Your entire life is an ILLUSION, world doesn’t exist until we look at it

[singular_me]

this knowledge is very ancient however... interestingly atheistic driven sciences are confronted with what they precisely fight against: that life is esoteric in itself.

this is what kids should be taught in elementary school

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Your entire life is an ILLUSION: New test backs up theory that the world doesn’t exist until we look at it
Wednesday 3rd June 2015

Quantum mechanics states reality doesn't exist until it's measured
This means a particle's past behaviour changes based on what we see
Experiment using an atom and laser beams has proven this to be true
How the atom behaved depended on how it was measured at end of test

The experiment involves a moving object that is given the choice to act like a particle or a wave.

Wheeler's experiment then asks - at which point does the object decide?

Common sense says the object is either wave-like or particle-like, independent of how we measure it.

But quantum physics predicts that whether you observe wave like behaviour or particle behaviour depends only on how it is actually measured at the end of its journey.

This is exactly what the Australian team found.

'It proves that measurement is everything. At the quantum level, reality does not exist if you are not looking at it,' said Associate Professor Andrew Truscott.

Despite the apparent weirdness, the results confirm the validity of quantum theory.

Quantum theory governs the world of the very small, and has enabled the development of many technologies such as LEDs, lasers and computer chips.

The ANU reversed Wheeler's original concept of light beams being bounced by mirrors, and instead used atoms scattered by laser light.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3107996/Our-entire-lives-ILLUSION-New-test-backs-theory-reality-doesn-t-exist-look-it.html#ixzz3c26Ygdn3

[ximmy]

Descartes and other philosophers have already been through this...

but..

I wonder sometimes if I am living my real life somewhere else and being there when I'm dreaming, and this life "here and now" is the primary existence, or a secondary existence, that I almost fully forget when in my dream world, which my mind forgets, when I am awake here.

[Hitch]

I wonder sometimes if I am living my real life somewhere else and being there when I'm dreaming, and this life "here and now" is the primary existence, or a secondary existence, that I almost fully forget when in my dream world, which my mind forgets, when I am awake here.

I think there's definitely a reason we forget dreams. Up until 8 months ago, I could only remember my dreams for maybe an hour or two after waking up. All the detail, poof gone. Then I had an experience, a dream so real, my mind was conscious and "awake" the whole time. I never felt like I fell asleep. I was myself, and I would have done the same things in normal waking life, that I did in that dream.

That kicked of a drive in me to research everything I can on dreams, to understand, makes some sense of that experience. Basically, find the answer to my question, which was how that happened, and how, it could have been a dream and not real.

To this day, it seems like just like any other life experience. I remember the details. I remember the adrenaline dump I got from that dream, while in that dream, and the decisions I made. Same "me" as awake.

So...regarding your thoughts on first and second existences. It's a very deep thought to ponder, but it all comes down to your personal beliefs. Nobody really knows anything. Any people that attempt to prove this unknown, are written off as lunatics.

People can't accept the truth, IF the truth could actually possibly be known, that is. That's the reality of it.

[Serpo]

Descartes and other philosophers have already been through this...

but..

I wonder sometimes if I am living my real life somewhere else and being there when I'm dreaming, and this life "here and now" is the primary existence, or a secondary existence, that I almost fully forget when in my dream world, which my mind forgets, when I am awake here.

Yes..........

[Serpo]

To me the world exists whether I look at it or not............I know ,its very radical thinking

[Glass]

I'm still trying to grasp the experiment they were performing. The way it is written suggests that the second gate was not put in place until after the atom had passed through. Is that correct? but that the gate still affected the atom even though it was not in place, but because the intention was that it would be in place, the atom acted accordingly, as if the intent had actually occurred?

When ever I hear about this topic, I always think of the babies, who when they close their eyes or hide them, they think because they can't see you, you also can't see them. The Ah-boo game.

I get the concept that measuring something changes the outcome, but not sure what the point is. Does that mean that if something is measured in a particular way we can predetermine the outcome, sorry, pre-influence the outcome?

[Half Sense]

Not just quantum physics but lots of stuff suggests things are not what they seem. Ghosts and aliens are real, and angels may be real. Or maybe angels are posing as ghosts or aliens. I dunno. They all seem to be inter-dimensional beings so maybe there's no difference.

