Are we alone in the universe? (Is It Time to Accept That We're Alone in the Universe)

[ximmy]

Is It Time to Accept That We're Alone in the Universe? (http://io9.com/is-it-time-to-accept-that-were-alone-in-the-universe-1654960619)


We have yet to discover any signs of aliens, a troubling observation that has led to much speculation. One possible solution to the Great Silence is that nobody's out there. It's a conclusion that sounds impossible to believe, but there may be something to it. Here's why we may be alone in the universe.
Photo: "Lost Souls (http://io9.com/gaze-in-wonder-at-the-best-astronomy-photographs-of-the-1636299867)" by Julie Fletcher (http://www.juliefletcherphotography.com.au/).

Ever since physicist Enrico Fermi posed the question — where is everybody? — people have been wondering why we haven't seen any signs of extraterrestrial civilizations. As Fermi pointed out, the math just doesn't add up. Our galaxy, at 13 billion years old, has been around long enough for aliens to explore and colonize it many times over by now (recent work (http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2014ApJ...792...26W) shows it should take less than a billion years, perhaps even as little as a few tens of millions of years). Clearly, we should have seen somebody by now.

http://io9.com/is-it-time-to-accept-that-were-alone-in-the-universe-1654960619


Humans May be One of the First Advanced Species in the Universe

Arthur C Clarke (http://www.clarkefoundation.org/) once wrote that a trillion years from now an advanced civilization will look back at us with envy and say "They knew the Universe when it was young."
We may soon discover that intelligent life, indeed, may be in it's "very young" stage in the observable Universe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observable_universe). Its 200 billion galaxies show a clear potential to continue on as we see them today for hundreds of billions of years, if not much longer. Because planets and life are so young in our Universe, says Harvard's Dimitar Sasselov (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimitar_Sasselov), perhaps "the human species are not late comers to the party. We may be among the early ones."

That may explain why we see no evidence of "them" and may go a long way to explaining the famous Fermi Paradox, which asks if there's advanced intelligent life in the Universe (http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2012/08/could-there-be-life-in-the-universe-far-older-ours-planetary-building-blocks-after-big-bang-suggest-.html), where are they? Why haven't we discovered any evidence of their existence http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2012/10/humans-may-be-one-of-the-first-intelligent-species-in-the-universe-weekend-feature.html

Intelligent life in the universe?


Scientific arguments suggest that alien civilizations should be common in our galaxy. If so, where is everybody? That question is known as the Fermi paradox.

By Robert Scherrer (http://theconversation.com/profiles/robert-scherrer-163665), Vanderbilt University (http://theconversation.com/institutions/vanderbilt-university)
We’ve been conditioned by television and movies to accept the likelihood of intelligent life elsewhere in the universe. “Of course there’s intelligent life out there; I saw it last week on Star Trek.” We’ve seen it all, from the cute and cuddly ET to the fanged monstrosity of Alien......

One possibility is that intelligent life really is rare. My own personal opinion (and it’s just an opinion) is that life is common, but intelligent life is rare (something many of us suspect based on our own experience). While life developed in the relative blink of an eye after the birth of the solar system, it took billions of years before we smarties showed up on the scene. And remember that “survival of the fittest” doesn’t always mean “survival of the smartest.” While intelligence is certainly a useful survival trait, it seems far from inevitable. If not for an errant asteroid (http://dx.doi.org/10.1126/science.208.4448.1095), the dinosaurs might still rule the world.

http://earthsky.org/space/intelligent-life-universe-aliens-contact

[crimethink]

We are not alone in the Universe! God is everywhere we are. "I am with you always, to the very end of the age."

There are also countless "extraterrestrials" in the Universe with us. Only these "ETs" are not aliens from other planets, but beings from another dimension. Malevolent beings.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htR3yHItkSI

The idea of "intelligent life" separate from God's creation here on Earth is pure assumption. Complete faith in the preaching of so-called "scientists." And in false prophets like Gene Roddenberry.

[ximmy]

We are alone in the universe: Professor Brian Cox says alien life is all but impossible and humanity is 'unique'

Presenter makes bold claim during BBC documentary
He says the spark of life on earth billions of years ago was a fluke
'We still struggle to understand what happened. It's incredibly unusual'



The biological process which lead to intelligent life on earth was a fluke that is unlikely to have been repeated anywhere else in the universe, claims Professor Brian Cox.
The presenter and scientist blames a series of 'evolutionary bottlenecks' for the lack of extraterrestrial life on other planets, despite there being a mind-bogglingly vast number of them in the galaxy.
Humanity miraculously overcame them in a chance binding of two single cells merging somewhere in the mists of time, he said.
'There is only one advanced technological civilisation in this galaxy and there has only ever been one - and that's us. We are unique.
'It's a dizzying thought. There are billions of planets out there, surely there must have been a second genesis?
'But we must be careful because the story of life on this planet shows that the transition from single-celled life to complex life may not have been inevitable.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2809183/We-universe-Professor-Brian-Cox-says-alien-life-impossible-humanity-unique.html#ixzz3fty4ApHw
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[Sparky]

The whole discussion is compounded by the notion of infinite time and space. These do not fit within our physical universe model, and tend to point to the existence of God and a spiritual realm.

[Shami-Amourae]

I think life is common in the Universe, but the chances of us meeting intelligent life are probably close to zero when considering how distant stars are from another and the vastness of space. I am hoping there's life under the ice surface of Europa though. That would be cool.


Now that we found out the Charon isn't a frozen Mass Effect Relay (http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Charon_Relay) we can safely say we won't be going anywhere.
:(

[expat4ever]

The universe is sort of a large place. If there was life a billion light years away we would never know it.
Next, how long have we even had capabilities to look and listen? Not long in the galactic scheme of things. The universe is almost 14 billion years old. We have had capabilities for maybe 50.

