View Full Version : Video shows unarmed WHITE Utah man was listening to headphones when killed by cop
Ares
4th June 2015, 06:29 PM
Shocking new video shows unarmed Utah man was listening to headphones when killed by police
http://images.dailykos.com/images/146585/large/Screen_Shot_2015-06-03_at_3.39.43_PM.png?1433360447
On August 11, 2014, Dillon Taylor walked out of a local Salt Lake City, Utah, convenience store minding his own business. He wasn't armed. He wasn't committing a crime. He was listening to music on his headphones, probably in his own world.
Just two days after Officer Darren Wilson shot and killed an unarmed Mike Brown in Ferguson, Taylor would soon face a similar fate at the hands of a local officer. And on October 1, the district attorney in Salt Lake City, Sim Gill, ruled that the killing of 20-year-old Taylor was justified. (http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/58472404-78/taylor-cruz-hands-gill.html.csp) Even in his determination, though, he stated that "Taylor's shooting was justified not because he posed an actual threat, but because (Officer) Cruz reasonably perceived a threat."
Now that the full video has been released, it's disturbingly clear that nothing about this police shooting was justified. Nothing at all.
At 0:17, Officer Bron Cruz gets out of his vehicle. You will notice people confused by his presence.
At 0:22, Officer Cruz walks past two men who were friends with Dillon Taylor.
At 0:24, Officer Cruz walks behind Taylor, who has on a white T-shirt and is listening to music.
At 0:33, we see the officer has his gun drawn and is yelling at Taylor, who's holding his sagging pants up and does not appear to hear Cruz.
At 0:36, the officer shoots Taylor. It would be fatal.
Starting at 0:41, you will notice the headphone cord coming out of Taylor's pocket.
At 0:48, you will see that the headphones were clearly going up to Taylor's ears.
At 0:52, the officer asks Dillon to "give me your hands," but Taylor is already near death. His friends begin screaming and crying in the background.
At 1:03, the officer handcuffs Taylor.
At 1:48, the officer turns Taylor over, the headphones are visible, and the officer states "it's clear"—meaning that Taylor was actually unarmed.
At 2:54, the officer turns Taylor completely over, keeping him handcuffed, and begins talking to him and trying to get him to talk. Taylor appears nearly dead and is completely covered in blood.
At 4:56, the officer is rummaging through Taylor's pockets instead of providing any first aid.
View the video below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01ZwvYqMRhQ&feature=youtu.be
link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01ZwvYqMRhQ&feature=youtu.be
http://m.dailykos.com/story/2015/06/03/1390285/-Shocking-new-video-shows-unarmed-Utah-man-was-listening-to-headphones-when-killed-by-police#
That video is gut wrenching to watch. That "cop" deserves a bullet to the back of the head.
BrewTech
4th June 2015, 06:55 PM
That's seriously fucked up.
Ares
4th June 2015, 07:11 PM
That's seriously fucked up.
Yep, yet the district attorney ruled that killing as "justified"....
ximmy
4th June 2015, 07:13 PM
It's almost time to take back our land from these murderers.
BrewTech
4th June 2015, 07:20 PM
It's almost time to take back our land from these murderers.
I'm all over it! Here, hold my beer... ;)
All joking aside, I think it has been time for a long time.
Hitch
4th June 2015, 07:30 PM
That's seriously fucked up.
This is theater, such fucking BS. The cop fires 1 shot, and literally 2 seconds later there's blood all over the guys shirt and the sidewalk.
Don't believe this nonsense.
The video is fake, folks. It's all part of the agenda....don't buy into it, too.
Ares
4th June 2015, 07:34 PM
This is theater, such fucking BS. The cop fires 1 shot, and literally 2 seconds later there's blood all over the guys shirt and the sidewalk.
Don't believe this nonsense.
The video is fake, folks. It's all part of the agenda....don't buy into it, too.
It was a chest wound. I've shot deer and had blood like that within seconds. All it takes is hitting an artery.
Hitch
4th June 2015, 07:39 PM
It was a chest wound. I've shot deer and had blood like that within seconds. All it takes is hitting an artery.