Sorry if I wrecked anybody's science or religion. We bought a box of RedVolution, which cleverly conceals the amount you have consumed. I think Jesus would have approved of the low-impact box. It makes a very soft sound when they dump the recycle bin.
http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7589&stc=1

[Glass]

ok I'll bite. Those wine casks. Wine in a box. Aussie invention. And because you cannot measure them you cannot pre-influence the outcome?

At least they come with a handy pillow. I worked in a liquor outlet for many years in one of the poorest parts of town. You can guess what kind of clientele we had. We would sell maybe 2.5 to 3 pallets of 4 litre or just over 1 gallon casks per week of the preferred variety. We sold others as well. So maybe 5 pallets per week if it was pay week. Social security pays fortnight here. Back in those days it was $7 per gallon.

the other thing we sold a lot of was Jim Bean. Never Jim Beam, only ever Jim Bean. Sometimes even Jin Bean.

[Hitch]

the other thing we sold a lot of was Jim Bean. Never Jim Beam, only ever Jim Bean. Sometimes even Jin Bean.

LOL. Funny post! Which is actually better, Jim Bean or Jim Beam? I wouldn't try anything named Jin Bean, if you can't spell you can't make whisky, imo.

[Glass]

LOL. Funny post! Which is actually better, Jim Bean or Jim Beam? I wouldn't try anything named Jin Bean, if you can't spell you can't make whisky, imo.

I think Jim can brew a decent whiskey, just his customers can be challenged by reedin, rightin and rythymatic.

[Dogman]

LOL. Funny post! Which is actually better, Jim Bean or Jim Beam? I wouldn't try anything named Jin Bean, if you can't spell you can't make whisky, imo.

Them werds wood bee fighting werds, in the hoot en hallers of thees mountains nawt so lung ago! Skool mabee only grad skool if even thaet. Same whay in thee swamps an bayous ! Making a leving wer mor importent than an heducation !

Corn licker is made by the senses, of smell, taste and sight! No reading required, just the training passed down by family or a local shine cook!

;)

[Hitch]

There is so much in life I still have yet to learn. What a journey! :)

[palani]

The world began when nothing looking into a mirror and saw my reflection.

[Serpo]

I'm still trying to grasp the experiment they were performing. The way it is written suggests that the second gate was not put in place until after the atom had passed through. Is that correct? but that the gate still affected the atom even though it was not in place, but because the intention was that it would be in place, the atom acted accordingly, as if the intent had actually occurred?

When ever I hear about this topic, I always think of the babies, who when they close their eyes or hide them, they think because they can't see you, you also can't see them. The Ah-boo game.

I get the concept that measuring something changes the outcome, but not sure what the point is. Does that mean that if something is measured in a particular way we can predetermine the outcome, sorry, pre-influence the outcome?

Chickens can tell sooner than human babies that a hand going behind a post is just that , a baby thinks the hand is disappearing.

[Serpo]

Not just quantum physics but lots of stuff suggests things are not what they seem. Ghosts and aliens are real, and angels may be real. Or maybe angels are posing as ghosts or aliens. I dunno. They all seem to be inter-dimensional beings so maybe there's no difference.

Sorry if I wrecked anybody's science or religion. We bought a box of RedVolution, which cleverly conceals the amount you have consumed. I think Jesus would have approved of the low-impact box. It makes a very soft sound when they dump the recycle bin.


Religions are kinda dead things as they have attempted to put it all in a box and then shut the lid.

Life is the true religion , it never stops and keeps flowing .

Does someone really require religion to live spiritually , I think not , in fact holding on to anything today is becoming more difficult because the world seems to be at a point in time where its becoming easier to wake up , in a spiritual sense.

When we cease to LABEL everything with our minds ,even god, reality sets in.


It really comes down too our own energy and how we control it.

The big difference comes down too whether this chakra , the crown chakra (energy vortex of ourselves) ,is open or shut down.

People seem to get to the mind level and believe anything our crazy minds may tell us and remain there for what seems like all their lives, more or less.

Today this chakra seems to becoming more awakened in people and they start through the BS.


This may come across very esoteric but its not that difficult anymore.

