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Serpo
3rd July 2015, 03:33 PM
Greek Banks Considering 30% Haircut On Deposits Over €8,000: FT http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden)
Submitted by Tyler Durden (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden) on 07/03/2015 15:56 -0400






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Last week in "For Greeks, The Nightmare Is Just Beginning: Here Come The Depositor Haircuts (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-30/greeks-nightmare-just-beginning-here-come-depositor-haircuts)," we warned that a Cyprus-style bail-in of Greek depositors may be imminent given the acute cash crunch that has brought the Greek banking sector to its knees and forced the Greek government to implement capital controls in a futile attempt to stem the flow.
The depositor "haircut" would be a function of the staggered ELA haircut that the ECB could impose to escalate the rhetoric between the two sides, and could take place with as little as a 10% increase in the ELA collateral haircut from its current 50% level.
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Unfortunately for Greeks, the ECB has frozen the ELA cap, meaning that as of last Sunday, Greek banks were no longer able to meet deposit outflows by tapping emergency liquidity from the Bank of Greece.
Now, with ATM liquidity expected to run out by Monday and with the country's future in the Eurozone still undecided, it appears as though Alexis Tsipras' promise (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-28/ignoring-tsipras-plea-calm-greeks-storm-atms-stores-gas-stations) that "deposits are safe" may be proven wrong.
According to FT, Greek banks are considering (http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/9963b74c-219c-11e5-aa5a-398b2169cf79.html#ixzz3erKfhfoV) a depositor bail-in that could see deposits above €8,000 haircut by "at least" 30%.
Via FT:



Greek banks are preparing contingency plans for a possible “bail-in” of depositors amid fears

The plans, which call for a “haircut” of at least 30 per cent on deposits above €8,000, sketch out an increasingly likely scenario for at least one bank, the sources said.

A Greek bail-in could resemble the rescue plan agreed by Cyprus in 2013, when customers’ funds were seized to shore up the banks, with a haircut imposed on uninsured deposits over €100,000.

It would be implemented as part of a recapitalisation of Greek banks that would be agreed with the country’s creditors — the European Commission, International Monetary Fund and European Central Bank.

“It [the haircut] would take place in the context of an overall restructuring of the bank sector once Greece is back in a bailout programme,” said one person following the issue. “This is not something that is going to happen immediately.”

Greek deposits are guaranteed up to €100,000, in line with EU banking directives, but the country’s deposit insurance fund amounts to only €3bn, which would not be enough to cover demand in case of a bank collapse.

With few deposits over €100,000 left in the banks after six months of capital flight, “it makes sense for the banks to consider imposing a haircut on small depositors as part of a recapitalisation. . . It could even be flagged as a one-off tax,” said one analyst.

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Earlier, via Bloomberg:


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-03/greek-banks-considering-30-haircut-deposits-over-%E2%82%AC8000-ft-reports

expat4ever
3rd July 2015, 06:18 PM
I dont feel sorry for anyone losing money in the banking system anymore. People getting fucked by the banks is making the news on a regular basis. If it hasnt clicked by now that the banking system is not a good place to be then it never will. You just cant fix stupid.

EE_
3rd July 2015, 06:28 PM
I dont feel sorry for anyone losing money in the banking system anymore. People getting fucked by the banks is making the news on a regular basis. If it hasnt clicked by now that the banking system is not a good place to be then it never will. You just cant fix stupid.

People sure don't put their money in a bank for the interest...they put it in the bank because it's safe.

expat4ever
3rd July 2015, 06:57 PM
People sure don't put their money in a bank for the interest...they put it in the bank because it's safe.
Very safe, the banks only steal it when they need it.

crimethink
4th July 2015, 01:04 AM
The safest place to lose your money is in the bank.

Shami-Amourae
4th July 2015, 02:02 AM
The safest place to lose your money is in the bank.

Actually it's a Stop sign in the middle of Detroit.

Neuro
4th July 2015, 03:11 AM
Actually it's a Stop sign in the middle of Detroit.
Do you think it can have something to do with the banksters? The Detroit mess created to make banks look relatively safe?

Serpo
4th July 2015, 03:48 AM
Well the more crooks out there , then the more we need 'safe"banks.........banks probably love crime....

crimethink
4th July 2015, 10:57 AM
Actually it's a Stop sign in the middle of Detroit.

