When you kill them, they're police officers, when a cop kills them, they're just dogs

[EE_]

Shouldn't it be negligent homicide?

2 police dogs found dead in Florida officer's SUV
Hialeah police officer apparently left dogs in vehicle

Author: The Associated Press
Published On: May 28 2015 07:43:18 AM EDT Updated On: May 28 2015 08:33:10 AM EDT

DAVIE, Fla. -
An investigation is underway after two police dogs were found dead inside an unmarked SUV parked outside a Hialeah police officer's home.

Hialeah police say K-9 Officer Nelson Enriquez arrived at his home in Davie early Wednesday after completing his midnight shift and apparently left the dogs inside his vehicle. Investigators say the officer found the dogs around 7 p.m.

Davie police Sgt. Pablo Castaneda says his agency responded to a call from the home and found the two dogs.

The SUV was towed from the home late Wednesday. Davie police are handling the investigation.

The dogs were Jimmy, a 7-year-old bloodhound, and Hector, a 4-year-old Belgian Malinois.

Hialeah police say Enriquez is a 13-year veteran of the department and has been a K-9 handler for seven years.
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/2-police-dogs-found-dead-in-florida-officers-suv/33260770

[Twisted Titan]

same as it ever was

[Ponce]

Same as when you kill a cop...is murder........but a cop kills an innocent person it is then a upssssssssssssss.

V

[Dogman]

Pigs are anointed, citizens are not!

Do as we say and not do as we do or you are toast !

We will FYUBAR you !

[ximmy]

extensive training and the bond forged between animal and handler set police dogs apart from family pets.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/03/25/police-dog-killed-by-robber-inspires-new-law/70415970/

Harming these four-legged law agents is now a federal offense.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=96229

The stronger punishment recognizes the animals as partners who are valued by human officers.

[Hitch]

Shouldn't it be negligent homicide?

If you accidentally killed a pet of yours, that you considered family...would you think it's fair to be charged with negligent homicide?

Maybe it is, but at least let this officer grieve first. Years ago, a coworker ran over the company cat with a forklift. He never got charged with anything.

[palani]

If you accidentally killed a pet of yours, that you considered family...would you think it's fair to be charged with negligent homicide?

Double standard. Policymen always take out the dog no matter the circumstance yet these policy dogs are permitted to 'testify' in drug cases. If you were a slave in the ole South you could not testify if you saw a murder. Yet in Kentucky there was a case where a horse was brought back to the scene of a murder and his 'testimony' was allowed.

If you bark at a policy dog you get charged with assault. If he sinks his teeth into you I don't doubt you would get charged with resisting.

Welcome to the brave new world. Amazingly similar to the old world.

[BrewTech]

If you accidentally killed a pet of yours, that you considered family...would you think it's fair to be charged with negligent homicide?

Maybe it is, but at least let this officer grieve first. Years ago, a coworker ran over the company cat with a forklift. He never got charged with anything.

You seem to be missing the double standard clearly stated in the title of the OP.

[Hitch]

You seem to be missing the double standard clearly stated in the title of the OP.

There's no double standard. If you kill my dog intentionally, I want you arrested for murder. If I accidentally kill my own dog, let me grieve and try and cope with the loss of a loved one. It's the same with police dogs.

When you kill a police dog, you kill their pet, their family. This cop made a tragic mistake that cost him his two dogs, his family. Let the man grieve. It's no different than you or I.

[midnight rambler]

It's no different than you or I.

I am NOT a sociopath or psychopath...do you consider yourself either? (this particular cop apparently suffers from some sort of personality disorder if he 'forgot' about a couple of dogs in his SUV)

Fuck him, if any 'civilian' had done this they'd DEFINITELY be charged with animal cruelty.

[Hitch]

I am NOT a sociopath or psychopath...do you consider yourself either? (this particular cop apparently suffers from some sort of personality disorder if he 'forgot' about a couple of dogs in his SUV)

Fuck him, if any 'civilian' had done this they'd DEFINITELY be charged with animal cruelty.

The cop had the midnight shift. He probably got off and was in bed by 10:00 am. He woke up at 7:00 pm, and realized, oh shit the dogs...and found them dead.

