Happy Ramadan GSUS

[Norweger]

http://shoebat.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/mecca1.jpg

[Norweger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7hW6F3w_vo

[Ponce]

Salam Aleikum my brother Norwer........ may his light shine on your face and guide you all your life.

V

[Norweger]

Wa-Alaikum-Salaam brother Ponce.

[Neuro]

Fasting from sunrise to sunset, for a month, without even drinking water. Your muslim brothers in North Norway will all die out. Or is this advice not to be taken literally...

[Norweger]

20 hours fasting in the northern colder climate vs 15 hours in the scorching heat in the east.

Some go after the timetable in Mecca.

[Spectrism]

Worshiping the devil has gotten fashionable in this new age.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN5kVvR8VQI

[midnight rambler]

All hail the large stone vagina!

[Ponce]

Spec? it depends who you think the devil is........

V

[7th trump]

perfect time tp drop a tactical nuke.

[7th trump]

http://shoebat.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/mecca1.jpg

So they worship an idol and walk around and bow to a rock.
And you accuse Christians of woreshipping a tree in December. funny...I've never seen any, and I mean any, Christian bow down and worship a tree or walk around it.
Bahahahahahahaha......you'll see who you really worship.

[Dogman]

perfect time tp drop a tactical nuke.

Hell NO !

Full scale Tsar Bomb and not the cripple that was detonated.

[Norweger]

And you accuse Christians of woreshipping a tree in December.


I do?

[Spectrism]

Spec? it depends who you think the devil is........
V

Reality does not rely on my opinion or yours. Truth is truth no matter how many people say whatever they want.

[ximmy]

And you accuse Christians of woreshipping a tree in December.


I do?

If 7th trump says you do... then you do!

So it shall be written
So it shall be done

[Jewboo]

I've never seen any, and I mean any, Christian bow down and worship a tree or walk around it.





http://www.odt.co.nz/files/story/2012/04/john_gadd_walks_alongside_max_whitaker_playing_jes _4f7ecce155.JPG




:rolleyes:

[Spectrism]

http://www.odt.co.nz/files/story/2012/04/john_gadd_walks_alongside_max_whitaker_playing_jes _4f7ecce155.JPG




:rolleyes:



Well, my heathen correspondent, it is not the tree that is worshiped but the One who hung on the tree for those who would be washed in His blood.

[Neuro]

20 hours fasting in the northern colder climate vs 15 hours in the scorching heat in the east.

Some go after the timetable in Mecca.
So fasting in the day is out of fashion then? To be honest Turkey is usually a fairly friendly society, but Ramadan tends to bring out the worst in people here. Back in the days I took public transport during Ramadan in the afternoon, fighting in the bus was almost a daily occurrence. One day I picked up my children from the school in a taxi, the taxidriver was totally out of his mind from dehydration, he drove very close to another parked car. The only problem was there was a fat guy in between. He hit him with the rear view mirror very fast, despite him squeezing himself against the parked car. The man was writhing in pain and the taxidriver went out and started screaming at the guy for ruining his rear view mirror. This was several years ago, Ramadan was in September. This year is going to be horrible, many will die in traffic for sure.

[Serpo]

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jun/17/the-somalis-who-mark-ramadan-in-a-synagogue

[Norweger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szjcxe5ZWeg

[Ponce]

Must of you have fallen to the Zionist propaganda, just look at what those bastards are doing to the Palestinians, their houses, their fields, their children...and look at what they have done to one of the most Christian churches in Jerusalem. Up till now I haven't seen the Muslims doing none of that to us....yet....... when they do it is only because WE did it to them first..........

[Spectrism]

Must of you have fallen to the Zionist propaganda, just look at what those bastards are doing to the Palestinians, their houses, their fields, their children...and look at what they have done to one of the most Christian churches in Jerusalem. Up till now I haven't seen the Muslims doing none of that to us....yet....... when they do it is only because WE did it to them first..........

You need to start using your toilet paper instead of your tongue.

[7th trump]

You need to start using your toilet paper instead of your tongue.

Isn't that the truth!
He'll honor satan but ignore his creators warnings about false idols and satan worshipping.

[Norweger]

Must of you have fallen to the Zionist propaganda, just look at what those bastards are doing to the Palestinians, their houses, their fields, their children...and look at what they have done to one of the most Christian churches in Jerusalem. Up till now I haven't seen the Muslims doing none of that to us....yet....... when they do it is only because WE did it to them first..........

We are all Palestinians now.

[Shami-Amourae]

http://www.odt.co.nz/files/story/2012/04/john_gadd_walks_alongside_max_whitaker_playing_jes _4f7ecce155.JPG




:rolleyes:



That's not very Progressive™.

This is...

http://s24.postimg.org/qfu23sl2c/1432954077104.jpg

http://s24.postimg.org/qda6gyhet/1432953959826.jpg

[Norweger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si5RyJ8q4KI

[mick silver]

happy hillbilly weekend to you

[PatColo]

Just sort of a bookmark reply here; I'll update when the MP3 becomes available, probably Monday:

Kevin Barrett, who I believe is in his mid-50s, a former (Irish) Catholic who converted to Islam in the early/mid 90s; has been an articulate spokesman for Islam, as you might expect. See his first hour guest below. Can also check KB's category labels for past entries: fasting (http://truthjihadradio.blogspot.ca/search/label/fasting), ramadan (http://truthjihadradio.blogspot.ca/search/label/ramadan), spirituality (http://truthjihadradio.blogspot.ca/search/label/spirituality).

I didn't hear this live Fri night, and I may/may not catch the replay Sunday morning @ 11 AM Eastern. But the show will be archived Mon or Tue for listening any time. 2nd hour guest sounds interesting too.




Friday, June 19, 2015

Ibrahim Soudy on Ramadan & spirituality; Andre Vltchek on "shocking experiences" in "hopeless" USA (http://truthjihadradio.blogspot.ca/2015/06/ibrahim-soudy-on-ramadan-spirituality.html)


Friday 6/19 - Listen live - 8 to 10 pm Eastern on Revolution Radio: (http://memoryholeblog.com/) http://www.freedomslips.com/ - click on the "Studio B" button. To be rebroadcast Sunday 11 a.m. to 12:45 p.m. Eastern on http://NoLiesRadio.org (http://noliesradio.org/) and then archived at the usual spot (http://noliesradio.org/archives/category/archived-shows/kevin-barrett-show).




http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-_JGZHBKSByY/VYSEKL1rlhI/AAAAAAAACnk/8qd1r2dUN0E/s1600/1cdfc69.jpg (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-_JGZHBKSByY/VYSEKL1rlhI/AAAAAAAACnk/8qd1r2dUN0E/s1600/1cdfc69.jpg)


First hour: Ibrahim Soudy (Ph.D. Engineering), one of the most qualified experts of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth (http://ae911truth.org/), discusses a new topic: the spirituality of Ramadan, the holy month of fasting, which began yesterday. We'll also discuss Ibrahim's contribution to We Are NOT Charlie Hebdo! Free Thinkers Question the French 9/11 (http://wearenotcharliehebdo.blogspot.com/).


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Second hour: Globetrotting author-journalist-filmmaker Andre Vltchek (http://andrevltchek.weebly.com/) writes: "I am in Mexico City. Just left California and progressing towards Ecuador... I had absolutely shocking experiences in the US. I don't think there is any hope there."

What kind of experiences? Tune in and find out!

Andre is also a contributor to We Are NOT Charlie Hebdo.
Posted by Kevin Barrett (http://www.blogger.com/profile/11522769898898884227) at 2:06 PM 1 comment: (http://truthjihadradio.blogspot.ca/2015/06/ibrahim-soudy-on-ramadan-spirituality.html#comment-form)

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^ KB commented after the show:
Kevin Barrett (http://www.blogger.com/profile/11522769898898884227)
June 20, 2015 at 9:03 AM (http://truthjihadradio.blogspot.com/2015/06/ibrahim-soudy-on-ramadan-spirituality.html?showComment=1434816190533#c45286 06245883309771)

Andre's new article about his horrible experience in the USA: http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/06/19/in-the-usa-i-cannot-write/

[PatColo]

^ KB commented after the show:
Kevin Barrett (http://www.blogger.com/profile/11522769898898884227)
June 20, 2015 at 9:03 AM (http://truthjihadradio.blogspot.com/2015/06/ibrahim-soudy-on-ramadan-spirituality.html?showComment=1434816190533#c45286 06245883309771)

Andre's new article about his horrible experience in the USA: http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/06/19/in-the-usa-i-cannot-write/




This Barrett show is replaying right now (11 AM ET) at http://noliesradio.org -- press play on the console at the right side of the page.

