James Corbett: a Boeing 757 (Flight 77) really did fly into the Pentagon

[PatColo]

First posted HERE (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?83264-New-World-Next-Week-J-Corbett-amp-J-E-Pilato&p=781592), but I figured worth it's own thread.
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JFetzer and Allen Weisbecker did a 30 minute segment critiquing Corbett's integrity. Yes Fetzer's got his own issues (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?71312-Critical-of-JFetzer-amp-JFriend-s-No-Planes-WTC-campaign) IMHO; while I know almost nothing of Weisbecker (*nothing* before seeing this). But what they nailed Corbett on is legit, IMHO. Advance the playbar to 1h 1m:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDvis2b6j_o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDvis2b6j_o


^ can stop watching at 1h 31m.

At issue is Corbett's promoting the story that a big 757 really did fly into the pentagon on 911. And he does this promotion in a sneaky, NLP way, where he's ostensibly indicting Rumsfeld's criminality, meanwhile slipping in eleven (11) mater-of-fact ref's to "when flight 77 flew into the pentagon." :(

This contrived "pentagon question" wedge issue marked a major point in the 911 Truth timeline, when around '08 somewhere (without digging around 7-8 years back to find a start date), a bunch of "Brand Name Truthers" revealed themselves, blew their covers, as deep cover gatekeeper/shills. So not to reinvent the wheel, the issue is discussed in this thread:
Thread: Conspiracy Theory with Gov. Jesse Ventura- 911 Pentagon Attack (Full Episode) (http://javascript<strong></strong>:void(0))


also see:
Corbett Flat Out Busted | Allan C. Weisbecker (http://blog.banditobooks.com/corbett-flat-out-busted/)

An Open Letter to James Corbett | Allan C. Weisbecker (http://blog.banditobooks.com/an-open-letter-to-james-corbett/)


Corbett schools his audience about "spotting disinfo"; same "Flip the Script & (Reverse) Project" playbook as "Delphi-Deanna" schooling her audience (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story) about the "Delphi Technique (http://javascript<strong></strong>:void(0))", as she blatantly employs Delphi in her re-bunking & promoting the Official Jooz.zion.gov Sandy Hoax Story... Fox/Hen House lol :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOQvMY0JlwA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOQvMY0JlwA


I'll still watch Corbett's stuff, same as I still listen to about 1/2 of Spingola's shows; all depends on topic & guest. Corbett's satires (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?62513-How-To-Foil-Your-Own-Terror-Plot-Corbett-satire-vid) are A++.

[Horn]

Looks completely chopped to me. The entire recording would need to be played.

Sounds like he was trying to get to the bottom of something at the time.

Does anyone need anything more than building 7 on 911? Really?

[PatColo]

Weisbecker said before he played it, that he chopped it dramatically, IE distilled it down to what's necessary to make his point. Corbett's 11 repetitions of variations of 77 approaching & hitting the pentagon are unambiguous. The whole Corbett speech was 28 minutes, so I appreciated the distillation. :)

Anyways here's the whole thing:


James Corbett presents to the 9/11 Revisited: Seeking the Truth conference in Kuala Lumpur (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-TISYtc9fs)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-TISYtc9fs

[PatColo]

I haven't followed Corbett closely enough over the years to know whether he maintains that scary moozlemismists did or didn't do 911. His 9/11: A Conspiracy Theory (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98) satire video says he doesn't buy the 911 OCT. But does his roasting of those who do believe it, leave open the door to LIHOP, IE 911 was 'allowed to happen', but scary moozlemismists still actually did it?

9/11: A Conspiracy Theory (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98

9/11: A Conspiracy Theory

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Transcript and sources: http://www.corbettreport.com/?p=2594

Everything you ever wanted to know about the 9/11 conspiracy theory in under 5 minutes.



So he describes in a mocking tone, the OCT about 77's corkscrew descent & crash into the pentagon. Notice he published that vid on 9/11/11. The 9/11 Revisited: Seeking the Truth conference in Kuala Lumpur (http://www.perdana4peace.org/events/conferences/911_revisited/)took place beginning 11/19/12, over 14 months after Corbett released his 911 satire video above; and he was there in KL, ostensibly taking for granted that 77 did fly into the pentagon. I wonder what, if anything, happened in that intervening 14 months? http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/smilies/300%20%2820%29.gif


Was America Attacked by Muslims on 9/11? | davidraygriffin.com (http://davidraygriffin.com/articles/was-america-attacked-by-muslims-on-911/)

[Horn]

Sometimes limited hangout is all you need (WC7 nothing more) closes all doors,

hang around a topic for too long and you start to fester like Fester in laser beam notions.

As far as Pentagon goes, nobody should be even get close except those on its guard.