Take a look at our satellites at night. If you watch the sky you can see them pass pretty often. If your never out at night you never see them so might think they dont really exist. They are there and we can see them, its just a matter of being at the right place at the right time.

As I mentioned the Universe is almost 14 billion years old. Our solar system is only 4 billion. The only life we have a hope in detecting is one similar to our own. Others may be more primitive, others more advanced but only one on a similar path is going to have the same capabilities which really isnt much in the way of galactic communication.

Then we have the 1% theory. It goes something like this. Between chimps and humans the DNA is only 1% different. If any species were 1% smarted than humans (Probably not that hard to do) then to them we are nothing but chimps and probably couldnt communicate with them anyway. 5-10% above us and we cant even imagine what that would be like. They would be learning string theory in kindergarden and that would be like us learning to count to 10.

Even if there is a civilization that went on a similar trajectory as we did. When they invented radio and TV maybe they used it as a learning tool and graduate from HS at 12 years old. That could put them decades or even a century ahead of us in technology. If they used advances to advance their civilization versus us who use technological advances to pad corporate spreadsheets, the differences would be huge.

Look up Neil Degrasse Tyson on your tube. He does a piece on the 1% and talks about a lot of this stuff.

[expat4ever]

Humanity miraculously overcame them in a chance binding of two single cells merging somewhere in the mists of time, he said.
And this is where gods comes into play. Otherwise the chances of this occuring are so slim that (As I have heard it put before) we would have a better chance of a tornado blowing through a junk yard and creating a boeing 747 or something LOL.

Oh and the reason I said Gods
Then the LORD God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of Us Genesis3:22.

[palani]

Are we alone in the universe?
I have heard that marriage is a state more lonely than solitude.

[Shami-Amourae]

The universe is sort of a large place. If there was life a billion light years away we would never know it.
Next, how long have we even had capabilities to look and listen? Not long in the galactic scheme of things. The universe is almost 14 billion years old. We have had capabilities for maybe 50.

Take a look at our satellites at night. If you watch the sky you can see them pass pretty often. If your never out at night you never see them so might think they dont really exist. They are there and we can see them, its just a matter of being at the right place at the right time.

As I mentioned the Universe is almost 14 billion years old. Our solar system is only 4 billion. The only life we have a hope in detecting is one similar to our own. Others may be more primitive, others more advanced but only one on a similar path is going to have the same capabilities which really isnt much in the way of galactic communication.

Then we have the 1% theory. It goes something like this. Between chimps and humans the DNA is only 1% different. If any species were 1% smarted than humans (Probably not that hard to do) then to them we are nothing but chimps and probably couldnt communicate with them anyway. 5-10% above us and we cant even imagine what that would be like. They would be learning string theory in kindergarden and that would be like us learning to count to 10.

Even if there is a civilization that went on a similar trajectory as we did. When they invented radio and TV maybe they used it as a learning tool and graduate from HS at 12 years old. That could put them decades or even a century ahead of us in technology. If they used advances to advance their civilization versus us who use technological advances to pad corporate spreadsheets, the differences would be huge.

Look up Neil Degrasse Tyson on your tube. He does a piece on the 1% and talks about a lot of this stuff.

I think another factor is that organics create synthetic life which eventually replaces them.

Once this happens the desire for exploration dies down since maybe exploration is more of an organic construct.

[SWRichmond]

Some of you don't understand just how big "big" really is. The fact that there's no one else in our neighborhood is inconsequential.

[expat4ever]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nR9XEqrCvw

[Shami-Amourae]

Couldn't resist...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVsAcwWTOsU
;)

[expat4ever]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LGQrVSxPvg

[Neuro]

Some of you don't understand just how big "big" really is. The fact that there's no one else in our neighborhood is inconsequential.
We might as well assume we are alone... ;)

[EE_]

Some of you don't understand just how big "big" really is. The fact that there's no one else in our neighborhood is inconsequential.

Some of you don't understand how small "small" really is, also.

[ximmy]

Some of you don't understand just how big "big" really is. The fact that there's no one else in our neighborhood is inconsequential.



It seems to me, the larger the universe is, the more likely we would have been contacted by little green men.

If it is really big, I mean big big, several species of little green men should be visiting us.

[Shami-Amourae]

What if being too big meant the distances are so great that intelligent organisms would ever come in contact with one another?

[Jewboo]

Some of you don't understand just how big "big" really is. The fact that there's no one else in our neighborhood is inconsequential.



http://www.armstrongmuseum.org/sites/default/files/imagecache/product_full/Universe-you-are-here-poster.jpg

:o

[ximmy]

What if being too big meant the distances are so great that intelligent organisms would ever come in contact with one another?

You mean, like... if we had... an entire universe to ourselves?

[osoab]

I think life is common in the Universe, but the chances of us meeting intelligent life are probably close to zero when considering how distant stars are from another and the vastness of space. I am hoping there's life under the ice surface of Europa though. That would be cool.


Now that we found out the Charon isn't a frozen Mass Effect Relay (http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Charon_Relay) we can safely say we won't be going anywhere.
:(

Your mad Photoshop skills would blow NASA away.

http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/pluto_charon_color_final.png



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzyQUI6965A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzyQUI6965A

[ximmy]

New Super-Hubble Telescope Could Find out if we are Alone in the Universe July 8, 2015 | by Jonathan O'Callaghan
http://www.iflscience.com/sites/www.iflscience.com/files/styles/ifls_large/public/blog/%5Bnid%5D/Mirror-comp-S600.png?itok=Hi0JPaRb

When it comes to astronomy, bigger is almost always better.
Although the iconic Hubble Space Telescope is set to be eclipsed by a telescope three times its size in 2018, the James Webb Space Telescope (http://www.jwst.nasa.gov/) (JWST), astronomers have already proposed an even more impressive space observatory that would put both of them to shame. And tantalizingly, it could reveal how rare or common life is in the Universe.