That Andre V. article which KBarrett linked to above is pretty repugnant. I commented at KB's blog entry (http://truthjihadradio.blogspot.ca/2015/06/ibrahim-soudy-on-ramadan-spirituality.html) for the show ("awaiting moderation", he'd better publish it!):



I haven't heard this show yet, but re the Andre V. article you posted above Kevin, I was disappointed by a certain "obtuseness" or perhaps benign ignorance he demonstrated in the following bits:





"... “Do you believe in collective guilt, in collective responsibility?” Someone challenged me from the public.

“Definitely!” I shouted back. “The responsibility and the guilt of the West, of the white race, of Christianity, of the Empire! Collective responsibility and guilt for hundreds of millions of victims defined as un-people. Victims gassed, bomber, starved, mutilated… Collective guilt and responsibility for raping the free will of billions in Africa, Latin America, the Middle East, Asia and Oceania. Collective guilt and responsibility for the ongoing global apartheid!”
[...]
..., so their lazy fellow human beings in the EU and the US could live the high-life, because they were born white and in one of the ‘right places’?
[...]
I am convinced that the West, the white race and its lackeys abroad, have no right to rule over this Planet. "






"White" this, "White-Christian" that... is Andre V. being deliberately obtuse about zionist-Jewish-bankster rule over the West? And about their undeclared (except perhaps from Rabbi Ovadia Yosef...) but self-evident hostility towards Whites & their nations? Leading rabbis maintain that (ashkenazi descended) Jews aren't White. And in case there were any quibbling over the race/religion question, Andre's rant clarifies that it's "Christians" who are "collectively guilty" of the world's ills.

In the one instance of "Jews" appearing in Andre's rant, he lumps them in with the Bolsheviks (who were indeed overwhelmingly Jewish but Andre doesn't mention this), the French, and the Roma (gypsies); and he infers the old synthetic meme that the Jews (whose leadership delcared war on Germany in 1933) were being 'scapegoated' by the Germans during the 1930s.

Thumbs down on that Andre V. essay; me thinks he's been hanging around with thought-gatekeeper Chomsky too much!





Andre V. co-authored this book with joosh thought-gatekeeper shill Chomsky:
On Western Terrorism: From Hiroshima to Drone Warfare (http://www.amazon.com/Western-Terrorism-Hiroshima-Drone-Warfare/dp/0745333877)
Sep 17, 2013 by Noam Chomsky and Andre Vltchek

[Spectrism]

And may your goat humping, pedophilic tendencies and women abuse go swell for you this Ra-mad-an season.

[PatColo]

And may your goat humping, pedophilic tendencies and women abuse go swell for you this Ra-mad-an season.


^ did dajooz (your peeps) mutilate your weiner (https://buelahman.wordpress.com/2015/05/29/circumcision-as-american-as-mom-apple-pie-and-baseball/) when you were a helpless infant, spectrism?

did your mohel rabbi then orally copulate your freshly mutilated weiner (http://www.villagevoice.com/news/controversial-circumcision-ritual-among-ultra-orthodox-jews-is-unacceptable-says-mohel-6708107), spec?

did your mohel rabbi pass on his herpes to you (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?59387-Diseased-Rabbi-Sucks-a-Babies-Circumcised-Penis-Baby-Ends-Up-Dyin) during this ritual, spec?

did your pedophile rabbis sexually molest you as a boy (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?40780-Paedophilia&p=773353&viewfull=1#post773353), and conspire to cover it up and protect each other, spec?

did your rabbis prohibit your mother from driving you to school, leaving you uneducated (http://rt.com/uk/262653-stamford-hill-women-drivers/), spec?

why do you harbor all that HATE™ towards other religions, spec? :(??


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ddppzjmw4M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ddppzjmw4M


http://www.zioncrimefactory.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/racist_rabbi.jpg

[Spectrism]

There is one thing worse than the synagogue of satan, and that is the mosque of satan.

What sane person even begins to think that islam might be ok?

[Norweger]

There is one thing worse than the synagogue of satan, and that is the mosque of satan.

What sane person even begins to think that islam might be ok?

Do you have a reference to the mosque of Satan in your bible?

[PatColo]

There is one thing worse than the synagogue of satan, and that is the mosque of satan.

What sane person even begins to think that islam might be ok?


So you're a supporter of USURY, and the global joosh zionist USURY empire, aka the JWO, which USURY has spawned, spec? http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/smilies/300%20%2824%29.gif

Thread: Muslim investors profit by adhering to faith (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?34468-Muslim-investors-profit-by-adhering-to-faith)

[Norweger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcKdILw8spg

[Spectrism]

^ did dajooz (your peeps) mutilate your weiner (https://buelahman.wordpress.com/2015/05/29/circumcision-as-american-as-mom-apple-pie-and-baseball/) when you were a helpless infant, spectrism?

did your mohel rabbi then orally copulate your freshly mutilated weiner (http://www.villagevoice.com/news/controversial-circumcision-ritual-among-ultra-orthodox-jews-is-unacceptable-says-mohel-6708107), spec?

did your mohel rabbi pass on his herpes to you (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?59387-Diseased-Rabbi-Sucks-a-Babies-Circumcised-Penis-Baby-Ends-Up-Dyin) during this ritual, spec?

did your pedophile rabbis sexually molest you as a boy (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?40780-Paedophilia&p=773353&viewfull=1#post773353), and conspire to cover it up and protect each other, spec?

did your rabbis prohibit your mother from driving you to school, leaving you uneducated (http://rt.com/uk/262653-stamford-hill-women-drivers/), spec?

why do you harbor all that HATE™ towards other religions, spec? :(??


You sure have a keen interest in my pee-pee. Why is that?
You must be a muslim pedophile. i know... I know... that is redundant.



Do you have a reference to the mosque of Satan in your bible?
Does your koran have a reference for your brain? If not, it does not exist.



So you're a supporter of USURY, and the global joosh zionist USURY empire, aka the JWO, which USURY has spawned, spec? http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/smilies/300%20%2824%29.gif

Nahh... I am a supporter of exposing goat-humpers like you for what you are.

[Hitch]

Nahh... I am a supporter of exposing goat-humpers like you for what you are.

Spec, this is not our job, that is God's job. It is why we have faith.

[Serpo]

Religion...............is something I can do without...............

They have all been created by the hand of man............

In fact they become a fools paradise..............

[ximmy]

Did someone say Happy Ramen?

http://img13.deviantart.net/98dc/i/2010/063/e/7/__happy_birthday___ramen_by_meixia8.jpg

[Serpo]

Religion is a man-made construct. It was created in order to control the people in the world by fear. Rulers created religion as a way to control people, so they could gain power over the masses.

The premise behind religion is that if you commit sin, you will go to hell. Thus, rulers put it in peoples' heads that unless they live by a certain set of rules, 'they are going to hell'.

The truth is, hell doesn't exist. Like religion, hell is a made-up construct designed to scare people into following a set of rules, in order to keep societies under control.

I'm surprised that even in the year 2012, people are still gullible enough to fall for religion.

Religion is also for people who can't think for themselves and for people who have no individuality; instead they simply join a religion and allow that religion to control their thinking.

The only people who benefit from religion are the religion's leaders. How many gullible people have paid money to the church, for example, thus making the 'saviours' who run it richer.

Religion also forces people to deny their true nature. Things like 'no sex before marriage' etc....yet we are sexual beings and sex is a perfectly normal, healthy human need.

I do believe in God, I believe in a Higher Power. But God and religion are two entirely separate things. God is the Universal Force that we all sense is there, but we cannot explain....but religion is simply a man-made construct that isn't real. God/the Higher Power doesn't get involved in the moral side of life at all. There is no such thing as 'sin', there is no such thing as 'hell', etc. We were given reasoning and a mind of our own, so we can think for ourselves and not blindly follow a set of rules that were designed by a religion.

The way forward is not religion. The way forward is to become a FREE-THINKING, FREE-WILLED individual and to think for yourself and live life on your own terms. To pursue your own happiness and personal goals and to feel happy and fulfilled by doing this. Not blindly following a made up religion and advocating your thinking to that religion.