You've shot deer with a handgun? I know this video is fake. I've seen enough. I've seen a man shot 4 times in the back by a .45, the wound barely leaked.
No possible way one shot from a handgun could cause that amount of blood, that quickly. It's impossible. Watch the video again.
BrewTech
4th June 2015, 07:40 PM
This is theater, such fucking BS. The cop fires 1 shot, and literally 2 seconds later there's blood all over the guys shirt and the sidewalk.
Don't believe this nonsense.
The video is fake, folks. It's all part of the agenda....don't buy into it, too.
Aorta shot. Looks real enough to me.
And, by the way... why would cops make a fake video to discredit themselves?
Hitch
4th June 2015, 07:43 PM
Aorta shot. Looks real enough to me.
And, by the way... why would cops make a fake video to discredit themselves?
I'll give you the direct answer to your question. The agenda is to have people fear and hate cops. Got it? That is the agenda.
Even an aorta shot would not do that much blood quickly. Think! Staged theater. Agenda.
Seriously, the BS fake crap pushed by our media is just astounding. Now you guys believe it all too?
BrewTech
4th June 2015, 07:45 PM
I'll give you the direct answer to your question. The agenda is to have people fear and hate cops. Got it? That is the agenda.
Even an aorta shot would not do that much blood quickly. Think! Staged theater. Agenda.
Seriously, the BS fake crap pushed by our media is just astounding. Now you guys believe it all too?
You didn't answer the question... why would the cops make a video to discredit themselves? Who made the video?
Hitch
4th June 2015, 07:50 PM
You didn't answer the question... why would the cops make a video to discredit themselves? Who made the video?
Who made the video? .gov maybe. Maybe the feminists. Basically any asshole with a gopro camera could make that video. I still have my cop uniform. You can rent strippers to show up dressed as cops too.
That video is the worst staged shooting I've seen.
midnight rambler
4th June 2015, 07:54 PM
Yep, yet the district attorney ruled that killing as "justified"....
"Taylor's shooting was justified not because he posed an actual threat, but because (Officer) Cruz reasonably perceived a threat."
The perception of reality is more important than reality itself. To a cop *reasonably perceiving a threat* is literally a license to kill.
Hitch
4th June 2015, 07:57 PM
The perception of reality is more important than reality itself.
Tell that to the other posters on this forum. They perceive this thread to be real. It's what they want to believe.
midnight rambler
4th June 2015, 07:57 PM
No possible way one shot from a handgun could cause that amount of blood, that quickly. It's impossible.
You should know better than to make such an asinine statement. A Gold Dot, Ranger, etc. bonded handgun bullet hitting the aorta would pump blood out like that instantly.
Ares
4th June 2015, 07:58 PM
Who made the video? .gov maybe. Maybe the feminists. Basically any asshole with a gopro camera could make that video. I still have my cop uniform. You can rent strippers to show up dressed as cops too.
That video is the worst staged shooting I've seen.
Unlike Adam Lanza, Dillon Taylor actually had a facebook page. Was engaged to a woman he was expecting to have a child with. He had a funeral, his friends were present at his MURDER.
How the fuck was any of that staged? Their M.O. is burying shit like that. Check Sandy Hook and the 28 pages of documents that haven't seen the light of day since the 9/11 event.
Cops don't need to stage video to discredit themselves. Their actions, incompetence and trigger happy training does it for them.
midnight rambler
4th June 2015, 07:59 PM
Tell that to the other posters on this forum. They perceive this thread to be real. It's what they want to believe.
This cop *perceived* a threat WHERE THERE WAS NONE and gets a paid vacation in the process. Sweet. This cop apparently has a very vivid imagination.
Get a grip.
Hitch
4th June 2015, 08:16 PM
You should know better than to make such an asinine statement. A Gold Dot, Ranger, etc. bonded handgun bullet hitting the aorta would pump blood out like that instantly.
Oh BS. Watch the video. No way a handgun bullet can produce that amount of blood in what 2 seconds? Even if it hit the aorta. Your talking at best a flesh wound exit hole the size of pencil eraser. No amount of blood (faked) in this video can flow through that hole that quickly.