So far it has been pretty rare... :(

[Shami-Amourae]

Are you a Flat Earther, osoab?

[osoab]

Are you a Flat Earther, osoab?

I stated in your thread that I would like proof that planes flying non-stop across the Southern Hemisphere. Like South Africa to Australia.

[midnight rambler]

Ok, so exactly how do you guys explain the extra-dimensional entities popping in and out here on this plane anyway??

[ximmy]

I stated in your thread that I would like proof that planes flying non-stop across the Southern Hemisphere. Like South Africa to Australia.

If the earth was flat, we would just have to dig through it to get to outer space.... and a meteor could pass through...
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Earth/Holes/Russia_01.jpg

[osoab]

If the earth was flat, we would just have to dig through it to get to outer space.... and a meteor could pass through...


If we can't get to space from above, then how will drilling all the way down get us there?


edit: grammar/typing sucking tonight

[crimethink]

Look up Neil Degrasse Tyson on your tube. He does a piece on the 1% and talks about a lot of this stuff.

Neil Degrasse Tyson is a Magic Negro. If he has any actual competence, it's a form of idiot savantism.

[osoab]

Ok, so exactly how do you guys explain the extra-dimensional entities popping in and out here on this plane anyway??

They are not of our plane? http://i46.tinypic.com/205cj07.jpg

[crimethink]

I think another factor is that organics create synthetic life which eventually replaces them.


You assume, as with all "transhumanists," that "life" is comprised only of "the seen," that is, merely of a particular arrangement of atoms, molecules, and electrical impulses.

If we theists are correct, "life" has an essential component which cannot be duplicated by men.

Sure, artificial intelligence will achieve a fairly high state of competence, but artificial "beings" of such nature are not new. The Talmud & Kabbalah tell of them from centuries ago, when rabbis conjured up artificial "men" called Golems. These were created from inanimate matter via sorcery, where a hyperdimensional being (then called a "demon") inhabited it.

I imagine that "transhumanist" developments are working along these lines, only under the rubric of "science." If "artificial life" is created, it will surely be via an update of the satanic Kosher process.

Michael Hoffman tells of a large, mysterious artifact from the Trinity test, known as "The Bottle," which remains officially unexplained to today. Rumor is that it was an experiment to create a modern Golem using neutron radiation. Similar stories about the Large Hadron Collider exist.

[crimethink]

Some of you don't understand just how big "big" really is. The fact that there's no one else in our neighborhood is inconsequential.

Just how "big" is the Universe? Please explain it to us without use of hypotheses, theories, and projections. In other words, provable, verifiable, objective measurement, not supposition.

[Neuro]

What if being too big meant the distances are so great that intelligent organisms would ever come in contact with one another?
Try and go out sometimes...

[crimethink]

What if being too big meant the distances are so great that intelligent organisms would ever come in contact with one another?

"Spooky action at a distance" would tend to indicate that at least one "intelligent species" would have made their presence known across vast physical distances - if there were "aliens out there." Physical distance would be irrelevant to a sufficiently-advanced culture. Information transfer at all or any points instantaneously.

Well, uh, wait a minute...maybe someone is making their presence known! It's just that humans don't want to take it at face value.

[midnight rambler]

Information transfer at all or any points instantaneously...Well, uh, wait a minute...maybe someone is making their presence known!

There can be only ONE 'source' for that.

[crimethink]

I stated in your thread that I would like proof that planes flying non-stop across the Southern Hemisphere. Like South Africa to Australia.

Is satellite triangulation sufficient proof that the Earth is a globe?

http://www.celestiamotherlode.net/catalog/images/screenshots/various/satellites_NAVSTAR_GPS_Satellites_1__jeffyen.jpg

One could always rent a jetliner and fly the course, using only celestial navigation.

[midnight rambler]

They are not of our plane? http://i46.tinypic.com/205cj07.jpg


Ya think?

Many videos were made of this incident from all across Mexico City -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_Lzb8fdJaA

This sighting was in Guadalajara about six months earlier -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xMXs_IuK1s

[crimethink]

They are not of our plane? http://i46.tinypic.com/205cj07.jpg

The "spirit world" is, for lack of a better term, "another dimension." An existence outside of the confines (what we are confined to) of the four dimensions of space-time.

[crimethink]

There can be only ONE 'source' for that.

The Source sent His Son. And the anti-source sends his, uh, "visitors," too.

"The Bible is an integrated message system from outside our time domain."

Chuck Missler

[midnight rambler]

The "spirit world" is, for lack of a better term, "another dimension." An existence outside of the confines (what we are confined to) of the four dimensions of space-time.

I posted this previously, a Russian cosmonaut who spent time on the ISS talks about UFOs and 'ETs', beginning at 4:00 he's talking about UFOs 'refueling' with the orgone energy above thunderstorms then at 4:30 he asserts:


"I can confirm we have a presence from both polarities, both positive and both negative."

This is not the first time I've encountered this notion, it backs up what I've gleaned from other sources.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W31Ge-md1oA&feature=player_detailpage

[osoab]

Is satellite triangulation sufficient proof that the Earth is a globe?



One could always rent a jetliner and fly the course, using only celestial navigation.


