View Full Version : Five new planets raises possibility of super-advanced civilisations
singular_me
14th July 2015, 07:38 AM
true or not about this OP.... the recipe to make it that long is to grasp dualism, reality as a perception (replacing of dogmas with questioning everything 24/7) and that only voluntaryism (regarding any form of power as evil) can fix that.
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The exoplanets that hint at life billions of years older than Earth: Five new planets raises possibility of super-advanced civilisations
14th July 2015
A solar system including five Earth-sized planets has been discovered which is so ancient it was born not long after the dawn of time – and experts say it could help find life on planets far older than we expected.
The system’s parent star, named Kepler-444, is 117 light years from Earth and 11.2 billion years old.
When the sun-like star was formed out of a primordial cloud of gas and dust, the universe was just a fifth of its current age.’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3159779/The-exoplanets-hint-life-billions-years-older-Earth-Five-new-planets-raises-possibility-super-advanced-civilisations.html
singular_me
14th July 2015, 07:48 AM
weird, I was in edit mode, I thought... hope madfrank can delete the duplicated threads asap. sorry
expat4ever
14th July 2015, 08:37 AM
I'm sure there's other intelligent life out there. The chances of it developing that early and then surviving this long would be pretty slim.
They would have had to evolve to at least out level and then some to survive any meteor or asteroid impacts by either temporarily leaving the planet or permanently leaving.
They also would have had to overcome the social issues we have today.
They would probably be a one world government where the entire planet worked together for common goals.
They would have either learned early on to live in harmony with nature or they would have had to advance quick enough to be able to do off planet mining to provide resources for the planet.
If we look at our own society we can see that the industrial revolution has just really gotten started if we look at it in a timeline of Earths age vrs how long this has been going on.
If they learned to harness the atom in a clean way, fusion vrs fission, early on then that would be a key to advancing more quickly and successfully IMO.
Looking at us just imagine a civilization even 1000 years ahead of us. (This is all assum9ing everyone doesnt blow themselves up at some point) Now imagine 10,000 years ahead or a million.
Just in our lifetimes we have made discoveries and have an understanding of the universe that we only imagined as a kid. It was only about 15-20 years ago that we confirmed that there were even other planets out there. Within 100 years we will probably know of 100,000 or more planets and once again our understanding of the universe will change. Instead of wondering if other stars have planets we may be wondering if there are any other stars that dont have them.
Interesting to think about. I look forward to the next 20 years of discoveries.
osoab
14th July 2015, 08:37 AM
Did NASA pay for an upgraded version of Photoshop?
midnight rambler
14th July 2015, 08:43 AM
If they learned to harness the atom in a clean way
We've been hornswoggled by the Death Cult into believing absolute nonsense about 'nuclear power' so as to distract us away from the power each of us has. The limitless power comes from the aether.
Shami-Amourae
14th July 2015, 08:49 AM
But the world is flat.....or concave.....or....errrr.
All of Space is just Photoshop.
Also there is a god.
http://forum.gon.com/images/smilies/facepalm.gif
Jewboo
14th July 2015, 09:01 AM
I'm sure there's other intelligent life out there. The chances of it developing that early and then surviving this long would be pretty slim.
They would have had to evolve to at least out level and then some to survive any meteor or asteroid impacts by either temporarily leaving the planet or permanently leaving.
They also would have had to overcome the social issues we have today.
They would probably be a one world government where the entire planet worked together for common goals.
They would have either learned early on to live in harmony with nature or they would have had to advance quick enough to be able to do off planet mining to provide resources for the planet...
We polluted Earth in just the past century and the only reason TPTB are now "exploring space" is to flee the shithole they destroyed. If we do find another livable planet we will invade and colonize it. I imagine any space visitor will come here looking to do the same.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPMmC0UAnj0
http://www.geforce.com/sites/default/files-world/featured_image/pc-games/FeaturedImage-sid-meiers-civilization-iv-colonization.jpg
Howdy Neighbors!
:rolleyes:
Shami-Amourae
14th July 2015, 09:05 AM
We get to visit, explore, and conquer the Andromeda galaxy in about 1.5 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uG8V9dRqSsw
:D
crimethink
14th July 2015, 10:26 AM
We've been hornswoggled by the Death Cult into believing absolute nonsense about 'nuclear power' so as to distract us away from the power each of us has. The limitless power comes from the aether.
Now known as Zero Point Energy. :)
crimethink
14th July 2015, 10:29 AM
But the world is flat.....or concave.....or....errrr.