K9 loves their dogs, they are family to them. How do you think this cop feels about this?

Like shit, I'd think.

Here's the real discussion here. It's not about dogs. Everyone can make mistakes in life. Except cops.. Cops don't have that right, and everything they do is evil. No logic, no common sense. COP = EVIL.

Got i! Why post any more threads? The conclusion a first grade kid could understand. We should be discussing things that adults ponder....just a thought!!

[midnight rambler]

Except cops..

Yeah, cops are the exception 'cause many of them have personality defects which preclude them from finding honest work.

[BrewTech]

There's no double standard. If you kill my dog intentionally, I want you arrested for murder. If I accidentally kill my own dog, let me grieve and try and cope with the loss of a loved one. It's the same with police dogs.

When you kill a police dog, you kill their pet, their family. This cop made a tragic mistake that cost him his two dogs, his family. Let the man grieve. It's no different than you or I.

So these K9 officers use their own dogs on the job? The dogs aren't owned by the state? They aren't state property?

What happens if I "accidentally" kill a police dog?

What if a cop "accidentally" kills my pet? What if a cop "accidentally" kills one of my kids? What if a cop intentionally kills one of my pets, or children? It is extremely unlikely any of these actions will result in murder charges, and you know it.

There IS a double standard. The consequences associated with a given action are vastly different, depending on if one is on the state's payroll. This is an observable, proveable FACT, and it is WRONG WRONG WRONG.

[EE_]

So these K9 officers use their own dogs on the job? The dogs aren't owned by the state? They aren't state property?

What happens if I "accidentally" kill a police dog?

What if a cop "accidentally" kills my pet? What if a cop "accidentally" kills one of my kids? What if a cop intentionally kills one of my pets, or children? It is extremely unlikely any of these actions will result in murder charges, and you know it.

There IS a double standard. The consequences associated with a given action are vastly different, depending on if one is on the state's payroll. This is an observable, proveable FACT, and it is WRONG WRONG WRONG.

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/xenoblade/images/9/92/He's_right_you_know.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150320192210

[Glass]

aren't the dogs considered police officers or something. I'm sure Ive heard people being charged with killing an officer or something when it's a dog. If anyone of those things came after me and I had the means I'd kill it.

[Dogman]

aren't the dogs considered police officers or something. I'm sure Ive heard people being charged with killing an officer or something when it's a dog. If anyone of those things came after me and I had the means I'd kill it.

All k9's here wear badges and are considered members of the club !

[Hitch]

So these K9 officers use their own dogs on the job? YesThe dogs aren't owned by the state? NoThey aren't state property? No

What happens if I "accidentally" kill a police dog? If it was an accident, such as the dog running in front of your moving car, probably nothing

What if a cop "accidentally" kills my pet? How? Is the big question.What if a cop "accidentally" kills one of my kids? Did your kid run in front of a moving car? What is your definition of 'accident'What if a cop intentionally kills one of my pets, or children? It is extremely unlikely any of these actions will result in murder charges, and you know it.If the situation or intent is murder, it should not matter if it's you or I, or LE

There IS a double standard. No there isn't or 'shouldn't'The consequences associated with a given action are vastly different, depending on if one is on the state's payroll. This is an observable, proveable FACT, and it is WRONG WRONG WRONG.

Responses in bold. I hold to my argument. I don't think there is a double standard.

[Hitch]

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/xenoblade/images/9/92/He's_right_you_know.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150320192210

I'm not convinced.

[EE_]

I'm not convinced.

Let's say a cop sicced a police dog on you, it was coming for your balls with teeth showing, you kicked it in the throat and it died on the spot...did you just kill a dog or a cop? Maybe you didn't mean to kill it, but that's beside the point.

We know what happens when a cop shoots your family member pet dog, whether it was a threat or not...nothing.

[Hitch]

Let's say a cop sicced a police dog on you, it was coming for your balls with teeth showing, you kicked it in the throat and it died on the spot...did you just kill a dog or a cop? Maybe you didn't mean to kill it, but that's beside the point.