Satellite
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite)

About 6,600 satellites have been launched. The latest estimates are that 3,600 remain in orbit.[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite#cite_note-AP-Rising-11-13-2) Of those, about 1,000 are operational;[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite#cite_note-ESA-3)[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite#cite_note-UCS-SatDB-4) the rest have lived out their useful lives and are part of the space debris (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_debris). Approximately 500 operational satellites are in low-Earth orbit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-Earth_orbit), 50 are in medium-Earth orbit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium-Earth_orbit) (at 20,000 km), the rest are in geostationary orbit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geostationary_orbit) (at 36,000 km).[5] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite#cite_note-FCain-5)

Atmospheric Structure (http://www.albany.edu/faculty/rgk/atm101/structur.htm)
http://www.albany.edu/faculty/rgk/atm101/tprofile.jpg

I don't think the satellites can survive at the elevation stated in ziopedia.

[crimethink]

I don't think the satellites can survive at the elevation stated in ziopedia.

Applied geometry should be able to prove or disprove that. Are the NAVSTAR (GPS) satellites where they're claimed to be, or not.

I am a skeptic of most things, but I accept that the Earth is a globe.

I am also an Antarctophile, and am sufficiently convinced that transpolar flights are both possible, and somewhat routine.

[Santa]

Arctophile:
Someone who loves and collects teddy bears.

Antarctophile:
Opposed to someone who loves and collects teddy bears.:o

[crimethink]

Arctophile:
Someone who loves and collects teddy bears.

Antarctophile:
Opposed to someone who loves and collects teddy bears.:o

I knew, I knew, I KNEW someone was going to make issue of my term. LOL!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJq7IyJvEng

[mick silver]

http://en.es-static.us/upl/2015/06/green-aliens-e1434931677929.jpg

[mick silver]

Former Astronaut Explains The UFO Cover-Up 2013 1080p HD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AAJ34_NMcI

[ximmy]

Former Astronaut Explains The UFO Cover-Up 2013 1080p HD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AAJ34_NMcI

This guy is a tool... He claims to have walked on the moon.

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Current Media Events and Hints of a Fake Alien Invasion Posted by: Dara (http://consciousreporter.com/author/dara/) in Cultural Conditioning (http://consciousreporter.com/category/cultural-conditioning/), ETs & UFOs (http://consciousreporter.com/category/contact-with-ufos-and-extraterrestrial-life/), Extraordinary (http://consciousreporter.com/category/extraordinary/) June 9, 2014 33 Comments (http://consciousreporter.com/cultural-conditioning/current-media-events-and-hints-of-a-fake-alien-invasion/#comments) 5,068 Views
With hints of an alien invasion increasingly mentioned in the mainstream media, this article examines the possibility the world is being prepared for a false flag alien attack that would serve as a catalyst for military expansion. Is the world being set up for a fake alien attack? Talk of extraterrestrials, UFOs, and even alien invasion surfaces regularly in mainstream media stories. There are scientific studies, news articles, and late-night talk shows dealing with extraterrestrials (ETs), even while the White House officially claims (https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/response/searching-et-no-evidence-yet) there are no ETs, nor has any contact ever been made. So why would there be such a steady stream of conversation about alien visitors in current media coverage? Is it due to genuine public interest in alien contact, or could this be a case of predictive programming, (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predictive_programming) with extraterrestrials sometimes being discussed or portrayed in a way that induces fear?
The Origin of the Hostile Alien False Flag In December of 2000, former NASA scientist Dr. Carol Rosin testified as part of the Disclosure Project that she had been warned of a planned fake alien attack on humanity (http://www.rense.com/general50/ec.htm), slated to occur well in the future. The warning came to her decades earlier from Werner Von Braun, the German rocket scientist who was brought over to the US after WW2 as part of Operation Paperclip (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip). During the period Rosin worked with Von Braun at Fairchild Industries, from 1974-1977, he warned her of a sinister, far-reaching plan to weaponise space, which would ultimately culminate in a staged fake alien invasion. Such an invasion would be carried out by powerful interests and ensure that all of humanity was on board with continued military spending against the false threat.
Preparing the Public What could possibly convince the world population to believe an actual extraterrestrial takeover of Earth was occurring? It’s a pretty far-out story to sell, with great time, care and preparation required to ensure that the majority of people would fall for the fake attack. Besides needing a possible display of ET/ UFO technology to pull this off, there would also be an essential psychological state of widespread fear needed to make the deception really effective. A population already primed subconsciously to view aliens as a threat, through the movies, news and other forms of media they consumed, would be much easier to exploit with such a scenario. Over many decades, there has been a proliferation of media portraying ETs as threatening invaders, despite evidence suggesting they are peaceful (http://consciousreporter.com/contact-with-ufos-and-extraterrestrial-life/curbing-close-encounters-the-smear-campaign-against-extraterrestials-for-publication/) and want to help humanity. This tactic of using constant reminders, hints, images, and insinuations to implant subconscious ideas about planned societal change is called predictive programming. If such a case of predictive programming for a false alien attack was occurring today, we might expect to see references to extraterrestrials in the mainstream media working to support this narrative.
The Current ET Dialogue A quick scan of some recent media headlines reveals no shortage of ET and UFO-themed commentary. While some topics – such as scientists discussing the likelihood of life on other planets – are more benign, others do support the worldview of aliens being a menace to humanity.

[Jewboo]

This guy is a tool... He claims to have walked on the moon.



http://movie-dude.co.uk/Lisa%20Marie%20%20Mars%20Attacks!%20%281996%29.jpg

:rolleyes:

[expat4ever]

Just how "big" is the Universe? Please explain it to us without use of hypotheses, theories, and projections. In other words, provable, verifiable, objective measurement, not supposition.
Take the speed of light in MPH. Multiply x 24 then Multiply by 365 then multiply by about 13.7 billion. Its somewhere in that neighborhood if you want the distance in miles.

