the final personal computer, anything after that is just a fascist's robotic device...

[Horn]

Works with internal playeronly after many clicks and much adieu, definetly a case of making burning thing of the past.

I think windoze also taints picture quality somehow when running thru pc. Is only slightly better than internet download in the moving bits.

[Cebu_4_2]

Did you try removing it and rebooting? Could be the driver if that reboot thing don't work.

[Horn]

I removed, uninstalled, stripped off all virtual drive software, updated the firmware on it, still nothing worked for DVDRW.. only the old DVDrom works and is temperamental at that. Does not Eject most times, does not accept new and spits back out at other times.

Anyway is working in some fucked up manner that is not too overly fucking frustrating!! lol

[Cebu_4_2]

I removed, uninstalled, stripped off all virtual drive software, updated the firmware on it, still nothing worked for DVDRW.. only the old DVDrom works and is temperamental at that. Does not Eject most times, does not accept new and spits back out at other times.

Anyway is working in some fucked up manner that is not too overly fucking frustrating!! lol

I recently bought a old stock new unit on thabay. Idiot shipped it in an envelope with no packaging what so ever, needless to say the douche wanted me to pay to ship it back even though I sent him pictures of the trash. A negative was gifted to him. That one is still in this desktop and once in a while I forget and the thing sounds like a circular saw.

[Jewboo]

Not a word in reply from Windows 7 after inserting a dvd and it spinning and clicking for a minute or two.

Like "Oh did you just do something there" (like insert 4gb of removeable media into the system...) "i didn't realize you were trying to do something there"... I guess i do not need to reply to you...



Go to Control Panel and click on "AutoPlay" then select your options. Probably currently selected to "Do Nothing".




:rolleyes:

[Horn]

click on "AutoPlay" .... to "Do Nothing"

Book was on the programming team for Windows 7... No, "My Computer" always shows the volume being populated by something, no other operation in any computing sense "autoplays then does nothing", yet Windoze 7 offers it as a choice.

That option alone tells u they're fuckin with your brain...

Everything is plug and play anymore, some message popsup or shows the device being interacted or media/device cannot be read.

[Glass]

I have had dvd stop working and cd still reading. In the end I bought a new drive. I have seen a few failed drives. For a while I suspected it might be some kind of DRM disabling. But that doesn't make sense anyway without breaching material. It could be region lockout or just a failure. The dvd optics are separate to the cd optics AFAIK. Or perhaps the drive can't read dual layer disks. New drives should be pretty cheap and easy to install. Get a recognized brand.

[gunDriller]

just add on another layer of complexity, that'll fix it.


i would say that computers have not advanced much (if at all) since about October 2008/ early 2009.

the CLAIMS advance, but not the integrated combination of hardware & software, i.e., our ability to get work done.

[Dogman]

Still, no matter how much hair is pulled out, teeth knashed and worn down and veins bulging! Air turned blue and beyond and new words invented along with threats of destruction and making trout line weights or making target's out of them!

Still got ta love them !

;)

Forum Runner

[monty]

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