We know what happens when a cop shoots your family member pet dog, whether it was a threat or not...nothing.

If your dog was sicced on a cop, and it was coming for his balls with teeth showing, did he just kill a dog or murder your family?

Same fucking question you asked me.

It's good to look into a mirror and maybe see what cops see?

Don't fucking sicc your dogs on them, try to kill them. They are just as human as you and I, and they will try to defend their lives if threatened. This should be obvious.

[EE_]

If your dog was sicced on a cop, and it was coming for his balls with teeth showing, did he just kill a dog or murder your family?

Same fucking question you asked me.

It's good to look into a mirror and maybe see what cops see?

Don't fucking sicc your dogs on them, try to kill them. They are just as human as you and I, and they will try to defend their lives if threatened. This should be obvious.

I can see this is going nowhere... :)

[Hitch]

I can see this is going nowhere... :)

It is going nowhere because any rational person can see one, very simple, fact.

What applies to YOU, applies to COPS, as well.

It's simple, honestly. Just "put yourself in the cop's shoes", and ask yourself what is right? what is just? what would you have done?

Answer those questions, you might be able to walk a mile in that man's shoes.....

[midnight rambler]

What applies to YOU, applies to COPS, as well.

lulz You're seriously deluded. I've hung around cops and I *know* how they cut each other slack. As only one example, after doing a ride-along with one of them I would join them in their 'happy hour' after work where they would all suck down several beers each then hop in their own cars and go home LEGALLY IMPAIRED (I never drank any beer at these get-togethers of theirs since I didn't enjoy this privilege of getting behind the wheel LEGALLY IMPAIRED with nary a care in the world).

[EE_]

It is going nowhere because any rational person can see one, very simple, fact.

What applies to YOU, applies to COPS, as well.

It's simple, honestly. Just "put yourself in the cop's shoes", and ask yourself what is right? what is just? what would you have done?

Answer those questions, you might be able to walk a mile in that man's shoes.....

Understand I'm not condemning the cop in the article, it was an accident.

The point is, there is a double standard. If you leave a child in a hot car and it accidently dies, is it negligent homicide?
Cops kill dogs all the time that were no threat to them. I haven't seen any stories lately where a citizen sicced his dog on a cop...it's certain death to the dog.

Another example: I deliberately shoot the neighbors dog and I deliberately shoot a police dog...are the charges the same?

Did you know, in California, if your dog steps out in the street and someone steps on the gas a little so to hit and kill it, it is only a civil offense.
In California, if your kid left his bicycle on the side of the street and someone swerves to deliberately run it over, it is a criminal offense.

[midnight rambler]

Sure, cops are treated *just like us civilians*.

This deputy got off scotch free for killing a friendly dog in the dog's own yard. What a turd.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FFlWGeb_aw

There's absolutely NO shortage of these sorts of incidents where cops destroy family lives and are not held accountable.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCNNiRfQiTg

Indeed, it's considered 'normal' when a cop shoots the family pet.

At 4:00 in this video you can see where the SICK FUCKS shoot a dog they ALREADY HAD CAPTURED ON THE END OF A CATCH POLE!

Then at 6:00 yet another COWARDLY SERIOUSLY SICK FUCK shoots a dog he had on the end of a catch pole.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugXBsDZsBro

[midnight rambler]

Brave heroic cops WERE IN FEAR FOR THEIR LIVES(!!!!) when they corner a TINY SEVEN POUND DOG on his own front porch.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EfztqLMjJw

[Hitch]

Understand I'm not condemning the cop in the article, it was an accident.

The point is, there is a double standard. If you leave a child in a hot car and it accidently dies, is it negligent homicide?
Cops kill dogs all the time that were no threat to them. I haven't seen any stories lately where a citizen sicced his dog on a cop...it's certain death to the dog.

Another example: I deliberately shoot the neighbors dog and I deliberately shoot a police dog...are the charges the same?

Did you know, in California, if your dog steps out in the street and someone steps on the gas a little so to hit and kill it, it is only a civil offense.
In California, if your kid left his bicycle on the side of the street and someone swerves to deliberately run it over, it is a criminal offense.