Serpo
4th June 2015, 08:16 PM
fffffuuuuuuccccccckkkkkkkk
Hitch
4th June 2015, 08:20 PM
fffffuuuuuuccccccckkkkkkkk
The guy was hit in the back, chest. Even if hit in the aorta, 90% of the bleeding is going to be internal. You don't get shot, then instantly blood everywhere! It doesn't work like that in real life. Not with handgun calibers.
Glass
4th June 2015, 08:31 PM
Just gotta watch come Live Leak brazil style. Many videos showing massive bleeding in short time. They do the same in Brazil, Shoot you and then wait till you bleed out. No hands on assistance.
Haven't seen this one yet though. later maybe.
Tumbleweed
4th June 2015, 08:49 PM
I didn't need to watch the whole video. That cop is a psychopath and that was a cold blooded murder. That cop should be charged with murder, found guilty then put to death so he can never do anything like that again to anyone else.
milehi
4th June 2015, 08:56 PM
Type his name into the search bar and dozens of news stories from various outlets pop up.
midnight rambler
4th June 2015, 09:47 PM
Staged theater.
Kindly explain why the cops (clearly it WAS the cop's body cam) would 'stage' this incident.
Cebu_4_2
4th June 2015, 09:48 PM
This is NOT propaganda.
vacuum
4th June 2015, 10:08 PM
I suddenly feel the need to buy a gun or two.
What do you guys think of this one? I've been thinking of buying it. Not a handgun expert though.
http://media.server.theshootingwarehouse.com/large/17286.jpg
Taurus 1191109 1911 Standard 45 ACP 5" 8+1 w/Heinie Sight Black Grip Stainless
MSRP: $617.50
Price: $505.88
In stock
SKU: 17286
http://www.gunsnammostore.com/p-59739-taurus-1191109-1911-standard-45-acp-5-81-wheinie-sight-black-grip-stainless.aspx
midnight rambler
4th June 2015, 10:26 PM
I suddenly feel the need to buy a gun or two.
What do you guys think of this one? I've been thinking of buying it. Not a handgun expert though.
Taurus 1191109 1911 Standard 45 ACP 5" 8+1 w/Heinie Sight Black Grip Stainless
MSRP: $617.50
Price: $505.88
In stock
SKU: 17286
http://www.gunsnammostore.com/p-59739-taurus-1191109-1911-standard-45-acp-5-81-wheinie-sight-black-grip-stainless.aspx
If you just have to have a 1911 style pistol I would suggest a STI pistol. Taurus is known for troublesome guns, and the 1911 is one design that does not do well when manufactured by a second rate company like Taurus. There's a reason why companies like Les Bauer and Wilson sell 1911s that cost $2-4k.
I used to have 1911/Government Model style pistols but I've gotten out of those and gotten into strictly Glocks.
Hitch
4th June 2015, 10:29 PM
Kindly explain why the cops (clearly it WAS the cop's body cam) would 'stage' this incident.
The cops didn't stage the incident, the cops were the staged incident. The correct question is this: who "wants" us to hate cops?
Those are the guys behind this. And, they are in bed with the media. I'm beating a dead horse repeating myself in this thread.
I understand you want someone to blame. The media points fingers at cops. Cops are an easy group to hate. I just hope you can see past that and realize there's something bigger going on in the background.
Making videos like this is a great way to focus emotional energy in a certain direction. That's all I'm saying...
Dogman
4th June 2015, 10:39 PM
The cops didn't stage the incident, the cops were the staged incident. The correct question is this: who "wants" us to hate cops?
Those are the guys behind this. And, they are in bed with the media. I'm beating a dead horse repeating myself in this thread.
I understand you want someone to blame. The media points fingers at cops. Cops are an easy group to hate. I just hope you can see past that and realize there's something bigger going on in the background.
Making videos like this is a great way to focus emotional energy in a certain direction. That's all I'm saying...
Better question !
Who wants to hate existing authority and want to replace it with their own brand! That I suspect is not a power now anywhere an earth now, but has been in the past and got squished! And are actively working to rewrite history to bend it to their own ends!