As long as you don't hurt anyone else and you don't do anything illegal within the society you live in, you can do whatever you want. You're not 'going to hell' or any of that nonsense.

Religion is the cause of most wars and conflicts in the world. Without religion, we'd all get along better. So guys, it's time to rid yourself of religion and become a free-thinking human being instead.http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1900915

[Serpo]

Its called a fools paradise..................believing


All it takes is ignorance to start serving evil.
Ignorance is the first step towards becoming an employee of dark forces.



RELIGION


What is the basic purpose of religion?
Religion is designed to focus the people's attention and energy on a single, unchanging, uncompromising and invisible supreme being who allegedly created an inferior human race just for some extra companionship and love for himself and then supposedly foisted a set of oppressive and in some cases arbitrary rules on them, which if broken would be met with unimaginable punishment.

This keeps the followers in a continuing state of fear and compliance.

They are afraid to question the intentions of this invisible being and they are afraid of even expressing their own individuality in many cases. Christians and others are taught that they have virtually no power to do anything except pray, worship and do good deeds.

They are taught to practice self denial and are told that their own will is totally irrelevant. Religious followers believe that they are yielding their will over to a benevolent cosmic individual who has single-handedly created the whole universe and has their best interests at heart when in fact they are handing over their will and freedoms to hidden groups of religious elites for the elites own personal gains.

It appears that religion must constantly degrade and humiliate its followers in order to glorify and elevate its god. Unfortunately many people appear eager to give away their power to authority and seem to have a need and even a desire to be ruled and disciplined by it.

Worshipping gods is futile and is nothing more than an ancient primitive custom practiced by weak minded and superstitious people. It has no place in the 21st century. The reason we have life in this world is to experience life in this world, not to spend our entire lives studying an old book, looking up to the sky and worshipping an invisible ruler in another realm.

The main method by which Christians in particular are trapped and deceived is with the messiah or saviour story. This is linked to the 'original sin' story which is designed to impose a large amount of guilt onto the whole of humanity. The believers are then so grateful that they have been saved by the son of God nearly 2000 years before they were born that in some cases they abandon all reason, logic and good judgment to obey and worship this god and his son.

Anyone who believes this story is indeed lost because to believe that a god would send his only son to help us, only to see his son get tortured and murdered, and then instead of unleashing all his wrath, simply absolve us from all crimes past and present, is pure madness to say the least.

Where is the lesson for us in that? What has been achieved? There is no lesson or purpose because it's all about mass psychological enslavement and disempowerment.

The so called god that we are expected to worship is undoubtedly just a dictator strawman concocted by the religious elites for the purpose of controlling the masses.

If there is a prime creator in this universe then it is unlikely that he would interfere and impose on us by foisting his arbitrary laws, let alone need and demand our frivolous worship and blind obedience. Neither of those things requires any level of mental aptitude or creativity. The intelligence and skills that's been given to many has gone totally to waste.

Many have lowered themselves to the pointless practice of hero worship.

Furthermore, Christianity, Islam and a few other religions are polarized religions. They are polarized against each other. One is believed to be good and the other is seen as bad. The funny thing is, is that each one thinks that their's is good and the other's is bad. In most ways they're both bad. The only good kind of religion is a neutral and all loving one.

Polarized religions have been devised by influential elite leaders to play the people off against each other. That way the elite can defeat and enslave the population practically without lifting a finger.

Religion is like a drug to some. And they need a 2000 year old hero to save them - from themselves that is!

The churches don't permit their followers to have any real truth and knowledge because that would empower the people too much so they spoon feed them kiddie stories, half truths, distortions and even lies and the followers value it highly even though they must spend the rest of their lives just making sense of it.

The irony is that religion is pretty much man made, so mankind has really brought this onto themselves.

The religious elites are not totally to blame because many people actually enjoy listening to mystical sounding stories, performing rituals, customs and traditions, playing polarity roles and dramas and waging battles against what they perceive to be a devil boogie man. They also have a secret fetish to be dominated and ruled with an iron fist by a supreme ruler or king.

After all these centuries people still haven't learned to take back their power and start taking responsibility for themselves .




IS THERE A GOD OR IS GOD JUST A SANTA FOR ADULTS?


What is God?Is there a white bearded old man up there creating and presiding over everything?

If there is then what are all the zillions of other smart and creative souls doing in the cosmos besides sitting on their hands?

For millennia people have been asking this question but there is one thing that some have thought might be the answer, and that is that maybe collectively WE are God.

God might be like a computer CPU and we might be the millions of transistors inside it.

There is no master transistor (God) which gives life to all the others and on which all the others depend. We each function independently and also as one. One of the transistors (Jesus) did possibly emerge briefly to show us an example of a better way to operate but we are all equally part of the CPU as was he.

Essentially we could be God's guts.

Why would we need a big master when in the higher realms (which could be our destination), we will know everything and we will be able to govern ourselves?

We really have no real need to be ruled and dictated to.




WORSHIP


What is worship?
Worship is the act of sending/offering love, devotion and gratitude to a deity or idol.

They say that love is understanding and yet no one really understands God at all. How can you love something or someone whom you can neither understand or communicate with properly?

Love and worship is also about admiration, adoration and gratitude but how can one feel these things towards someone whom they've never seen or spent time with?

No God has ever asked anyone to worship him so man's desire to worship a deity is nothing more than an ego based need to make himself feel useful to a god who otherwise probably has no real use for anything man has to offer.

There is no evidence that whatever or whoever created us needs us to worship them because the probability is that if we were created by a god or an advanced race then they were doing it for their own purpose and agenda. Why would you worship someone just for carrying out their own agenda? Would an all powerful creator create a dysfunctional bunch of lemmings just for the purpose of worship? Why then give us intelligence, free choice, diversity, individuality and a strong will and then threaten to disown or terminate us as soon as we try to use them?

If a single true God does exist then creating a race of selfish, sinful, ignorant, arrogant, egotistical, money hungry and sex obsessed beings for the sole purpose of worshiping him would have to be the stupidest thing he's ever done.

It's fairly clear that some people have allowed themselves to become ignorant and dumbed-down by the pompous tradition of religion.




PRAYER


Is prayer effective?Prayer is different from worship. Unfortunately there's little information given by religion on what makes up prayer and how to use it effectively, however there is an indication that it could start with something as simple as the focusing of a positive thought towards someone or oneself.

There have been scientific tests carried out which suggest that prayer can help heal people.

Unfortunately religion focuses on negativity mostly regarding humans and teaches followers to send all the positive energy up to God. The problem here is that this positive energy is desperately needed down here on earth because here is where all the problems are that need to be solved.

We should be sending positive vibes to each other to heal each other, end wars and foster harmony, not up to the well endowed gods who have no need for it.




CHRISTIANS: GOOD PEOPLE OR UNWARY TOOLS FOR EVIL?


Are religious followers including Christians "all serving" (good) or "self serving" (bad) individuals?
Christians believe they are good, however :

- They serve only their God who is king and anyone who opposes their doctrine about him is automatically damned. No questions asked.

- The heaven carrot is dangled in front of them by their religion so they do what ever it takes to get there. That is not "service to all" because many are only good so they can get their big rewards and avoid hell.

- They want others to go to heaven too but their religion has robbed them of their free will by instilling fear
and telling them that their will is irrelevant. They then go out and violate other people's free will as well by preaching their dogma and vilifying (and even killing) them if they don't comply. They believe that anyone who does not obey their god's rules is not worthy and are therefore classed below them. That is prejudice and bigotry. They pass judgment in the name of their god on those who do not accept their fear based tenets. They don't understand that you cannot judge someone if you don't know all their circumstances and reasons and no one can possibly know everything about what led to aparticular person's actions or what their true thoughts or intentions were.

- They preach disempowerment and ignorance which leads people into deception where they often become
accessories to evil. Evil in many cases uses ignorant and dumbed-down individuals to do its work.

- Christians etc. cannot avoid so called sin because their religion is based on sin. Sin is attached to them like a ball and chain and they cannot escape it or change direction until they're dead. They cannot stop breaking their god's laws, because due to the fact that they are oppressed, they are subconsciously in constant rebellion against those oppressive laws. Also they are all tared with the same "sinner" brush from birth so
that is the role they will inevitably play out.