I hear ya, EE. I still think you folks are drinking the agenda. This is what they want.

They want a race war, this is obvious. They want folks like yourself to hate and fear cops. You lose rights that way (even if you don't see it).

Every "bash a cop" thread on this forum, I lose hope. You folks are the ones that give me hope. When I lose you guys, I guess I'm alone.

[midnight rambler]

Shoot a dog, get a paid vacation! Sweet!!! If you're a cop, what's not to like?? ??? Ya get your blood lust satiated for a couple of days and get to go to Disneyland.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCHPaU_nO2w


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daa9pZDxfIY

[Hitch]

Shoot a dog, get a paid vacation! Sweet!!! If you're a cop, what's not to like?? ??? Ya get your blood lust satiated for a couple of days and get to go to Disneyland.

You know cops. Don't BS me or the rest of us.

The biggest dog lovers I've EVER met were k9 dudes. They loved dogs, ALL of them.

I know one officer who was injured by a dog, because he didn't shoot it when it attacked him. He was out of work for 2 months from injuries.

They trained me, me personally, to shoot the ground in front of an attacking dog to stop it without hurting it.

You guys are posting BS, complete agenda your own BS.

It has nothing to do with reality.

[EE_]

I hear ya, EE. I still think you folks are drinking the agenda. This is what they want.

They want a race war, this is obvious. They want folks like yourself to hate and fear cops. You lose rights that way (even if you don't see it).

Every "bash a cop" thread on this forum, I lose hope. You folks are the ones that give me hope. When I lose you guys, I guess I'm alone.

It's our job to call out all injustices in the world.

[midnight rambler]

You know cops. Don't BS me or the rest of us.

The biggest dog lovers I've EVER met were k9 dudes. They loved dogs, ALL of them.

I know one officer who was injured by a dog, because he didn't shoot it when it attacked him. He was out of work for 2 months from injuries.

They trained me, me personally, to shoot the ground in front of an attacking dog to stop it without hurting it.

You guys are posting BS, complete agenda your own BS.

It has nothing to do with reality.

Apparently you didn't watch those videos which showed cops shooting dogs they had on the end of catch poles. Only a fucking psycho would kill an animal they've already gotten subdued on a the end of catch pole.

[EE_]

You know cops. Don't BS me or the rest of us.

The biggest dog lovers I've EVER met were k9 dudes. They loved dogs, ALL of them.

I know one officer who was injured by a dog, because he didn't shoot it when it attacked him. He was out of work for 2 months from injuries.

They trained me, me personally, to shoot the ground in front of an attacking dog to stop it without hurting it.

You guys are posting BS, complete agenda your own BS.

It has nothing to do with reality.

Don't think you're alone Hitch, I have a ex-NYC cop friend here, that quit the force just like you. He still has some loyalty to cops. It must really be ingrained in training?

[Hitch]

Apparently you didn't watch those videos which showed cops shooting dogs they had on the end of catch poles. Only a fucking psycho would kill an animal they've already gotten subdued on a the end of catch pole.

Blame animal control for that.

I seem to have missed these videos. That happens when you remove the media agenda from your life.

You should try that, maybe then you'll actually think for yourself.

[midnight rambler]

maybe then you'll actually think for yourself.

Oh! The irony! lol

[Hitch]

Don't think you're alone Hitch, I have a NYC cop friend here, that quit the force just like you. He still has some loyalty to cops. It must really be ingrained in training?

If you mean upholding the Constitution, ethics, and public safety, yes it's ingrained in the training.

I don't see any threads on this forum about those though. I guess my training, ingrained, must be unlearned....

[EE_]

If you mean upholding the Constitution, ethics, and public safety, yes it's ingrained in the training.

I don't see any threads on this forum about those though. I guess my training, ingrained, must be unlearned....

No, you keep your ethics, you're fine...it's those other guys that act ethically today.

[Hitch]

Oh! The irony! lol

I like you midnight, but your flaw is assuming you know everything. You don't. Over all these years, I don't think I've ever seen you admit if you were wrong about something.

I don't know anything, and I won't claim to. I post 'off the hip' from my life experiences. It is what it is, from what I've seen.