[expat4ever]

Maybe it has through crop circles. Or,we can go back to that 1% theory and realize if they were trying to contact us we probably wouldn't understand them. Maybe why they are trying to send us a picture.
"Spooky action at a distance" would tend to indicate that at least one "intelligent species" would have made their presence known across vast physical distances - if there were "aliens out there." Physical distance would be irrelevant to a sufficiently-advanced culture. Information transfer at all or any points instantaneously.

Well, uh, wait a minute...maybe someone is making their presence known! It's just that humans don't want to take it at face value.

[singular_me]

only evil aliens (interventionists) would/will interact with us at this stage...

the good ones will never do as they are far more advanced and understand the Natural Laws of NON-intervention. Good aliens deem us way to primitive and will allow time to pass until humans become truly prolife in the broad sense (no more cartels) and abandon their "dualistic dogmas".

crop circles are intriguing though, most of them are very sacred math oriented.


Maybe it has through crop circles. Or,we can go back to that 1% theory and realize if they were trying to contact us we probably wouldn't understand them. Maybe why they are trying to send us a picture.

[Neuro]

Take the speed of light in MPH. Multiply x 24 then Multiply by 365 then multiply by about 13.7 billion. Its somewhere in that neighborhood if you want the distance in miles.
Interesting you take the age of the universe as postulated by the big bang theory, but just minutes ago you claimed big bang theory would be dead and buried in 10 years time... I guess universe would be 10 light years bigger by then... :) Then I suppose it would instantly expand to infinity or implode into Singularity me... ;D

[Neuro]

only evil aliens (interventionists) would/will interact with us at this stage...

the good ones will never do as they are far more advanced and understand the Natural Laws of NON-intervention. Good aliens deem us way to primitive and will allow time to pass until humans become truly prolife in the broad sense (no more cartels) and abandon their "dualistic dogmas".

crop circles are intriguing though, most of them are very sacred math oriented.
You have really lost it now haven't you?

[expat4ever]

Interesting you take the age of the universe as postulated by the big bang theory, but just minutes ago you claimed big bang theory would be dead and buried in 10 years time... I guess universe would be 10 light years bigger by then... :) Then I suppose it would instantly expand to infinity or implode into Singularity me... ;D

I do look at the facts. bang or no bang it doesn't appear to change the size of the observable universe. The furthest back we can see is about 13.5-7 billion years. So far. Once Kepler is launched that may take us a bit further.

There's one thing I am trying to understand right now. Once we grasp this we may have a better understanding of everything. Black holes at the center of each galaxy. The ones at the center are super massive black holes. Once created by dying stars are just solar mass black holes (I think thats what they are calling them now.) So there are 2 different types. The super massive ones play a larger role in the creation of things. Thats just my hypothesis.

I always keep in mind the phrase "as above, so below" In doing this I think we can learn to understand the universe a bit better. For instance. Ever notice that galaxies will collide and then combine. Similar to single cell organisms here on earth? . Also it appears that the fibinocci sequence that we witness here on in in much of nature cal also be seen in far off galaxies. What all this means I have no idea but someday we will put it all together and make the connection. Shit, we are just now making the connection that the sun plays a much larger role in climate change than anything man can do.
We also know that everything happens in cycles. I also surmise that one day we will also figure this out for the universe as well.

[Neuro]

The size of the universe is based on the flawed red-shift theory combined with a belief in big bang theory. Distant objects are not red-shifted because they are moving away from us at close to light speed they are red-shifted because they are supermassive (and that is the reason why we can observe them to begin with being at the huge distance they are at). Gravity is what creates red shift, most of the time.

And for black holes at the center of galaxies, not true either, electro-magnetism is what creates the vortex that creates the spinning around the center. New stars are created in the electromagnetic plasma at the center of the galaxies, and once they are of sufficient mass they get chugged out. Where we are at the sun is made up of the material of 2 or three previous supernovas, having created the heavier elements that makes rock planets and life possible. Black holes are mathematically impossible...

[ximmy]

only evil aliens (interventionists) would/will interact with us at this stage...

the good ones will never do as they are far more advanced and understand the Natural Laws of NON-intervention. Good aliens deem us way to primitive and will allow time to pass until humans become truly prolife in the broad sense (no more cartels) and abandon their "dualistic dogmas".


Oh Man! I totally forgot about the Prime Directive... Now I can believe in advanced alien civilizations. Thank you for clearing that up. :)

[Cebu_4_2]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJq7IyJvEng

Idiotic thug wannabees with a stuffed animal, how fucking retarded. (no offense to the real retarded as they might take offense)

[Serpo]

Are we alone in the universe.....who the f#ck cares.............the way things are going we wont even be here at all to be alone in the universe................

[crimethink]

Take the speed of light in MPH. Multiply x 24 then Multiply by 365 then multiply by about 13.7 billion. Its somewhere in that neighborhood if you want the distance in miles.

Since no one can measure the speed of light across a meaningful distance, say, a light-year, no one knows if it's uniform. The best done is (allegedly) measurement from the Moon.

[crimethink]

the good ones will never do as they are far more advanced and understand the Natural Laws of NON-intervention. Good aliens deem us way to primitive and will allow time to pass until humans become truly prolife in the broad sense (no more cartels) and abandon their "dualistic dogmas".

LOL

I thought Gene Roddenberry was dead.

The only place such a non-existent "Law of Non-Intervention" (the Prime Directive) exists is in Star Trek.

In reality, if a superior alien civilization existed, it could find it a duty to help a struggling civilization like ours. Or, come to Earth and tell us to get our affairs in order, or else, like Klaatu.