- Their religion is based on three things - fear, distortion of information, and obedience. Fear is the basis of all negative emotions which they are told to avoid. Their god on the other hand has no qualms what so ever about expressing these negative emotions through his frequent acts of wrath and mass murder. He therefore makes a very bad example by his actions.
Information leads to knowledge and knowledge is light but there is very little light where information is suppressed or distorted.

Obedience without knowledge is slavery. The slavery of religion is far worse because all you get for your pain and hard
efforts in life is weekly ambiguous promises that one day you might get to heaven if you're good. The problem with this is that no one is really sure what God considers to be good, so the followers spend their entire lives in a state of uncertainty.

Christians etc. believe that they get as much knowledge as they need from their bible/koran etc. but they don't know
that that's only a fraction of the knowledge that exists, and worse, their books are full of half truths, distortions and
omissions.

They are taught that they need no more knowledge than what their god (i.e. the religious leaders) decide they should
have and they are taught not to question it any further but to just believe or they'll be punished. The conclusion is that religious followers are not "all serving" individuals.

They have allowed themselves to become willing pawns for a dark and tyrannical regime/god whose only interests are control and exploitation.




JESUS: SAVIOUR OR TEACHER?


Did Jesus come here to save us or was it to teach us to save ourselves?
Saving or taking care of people is a high purpose but teaching people to save or take care of themselves and each other is an even higher one.

Jesus tried to teach people to think for themselves and care for each other but Christianity twisted his words around to say that we have to always rely on a single supreme ruler to take care of us and save us whenever we screw up.

Those who do not learn to take care of themselves will need someone else to take care of them for the rest of eternity whereas those who do, can not only take care of themselves but can go on to teach others to do the same, thus it spreads and humanity grows and evolves. The last thing religion wants is for humanity to evolve because then the religious leaders are out of a job.

If Jesus really taught us to rely only on him to be saved as well as everything else, and to just blindly obey an unseen god's simplistic rules and laws then he would have been a very poor teacher.

Humans who do not start thinking for themselves and throw off the doctrine and dogma of religion will never evolve to the next level.

Religious followers ask, how can religion possibly be bad if it honours our God, but once a person learns about the higher truths of the cosmos, and that the jealous, angry and vengeful god concept is a ploy to keep us in submission and stagnation, they will realize that Christianity and other religions are a lie and an abomination to divine creation because they are all about lowering peoples vibration through mass fear, personal disempowerment and forced ignorance and because ignorance leads to evil, ignorance itself is an evil.

Strangely enough, according to religion, ignorance is not a sin even though it is much worse than both envy and pride. Christians claim that Jesus said that he was exclusively God and that he was also God's one and only son. Jesus almost certainly never made such outlandish and arrogant claims. This was just something the Christian leaders dreamed up and wrote down out of their sycophantic passion.

Christ may have claimed to be God in a way but he almost certainly meant that he was a part of God as are equally the rest of us. In Psalms 82:6 and John 10:34 of the bible, God and Christ actually say "Ye are gods", yet Christians continue to turn a blind eye to this interesting piece of information. In fact the plural "gods" appears numerous times in the bible which pretty much blows out of the water the Christian proclamation that there is only one God in all of creation.

The fact that Christianity has been deceiving us is obvious because of the almost total absence of real information about who or what we humans are, where we came from and our purpose - our true history. The creation story in Genesis is a simplistic joke fit for kindergarten students only. It gives no detailed or useful descriptions of the whys and hows of our creation.

All useful information about us as a race has been systematically erased from history by the elites in order to make us think that this world is just some kind of after-thought that God decided to knock-up one rainy afternoon, and that we should feel privileged that he created us at all, and so now we must bow down and thank him and if we don't then he will get angry and wipe us all out.

The elites learned long ago that those who control the past (history) also control the present and future.

Many individuals will look for any opportunity they can get to give away their power and have themselves saved by someone so they don't have to take responsibility for their own future. Christ was the perfect candidate because he's no longer around to refute all the half truths and distortions in the bible which were mostly written and doctored hundreds of years after his death.

Religion is a power structure which feeds the people dogma to keep itself going financially as well as maintaining its power. Its greatest fears are knowledge, unity and co-operation among the people which would allow the people to become self sufficient at best and arrange an uprising against them at worst.

If it wasn't for the people's ignorance and desire to give away their personal power to authority, the entire clergy would be out of a job and would have to start working for a living. Religious ministers also enjoy tax exemptions by the way.

One only has to apply a little critical thinking to what religion puts forward to see the deception and subtle immoralities.

Concepts such as "Deliverance from sin" are obvious in their perversion of universal laws. How can one be saved from one's own transgression? We are here on earth to work through our issues and find practical solutions to our co-habitation problems with each other, not to be mysteriously absolved from the arbitrary rules and laws of (and by) an invisible and tyrannical deity. Another one is the "Gift of righteousness". Righteousness cannot be given as a gift. One has either chosen to be righteous in their actions or they haven't.

Probably the worst is the commandment "Thou shalt love the Lord your God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul,
and with all thy strength."

The problem with this one is that love that is commanded can never be true love because it hasn't come naturally. It has come from a place of fear and/or obedience and not from the heart. If that's the kind of love the Christian god wants then that's all he's going to get.

The fact that the god of the bible feels the need to command us to give him love indicates that he's not entirely confident that the splendour of his works and creations are going to be enough to gain our love so he makes it a commandment just in case.

[Serpo]

HEAVEN: PARADISE OR EMPTY PROMISES


What will Christians do once they get to heaven?
Christians aren't told what they will be doing when they get to heaven.

As far as they know they'll just be worshipping God at his feet for the rest of eternity. That is not a proper existence, it is just an endless state of servitude, but it doesn't seem to bother religious followers in the least even though they have no clue what lies beyond this world. Christians are apparently not permitted to ascend in the way that the son of God does.

When they go to the after life they simply go from one life of servitude to another.

The real reason Christians cannot ascend is because they are living and experiencing someone else's truth, not their own truth. They have been taught by their religion to live and experience the truth of a tyrannical text based god and to just blindly obey him. They may never realize and experience their true potential, and living one's own truth is essential in order to evolve and grow.

Christians are taught that they are in this world to get to know God. This is nonsense since God, if he does exist, resides in a totally different dimension. Would you send your children to the farthest reaches of the globe to get to know you? You have to be with someone to get to know them.

Our Prime Creator, if there is one, probably exists a hundred or more dimensions above our 3rd dimension. We are about as far away from our Creator as we can get. Even communication is difficult between distant dimensions, let alone interaction and governance. God trying to communicate with us would be like a human trying to communicate with ants. It would be completely futile. The same goes if ants were to try to worship a human.

We are not here to get to know God, we are here to experience all that can be experienced and to develop our own potentials and to sort out our differences so that we can learn to co-exist peacefully. In this world, our world, anything goes. We get to do what we want. We are here to make a statement about who we are. Here we get to write our own script for living. This is our stage and our show. A true creator would not interfere with its creation's natural development. Only a satanic god would.

Another major reason why Christians cannot evolve or ascend is because they have allowed themselves to be trapped in the low vibration of fear, prejudice, judgment and ignorance because of what they've been taught. As mentioned before, fear is the basis of all negative emotions and has the lowest vibrational frequency. Because the higher realms consist of high frequency vibrational energy, one has to have equal vibration in order to merge into there.

Until one releases themselves from fear based emotions, they will remain trapped in the cycle of this mortal dimensional matrix indefinitely. What Christians don't know is that even though they will probably get to go to their heaven as promised, the Christian heaven resides in the astral plane in the fourth or fifth dimension and is therefore still part of our earthly matrix, so they won't actually be too far away.

When they die and go to their astral plane heaven, they will only stay there for a short time and then they will cycle back down into this world again through reincarnation (which by the way is one of the many concepts that have been removed from the bible by the church fathers). True heaven is not a place that you go to but a state of mind and is something that one makes for ones self. The horrible truth is that religion is all about keeping its followers spiritually marooned in this dark matrix forever.

Religion constantly warns its followers to avoid hell but at the same time is ambiguous about exactly what one has to do to get to hell or heaven. This can only lead to fear, confusion and division among the population. Also each religion says totally different things which then causes even more confusion and conflict. The same goes for many other concepts which religion professes to know about.