Use your mind ...dont let it use you,

remember the thinking part of the mind is there to be useful in our daily lives, not take over our spirit and dominate it because it knows what is best for us.

Our spirit knows what is best for us and its simply a matter of listening to it............



My biggest frustration with religion is that they may talk the talk but they dont walk the walk.






Crown Chakra - Sahasrara 7th Chakra


The crown chakra is the seventh chakra and it is at the top of the "chakra ladder" which starts from the root chakra that grounds us on the Earth and progresses upward to the Sahasrara which connects us with the universe and the Divine source of creation.
http://www.chakra-anatomy.com/image-files/250x250xcrown-chakra.jpg.pagespeed.ic.D3NUsjlQQr.jpg Sahasrara is located at the crown of the head. The gift of this chakra is experiencing unity and the selfless realization that everything is connected at a fundamental level.
The energy of this chakra allows us to experience mystical oneness with everyone and everything in nature.
There is no intellectual knowing at the level of seventh chakra, but there is serenity, joy, and deep peace about life.
You have a sense of knowing that there is a deeper meaning of life and that there is an order that underlies all of existence.
The "way of the crown chakra" is the way of going beyond the limits of your own ego. It is the way of transcending the ego and knowing that all of creation is interconnected at a fundamental level.
A level that some call the "Akasha" or "Zero Point Field", or just "the Field". This is the fundamental level of connection.
According to Tantric philosophy, the seventh chakra is both a receiver and giver of energy and consciousness. It receives energy to sustain life and it gives back the personal energy to unite with the collective pool of consciousness.
It is the meeting point between finite (the body and the ego) and infinite (the universe and soul).
It is the place where time and timelessness intersect and where death and eternal life meet.
The thousand petal chakra embraces an attitude of gratitude for one's life.
When we realize that everything is interconnected and that we are part of the larger scheme of life, we begin to live with gratitude, faith and trust, rather than filled with fear and anxiety.
We are guided by the higher power and we feel divinity from within and from without.
The challenge of this chakra is to liberate the spirit - open to the divine - and at the same time stay firmly rooted deep in the ground.
Crown Chakra at a glance:

Crown Chakra Affirmations


I am part of the Divine.
I honor the Divine within me.
I seek to understand and to learn from my life experiences.
I cherish my spirit.
I seek experiences that nourish my spirit.
I listen to the wisdom of universe.
I trust my intuition.
I am open to letting go of my attachments.
I live in the present moment.
I am grateful for all the goodness in my life.
I love and accept myself.
I know that all is well in my world.
I am connected with the wisdom of the universe.
I am open to divine wisdom.
My life moves with grace.
I am at peace.
Sanskrit name: Sahasrana - thousand petal
Element: No element, or thought
Color: Violet or white
Shape: Round scullcap
Petals of the lotus: One thousand
Seed sound: Ah
Vowel sound: Ngngng
Rights: To know and to learn
Endocrine gland: Pineal gland
Physical association: Central nervous system, cerebral cortex
Psychological function: Awareness, understanding
Identity: Universal identity
Developmental stage: Throughout life
Challenge: Attachment
Plane: Truth, reality
Planets: Uramis
Deity: The guru within
Mythological Animal: Eagle
Incense: Myrrh
Herb: Gotu Kola
Sephira: Kether
http://www.chakra-anatomy.com/crown-chakra.html

[singular_me]

for non christians only, those who can see that astro-theology rules the world, elites using cosmic energy fields to implement their agendas.

Jordan Maxwell – ‘Nothing Is As It Appears, Nothing Is Real, We’re Trapped In An Illusion’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg_4AREHOaQ

MAJOR EDIT: This show is a lot of wind... nothing specific is said

[Neuro]

Quantum theory governs the world of the very small, and has enabled the development of many technologies such as LEDs, lasers and computer chips.

Quantum theory or its adherents had nothing at all to do with the development of these technologies, they have in common that they transport (diod and transistor) and excite electrons, like a lightbulb or a radiotube does, which was invented prior to quantum theory was even considered. Electric engineers are completely responsible for these useful technologies.

[Neuro]

for non christians only, those who can see that astro-theology rules the world, elites using cosmic energy fields to implement their agendas.