All of Space is just Photoshop.
Also there is a god.
http://forum.gon.com/images/smilies/facepalm.gif
You have complete faith in Never A Straight Answer (NASA) and astronomers/astrophysicists, who all would call you a monstrous "racist," but you insist there is no God.
We humans do not "know" what is "out there." Most people simply have faith in what "they" say, and "they" simply assume we "know" things because the data appear to indicate it.
In reality, cosmology, like so many things, is truly a mystery. Star Trek is not reality.
madfranks
14th July 2015, 10:41 AM
weird, I was in edit mode, I thought... hope madfrank can delete the duplicated threads asap. sorry
Sorry about the forum problems lately, I deleted the duplicate threads. I hope JQP will put some attention into tuning up the mechanics of this place, but we will have to wait and see.
singular_me
14th July 2015, 12:07 PM
glad that you jump in that bandwagon. welcome... yes energy/electricity/electromagnetism comes from somewhere that is invisible to us... that is why we cannot see dark matter.
We've been hornswoggled by the Death Cult into believing absolute nonsense about 'nuclear power' so as to distract us away from the power each of us has. The limitless power comes from the aether.
Neuro
14th July 2015, 02:14 PM
glad that you jump in that bandwagon. welcome... yes energy/electricity/electromagnetism comes from somewhere that is invisible to us... that is why we cannot see dark matter.
All the energy that you have ever consumed, comes from physically well known sources, chemical, kinetic, electromagnetic or nuclear, another reason why you cannot see dark matter is because there isn't any...
Shami-Amourae
14th July 2015, 02:32 PM
glad that you jump in that bandwagon. welcome... yes energy/electricity/electromagnetism comes from somewhere that is invisible to us... that is why we cannot see dark matter.
I think that Dark Matter was literally just invented to fill in the holes of the Big Bang Theory.
expat4ever
14th July 2015, 02:34 PM
I see dark matter. But only at night when I close my eyes.
crimethink
14th July 2015, 02:35 PM
I think that Dark Matter was literally just invented to fill in the holes of the Big Bang Theory.
"Science" has a tendency to do that.
Shami-Amourae
14th July 2015, 02:42 PM
"Science" has a tendency to do that.
I call that "Science", Critical Theory.
I know you think I'm cucking for the "Scientific" Establishment, but I'm not. I hate them more than you think.
We have a disagreement on Christianity versus Atheism. That includes Creation versus Evolution. My belief in Evolution causes me to view various things that come into conflict with Christianity. I think that's where our core disagreement ends though.
By the way I admit I could be wrong about Evolution, but it's the best Theory I've seen that explains things. Other possibilities include the Universe being a giant computer simulation (like The Matrix.)
Jewboo
14th July 2015, 02:57 PM
All the energy that you have ever consumed, comes from physically well known sources, chemical, kinetic, electromagnetic or nuclear, another reason why you cannot see dark matter is because there isn't any...
https://dinglewell8.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/food_pyramid.jpg
Life not just energy. Everything we call food is another living organism. We literally take life to eat.
https://40.media.tumblr.com/c88c7a899d56c5be62b64cbf32380c0e/tumblr_mm5wwqzd301sps5h1o1_1280.jpg
Bacon and Lamb Chop
:(??
http://www.saffronnc.com/images/LAZEEZ_LAMB_CHOPS.jpghttp://cdn.sheknows.com/articles/candied-bacon.jpg
http://authoritynutrition.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/chicken-and-egg.jpg
We also eat the Unborn
Shami-Amourae
14th July 2015, 03:19 PM
That's not quite true. The bottom of the food chain eats inorganic compounds.
They are known as Primary Producers. Most Plants and algae are Primary Producers.
Some plants are carnivores, like the Venus Fly Trap.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_producers
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_producers)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trophic_level
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trophic_level)
Neuro
14th July 2015, 03:29 PM
https://dinglewell8.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/food_pyramid.jpg
Life not just energy. Everything we call food is another living organism. We literally take life to eat.
https://40.media.tumblr.com/c88c7a899d56c5be62b64cbf32380c0e/tumblr_mm5wwqzd301sps5h1o1_1280.jpg
Bacon and Lamb Chop
:(??
http://www.saffronnc.com/images/LAZEEZ_LAMB_CHOPS.jpghttp://cdn.sheknows.com/articles/candied-bacon.jpg
http://authoritynutrition.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/chicken-and-egg.jpg
We also eat the Unborn
It is all refined solar energy. I think we got that food pyramid courtesy of Lyndon B Johnson, in that poultry egg and milk producers, refused to finance his election campaign sufficiently, and probably a large reason for the obesity epidemic raging today, or was it Nixon?