Cops and law enforcement along with government now are a good example of power held unchecked by the people under their influence.
History becomes irreverent after three generations and mistakes of the past then get repeated!
vacuum
4th June 2015, 10:49 PM
If you just have to have a 1911 style pistol I would suggest a STI pistol. Taurus is known for troublesome guns, and the 1911 is one design that does not do well when manufactured by a second rate company like Taurus. There's a reason why companies like Les Bauer and Wilson sell 1911s that cost $2-4k.
I used to have 1911/Government Model style pistols but I've gotten out of those and gotten into strictly Glocks.
What would be the top 3 glocks you'd recommend?
Hitch
4th June 2015, 10:56 PM
Better question !
Who wants to hate existing authority and want to replace it with their own brand! That I suspect is not a power now anywhere an earth now, but has been in the past and got squished! And are actively working to rewrite history to bend it to their own ends!
Cops and law enforcement along with government now are a good example of power held unchecked by the people under their influence.
History becomes irreverent after three generations and mistakes of the past then get repeated!
Think about this. All the cop bashing is destroying our constitution. The quickest way to get rid of our 2nd amendment, 4th amendment,, heck the whole constitution....is to have the masses hate and get rid of cops.
Get rid of cops, and bring in the globalists. The feds to "save the day".
The cops, whether you like them or not, are the barrier between us, and the feds, in regards to our constitutional rights.
midnight rambler
4th June 2015, 11:04 PM
The cops, whether you like them or not, are the barrier between us, and the feds, in regards to our constitutional rights.
You're such a comedian, completely detached from reality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ux3oiWELIQ
midnight rambler
4th June 2015, 11:17 PM
What would be the top 3 glocks you'd recommend?
I would suggest compact Glock models such as the Glock 23 (.40 S&W) and Glock 32 (.357 Sig) - these two pistols are essentially identical except for the calibers. The subcompacts are more easily concealable while being less comfortable and the full size is just impractical for daily carry imo. While it's not possible to change calibers on the Glocks in 9mm, both the Glock 23 and the Glock 32 (as well as the other .40 and .357 Sig Glocks) are convertible to other calibers with aftermarket barrels to .40, .357 Sig, and 9mm (the same mags work for both .40 and .357 Sig however one must switch over to 9mm mags when using a 9mm barrel on a .40 or .357 Sig Glock).
Personally I prefer the Gen 3 Glocks over the Gen 4 Glocks.
ShortJohnSilver
4th June 2015, 11:44 PM
2 questions:
1. Where is the coroner's report, detailing the size of the entry and exit wounds, and the internal damage caused by the round?
2. Why can I not find a picture of Officer Bron Cruz anywhere? Shouldn't he have a bio page or any other kind of page? Google Images will only show me images of Dillon Taylor, the kid who was shot, and not the officer.
Dogman
4th June 2015, 11:54 PM
2 questions:
1. Where is the coroner's report, detailing the size of the entry and exit wounds, and the internal damage caused by the round?
2. Why can I not find a picture of Officer Bron Cruz anywhere? Shouldn't he have a bio page or any other kind of page? Google Images will only show me images of Dillon Taylor, the kid who was shot, and not the officer.
Good question!
Here the local cop shop used to post pictures of the staff, but not anymore! And I suspect many limit their pictures on the net and from local news especially if they do anything undercover!
Glass
5th June 2015, 12:48 AM
from live leak posting
COP KILLS THUG who would not show his hands = all he had to do is comply =
Taylor, 20, and the two men he was with matched the descriptions of a 911 caller who said three men had "flashed" a gun. And Cruz saw them "making a scene" on their way to the 7-Eleven near 2100 S. State Street. Confronted by officers, the two men with Taylor held up their hands, while Taylor alone was "noncompliant."
Body-cam video shows that Taylor turned toward officers with his hands in his pants before hoisting his shirt — a gesture officers are trained to recognize as a possible weapon-draw. "Nothing that Mr. Taylor did assisted in de-escalating the situation," Gill said. "If anything, it escalated things."