[Neuro]

The only place such a non-existent "Law of Non-Intervention" (the Prime Directive) exists is in Star Trek.

What are the odds? Star Trek also happens to be Goldissima's primary source of scientific facts...

[singular_me]

neuro, you have LOST it... my stance: is we are not alone and it is MY prerogative.. and that any advanced civilization knows about the Natural Laws Of NON-intervention/coercion... look at the deadly interventionist state of the planet.

obviously YOU have no clue about any big picture. Stay stuck in your small 3D dimension if you wish.

ALL ancient cultures speak of beings from other space, even in the bible

King James Bible/Genesis 1:26
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

but yeah, you dont believe in prediluvian civilizations either. You have a narrowed view of the whole cosmos/human history/sciences

so get lost!

ps: I proved that sacred geometry is in the bible too, check out the revelation 21, which makes it clear that the Number 12 is ultimate. So much for those accusing me of being a new ager. LOL... the number 12 = 12 cosmic dimensions = 12 music notes.... God spoke the Word... creation is about Vibrations and Electromagnetism and Geometrically created.


You have really lost it now haven't you?

[singular_me]

you have nothing to teach me, the Laws of non-intervention/coercion are ultimate, such is the Supreme Law of giving... but it is our choice to understand this... that's why the world is in a such mess, hard to deny... and that are the teachings of Jesus. Read your bible....

Your adamist supremacy is NWO induced... what is your explanation for the Numbers in Revelation 21 by the way ?



LOL

I thought Gene Roddenberry was dead.

The only place such a non-existent "Law of Non-Intervention" (the Prime Directive) exists is in Star Trek.

In reality, if a superior alien civilization existed, it could find it a duty to help a struggling civilization like ours. Or, come to Earth and tell us to get our affairs in order, or else, like Klaatu.

[singular_me]

exactly... Imagination/creation/Intuition will forever rule Sciences and Life in general. The problem with sciences today and is that it only sticks to the "known" until it is derailed by an new theory. Derailed because it takes a considerable amount of "pressure" to replace the old. Modern sciences is also based on the study of the consequences. That is why "they" went after alchemy and destroy it (another witch hunt), to make sure that the spiritual aspect would not longer come into the equation. The philosopher stone is above all a metaphor that was used to ridicule and trash alchemy. No wonder our fate is in the hands of deadly atheistic sciences ... the problem is that Matter is conscious.

there definitely is what looks like a black hole at the center of galaxies, but the mainstream explanation is wrong. We definitely need a new word for black holes. IMHO

sciences and religions alike reject the idea of a Scientific Prime Cause, because they would have to merge... so far so good... divide and rule is winning. As for the fibonacci sequence and phi ratio, it is obvious that there is a Geometry shaping everything...

Good post expat.



I do look at the facts. bang or no bang it doesn't appear to change the size of the observable universe. The furthest back we can see is about 13.5-7 billion years. So far. Once Kepler is launched that may take us a bit further.

There's one thing I am trying to understand right now. Once we grasp this we may have a better understanding of everything. Black holes at the center of each galaxy. The ones at the center are super massive black holes. Once created by dying stars are just solar mass black holes (I think thats what they are calling them now.) So there are 2 different types. The super massive ones play a larger role in the creation of things. Thats just my hypothesis.

I always keep in mind the phrase "as above, so below" In doing this I think we can learn to understand the universe a bit better. For instance. Ever notice that galaxies will collide and then combine. Similar to single cell organisms here on earth? . Also it appears that the fibinocci sequence that we witness here on in in much of nature cal also be seen in far off galaxies. What all this means I have no idea but someday we will put it all together and make the connection. Shit, we are just now making the connection that the sun plays a much larger role in climate change than anything man can do.
We also know that everything happens in cycles. I also surmise that one day we will also figure this out for the universe as well.

[Neuro]

neuro, you have LOST it... my stance: is we are not alone and it is MY prerogative.. and that any advanced civilization knows about the Natural Laws Of NON-intervention/coercion... look at the deadly interventionist state of the planet.

obviously YOU have no clue about any big picture. Stay stuck in your small 3D dimension if you wish.

ALL ancient cultures speak of beings from other space, even in the bible

King James Bible/Genesis 1:26
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

but yeah, you dont believe in prediluvian civilizations either. You have a narrowed view of the whole cosmos/human history/sciences

so get lost!

ps: I proved that sacred geometry is in the bible too, check out the revelation 21, which makes it clear that the Number 12 is ultimate. So much for those accusing me of being a new ager. LOL... the number 12 = 12 cosmic dimensions = 12 music notes.... God spoke the Word... creation is about Vibrations and Electromagnetism and Geometrically created.
So the good aliens are not going to do a thing while the evil aliens destroy us? Due to the universal law of non-intervention. And I have lost it? You really are something! ;D

[crimethink]

neuro, you have LOST it

Goldissima, please step to the back of the forum. We adults have a serious discussion which does not include your neo-Voodoo.

[crimethink]

So the good aliens are not going to do a thing while the evil aliens destroy us? Due to the universal law of non-intervention. And I have lost it? You really are something! ;D

Have you ever tried to argue with a Negress before? "The Truth" always keeps "moving" with them.

[singular_me]

yes, with me you do not stand a chance to debunk what I am saying, but I do have empathy for you.

it is a free will universe, something you obviously do not/and may never get.

non coercion is the only way because reality is fractal (everyone has his own perception of it) ... in short we are RESPONSIBLE for the reality we create and perceive.

nope,if there are any good aliens out there, they will not do anything, because earhians are just too primitive. And your words prove it.