Jewboo
14th July 2015, 04:07 PM
It is all refined solar energy.
http://www.mandalaysun.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/TanOnBeach.jpg
This Ain't Collecting Much Nourishment
:)
Neuro
14th July 2015, 04:18 PM
http://www.mandalaysun.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/TanOnBeach.jpg
This Ain't Collecting Much Nourishment
:)
Humans are better at getting other species to collect solar energy for us...
singular_me
15th July 2015, 11:12 AM
where is electricity coming from??? since when consequence is cause?
which/what creates/generates all the energy sources you mention If you can answer this one - and you cannot - just stop stalking
in every sciences thread you reveal yourself further more atheistic/agnostic, really.
the invisible RULES the visible: ie Spirit, Aether... (which modern scientists call dark matter)
All the energy that you have ever consumed, comes from physically well known sources, chemical, kinetic, electromagnetic or nuclear, another reason why you cannot see dark matter is because there isn't any...
singular_me
15th July 2015, 11:22 AM
another atheistic answer... tell me WHERE is energy coming from instead of telling it just is, that atoms self-organize.. Thats BS. There is a Force we cannot perceive and that is the BLOOD of the Universe and that glues it together.
calling consequences "causes" is a grave mistake.
BS: I dont believe in the big bang theory anymore... and it didnt take me too much of a stretch at all to abandon the idea of it... however it is really odd that so many cannot fathom a "Prime Cause of Everything".... and that religions call God. Makes me laugh to see someone like Crimethink giving you a thank.
I think that Dark Matter was literally just invented to fill in the holes of the Big Bang Theory.
Neuro
15th July 2015, 11:39 AM
where is electricity coming from??? since when consequence is cause?
which/what creates/generates all the energy sources you mention If you can answer this one - and you cannot - just stop stalking
in every sciences thread you reveal yourself further more atheistic/agnostic, really.
the invisible RULES the visible: ie Spirit, Aether... (which modern scientists call dark matter)
Electricity comes from human built generators, or as in my case at my BOL solar panels, dimwit!
There is absolutely no need to invoke a presence in god to explain electricity, as there wasn't an reliable supply of it before humans invented and constructed devices that generate and distribute it!
Neuro
15th July 2015, 11:45 AM
another atheistic answer... tell me WHERE is energy coming from instead of telling it just is, that atoms self-organize.. Thats BS. There is a Force we cannot perceive and that is the BLOOD of the Universe and that glues it together.
calling consequences "causes" is a grave mistake.
BS: I dont believe in the big bang theory anymore... and it didnt take me too much of a stretch at all to abandon the idea of it... however it is really odd that so many cannot fathom a "Prime Cause of Everything".... and that religions call God. Makes me laugh to see someone like Crimethink giving you a thank.
The 'scientists', you quoted above, invented dark matter and dark energy as an explanation for the anomalies in observations failing to confirm big bang theory. Take away big bang theory and there is absolutely no reason to cling on to non-observable matter and energy, moron!
expat4ever
15th July 2015, 11:54 AM
The big bang theory is wrong and will be a thing of the past within the next 10 years.
singular_me
15th July 2015, 12:27 PM
I am talking of electricity and magnetism circulating throughout the entire Whole Cosmos... where is the energy coming from... answer this ... continue to elude the question and I will cast you as an agnostic/atheist
Electricity comes from human built generators, or as in my case at my BOL solar panels, dimwit!
There is absolutely no need to invoke a presence in god to explain electricity, as there wasn't an reliable supply of it before humans invented and constructed devices that generate and distribute it!
singular_me
15th July 2015, 12:36 PM
you are the moron, sorry... the Aether debate is as old as mankind. The big bang model is a joke but that doesnt mean that Aether does not exist. In every theory, even deeply flawed , there are several true assumptions/observations/facts.
The same hold true for the electric universe theory, it cannot be 100% true neither although it is going to bury all others, even if it still can be improved and it surely will... eventually the Aether debate which Tesla and the like recognize as very important, will come back into force....
The 'scientists', you quoted above, invented dark matter and dark energy as an explanation for the anomalies in observations failing to confirm big bang theory. Take away big bang theory and there is absolutely no reason to cling on to non-observable matter and energy, moron!