Taylor's shooting was justified, Gill said, not because he posed an actual threat, but because Cruz reasonably perceived a threat. "Officer Cruz's belief that Dillon Taylor was armed with a gun and
intended to use it against the officers was reinforced by Dillon's actions and the acts of others," Gill wrote in a letter to Salt Lake City Police Chief Chris Burbank. "By the time Dillon drew his hands from his waistband, Officer Cruz's belief that Dillon was presenting a weapon [and ... would use the weapon against officers] was reasonable."MORE INFO
EE_
5th June 2015, 04:11 AM
Quote Originally Posted by BrewTech
And, by the way... why would cops make a fake video to discredit themselves?
I'll give you the direct answer to your question. The agenda is to have people fear and hate cops. Got it? That is the agenda.
I don't think anyone here doesn't believe there's an agenda. Of course there is.
What does a government do when the population is rising against them, their laws and policies?
The government has created a society where ordinary citizens are being extorted from, while the rich/elite don't have to play by the same rules.
The people must be made to submit to their will...the people must be held down, obedience by any means.
I think everyone here will agree, the agenda is to have the people fear the enforcers, i.e. the government. Hating them is just a natural reaction, or byproduct.
The elite could care less about the average citizen, they have their own private cops that protect them.
This is the road to serfdom...
Neuro
5th June 2015, 04:58 AM
2 questions:
1. Where is the coroner's report, detailing the size of the entry and exit wounds, and the internal damage caused by the round?
2. Why can I not find a picture of Officer Bron Cruz anywhere? Shouldn't he have a bio page or any other kind of page? Google Images will only show me images of Dillon Taylor, the kid who was shot, and not the officer.
A coroners report is a reasonable request!
BrewTech
5th June 2015, 08:34 AM
Better question !
Who wants to hate existing authority and want to replace it with their own brand! That I suspect is not a power now anywhere an earth now, but has been in the past and got squished! And are actively working to rewrite history to bend it to their own ends!
Cops and law enforcement along with government now are a good example of power held unchecked by the people under their influence.
History becomes irreverent after three generations and mistakes of the past then get repeated!
Three generations?? Dude, it's 2015... three WEEKS and history is erased from society's mind...
BrewTech
5th June 2015, 08:38 AM
2 questions:
1. Where is the coroner's report, detailing the size of the entry and exit wounds, and the internal damage caused by the round?
2. Why can I not find a picture of Officer Bron Cruz anywhere? Shouldn't he have a bio page or any other kind of page? Google Images will only show me images of Dillon Taylor, the kid who was shot, and not the officer.
What makes you think they obligate themselves to provide you with such informational resources? Would it further their cause? I doubt it.
7th trump
5th June 2015, 08:50 AM
It's almost time to take back our land from these murderers.
Seriously...your land huh?
You're an athiest.......its not meant for you.
You dont have a clue what America is do you?
You cant even identify it in the Bible.
Enjoy your stay...you're undeserving of America...and yet Christians are being murdered by satanic worshippers over seas for being Christian.
Ares
5th June 2015, 09:12 AM
Seriously...your land huh?
You're an athiest.......its not meant for you.
You dont have a clue what America is do you?
You cant even identify it in the Bible.
Enjoy your stay...you're undeserving of America...and yet Christians are being murdered by satanic worshippers over seas for being Christian.
Which was all funded and supported by the "Judeo / Christian" government of the United States.... That is if you are referring to ISIS which has a habit of beheading Christians.
Silver Rocket Bitches!
5th June 2015, 09:34 AM
STAY WITH ME BUDDY.
Seems like the cop is putting on a show for the body cam. He knows the guy is about to pass into the ether but administers first aid as an after thought. Seems the cop becomes visibly shaken after realizing there was no weapon and the reason the guy didn't obey orders was due to the headphones he was wearing.
Whatever happened to using non lethal force such as a taser?
Ares
5th June 2015, 09:58 AM
STAY WITH ME BUDDY.
Seems like the cop is putting on a show for the body cam. He knows the guy is about to pass into the ether but administers first aid as an after thought. Seems the cop becomes visibly shaken after realizing there was no weapon and the reason the guy didn't obey orders was due to the headphones he was wearing.
Whatever happened to using non lethal force such as a taser?