Jordan Maxwell – ‘Nothing Is As It Appears, Nothing Is Real, We’re Trapped In An Illusion’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg_4AREHOaQ
Convincing people that 'Nothing is Real', is part of the deal in pacifying them, and stop them resisting the implementing the enslavement of all goyim. Why care if nothing is real? Might as well spend the day playing minecraft (or maybe a better term is mindcraft), or social media... These are created illusions to keep people shackled and prevent them from developing a sound independent mind.

[aeondaze]

Quantum theory or its adherents had nothing at all to do with the development of these technologies, they have in common that they transport (diod and transistor) and excite electrons, like a lightbulb or a radiotube does, which was invented prior to quantum theory was even considered. Electric engineers are completely responsible for these useful technologies.

Hey Neuro, my good friend, I have to completely disagree with your proposition.

Quantum theory was fundamental in our understanding of the phenomena that led to these inventions. Quantum theory may well be completely unpalatable to the Newtonian mind. Many scientists have had great disagreement with its principals and findings for example the much reviled around these parts Einstein, so your not alone.

Unfortunately it defines the fundamental corpus of what we know about the nature of matter. Everything and I mean everything that involves matter has its foundation in the findings and theory of quantum electrodynamics and mechanics. Just have a look at this snippet from its infant days.


History

Niels Bohr (1923) was the first to propose that the periodicity in the properties of the elements might be explained by the electronic structure of the atom.[6] His proposals were based on the then current Bohr model of the atom, in which the electron shells were orbits at a fixed distance from the nucleus. Bohr's original configurations would seem strange to a present-day chemist: sulfur was given as 2.4.4.6 instead of 1s2 2s2 2p6 3s2 3p4 (2.8.6).

The following year, E. C. Stoner incorporated Sommerfeld's third quantum number into the description of electron shells, and correctly predicted the shell structure of sulfur to be 2.8.6.[7] However neither Bohr's system nor Stoner's could correctly describe the changes in atomic spectra in a magnetic field (the Zeeman effect).

Bohr was well aware of this shortcoming (and others), and had written to his friend Wolfgang Pauli to ask for his help in saving quantum theory (the system now known as "old quantum theory"). Pauli realized that the Zeeman effect must be due only to the outermost electrons of the atom, and was able to reproduce Stoner's shell structure, but with the correct structure of subshells, by his inclusion of a fourth quantum number and his exclusion principle (1925):[8]

It should be forbidden for more than one electron with the same value of the main quantum number n to have the same value for the other three quantum numbers k [l], j [ml] and m [ms].

The Schrödinger equation, published in 1926, gave three of the four quantum numbers as a direct consequence of its solution for the hydrogen atom:[2] this solution yields the atomic orbitals that are shown today in textbooks of chemistry (and above). The examination of atomic spectra allowed the electron configurations of atoms to be determined experimentally, and led to an empirical rule (known as Madelung's rule (1936),[9] see below) for the order in which atomic orbitals are filled with electrons.

There is a lot of empirical evidence that supports the theory particularly atomic spectra which by themselves are an empirical validation of the quantum framework.

I understand how abhorrent the idea can be and its findings can appear somewhat irrational. I particularly don't like how the understanding of it often devolves into two groups; those that find it completely unpalatable purely on grounds of logic and then those who use it to support crack-pot theories like those defined by the OP. Neither of these two extremes are a balanced approach or display a nuanced understanding of the field. It is difficult to comprehend, that I admit, but that doesn't mean it has no place or isn't a valid endeavor or that it means our existence is an illusion or holographic in nature, both opinions fail to take into account the complex nature of the field.

Best regards brother :)

[midnight rambler]

for non christians only, those who can see that astro-theology rules the world, elites using cosmic energy fields to implement their agendas.

Jordan Maxwell – ‘Nothing Is As It Appears, Nothing Is Real, We’re Trapped In An Illusion’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg_4AREHOaQ

I sincerely hope you haven't been sucked into the hyper-bullshit spewed by that giant lying turd and Blavatsky adherent/Lucifer worshiping Russell Pine aka Jordan Maxwell. That fat fuck cannot go five minutes without telling a whopper of a lie yet the dumbshit rubes lap it all up like it's manna from Heaven as it appears he's somehow managed to master to the art of the supreme conman. Are you aware that he hasn't worked a single honest day of work in his entire wretched life and that he instead prefers to leach off of others both monetarily and as a plagiarist?