[Dachsie]

Thank you, PatColo, for just today, August 23, 2017, letting me know of the existence of this particular thread. I guess the reason the 9-11 truth USUS weinerologist in residence, Dachsie, did not comment in this thread before is that I did not even know about this forum at the time of the posting of this thread.

To sort out what is going on in all of this gets quite complicated and requires deeper analysis than this forum usually does.

Weisbecker, who was a successful Hollywood screenplay writer in his past life, does us all a big favor in introducing us to Sunsteinian kinds of communication, that is, Neuro Linquistic Programming NLP. (By the way, some people have a natural ability to perform well and communicate well in the NLP mode. I noticed that in Alex Jones in 1998 or so when I started viewing him on his local public access TV show, only I did not know it was called NLP at the time.)

Weisbecker makes the point that Corbett is sending a message to "his handlers" that he is one hundred percent onboard with their game. The game is what is important, not the content of the game. It is content truth and integrity and fact and evidence that matters, not superficial performances that APPEAR to be telling a "truth", a "truth" that is a big lie.

By the way, I remember years ago when I was actively commenting on several forums about 9-11 that I pointed out that Minetta was a weasel. He was lying in typical NLP manner. I suspected way back then when Minetta story was breaking in real time that the whole story of "its 90 miles out, its 50 miles out etc..." was a whole big lie created out of whole cloth. The ostensible underlying true observation that Dr. Fetzer identifies is that Rumsfeld should have ordered a shoot-down if that story was true but Rumsfeld knew that story was not true so that is why he did not order a shoot-down, but that is NOT the important thing that should have been identified at the time about that whole little created Minetta scene. Minetta was lying and playing his role for his handlers in mouthing the whole false "testimony" just as was James Corbett in Koala Lampur speech.

Corbett has been rewarded with much success ($$$) for his sophisticated lying and disinformation forays and he has gathered many stupid sheeple fans over the years.

Minetta was rewarded for his lying and crisis acting skills with the Minetta Transportation Institute in San Jose California, a new world order death and slavery for all Agenda 21 entity.

http://transweb.sjsu.edu/

By the way, Dr. Fetzer had some kind of falling out with Weisbecker and stop interviewing him. That is too bad because both men, agnostics and atheists both, do have some important facts and truths to convey to us.

Will try not to get in to my 9-11 truthy teaching mode here, but "building 7" and term "controlled demolition" has been wrung through the Sunsteinian wordsmithing wringer more than anyone here will ever know.

[Neuro]

Thank you, PatColo, for just today, August 23, 2017, letting me know of the existence of this particular thread. I guess the reason the 9-11 truth USUS weinerologist in residence, Dachsie, did not comment in this thread before is that I did not even know about this forum at the time of the posting of this thread
Hrrmh, not trying to be an ass here, but according to your profile you became a member here in March 2014, and the thread was from summer 2015. You probably just missed it...

[Dachsie]

Hrrmh, not trying to be an ass here, but according to your profile you became a member here in March 2014, and the thread was from summer 2015. You probably just missed it...

Thank you for keeping me honest, Neuro. I guess I lied or just missed the posting of the thread.

[Neuro]

Thank you for keeping me honest, Neuro. I guess I lied or just missed the posting of the thread.

Either you are a very silly liar, or you just missed the thread. Your guess is as good as mine (actually your guess should be better). ;D

[Dachsie]

Either you are a very silly liar, or you just missed the thread. Your guess is as good as mine (actually your guess should be better). ;D

I guess if I defined "a very silly liar" as you do, Neuro, I would have to say that every time you have posted something that is mistaken or inaccurate, but not deliberately so, I could only reply

Takes one to know one.

[Neuro]

I guess if I defined "a very silly liar" as you do, Neuro, I would have to say that every time you have posted something that is mistaken or inaccurate, but not deliberately so, I could only reply

Takes one to know one.
Well I didn't yet define your "lie" as silly. But it is easy to do so. A) you had nothing to gain from your HYPOTHETICAL lie B) It was very easy to disprove. LOL! Putting it against Occam's razor would suggest it was an honest mistake instead of a silly lie, as I don't think you are silly.

Tell me when you have made up your mind re the issue, or are you still guessing you told a lie? ;D

[Dachsie]

Well I didn't yet define your "lie" as silly. But it is easy to do so. A) you had nothing to gain from your HYPOTHETICAL lie B) It was very easy to disprove. LOL! Putting it against Occam's razor would suggest it was an honest mistake instead of a silly lie, as I don't think you are silly.

Tell me when you have made up your mind re the issue, or are you still guessing you told a lie? ;D

I thought I had cancelled or deleted the posting of mine "I guess if I defined" as it was not only uncharitable but another mistake or "lie". I thought you were calling me a silly liar and I responded in kind which was wrong of me to do but it was also an inaccurate mistake on my part because, upon rereading your comment to which I was responding, you did not specifically call me a liar.