Christians are constantly tempted with heaven and threatened with hell and then they're told that they have a choice - a "free choice" in fact (and also "free will" by the way (???)). This choice can be compared to the choice that a robber gives his victim - "your money or your life". Christians are so brainwashed that they cannot see that this is not a choice but an ultimatum, which makes the claim of "free choice" an outright lie for a start. A choice is between two or more viable and amicable options. Death or eternal suffering is not a viable or amicable option.

There is no future for someone who goes to hell and so it can never be a valid choice, it is merely a cowardly threat (given that we are small defenseless creatures). The god of the bible is an expert at making demands, threats and empty promises while hiding in another realm. Eternal worship and simple servitude are also not proper choices because worship and servitude are not proper ways to exist for an intelligent, creative and resourceful soul.

Another choice Catholics in particular are given is whether to have children after getting married or not. If they choose not to have children then once again they are threatened with possible eternal torture in hell. In a world with so much stress and money problems, God could be a little more understanding. It appears that religion is more of a slave production line than a loving family.

Christians are told lies that only one person can ever, and has ever ascended, and that is Jesus Christ, the purported only son of God. Jesus may have existed but he couldn't have been God's only son because there would be something wrong a with god who has only ever managed to produce one offspring.

Some Christians will argue that Jesus was God's only 'begotten' son - in other words the only spiritual/human hybrid. But we all have God's spirit breathed into us which makes us all spiritual/human hybrids, so why are the rest of us barred from ascending? Christians say it's because Jesus 'is' exclusively God. The truth is we are all equal parts of God, except the religious elites hope that we never find that out.

Many religions say that only a select few will make it to heaven and be with God. This is called exclusivism or elitism and is definitely not healthy for a society. It seems clear that the god of the bible, if he exists, is a tyrant and not the creator of all that is.

While a person continues to be a fundamentalist Christian, he/she can never evolve or ascend.




SIN: EVIL OR JUST ANOTHER SCARY WORD?


What is sin?
Sin is a word made up by religion to define a transgression or disobedience against its god's laws.

Many Christians point out that the word's exact translation means 'miss the mark', which wouldn't make any sense because the bible also says that the price of sin is death. Why would a creator torture and kill its creations just for missing the mark?

Sin is not inherently evil. It's just the inadvertent breaking of one or more of a particular deity's rules.

Religious people believe that the force that created us is an individual who has human-like feelings that can be hurt by the things we say, do or even think while we're in this physical world. They don't realize that only egos can be offended. Obviously the Christian god has an ego and an enormous one at that.

Believers believe that early man managed to somehow figure out exactly what this deity's likes, dislikes and will are through some visions, dreams and disembodied voices, and they believe that if we don't do exactly what he wants then he waits until we're dead and then he severely punishes us for putting a dent in his precious plans to gain some extra love and companionship for himself. It seems that this god is rather selfish as well as egotistical.

Why does a wonderful and omnipotent creator need extra love and companionship all of a sudden after being happy for eons and eons? Why if he has so much time on his hands did he feel he had to whip up the world in just six days? Why not instead make it all develop naturally and at its own pace? What was the big hurry? Because all of his angels abandoned him maybe?

That would be no surprise.

A deity who can only get people to love him by making them really dumb (putting them into human form) cannot be a wonderful deity in anyone's language, and a deity who can only forgive people by having his only son brutally mutilated and murdered, not to mention making billions of ordinary humans suffer and die over thousands of years, can only be described as profoundly psychotic and deranged.

And Christians are so indoctrinated that they believe that this is love just because the bible says it is. Anyone who can still think clearly can plainly see that Christianity is totally insane and that the Christian god strawman is himself the very definition of sin.

Humans are not sinners. Humans break divine laws for the same reason they break state laws. They are stressed - they're in a hurry - they don't think that the law applies to them. In the case of divine laws they usually do it out of stupidity, ignorance or adventurousness. This is human nature. Why should humans be prosecuted just for being human? We are a young race and we are young at heart. That's the way we were created. We learn through our mistakes but if we're constantly threatened with punishment then all we learn is how to be good slaves.

Sin is one of the things that will get a Christian/Muslim into hell. Getting into hell requires little effort other than doing something different to what your religion/deity has told you to do.

There are basically two things that will get you into hell.


1.- Choosing to believe or do other than what your church/bible/koran has told you to believe or do (in other words thinking for yourself)
2.- Not accepting your God's son as your saviour (Christianity)
Any decent, well intentioned, intelligent, free thinking, independent and self responsible individual can easily end up in hell without any problem.

Going to heaven is easy too but in a different way. You don't have to do much to go to heaven, only three things.


1.- Accept Jesus as your savior (Christianity)
2.- Be very obedient
3.- Believe everything you're told by your church/bible
It requires little intelligent thought. Basically you just have to train yourself to be as obedient as a trained dog. It doesn't require very many specific acts of good will either.

According to religious leaders the most valuable human qualities considered by God are total faith and belief, unquestioning obedience, and fear of authority and the unseen. Most other human qualities are apparently relatively useless to God. It's a funny coincidence that those were the very same qualities that were also much liked by those who used and traded slaves in the Middle East around 2000 years ago when the scriptures were written.

We are told that God gives us total unconditional love and yet he continues to place huge conditions on us and our future. It doesn't sound much like unconditional love at all. It sounds more like a former middle eastern dictator.

At least 'you know who' didn't make you burn and suffer for eternity.




FAITH: JUSTIFIED TRUST AND BELIEF OR BLISSFUL IGNORANCE?


What is faith?
Note: This section contains some non original content.

The option to doubt is what gives us the free will to explore all possibilities.



If one has no doubts but only faith, as in religion, then one cannot properly exercise free will in day to day life

Free will gives us the ability to accept or reject anything we are told and that is what makes us human and unique

We as human beings have the capacity to understand ourselves and to realize our inner spiritual nature

Religion seeks to divert our attention away from our inner self and focus it onto an invisible and inconceivable ruler god

If we choose to buy into this then we are robbed of our personal power and individuality and the authorities can have their way with us

Religious followers put faith in religion's teachings and then make bunches of wild claims. And they can do that because religion's claims are so difficult to disprove.

They are difficult to disprove because it happened so long ago that all the witnesses and scribes are dead, and because God is basically a faceless entity. Also Christ hasn't been around for 2000 years so he's not available to rebuke any of the claims to set the record straight.

Therefore Christian scholars and church leaders could change or write whatever they like over the centuries, print it, and call it scripture.

Rejecting religion's doctrine of God does not result in hell and blindly believing in God does not result in heaven. Many on earth are already in a state of hell and many of them are religious followers. Many free thinking people are already experiencing heaven on earth and don't need to be dictated to by religion.

Love is complete acceptance and respect for another’s freedom and choices while always being ready to help them in all ways possible. If we are to believe that the god of the bible is the one true God then it is clear that this god doesn't love us at all but seeks only to interfere, manipulate and disempower us through fear, imposed ignorance and constant empty promises.

True love is the ability to make others feel special. The Christian god hasn't exactly succeeded in making any of his followers feel particularly special or valuable.

Everyone is special, but the god of the bible only seems intent on making us all into identical, helpless and miserable sheep with no self will or useful purpose.




GOD: KING BY PROXY OR CROWNED IDOL?


Why God could not possibly govern this world
Governing a world requires a physical presence, but the bible god has no physical presence here and his governance cannot be done by proxy through humans.

God, if he exists, is not of this world and therefore cannot properly communicate or interact with anyone here. Saying that Jesus walked the earth and was God or the son of God is not a valid claim because there is no evidence that Jesus was a bigger part of God than the rest of us are.

There is no evidence that he was the only son of God or even a representative of God except what humans have put into the bible as his purported words.

Evidence of his Godship has been claimed but evidence can be misinterpreted, misrepresented and exaggerated, especially over hundreds or thousands of years. Saying that Jesus was God is nothing more than a far fetched claim by religious zealots who are notorious for making such claims out of passion.

Jesus cannot be said to even be a representative of God's governing body because Jesus has not been around for nearly 2000 years. A government representative must have an active presence in order to see that things continue to run as required. One cannot govern a world for thirty odd years and then take off and expect the people to not twist and distort one's words and embellish one's stories.

Using a book such as a bible is also not a valid object of authority because there's no reason to believe that the bible actually contains the creator's own words, unless of course you want to take the bibles own word for it. Also many words and concepts cannot be properly translated, and the written word can be rewritten, slanted and distorted over time.