Tasers are for pussies. Real cops use .45 ACP. You want to be a part of the "blue" team don't ya? Well you gotta make your kill, and get away with it.
Welcome to the club brother...
Twisted Titan
5th June 2015, 10:57 AM
What would be the top 3 glocks you'd recommend?
G26 you can stuff that anywhere and it can take multiple msgs up to 33rds
G17 very nice size for those of us with bigger paws if too big G19 may be appropriate
G21 i respect the history of the 1911 but i gladly take 13+1 over 8 +1 any chance i can get
Very comfortable with G3 Glocks and a very much a excellent platform.
G21
7th trump
5th June 2015, 11:38 AM
Which was all funded and supported by the "Judeo / Christian" government of the United States.... That is if you are referring to ISIS which has a habit of beheading Christians.
Your post has nothing at all to do with anything really.
Ximmy thinks this country is for her....its not, its for the faithful to run to go for protection from persecution.
Ximmy acts no different than any liberal. I dont expect you to understand that as most here cant comprehend higher thought.
Ximmy is really just a feminist liberal racist. She plays you people like a harp.
Show me one instance where ISIS is beheading people in this country....not saying they arent here and wont but it will quickly be stopped if it does.
ximmy
5th June 2015, 12:02 PM
Seriously...your land huh?
You're an athiest.......its not meant for you.
You dont have a clue what America is do you?
You cant even identify it in the Bible.
Enjoy your stay...you're undeserving of America...and yet Christians are being murdered by satanic worshippers over seas for being Christian.
Your post has nothing at all to do with anything really.
Ximmy thinks this country is for her....its not, its for the faithful to run to go for protection from persecution.
Ximmy acts no different than any liberal. I dont expect you to understand that as most here cant comprehend higher thought.
Ximmy is really just a feminist liberal racist. She plays you people like a harp.
Show me one instance where ISIS is beheading people in this country....not saying they arent here and wont but it will quickly be stopped if it does.
Are you trying to say something 7th trump?
http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7592&stc=1
midnight rambler
5th June 2015, 12:47 PM
G26 you can stuff that anywhere and it can take multiple msgs up to 33rds
G17 very nice size for those of us with bigger paws if too big G19 may be appropriate
G21 i respect the history of the 1911 but i gladly take 13+1 over 8 +1 any chance i can get
Very comfortable with G3 Glocks and a very much a excellent platform.
G21
The only problem with the Glocks in 9mm is that one cannot change calibers in the same pistol by simply changing barrels, with a 9mm Glock you're stuck with 9mm.
If you want the maximum energy for the package, the .357 Sig is the ticket imo, only trumped by the 10mm (which is a larger frame pistol even in the compact versions i.e. Glock 29 and 30).
ximmy
5th June 2015, 01:11 PM
Oh BS. Watch the video. No way a handgun bullet can produce that amount of blood in what 2 seconds? Even if it hit the aorta. Your talking at best a flesh wound exit hole the size of pencil eraser. No amount of blood (faked) in this video can flow through that hole that quickly.
It's in TV and movies where gunshot wounds produce little blood. In real life blood can leave the body in seconds.
Note video below. Not for the squeamish, no refunds, void where prohibited.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6a2_1391106608
Dogman
5th June 2015, 01:35 PM
The amount of external bleeding really depends on where hit, body fat among other factors!
Way back when, In the late 60's I dropped in at a local honky Tonk late at night.
There was a guy laying by the front door flat on his back, eyes open in a fixed stare looking up and gasping for air. He was wearing a light shirt that has a blood stain maybe the size of a deck of cards on the side of his belly and that was it just a wet stain!
Went into the bar, found out the owner shot him with a 20 gauge at very short range maybe less than a foot !
The guy was leaving to go home and caught two of the owners nephews with the guys car hood up stealing his battery!
The guy got pissed at the kids and went after them, and their uncle shot him. The guy shot had no weapons, got killed and in the long run the bar owner got off Scott free, such as it was here in the bad old days! My town was famous in the oil boom honky tonking rough and ready days.
So it really depends where the gunshot is and then also how long the heart keeps pumping. On the amount of bleeding out there is.