I do not understand your reasoning or your point. The current joking vernacular is "I lied" when someone is accused of saying something inaccurate.

God says we all have faulty judgement regarding what is truth because Adam ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Pilot said to the One who is Truth " What is truth?"

God also said "Woe to those who call evil good."

[crimethink]

Hrrmh, not trying to be an ass here, but according to your profile you became a member here in March 2014, and the thread was from summer 2015. You probably just missed it...

Dachsie has been more frequently posting Kosher bullshit as of late about Hitler being "pure Satanic evil." I've asked him/her to answer why his/her Catholic church failed to excommunicate Hitler if this was so. No reply, of course.

I think you just caught a fact that needs to be kept in mind. I'm not sure what to make of what you just caught, but I'm sure the Truth will reveal itself in the future, possibly the near future.

My personal experience has shown that such "discrepancies" usually result from someone trying to play multiple characters on a single forum.

[SockPuppet]

I thought I had cancelled or deleted the posting of mine "I guess if I defined" as it was not only uncharitable but another mistake or "lie". I thought you were calling me a silly liar and I responded in kind which was wrong of me to do but it was also an inaccurate mistake on my part because, upon rereading your comment to which I was responding, you did not specifically call me a liar.

I do not understand your reasoning or your point. The current joking vernacular is "I lied" when someone is accused of saying something inaccurate.

God says we all have faulty judgement regarding what is truth because Adam ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Pilot said to the One who is Truth " What is truth?"

God also said "Woe to those who call evil good."

calling someone a liar is a personal attack and a banable offence but if its called a silly liar is a gray area where its not really an attack, see?

[crimethink]

calling someone a liar is a personal attack and a banable offence but if its called a silly liar is a gray area where its not really an attack, see?

Calling someone a liar when they are lying is not a "personal attack." Calling them a lying mother fucker is a personal attack. ;D

[Dachsie]

calling someone a liar is a personal attack and a banable offence but if its called a silly liar is a gray area where its not really an attack, see?

Neuro, upon closer reading, appeared to not actually have called me any kind of liar...

"Either you are a very silly liar, or you just missed the thread. Your guess is as good as mine (actually your guess should be better). "

Your point is well taken, SockPuppet, and I did perceive something quite "left-handed" or "gray" about Neuro's comment. It was like he was saying I was a liar but just not a "silly liar." Then he proceeded to mess with "guessing" and "lying" and how I ought to know the difference.

Well, we were on the general topic of NLP and forms of deliberately unclear communication.

[Neuro]

Neuro, upon closer reading, appeared to not actually have called me any kind of liar...

"Either you are a very silly liar, or you just missed the thread. Your guess is as good as mine (actually your guess should be better). "

Your point is well taken, SockPuppet, and I did perceive something quite "left-handed" or "gray" about Neuro's comment. It was like he was saying I was a liar but just not a "silly liar." Then he proceeded to mess with "guessing" and "lying" and how I ought to know the difference.

Well, we were on the general topic of NLP and forms of deliberately unclear communication.
Well you actually called your self a liar, albeit with a tongue in cheek. Mercury is in retrograde, which I have learned recently
can create all kinds of miscommunications allegedly. I was just trying to have some innocent fun with your choice of words, no harm intended. But I guess one should be careful with that when Mercury is retrograde

[Dachsie]

"Sorry Neuro is a moderator/admin and you are not allowed to ignore him or her."

Too bad when we cannot protect ourselves from the near occasion of sin because a moderator/admin has a heart and soul in retrograde.

[Horn]

I was so sure everyone at forum were heart and soul in retrograde.

[Neuro]

"Sorry Neuro is a moderator/admin and you are not allowed to ignore him or her."

Too bad when we cannot protect ourselves from the near occasion of sin because a moderator/admin has a heart and soul in retrograde.

Wow, there are still some forum software details that consider me a moderator/admin. Interesting though you wanted to put me on ignore merely because I jokingly pointed out your inability to communicate clearly, and you misreading my comments. ;D Really I have no ill will towards you

[Neuro]

I was so sure everyone at forum were heart and soul in retrograde.

Nah, it is just me that is the problem here!

[Neuro]

Sorry Neuro
Apology accepted!

[Joshua01]

Why would anyone think you were trying to be an ass Neuro? :rolleyes:
Hrrmh, not trying to be an ass here, but according to your profile you became a member here in March 2014, and the thread was from summer 2015. You probably just missed it...

[Neuro]

Why would anyone think you were trying to be an ass Neuro? :rolleyes:

Exactly, an ass would probably imply that the Dachsie that wrote the above is not the same Dachsie that joined in March 2014...