The best form of government is each persons own moral code based on love, compassion, common decency and respect for one another.

The promise of heaven and the threat of hell only really works on children. If everyone were to grow up and drop the fear based ravings of religion and just do onto others as they would have others do onto them then there would be less problems in the world.




DIVINE LAW: JUSTICE OR AN INVITATION FOR MISCHIEF?


Do God's methods work in practice?
God's laws are said to be fair and just.

The best way to guide someone to do the right thing is to advise them of what is best and then explain to them the consequences of doing things thoughtlessly. Informing the person of some of the pitfalls prompts the person to think and learn about what is best so they can grow in wisdom and experience life with safety.

On the other hand telling someone not to do something and then giving insufficient information, or worse, threatening abandonment, bodily harm or even torture and death if they don't comply, forces the person to either become alienated, or driven into fearful submission. Some however will go along quite willingly and happily if they lack knowledge or self esteem.

The god of the bible uses the later method.

Bluntly telling someone not to do something is an invitation to a curious human, which is the way we were created, to break the rules and find out for themselves what will happen.

The best way to learn is to make mistakes and humans make them all the time however the god of the bible does not allow us to take this natural route. The god of the bible (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biblianazar/esp_biblianazar_jehovah.htm) does make some provisions for a person to repent if they do decide to be adventurous but in the face of threats, fear and unanswered questions, a sincere repentance is rather difficult.

This often results in residual guilt, and because of ambiguity over what is and isn't a transgression against God, the person may be left confused, fearful and uncertain about their future. God demands to be loved above all others but under these circumstances true love is hardly possible, especially given that he's conveniently invisible and unreachable. Strangely, most Christians are quite happy in their religion and don't have any problem living under this kind of bizarre regime.

The reward and punishment system that God uses has been shown to work sufficiently on animals and children but intelligent and creative human adults deserve better. If the god of the bible is who he says he is then he should know that.

Why doesn't he? Maybe it's because it isn't God at all who's doing this but man doing it to himself. Religion is provably man's invention and man makes his religion to be in proportion to his level of development. The Islamic culture for example is a little more barbaric than western cultures and that's obviously why the Islamic religion is also more barbaric.

Horses for courses, or rather courses for horses.



Love is the desire and ability to make someone happy and joyful every minute of every day

Love is unconditional acceptance of someone no matter what they choose to believe or do

Love is promising someone something good and then surprising them with something ten times better the very next day

The god of the bible ought to try using love some time instead of just bragging about it

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biblianazar/esp_biblianazar_18.htm

[Hitch]

Serpo, the writer of those articles doesn't seem to understand that God is all around us, with us, he's not far away. All you have to do is ask.

I've been praying all day today. I've been going through something very spiritually, and physically, overwhelming I could never talk about it. I'm not alone because God is with me through this, I can feel it, and it brings me peace.

[PatColo]

You sure have a keen interest in my pee-pee. Why is that?
You must be a muslim pedophile. i know... I know... that is redundant.



Does your koran have a reference for your brain? If not, it does not exist.



Nahh... I am a supporter of exposing goat-humpers like you for what you are.


I obviously forgot your joowiest joowey trait: when someone observes unpleasant truths about your joowey people, and you have no defense: DON'T RESPOND! Flip-the-Script-and-Project!! Go straight to the ad-hom/name-calling!! --H H--

[PatColo]

must listen via the player console embedded at http://noliesradio.org/archives/100754


First hour: Isa Hodge (http://wakeupinmerica.com/), co-host of A Muslim and a Catholic Wake Up in America. (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/weresisters/2015/01/28/a-muslim-and-a-catholic-wake-up-in-merica)
Isa is a Muslim American activist fighting for the rights of all Americans and the preservation of the constitution. He was the organizer of the Million American March Against Fear in D.C. on 9/11/2013. He was also a speaker at the Engineers and Architects for truth on 9/11 last year at their annual lecture symposium at the Sheridan Hotel in D.C. Isa was on Fox’s The Five, Sean Hannity, and Jennie Pierro show. Isa has had articles written about him in the Washington Post, US world News, and Mark Harmon white house correspondent. Various shows has him as a guest on several radio shows from Mark Edge, Alan Colmes and various libertarian radio shows to many to list as well as several conservative radio shows. Also he has had articles that were translated in to 32 languages in 32 different countries. Last year while on the various Fox shows he was able to use mass media’s tool against them and was successful in showing the hypocrisies and lies told by main stream media and was able to declare on national t.v. that Islam is not the enemy and that they do not promote, celebrate, teach, participate, or stay silent with regards to terror attacks. He is a member of Muslims 4 Liberty created and ran by Will Coley also a member of PANDA. He is currently an adviser on the Solutions institute where activists can get real help and coaches for their activities. He is a father of 3 boys and owns a family medical clinic in the urban area where they do free health clinics for various churches and rallies in his community.


Second hour: Robin Hordon, former Air Traffic Controller and 9/11 whistleblower, source for David Ray Griffin’s research. Robin is also an advocate of Civil Information Activism.

[Cebu_4_2]

Question: What is Ramadan?

Ramadan (http://islam.about.com/od/ramadan/tp/ramadan-hub.htm) is the ninth month of the Islamic lunar calendar (http://islam.about.com/cs/calendar/a/hijrah_calendar.htm). Every day during this month, Muslims around the world spend the daylight hours in a complete fast.

Answer: During the blessed month of Ramadan (http://islam.about.com/od/ramadan/tp/ramadan-hub.htm), Muslims all over the world abstain from food, drink, and other physical needs during the daylight hours. As a time to purify the soul, refocus attention on God, and practice self-sacrifice, Ramadan is much more than just not eating and drinking.

Muslims are called upon to use this month to re-evaluate their lives in light of Islamic guidance. We are to make peace with those who have wronged us, strengthen ties with family and friends, do away with bad habits -- essentially to clean up our lives, our thoughts, and our feelings. The Arabic word for "fasting" (sawm (http://islam.about.com/library/glossary/bldef-sawm.htm)) literally means "to refrain" - and it means not only refraining from food and drink, but from evil actions, thoughts, and words.

During Ramadan, every part of the body must be restrained. The tongue must be restrained from backbiting and gossip. The eyes must restrain themselves from looking at unlawful things. The hand must not touch or take anything that does not belong to it.

The ears must refrain from listening to idle talk or obscene words. The feet must refrain from going to sinful places. In such a way, every part of the body observes the fast.

Therefore, fasting is not merely physical, but is rather the total commitment of the person's body and soul to the spirit of the fast.

Ramadan is a time to practice self-restraint; a time to cleanse the body and soul from impurities and re-focus one's self on the worship of God.

[midnight rambler]

Ramadan is a time to practice self-restraint; a time to cleanse the body and soul from impurities and re-focus one's self on the worship of God.

So...I take this to mean that the true faithful of the Islamic faith would love all of God's children during Ramadan and refrain from engaging in acts of terrorism and murdering others...right?? ???

[Cebu_4_2]

So...I take this to mean that the true faithful of the Islamic faith would love all of God's children during Ramadan and refrain from engaging in acts of terrorism and murdering others...right?? ???

Looked it up in several places with the same sentiment in regards to God.

What like the governments of us would lie?

[Serpo]

Serpo, the writer of those articles doesn't seem to understand that God is all around us, with us, he's not far away. All you have to do is ask.

I've been praying all day today. I've been going through something very spiritually, and physically, overwhelming I could never talk about it. I'm not alone because God is with me through this, I can feel it, and it brings me peace.

Same here but I dont need someone elses interpretation to do this..........

[Hitch]

Same here but I dont need someone elses interpretation to do this..........

Agreed. It's an individual journey we are on, spiritually, I believe.

[Serpo]

Agreed. It's an individual journey we are on, spiritually, I believe.

Im interested in the merkaba just now, check it out .

[Norweger]

So...I take this to mean that the true faithful of the Islamic faith would love all of God's children during Ramadan and refrain from engaging in acts of terrorism and murdering others...right?? ???

Still believing in the media created ISIS hype are we?

[Spectrism]

I obviously forgot your joowiest joowey trait: when someone observes unpleasant truths about your joowey people, and you have no defense: DON'T RESPOND! Flip-the-Script-and-Project!! Go straight to the ad-hom/name-calling!! --H H--

You can dish it out but you can't take it. Thought so. You are a deceiving wimp.