Interventionism is working because of the psyops calling for it. Power will forever remain a deception. This universe is pro-benevolence and voluntaryism.

to go along with your stance a bit, it doesnt matter if aliens exist or not, the laws of non coercion are universal. Leave and let live in short. Tough schooling


the invisible/question marks governs the known
http://blog.gustavkaser.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/iceberg-poster.jpg


So the good aliens are not going to do a thing while the evil aliens destroy us? Due to the universal law of non-intervention. And I have lost it? You really are something! ;D

[aeondaze]

Goldissima, please step to the back of the forum. We adults have a serious discussion which does not include your neo-Voodoo.

Funniest thing I've read in ages...:p

http://blog.timesunion.com/gamers/files/2013/09/nokids.jpg

[aeondaze]

yes, with me you do not stand a chance to debunk what I am saying, but I do have empathy for you.
it is a free will universe, something you obviously do not/and may never get.
non coercion is the only way because reality is fractal (everyone has his own perception of it) ... in short we are RESPONSIBLE for the reality we create and perceive.
nope,if there are any good aliens out there, they will not do anything, because earhians are just too primitive. And your words prove it.
Interventionism is working because of the psyops calling for it. Power will forever remain a deception. This universe is pro-benevolence and voluntaryism.
to go along with your stance a bit, it doesnt matter if aliens exist or not, the laws of non coercion are universal. Leave and let live in short. Tough schooling

the invisible/question marks governs the known

WTF?

http://cf.chucklesnetwork.com/items/7/6/0/9/5/original/yo-dawg-i-heard-you-like-tautology-so-i-added-some-pleonasms-to.jpg

[Neuro]

yes, with me you do not stand a chance to debunk what I am saying
You are right, it is impossible for you to embrace a standpoint based on reason and rationality, contrary to your opinion.

[Neuro]

nope,if there are any good aliens out there, they will not do anything, because earhians are just too primitive.
You are ok with people being cruel to animals then?

[Shami-Amourae]

I do look at the facts. bang or no bang it doesn't appear to change the size of the observable universe. The furthest back we can see is about 13.5-7 billion years. So far. Once Kepler is launched that may take us a bit further.

There's one thing I am trying to understand right now. Once we grasp this we may have a better understanding of everything. Black holes at the center of each galaxy. The ones at the center are super massive black holes. Once created by dying stars are just solar mass black holes (I think thats what they are calling them now.) So there are 2 different types. The super massive ones play a larger role in the creation of things. Thats just my hypothesis.

I always keep in mind the phrase "as above, so below" In doing this I think we can learn to understand the universe a bit better. For instance. Ever notice that galaxies will collide and then combine. Similar to single cell organisms here on earth? . Also it appears that the fibinocci sequence that we witness here on in in much of nature cal also be seen in far off galaxies. What all this means I have no idea but someday we will put it all together and make the connection. Shit, we are just now making the connection that the sun plays a much larger role in climate change than anything man can do.
We also know that everything happens in cycles. I also surmise that one day we will also figure this out for the universe as well.

There's a documentary that basically says the red shift method is flawed and that the Universe could be basically indefinitely old. I'm having trouble finding it, but someone on this forum posted it a year or two ago.

I'm shocked I can't find it now since it basically destroyed my believe in the Big Bang Theory.

[Shami-Amourae]

Goldissima, please step to the back of the forum. We adults have a serious discussion which does not include your neo-Voodoo.

I would rather deal with singular_me than 99% of the rest of the public.

She's awake to a lot of stuff.

Obviously her New Age stuff doesn't go over well here. She understands the financial system, the NWO, the medical mafia, and so forth.

That's way more than anyone in my family and most of my friends.

[crimethink]

I would rather deal with singular_me than 99% of the rest of the public.

She's awake to a lot of stuff.

Obviously her New Age stuff doesn't go over well here. She understands the financial system, the NWO, the medical mafia, and so forth.

That's way more than anyone in my family and most of my friends.

She's a fanatic for falsehoods, which is typical of Negroids. She may be "awake" to many things, but her Black Africa-style nonsense gets to be quite a pain. As I said to Neuro, with such individuals, "the Truth" is always moving. Completely plastic. I'm sure of things because I have tested them to be true. She is sure of things merely because she believes them.

[Shami-Amourae]

She's a fanatic for falsehoods, which is typical of Negroids. She may be "awake" to many things, but her Black Africa-style nonsense gets to be quite a pain. As I said to Neuro, with such individuals, "the Truth" is always moving. Completely plastic. I'm sure of things because I have tested them to be true. She is sure of things merely because she believes them.

singular_me is one in a million. Literally. Give her some credit.

http://s9.postimg.org/m97p9fh0v/1436797547610.jpg

YOU FUCKING RACIST!

;)

[EE_]

Too bad we can't get crimethink to use his energy to unite people in this country against illegal immigration, fair trade, ending O-care, getting Vets better care...instead of dividing people using racial hatred.

[Shami-Amourae]

Too bad we can't get crimethink to use his energy to unite people in this country against illegal immigration, fair trade, ending O-care, getting Vets better care...instead of dividing people using racial hatred.

Racial Realism is the one thing that can save America.

Whites are so afraid of being called Racist™ they refuse to say and do the right things. They constantly run away from the race issue. Like my family is from Los Angeles and we fled to Orange County not long after the LA Riots along with many other White families. I've confronted family members about this, and they refuse to mention race, even when I point it out. They squirm and play dumb. They know I'm right, but they are too afraid to admit it.

[crimethink]

Too bad we can't get crimethink to use his energy to unite people in this country against illegal immigration, fair trade, ending O-care, getting Vets better care...instead of dividing people using racial hatred.

Too bad I can't fix stupid. Like with you.