First person I ever watched die!
Now to the op!
Murder pure and simple, the cop executed that young man!
Judge, jury and executioner rolled into one!
ximmy
5th June 2015, 01:53 PM
Blood takes about 20 seconds to circulate throughout the entire vascular system.
The adult heart pumps about 5 quarts of blood each minute - approximately 2,000 gallons of blood each day - throughout the body.
Your body has about 5.6 liters (6 quarts) of blood circulating through the body three times every minute.
The aorta, the largest artery in the body, is almost the diameter of a garden hose.
midnight rambler
5th June 2015, 01:54 PM
It's in TV and movies where gunshot wounds produce little blood. In real life blood can leave the body in seconds.
Note video below. Not for the squeamish, no refunds, void where prohibited.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6a2_1391106608
I didn't exsanguinate that quickly but I once lost 4 pints in about 7-8 minutes before help arrived, and I was still on my feet albeit somewhat wobbly when the first cop rolled up. One can do astonishing things when pumped up on adrenaline.
ximmy
5th June 2015, 01:58 PM
I didn't exsanguinate that quickly but I once lost 4 pints in about 7-8 minutes before help arrived, and I was still on my feet albeit somewhat wobbly when the first cop rolled up. One can do astonishing things when pumped up on adrenaline.
If you think appropriate, can you write about that experience and post it in the lounge or... Would be interested in reading about it.
midnight rambler
5th June 2015, 02:02 PM
If you think appropriate, can you write about that experience and post it in the lounge or... Would be interested in reading about it.
Check your messages.
ximmy
5th June 2015, 06:51 PM
Seriously...your land huh?
You're an athiest.......its not meant for you.
You dont have a clue what America is do you?
You cant even identify it in the Bible.
Enjoy your stay...you're undeserving of America...and yet Christians are being murdered by satanic worshippers over seas for being Christian.
Your post has nothing at all to do with anything really.
Ximmy thinks this country is for her....its not, its for the faithful to run to go for protection from persecution.
Ximmy acts no different than any liberal. I dont expect you to understand that as most here cant comprehend higher thought.
Ximmy is really just a feminist liberal racist. She plays you people like a harp.
Show me one instance where ISIS is beheading people in this country....not saying they arent here and wont but it will quickly be stopped if it does.
This land is 7th trumps land, it is not ximmy's land.
From California to the New York island;
From the red wood forest to the Gulf Stream waters
This land was made for 7th trump.
Cebu_4_2
5th June 2015, 08:52 PM
This land is 7th trumps land, it is not ximmy's land.
From California to the New York island;
From the red wood forest to the Gulf Stream waters
This land was made for 7th trump.
Ain't that a nursery rime?
BrewTech
6th June 2015, 09:54 AM
It's in TV and movies where gunshot wounds produce little blood. In real life blood can leave the body in seconds.
Note video below. Not for the squeamish, no refunds, void where prohibited.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6a2_1391106608
Here's another example of how fast blood can leave the body when given an exit path.
WARNING: extremely graphic!
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6a7_1403839406
Cebu_4_2
6th June 2015, 10:54 AM
Here's another example of how fast blood can leave the body when given an exit path.
WARNING: extremely graphic!
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6a7_1403839406
Hollywood doesn't even come close.
Hitch
6th June 2015, 11:29 AM
Hollywood doesn't even come close.
I clicked on the link, but can't bring myself to watch that video. Anyone care to explain what happens?
Cebu_4_2
6th June 2015, 12:20 PM
I clicked on the link, but can't bring myself to watch that video. Anyone care to explain what happens?
It's not bad actually but the camera never stops filming. The last part is the bloody climax with blood pumping out his mouth like a water hose.
Hope I didn't spoil it.
Hitch
6th June 2015, 12:34 PM
It's not bad actually but the camera never stops filming. The last part is the bloody climax with blood pumping out his mouth like a water hose.
Hope I didn't spoil it.
Didn't spoil it for me, at least, because I don't plan on watching it. He must have gotten blood into his airway somehow, lung shot?