Neuro
15th July 2015, 12:41 PM
I am talking of electricity and magnetism circulating throughout the entire Whole Cosmos... where is the energy coming from... answer this ... continue to elude the question and I will cast you as an agnostic/atheist
I don't know where it is coming from. It's there. The holographic universe theory, you subscribe to, says it is an illusion, so it is an odd question for you to ask to begin with.
Cebu_4_2
15th July 2015, 01:07 PM
I am talking of electricity and magnetism circulating throughout the entire Whole Cosmos... where is the energy coming from... answer this ... continue to elude the question and I will cast you as an agnostic/atheist
Since planets and galaxies are shaped like potatoes I think we have the answer.
http://www.scienceprojectlab.com/image-files/potatobattery4.jpg
Neuro
15th July 2015, 01:36 PM
Since planets and galaxies are shaped like potatoes I think we have the answer.
http://www.scienceprojectlab.com/image-files/potatobattery4.jpg
LOL she really doesn't need another theory... ;D
Horn
15th July 2015, 01:56 PM
this is what happens when u try to answer the question of the universe on a gold and silver forum. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IydYLIsT9LA
Jewboo
15th July 2015, 02:14 PM
which/what creates/generates all the energy sources you mention If you can answer this one - and you cannot - just stop stalking...in every sciences thread you reveal yourself further more atheistic/agnostic, really...the invisible RULES the visible: ie Spirit, Aether...
http://blog.genealogybank.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/photo-0107-2015-nikola-tesla-quote.png
:rolleyes: what a silly Tutsi African woman who assumes The Gods are behind that which she cannot understand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCQIGiXf0JA
GOLDISSIMA'S TUTSI TRIBE
Serpo
15th July 2015, 02:47 PM
Jewboo the troll...over and over and over
Provides nothing useful to the forum , justhttp://bitsocialmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Internet-Troll.jpg trollin
Santa
15th July 2015, 03:22 PM
Since planets and galaxies are shaped like potatoes I think we have the answer.
http://www.scienceprojectlab.com/image-files/potatobattery4.jpg
That's frikin genius. Take a macro shot of the surface of a potato, invert in Photoshop and you have a NASA Hubble Deep Space image.
osoab
15th July 2015, 05:36 PM
http://www.mandalaysun.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/TanOnBeach.jpg
This Ain't Collecting Much Nourishment
:)
You can't see all that Vitamin D?
crimethink
15th July 2015, 06:58 PM
http://blog.genealogybank.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/photo-0107-2015-nikola-tesla-quote.png
While not trying to defend Goldissima's aether theories, Tesla did believe in his own aether theory, which is consistent with what we know about Zero Point Energy now.
I suspect Tesla never released his research since he knew it would be used for weapons...and he hated war. When he died, the research went to the Army. It was combined with Operation Paperclip research from Hans Kammler's unit, and is now behind most of the "UFOs" which have been seen since right after the war.
Horn
15th July 2015, 08:39 PM
If you look at the moon just when it rises you can see the Aether's shadow in China.
that also could be carbon from coal burning energy.
singular_me
16th July 2015, 01:21 PM
Book, i feel sad for you that you need to debase anything that isnt white.. and that you cannot stand the fact that my understanding of the universe surpasses your freudian tribalistic' theories... if genealogy is for you all what matters, then you deserve your race war, you are asking for it. Like I said, months ago, with your mindset you'd have supported slavery whose consequences you are fighting.
it is very dangerous to quote tesla when one is not fully aware of his thinking.
“Explaining the Workings of the Universe without recognizing the existence of the ether is futile.” – Nikola Tesla http://aetherforce.com/teslas_most_suppressed_quote/
mixing up threads here but who cares
Book, when you have an answer to the revelation 21 and why all those sacred numbers in it, just let me know. And please start a new thread when you have figured out where all the cosmic energy is coming from, I will be delighted.
ps: people never see my skin color when I address them because my thinking is too multi-dimensional, do not have the cliche facial black features and speak 3 languages . LOL
Horn
16th July 2015, 01:29 PM
http://www.mreclipse.com/Special/image/LEDiagram1c.JPG
http://i.space.com/images/i/000/042/601/original/total-lunar-eclipse-april-15-mt-lemmon-skycenter-3.jpg?1412280292
the Earth's umbral shadow (http://www.lifeslittlemysteries.com/why-does-the-moon-turn-red-during-a-lunar-eclipse--1207/).
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