[Neuro]

Hey Neuro, my good friend, I have to completely disagree with your proposition.

Quantum theory was fundamental in our understanding of the phenomena that led to these inventions. Quantum theory may well be completely unpalatable to the Newtonian mind. Many scientists have had great disagreement with its principals and findings for example the much reviled around these parts Einstein, so your not alone.

Unfortunately it defines the fundamental corpus of what we know about the nature of matter. Everything and I mean everything that involves matter has its foundation in the findings and theory of quantum electrodynamics and mechanics. Just have a look at this snippet from its infant days.



There is a lot of empirical evidence that supports the theory particularly atomic spectra which by themselves are an empirical validation of the quantum framework.

I understand how abhorrent the idea can be and its findings can appear somewhat irrational. I particularly don't like how the understanding of it often devolves into two groups; those that find it completely unpalatable purely on grounds of logic and then those who use it to support crack-pot theories like those defined by the OP. Neither of these two extremes are a balanced approach or display a nuanced understanding of the field. It is difficult to comprehend, that I admit, but that doesn't mean it has no place or isn't a valid endeavor or that it means our existence is an illusion or holographic in nature, both opinions fail to take into account the complex nature of the field.

Best regards brother :)
Truly I didnt consider electron shell theory as part part of quantum mechanic theory, more like physics or chemistry, however the lightbulb and the radiotube was invented prior to the electron orbit theory and does the same things as a LED-light and diods and transistors in a computer chip. Certainly I agree that the understanding on how an electron gets excited into a higher orbit and then falls back emits photons of particular wavelengths, and this understanding was important in the development of the light emitting diode and the laser. But I don't know how the half-conducting properties of certain gallium doped alloys was aided by quantum theory understanding, which replaced the clumsy radiotube with diodes and transistors, making the micro-chip a possibility...

[aeondaze]

Truly I didnt consider electron shell theory as part part of quantum mechanic theory, more like physics or chemistry, however the lightbulb and the radiotube was invented prior to the electron orbit theory and does the same things as a LED-light and diods and transistors in a computer chip. Certainly I agree that the understanding on how an electron gets excited into a higher orbit and then falls back emits photons of particular wavelengths, and this understanding was important in the development of the light emitting diode and the laser. But I don't know how the half-conducting properties of certain gallium doped alloys was aided by quantum theory understanding, which replaced the clumsy radiotube with diodes and transistors, making the micro-chip a possibility...

Yes! Electron shell theory is a fundamental of QM! :)*#*

Light bulbs release photons of mixed frequency which basically produces white light which I'm sure you know is across the visible spectrum. LED's however release photons of very specific frequency when electrons are firstly excited to a specific energy level then transition to lower ones. Light bulbs are a brute force kind of thing, so are thermionic valves. They're equivalent to using a sledge hammer to fix a precision Swiss watch.

As far as the transistor goes, germanium doped silicon was developed specifically to take advantage of their semi-conductor properties. Here is a nice synopsis


You'll hardly ever find anyone discuss transistors in quantum terms, because the quantum effects give rise to classical-looking physics which is much easier to talk about. But all of the classical-looking physics is really based on quantum mechanics, and without an understanding of QM it is extremely unlikely that anyone would have invented the Field Effect Transistor.

Classically, there is no reason to think that an electron could move through a semiconductor, with all those close-packed atoms in the way. Even if it could leak through, you might (classically) expect electrons to dribble out exponentially, losing energy in the process, rather than moving along like particles with well-defined energies. The effective mass of electrons in semiconductors is not the electron mass, but rather 2-20 times this value; the actual value depends on Planck's constant and quantum amplitudes. Classically there's no such thing as a "hole", and classically it wouldn't be obvious how doping semidonductors would have any effect on the electrons. The very idea of Fermi levels and conduction bands come straight from quantum.