That's not safe. LOL.

expat4ever
4th July 2015, 11:15 AM
You can make your own safe. Go to Lowes or HD and get some schedule 40 plastic pipe. Get the connections for a cleanout and attach one to each side. Now you have a waterproof safe you can bury anywhere. Safer than banks and protects against Gov confiscation. Deep hole in the back yard or even a forest is fine as long as you GPS the coordinates. Maybe tell one of your kids where it is just in case of sudden death.
http://www.lowes.com/pd_53292-1814-PVC+00106++1400_0__?productId=3134657

palani
4th July 2015, 11:40 AM
There is no money in any bank that does not belong to them.

And don't get the impression that a safe deposit box is safe either. Anything of value is subject to seizure.

Is it SAFE?

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singular_me
4th July 2015, 12:06 PM
Food collapse unfolding in Greece: Grocery store shelves to be stripped bare… supermarkets raided… home gardens now the new ‘secret weapon’ against starvation
http://www.naturalnews.com/050287_food_collapse_Greece_home_gardening.html


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something is definitely coming our way
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Bonkers’ Move Cuts Bank Guarantee By £10,000 (preparing for the crash they plan)
4th July 2015
‘Bank and building society customers stand to get £10,000 less if the financial institution they save with goes bust, the Bank of England has announced.

Deposits have been protected up to £85,000 since 2010, under the Financial Services Compensation Scheme (FSCS).

But the Bank said this level of compensation will be cut to £75,000 on 1 January because of a European directive.

The move has been slammed as “bonkers” and “absurd” by experts, who said it was another blow for savers, who have suffered with years of poor returns on their money.’
http://news.sky.com/story/1512937/bonkers-move-cuts-bank-guarantee-by-10k

expat4ever
4th July 2015, 01:13 PM
Pretty sure I can survive for awhile. Gardens are doing ok. Fig trees are starting to produce and fruit trees will be producing next year. I now have about 60 varieties of figs growing. Only a few producing this year but next year 1/2 will be producing and some of the ones that will be producing are very productive. Then the raspberries, goji berries, blackberries and strawberries are all kicking in too. Nuts from the hickory and black walnut. With very little effort I can kick it into high production and do just fine. Also have enough materials to build a make shift greenhouse to extend the season if something were to happen. Add in a couple month supply of beans and I should be all set for awhile. At the first sign of trouble I would also be at the grocery store loading up on more rice and beans and maybe even some ground beef that I can can and keep on hand. Most of the sheep wont go shopping until they tell them to on CNN so I am way ahead of the curve.

100-150 bulbs of garlic are ready in a couple weeks. Little bit of trading fodder. Did a plot of potatoes this year just for seed potatoes too. Mushroom spores and seeds galore in the fridge

Serpo
4th July 2015, 07:09 PM
July 1, 2015 10:53 pm
The past five days have been worse than all that has gone before





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Sir, Memory. No memory of life before the financial crisis; politics has dominated it ever since. But now I can hardly remember life before Friday night. Fear. I am terrified of tomorrow, all I now see is black. Uncertainty, leading us through our days, every remainder of hope for a brighter future being destroyed by the minute. I look at my three-year-old niece, I envy her ignorance, I envy her age. I am 21 years old and the past few days I feel tired by life. A referendum that supposedly gives me the right to define my future, seems to have taken it away.







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There are hundreds of people queueing at the ATMs and petrol stations, there is silence in the streets, people’s faces are frozen. This is the reality since Friday night. There are, and have been for a long time, people literally starving. However, it seems that instead of their situation improving, the rest of us will have no different a fate.
Families and friends divide in Yes and No camps. We are called to exercise our democratic right by voting on a referendum while having no tangible explanation of what will follow each decision. I see everyone I know ready to take this huge responsibility without even being prepared to do so. I notice us, arguing endlessly, everyone supporting their stance fervently, ego dominating minds and words, while having no clue as to what is really at stake.
We all want the crisis to end, we all crave growth and happiness. I do not remember my parents being free of stress and anxiety in the past years. I do not remember not noticing shops closing every month, or the rapid increase of beggars in the streets. People that, before the financial crisis, never had to beg for anything. However, the past five days have been worse than all that has been so far. They say that all we hear is propaganda; but we have lost our trust in all sides, now everything seems to be lies.
It feels like an end. The end of our lives as we knew them. Yes, the lives that, before Friday, we already thought could be better; now we realise they were better then. The only thing we truly wish for is that the worst is not yet to come.
Iliana Magra
Thessaloniki, Greece http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/2/1be16708-1f29-11e5-ab0f-6bb9974f25d0.html#axzz3erZPy24R

crimethink
4th July 2015, 07:27 PM
Anyone who does not heed this SCREAMING warning from Greece is an utter fool. This is coming to your land, soon. Trust in banks is trust in Satan.