One thing I do know, is the heart has to keep pumping for a lot of blood to leave the body. One homicide scene I worked a guy got shot several times by an AK, full auto. He was dead before he hit the ground. Major tissue damage, I was the guy who had to look closely at the body because I was writing the report. That body was so tore up, yet don't recall there being that much blood. I think I've mentally blocked out a lot of details though.
Cebu_4_2
6th June 2015, 12:43 PM
Didn't spoil it for me, at least, because I don't plan on watching it. He must have gotten blood into his airway somehow, lung shot?
Suicide by mouth into the brain on national televitz.
Hitch
6th June 2015, 01:01 PM
Suicide by mouth into the brain on national televitz.
Dang. He must have missed his brainstem, his lungs filled up, brainstem tries to breath even though he's dead. If I'm close, I'm glad I didn't watch the video.
mick silver
6th June 2015, 01:16 PM
just who land is it 7th ..................
Seriously...your land huh?
You're an athiest.......its not meant for you.
You dont have a clue what America is do you?
You cant even identify it in the Bible.
Enjoy your stay...you're undeserving of America...and yet Christians are being murdered by satanic worshippers over seas for being Christian.
Tumbleweed
6th June 2015, 01:16 PM
The cop that shot the guy in the video must have put a bullet through his lung. The victim appeared to have a lot of blood coming out his mouth. When he rolled him over you can see blood and bubbles coming out.
That cop is a cold blooded killer, a murderer and a psychopath and he doesn't show any emotion. I don't know how anyone could ever justify what he did. He's dangerous and should be put down like a rabid wild animal.
Spectrism
6th June 2015, 01:24 PM
I doubt that was a fake. It looked very real to me. The cop did commit murder. If they can get away with killing people because they match a description- a very vague description, then anyone can be next.
BrewTech
6th June 2015, 06:18 PM
Didn't spoil it for me, at least, because I don't plan on watching it. He must have gotten blood into his airway somehow, lung shot?
One thing I do know, is the heart has to keep pumping for a lot of blood to leave the body. One homicide scene I worked a guy got shot several times by an AK, full auto. He was dead before he hit the ground. Major tissue damage, I was the guy who had to look closely at the body because I was writing the report. That body was so tore up, yet don't recall there being that much blood. I think I've mentally blocked out a lot of details though.It's coming out of his nose because he put a .357 round throught the roof of his mouth and out the top of his skull. Blood going to his brain through the carotid artery found the path of least resistance through the exploded sinus cavity is my guess.
If the heart keeps beating, regardless of brain condition, a person's gonna leak.
Spectrism
6th June 2015, 06:37 PM
As for the timing of the bleed out, that was not abnormal. I have seen chickens bleed out in a nice throat cut in less than a minute. When the victim was hit with 2 rounds- one gut and one chest, I am sure that chest shot fract'd the hell out of his lungs and heart. It was not just entry/exit hole bleed outs. His windpipe was a main channel for flow as he drowned in his own blood.
Hitch
6th June 2015, 06:45 PM
It's coming out of his nose because he put a .357 round throught the roof of his mouth and out the top of his skull. Blood going to his brain through the carotid artery found the path of least resistance through the exploded sinus cavity is my guess.
If the heart keeps beating, regardless of brain condition, a person's gonna leak.
Brainstem, what I thought. I watched the video. Wasn't as bad as I thought, but I concur with what you say.
One thing I've learned, is how precious and fragile life is. It really bothers me, these suicides, it always has. People taking such a gift and chucking it.
It's not the gore, I can handle that, it's the just lack of appreciation that gets me.
Ares
6th June 2015, 06:49 PM
It's not the gore, I can handle that, it's the just lack of appreciation that gets me.
Then imagine our anger when someone takes someone else's gift of life. Common thug or one who wears a badge and uniform. It is not their life to take if their own life is not being threatened.
BrewTech
6th June 2015, 10:05 PM
Then imagine our anger when someone takes someone else's gift of life. Common thug or one who wears a badge and uniform. It is not their life to take if their own life is not being threatened.
But remember... he "perceived" a "threat" (realized an excuse to pull the trigger to satisfy his fantasy bloodlust)... so it's OK!
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