[7th trump]

Still believing in the media created ISIS hype are we?

What does believing the media creating isis have to do with muslim terrorism?

There hasn't been a peaceful time in any land where muslims move in. Bosnia, Philippines, France, England to name a few.
China doesn't put up with muslims nor does Russia.
Heck show me a time when they didn't butcher and murder each other?
The world knows what filthy bastards the muslims are.


I don't see the jews slicing off heads just because someone wasn't jewish......but the world see's the filthy uneducated muslims doing it world wide on a daily basis.
I will rejoice to see you and your ilk cast into the lake of fire for destruction and never be remembered again.
It will be a Christian day of rejoice to see evil defeated....and we do get to witness this destruction with happiness!

[PatColo]

^ still at it with your joowey projection and ad-hom name calling then, are we spec? http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/smilies/300%20%2824%29.gif



^ did dajooz (your peeps) mutilate your weiner (https://buelahman.wordpress.com/2015/05/29/circumcision-as-american-as-mom-apple-pie-and-baseball/) when you were a helpless infant, spectrism?

did your mohel rabbi then orally copulate your freshly mutilated weiner (http://www.villagevoice.com/news/controversial-circumcision-ritual-among-ultra-orthodox-jews-is-unacceptable-says-mohel-6708107), spec?

did your mohel rabbi pass on his herpes to you (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?59387-Diseased-Rabbi-Sucks-a-Babies-Circumcised-Penis-Baby-Ends-Up-Dyin) during this ritual, spec?

did your pedophile rabbis sexually molest you as a boy (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?40780-Paedophilia&p=773353&viewfull=1#post773353), and conspire to cover it up and protect each other, spec?

did your rabbis prohibit your mother from driving you to school, leaving you uneducated (http://rt.com/uk/262653-stamford-hill-women-drivers/), spec?

why do you harbor all that HATE™ towards other religions, spec? :(??


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ddppzjmw4M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ddppzjmw4M


http://www.zioncrimefactory.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/racist_rabbi.jpg


yes, obviously so... :rolleyes:

[Norweger]

What does believing the media creating isis have to do with muslim terrorism?


Everything.

[Spectrism]

Patcolo-jewboo-muslim worshiper.... your hate for jews blinds you of everything. Those in bondage of islam are a very sorry lot.

[PatColo]

^
http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/sleep/sleeping-smiley-face.gif


^ still at it with your joowey projection and ad-hom name calling then, are we spec? http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/smilies/300%20%2824%29.gif

yes, obviously so... :rolleyes:

[Horn]

Thread needs a Beatles tune to be complete.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf5jUM8zvk8

[Jewboo]

Those in bondage of islam are a very sorry lot.




http://www.deliberation.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/IDF_ZioNazi.jpg

https://alethonews.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/idf6.jpg

http://www.hdip.org/news%20&%20articles/children-jewish.jpg

http://action4palestinianchildren.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/a4pc-ism-sept-hebron.jpg

https://www.idfblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/IDF-soldier-palestinian-girl-fake3-640x448.png

http://www.a-w-i-p.com/media/blogs/home//PAL_idf1_2.jpg




:rolleyes:

[Norweger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4Xh9RQ0WYA

[Serpo]

I belong to no group for I am myself.

[StreetsOfGold]

Salam Aleikum my brother Norwer........ may his light shine on your face and guide you all your life.

V

"his light shine"
Whose light is that?

If you are referring to ANYONE but the Lord Jesus Christ, you're deceived and remember ponce, you are closer to hell now than ever.

Your carcass, like everyone else is getting older and more feeble everyday

You will stand one day before the Lord Jesus Christ to give an account of your (unnatural) Jew hatred produced by the whore of revelation (the Vatican) and your rejection of the one true God Jesus Christ!


BTW: This goes for all you other deceived fellow followers of the Jew hating, PRO Vatican whore!

[7th trump]

"his light shine"
Whose light is that?

If you are referring to ANYONE but the Lord Jesus Christ, you're deceived and remember ponce, you are closer to hell now than ever.

Your carcass, like everyone else is getting older and more feeble everyday

You will stand one day before the Lord Jesus Christ to give an account of your (unnatural) Jew hatred produced by the whore of revelation (the Vatican) and your rejection of the one true God Jesus Christ!


BTW: This goes for all you other deceived fellow followers of the Jew hating, PRO Vatican whore!

Ponce is a nonbeliever so why lecture him?
Let him follow his idols.

[Ponce]

You don't need a religion in order to believe in the one that many call "God", the name that I use is "The Force", that witch is everything and is everywhere.........why pray to a man who is suffering on a cross when you can pray before a tree that offers you its shade and protection?.....if you are willing to kill for what you believe in then you are no better than those who are willing to do the same........I am happy as I am for I march to the sound of my own drum.

V

[Horn]

Ponce is henceforth graduated then designated GSUS Minister preacher.

I've relieved myself to co-anchor and weatherman.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIVB3pC8aqE

[ximmy]

You don't need a religion in order to believe in the one that many call "God", the name that I use is "The Force", that witch is everything and is everywhere.........why pray to a man who is suffering on a cross when you can pray before a tree that offers you its shade and protection?.....if you are willing to kill for what you believe in then you are no better than those who are willing to do the same........I am happy as I am for I march to the sound of my own drum.

V

Use the force Ponce...

http://i.imgur.com/xI4JPtM.jpg

[Norweger]

"his light shine"
Whose light is that?

If you are referring to ANYONE but the Lord Jesus Christ, you're deceived and remember ponce, you are closer to hell now than ever.

Your carcass, like everyone else is getting older and more feeble everyday

You will stand one day before the Lord Jesus Christ to give an account of your (unnatural) Jew hatred produced by the whore of revelation (the Vatican) and your rejection of the one true God Jesus Christ!


BTW: This goes for all you other deceived fellow followers of the Jew hating, PRO Vatican whore!

Jesus (pbuh) isn't God.

You have no knowledge of the unseen and can't say who is going to hell or not. Feeling secure from the punishment is a sign that you are eligible for it.

[Spectrism]

You don't need a religion in order to believe in the one that many call "God", the name that I use is "The Force", that witch is everything and is everywhere.........why pray to a man who is suffering on a cross when you can pray before a tree that offers you its shade and protection?.....if you are willing to kill for what you believe in then you are no better than those who are willing to do the same........I am happy as I am for I march to the sound of my own drum.

V

Are you also this lackadaisical when addressing mail to someone you would like to write to? You use any name and address because all that counts is what's in your heart, right?

[Horn]

Are you also this lackadaisical when addressing mail to someone you would like to write to? You use any name and address because all that counts is what's in your heart, right?

Faith in postage and stamp, classic Spectro inc.

[Serpo]

http://www.lifecoachingforchristianwomen.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Letters_to_God.jpg

[Spectrism]

Faith in postage and stamp, classic Spectro inc.

Its called a metaphor. It takes a small degree of intelligence to connect the dots. Maybe you need a picture website?

[Ponce]

Are you also this lackadaisical when addressing mail to someone you would like to write to? You use any name and address because all that counts is what's in your heart, right?

Spect? as you can see I am using your name, here, right now, in this moment.....does that makes me a"lackadaisical" because you are only a name in a lap top?......when talking to the one that you call "God" does that makes you one because no one can see him? or that makes you "crazy" because no one else can see him?.......so.......you are right, what is in your heart no one has to see.

V

[Spectrism]

Spect? as you can see I am using your name, here, right now, in this moment.....does that makes me a"lackadaisical" because you are only a name in a lap top?......when talking to the one that you call "God" does that makes you one because no one can see him? or that makes you "crazy" because no one else can see him?.......so.......you are right, what is in your heart no one has to see.

V

There is a layer of sarcasm to the "heart" thing. It is like this. A liberal sees a poor homeless man get beaten on the street. The liberal says- somebody ought to do something. He/she considers himself good because in their heart they wanted something good for the beaten man. For them, all that matters is whats in the heart.... and it is really nothing but empty emotions.

A good heart would aid the victim. I know you are of that type.

But using that metaphor, you may intend well, in communicating with God, but find you are instead talking with the devil. It does make a difference.

[Horn]

Its called a metaphor. It takes a small degree of intelligence to connect the dots. Maybe you need a picture website?