But the amazing thing is, when you go through all the quantum calculations, you get classical-looking results! Once you understand the underlying quantum mechanics, you can pretend you've found "new" classical laws of physics which only hold in semiconductors, in which there are different- mass electrons, real particles called holes, and doping effects. Usually transistor explanations are couched in this "classical" way of thinking, even though all of the supposedly classical laws are all based on quantum mechanics.


I'm sure you understand the ramifications of these technologies but the theory is deeply based on QM.

[Neuro]

Yes! Electron shell theory is a fundamental of QM! :)*#*

Light bulbs release photons of mixed frequency which basically produces white light which I'm sure you know is across the visible spectrum. LED's however release photons of very specific frequency when electrons are firstly excited to a specific energy level then transition to lower ones. Light bulbs are a brute force kind of thing, so are thermionic valves. They're equivalent to using a sledge hammer to fix a precision Swiss watch.

Of course the human eye appreciates white light more than monochromatic light, as we see things better of different colours with it. Thus they coated a blue-emitting diode with phosphorus (mainly I think), the blue LED-light excites electrons in the outer shell of the phosphorus atom, that falls to their ordinary orbit or one above creating a full spectrum white light. Inventors got the Nobel Prize in physics last year, they were well worth it.

What I don't understand is why manufacturers insist on putting a bulb around the LED-element

[aeondaze]

Of course the human eye appreciates white light more than monochromatic light, as we see things better of different colours with it. Thus they coated a blue-emitting diode with phosphorus (mainly I think), the blue LED-light excites electrons in the outer shell of the phosphorus atom, that falls to their ordinary orbit or one above creating a full spectrum white light. Inventors got the Nobel Prize in physics last year, they were well worth it.

What I don't understand is why manufacturers insist on putting a bulb around the LED-element

Haha, I'd actually never thought about it, but you're right, its completely redundant!

I guess convention is a hard thing to overcome, plus most household fittings are bayonet/screw type and they need some kind of housing adjoining the connection.

Halogen type fittings are better suited IMO.

[singular_me]

what you dont get is that Reality is what you're able to see... or refute to see... hence the NWO brainwashing doing do well... deny this is you deny Reality itself


Convincing people that 'Nothing is Real', is part of the deal in pacifying them, and stop them resisting the implementing the enslavement of all goyim. Why care if nothing is real? Might as well spend the day playing minecraft (or maybe a better term is mindcraft), or social media... These are created illusions to keep people shackled and prevent them from developing a sound independent mind.

[singular_me]

I do not adhere to the any Knowledge that has been subverted but the Elites have mastered the Natural Laws of the Unseen, invisible forces at work which govern the Whole That Is....


tip of iceberg = academic controlled knowledge
http://calebthompson.io/images/iceberg.png

more over your assertion assumes that we use 100% of our brain, which in fact only perceives 5% of our Physical Reality... what do you do with the other 95%?

There is no Knowledge to blast, only the minds that corrupt it. Blaming Knowledge or casting it as evil therefore is futile. But thanks to the NWO for making mass fear to ever find out about their spiritual enslavement. Fear is demonic... and that is why we are here today dealing with agenda 21.

NWO has mastered the The Aether's Natural Law.... it is about time we as a species begin to understand this Unseen Force that also dictates emotions, should we really wish to get rid of the NWO. Otherwise, dream on...
http://aetherforce.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/tesla-quote.png

all religions are deep entrenched into astro-theology... I have investigated them all. Hard to swallow? thats a reality...



I sincerely hope you haven't been sucked into the hyper-bullshit spewed by that giant lying turd and Blavatsky adherent/Lucifer worshiping Russell Pine aka Jordan Maxwell. That fat fuck cannot go five minutes without telling a whopper of a lie yet dumbshits lap it all up like it's manna from Heaven as it appears he's somehow managed to master to the art of the supreme conman. Are you aware that he hasn't worked a single honest day of work in his entire wretched life?

[midnight rambler]

I do not adhere to the any Knowledge that has been subverted but the Elites have mastered the Natural Laws of the Unseen, invisible forces at work which govern the Whole That Is....


tip of iceberg = what is known


more over your assertion assumes that we use 100% of our brain.... so what you say is DEAD wrong.

There is no Knowledge to blast, only the minds that corrupt it. Blaming Knowledge or casting it as evil therefore is futile



Whiskey Tango Foxtrot does that have to do with what I'm asserting about the giant turd/pathological liar and Blavatsky adherent/Lucifer worshiping Russell Pine aka Jordan Maxwell (a name he had LEGALLY CHANGED [his story: "lawyers gave me that name"...sure they did Russell you Giant Lying Turd, after you paid them to do so] in honor of his most favorite book Isis Revealed as a nod to his most favorite author the Lucifer worshiping Helena Blavatsky, the book having the character Jordanus Maximus in it).

[aeondaze]

...and on cue a thread which was being brought back to reality degenerates once again into a circus of the ridiculous. :rolleyes:

[singular_me]

I edited my answer to you... looking more at the pedigrees than what is said is going to lead us nowhere... it is like people going after the zionist jews, which obviously know something that we do not or refute to deal with

There is only One Knowledge... which has been subverted to enslave mankind, and in that sense only the theosophical society is pure evil

A gun is a gun... only the mind will decide if it is evil or good. The knowledge that enslaves us can also free us... the gun theory.


Whiskey Tango Foxtrot does that have to do with what I'm asserting about the giant turd/pathological liar and Blavatsky adherent/Lucifer worshiping Russell Pine aka Jordan Maxwell (a name he had LEGALLY CHANGED [his story: "lawyers gave me that name"...sure they did Russell you Giant Lying Turd, after you paid them to do so] in honor of his most favorite book Isis Revealed as a nod to his most favorite author the Lucifer worshiping Helena Blavatsky, the book having the character Jordanus Maximus in it).

[singular_me]

...and on cue a thread which was being brought back to reality degenerates once again into a circus of the ridiculous. :rolleyes:

so does it mean that the Unknown/Unseen = circus ???

tip of iceberg = academic controlled knowledge
http://calebthompson.io/images/iceberg.png

[osoab]

so does it mean that the Unknown/Unseen = circus ???

tip of iceberg = academic controlled knowledge


edit, wrong thread

[singular_me]

edit, wrong thread

dont think so, the understanding of Reality goes along with probing the Unknown/Unseen

“The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence.”
― Nikola Tesla

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/139502-the-day-science-begins-to-study-non-physical-phenomena-it-will

[Neuro]

Denial of reality=rejection of god=good strategy for the satanists

[Sparky]

Religions are kinda dead things as they have attempted to put it all in a box and then shut the lid.

Life is the true religion , it never stops and keeps flowing .

Does someone really require religion to live spiritually , I think not , in fact holding on to anything today is becoming more difficult because the world seems to be at a point in time where its becoming easier to wake up , in a spiritual sense.

When we cease to LABEL everything with our minds ,even god, reality sets in.


It really comes down too our own energy and how we control it.
...


My biggest frustration with religion is that they may talk the talk but they dont walk the walk.

I think this is important to this thread, because it is so central to the discussion of "what is reality". I don't see how you can ponder reality without coming to the realization that there is another plane beyond what we routinely experience in the physical world.

But the spiritual component gets into a similar issue of semantics when we refer to religion, spirituality, god, and God. Generally, a discussion of God requires entrance into the spiritual realm. Historically, "religion" has become associated with the human attempt to bridge the understanding gap between the physical world and the spiritual world. As a human construct, it ultimately has become corrupted. Evidence is Serpo's closing comment on his frustration with religion. That's a normal reaction to the human corruption of religion, as though religion is on a par with spirituality, which it is not. The corruption of religion doesn't change the underlying truth associated with spirituality, whatever that is. And usually the perception of this truth is closely tied to one's view on how "god" or "God" fits into the spirituality equation. God can be central to this with a clearly defined impression (correct or not), or secondary and vague, e.g. acknowledgment of some ill-defined "supreme being". "Religion" is usually an attempt to crystallize the former, and the expectations of our human response to it. For instance, as a Christian, Christ becomes an indispensable component, which comes with expectations associated with this acceptance. Spiritual people who view definition of a "supreme being" as secondary would consider this a distraction or interference, rather than central. That's where the notion of "religion" becomes distasteful. Even as a Christian, I find religion distasteful because in practice it creates interference with what I see as truth, owing to its human corruption.