Only the most intelligent souls are licensed addressed then stamped permitted to enter Sectro heaven,

as if intelligent souls weren't in themselves part of the rarest elite and 144,000 club, non-existent.

"Yes I know him Peter, he's an intelligent soul, let him pass"

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm82kwaaGVw

Intelligence is nothing more than soul food, it becomes feces whenst digested. Take a laxative.

[Spectrism]

Only the most intelligent souls are licensed addressed then stamped permitted to enter Sectro heaven,

as if intelligent souls weren't in themselves part of the rarest elite and 144,000 club, non-existent.

"Yes I know him Peter, he's an intelligent soul, let him pass"

Intelligence is nothing more than soul food, it becomes feces whenst digested. Take a laxative.

There's no licensing or IQ requirement for heaven. It is by personal invitation only.

[Horn]

It is by personal invitation only.

Mirrored balls for everyone, while more exclusive box seat pricing available near the exit and coat check.

Disco boy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbXx2ag6L4I

[crimethink]

The Quran...now in two-ply!


7685

[crimethink]

There's no licensing or IQ requirement for heaven. It is by personal invitation only.

And all one has to do is ask for one. John 3:16.

[Norweger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRxSNEHF87Y

[Spectrism]

So allah (feces be upon him) just forgives sins and overlooks unrighteousness as long as one repents and does what he is told. This is the restoration to a faithful slave.

My God, YHWH, is perfect and holy. He does not tolerate the slightest sin. He does not forgive evil or take payment of sinful works. This is why only Messiah- pure and blameless, could pay the debt of man's sins. Only thru Messiah can man be restore to the true God.

Restoration thru Messiah brings one into the family of God- not as a slave, but as a son.

[Norweger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC1-dbTrRRA

[Serpo]

Everyone wants to go to heaven, everyone wants to please God , to have our sins forgiven ect ect

.....how selfish is all this in fact,

People immersed in the great karmic fold of a religion will find they have been conned , told stories, and lied to.

(catholics killed around 68million, Islams numbers would be up there too........Im not really into wearing karmic debts of organisations that had to kill millions of people too get their message across.)

It is nigh impossible to find yourself threw a religion .

Our spirituality isnt like a supermarket where you go along and pick the best religion or the one that everyone else in your area is into and running with that.

Do you honestly think its that simple ..........its not ,its a lot more difficult but the difference is ,

Is that it is true.

[Serpo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC1-dbTrRRA

I find the simple stories brainwashing , too simple ,where as its not .

There is no group , there is no other person either that can find your true self.....there is only you........and this is what God wants more than anything......

Believing in something outside of ourselves is a direct slap in the face to God , by showing him that you have no faith in his amazing creation(yourself) but have to look further a field for the answers, the answers to a question that never needs to be asked.......

Im not disrespecting the message here and religion can help people live moral lives , its really about how serious a person is in their pursuit of what is really real.

Some people will see this clip and gain hope, maybe not here on gsus so much , but true believers.

Others will see this and react against it in some way.

If the answers to our spirituality lies in gigantic organizations , then show me where I can sign up,............except I wont.

We can see threw the banksters, we can see through big pharm ,we can see threw big governments.................

we need to be able to see through religion as well..........not necessarily condemning it , but see the truth of it...............

Its the last hold out for many people.

[crimethink]

catholics killed around 68million

This is inflated by a factor of 100 or 1000. It's similar in nature to the "4 billion" Jews killed according to the Babylonian Talmud; only that one is x 100,000 or more inflated. Or the most infamous one, the "holy" Six Million™, inflated by a "modest" factor of 10 to 15.

Surely the Roman church put to death innocent folks, as organizations holding power invariably do, but most of the fatalities were not "innocents." Lots of malevolent Jews, Maranos, Muslims, and cut-throat pagans, the latter two, at least, had no problem with conducting massacres themselves. For all its faults, the Roman church did God's Will, even when not recognizing it as such, and, maintained civilization in Europe against hostile, genocidal entities for many centuries.

[Spectrism]

I didn't want to put any time into this, but this post is so amazing that I have scratch my brain right through my skull and wonder how anyone could be so self-delusional. But alas... let's rip open the cover on this madness.



I find the simple stories brainwashing , too simple ,where as its not.

Well... so far... there could be a good argument for this. I sure was hoping to see one.




There is no group , there is no other person either that can find your true self.....there is only you........and this is what God wants more than anything......


So if there is no other person with an answer, why are you talking? Why should anyone listen to you- just some other person. And what exactly is a "true self"? If you had the courage to actually look inside yourself, you would find some horrible things. There is evil in you. Your selfishness, greed, jealousy, covetousness, and hate are your "true self". And you have a problem you cannot fix.


Believing in something outside of ourselves is a direct slap in the face to God,
Isn't "God" outside ourselves? If you say "no", then you think we are all gods with no higher authority. Then when I tell you to shut up you idiot, it is just the god in me telling you like it is, right? But then you will say the god in you does not feel the same. And there you have contradictory "gods" that are not gods at all.



by showing him that you have no faith in his amazing creation(yourself)

Anything created must have a creator. Any "God" that will be insulted must by definition then be another "person" outside of yourself. Do you realize your self-contradictory mind is twisted? You sound like singular-me.


but have to look further a field for the answers, the answers to a question that never needs to be asked.......


And I looked into the sky that does not exist, pondering the questions that never were, with a mind I never had.



Im not disrespecting the message here and religion can help people live moral lives , its really about how serious a person is in their pursuit of what is really real.


So you bought into the "sincerity is all that matters" crap. That is the new age, liberal mentality to excuse all failures while pretending to offer something valuable in good thoughts. Islam is not a religion. It is a political movement which seeks to dominate the world through violence, deception and elimination of all resistance.



If the answers to our spirituality lies in gigantic organizations , then show me where I can sign up,............except I wont.


So even if someone showed you something true, you already say you are predisposed to your happy delusions. Very ignorant of you.



We can see threw the banksters, we can see through big pharm ,we can see threw big governments.................
we need to be able to see through religion as well..........not necessarily condemning it , but see the truth of it...............


What is "religion"? You do not seem to have a handle on the various meanings of that word.


Its the last hold out for many people.
What is that supposed to mean?

People believe in what they believe in because they believe in it. Sounds stupid and circular, but that is what people are- stupid with circular reasoning. There is one thing that cuts thru that crap- Truth. Find it. It is more valuable than gold.

[Ponce]

I see the name of "crimethink" ......once again......where was he hiding? was he at work killing innocent people? or what?.......

Anyway.....the hate that must of you have for the Muslims is thanks to the propaganda given to you by the Zionist and Americanos........more harm has been done to you by the illegals and no one says anything about them.....tell me, what has a Muslim done to you?.........they have been around longer than us so that there must be a reason as to why they are still around.

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[crimethink]

There is no group , there is no other person either that can find your true self.....there is only you........and this is what God wants more than anything......

Believing in something outside of ourselves is a direct slap in the face to God , by showing him that you have no faith in his amazing creation(yourself) but have to look further a field for the answers, the answers to a question that never needs to be asked.......


All of human history is a horrible testament to what "the true self" is: a murderous, lying, thieving scumbag. One does not need the Bible to see and understand this. Rare it is find a human being who has not committed all three regularly, even if only symbolically (e.g., wishing someone dead). Impossible it is to find someone who has not committed one of the three. I have wished people dead, I have lied too many times to count, I have stolen by an objective definition, I have a problem with lust (I admire women). The difference between myself and those who claim to have no such sins is that I no longer lie to myself.

I admit I am broken, due to my own choices to follow the base, carnal nature within me.

I was a man overboard lost at sea, floating for a limited period until I sank beneath the waves. A hand is outstretched, saying, "Let me help you" to me and all who are like me. We can accept the Rescuer's hand, or we can say, "I am fine on my own, I will discover a way to survive, on my own." Of course, the fool chooses the latter, but, alas, that is the majority of humanity.

Relying on oneself for salvation or perfection is like a diseased man seeking healing through repetition of what made him sick.

The Talmud teaches that one does not need a Rescuer, that the Jews themselves are their own "messiah." This deceitful conceit has been sold to the Goyim, as well, with the various "New Age" self-development "philosophies." Most such "philosophies" are put forth by Talmudists, whether Khazar or Goyish Freemasonic.

Don't buy it. It will kill you.