And I say "stupid" only because I give you the benefit of the doubt that you are not a Kike-serving agent using Kike-driven memes like the above in red.

[Shami-Amourae]

Too bad I can't fix stupid. Like with you.

And I say "stupid" only because I give you the benefit of the doubt that you are not a Kike-serving agent using Kike-driven memes like the above in red.

This may be a bit random, and off the subject, and don't take it as an attack on you, but...


Why does the Christian god allow for races to NOT be equal. I really don't understand why he would make some races more prone to violence and rape over other races?

[crimethink]

This may be a bit random, and off the subject, and don't take it as an attack on you, but...


Why does the Christian god allow for races to NOT be equal. I really don't understand why he would make some races more prone to violence and rape over other races?

Judeo-"Christian" anthropology is in great error, so the issue you cite is difficult to understand. However, Biblical anthropology, where it is accepted that not all humanoids on Earth are from Adam, makes it easier to understand. The Negroid is an "ape-man," literally - half-way between human and ape. His behavior cannot be expected to be at the level of humans. It has been a great disservice to him for most to pretend it is so. Only Adam-man is in God's Image, with the high standards that you appreciate. The Negro's predecessor, known in secular anthropology as Homo erectus, was created by God as a beast (the Homo erectus survived to modern times as Australian Aboriginals, particularly, Tasmanians). The concept of "racial equality" is Satanic not only because it destroys God's Image, but because it is woefully unfair to the lower humanoids. As both Black & White nationalists understand, racial integration is deadly to both.

It was the Talmud which created the idea that Ham was "cursed" to be the father of the Negroes. In fact, Ham was not cursed in such way, and at least his immediate ancestors were White Adamites. The ancient Egyptians were likely purely "Hamitic."

Much has been said and written over the millennia about "Cain's wife." Did he mate with an unspoken-of sister? In fact, the answer is simple, but not obvious to those who do not wish to see: he married a humanoid not related to him.

Some basics about "Pre-Adamites" (Kosher to an extent, but provides a rough overview):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Adamite

More extensive treatment without the Kosher taint:

https://archive.org/details/thenegrobeastori00carrrich

[expat4ever]

Truth is fluid in some cases especially when it comes to subjects such as the op. 100 years ago we didn't know there was anything outside of our galaxy. 500 years ago you could be put to death for saying everything didn't revolve around the earth.
Todays truth is tomorrows failed theory.

[Neuro]

Truth is fluid in some cases especially when it comes to subjects such as the op. 100 years ago we didn't know there was anything outside of our galaxy. 500 years ago you could be put to death for saying everything didn't revolve around the earth.
Todays truth is tomorrows failed theory.
He is not talking about the paradigm shift that happens in science when observations fail to confirm the established theories. He is talking about Singular_me's flexible approach to truth as a debating style.

There have been plenty of observations contradicting the big bang theory and the associated red shift theory. Such as objects obviously physically connected experiencing widely diverging red shifts, suggesting they would move away at very different speeds, distant galaxies appearing to move away faster than speed of light,etc... Instead of abandoning big bang theory, when observations cast serious doubts, they invented dark matter and dark energy, iow non-observable matter and energy, to explain away the discrepancies. Truth came up and bit Big Bang Theorists in the ass, but they prefer to close their ears and scream La-la-la. Truth is not fluid, humans perception of it is.

Many times I have pointed out how Singular's theories doesn't match reality or even themselves. Like how black holes in the center of galaxies are in direct opposition to electric universe theory, as a black hole would suck in its surrounding stars, but the electromagnetic vortex would chuck out new born stars, latest now from singular was that it was still a black hole in the center of the galaxy but the name should be different... DUH!

She has no basic knowledge in physics or any other science discipline to disseminate these theories, as mentioned by crimethink it is correct only because she believes it. NOTHING I, nor anyone else, CAN SAY, can DEBUNK it to her.

"Good aliens are watching while evil aliens destroy us, because of our primitiveness and the law of non-intervention." Now, ask yourself, how can she possibly know this? Assuming it is true, of course... ;D

[EE_]

Too bad I can't fix stupid. Like with you.

And I say "stupid" only because I give you the benefit of the doubt that you are not a Kike-serving agent using Kike-driven memes like the above in red.

Why do you play into the Jewish elite's plan to keep us in a race war with blacks. Since Obama was put in, we've stepped back 20 years in racism. Why are you not vocal about the purposely open borders, which in my opinion is gutting this country more that anything else, not to mention the disease they are bringing here. Third world Mexican labor has put more blacks on welfare.
Look, I can see the Jew media is pushing race mixing and it bothers me a lot. I don't think you have to tell most people it's not good for them or society.
It bothers me that so many white females are having sex with a group that has a very high rate of STD's and are passing them back to other whites.
I'm the first one to head for the door, when a lady lets on she may have dated blacks. It also bothers me to see rich Jews using white women for sex knowing they think they are all pieces of shit whores. I would venture to say Jews have a high rate of STD's too from all the perverted sexual fetishes, their love for homosexuality and fixation on the poop chute.

[Jewboo]

Why do you play into the Jewish elite's plan to keep us in a race war with blacks.



http://www.newnation.org/NNN-Black-on-White.html (http://www.newnation.org/NNN-Black-on-White.html)

Daily reports of BLACK ON WHITE ATTACKS.


:rolleyes: yeah...let's not mention it here at GSUS. That would be a hate crime and racist.

[EE_]

http://www.newnation.org/NNN-Black-on-White.html (http://www.newnation.org/NNN-Black-on-White.html)

Daily reports of BLACK ON WHITE ATTACKS.


:rolleyes: yeah...let's not mention it here at GSUS. That would be a hate crime and racist.


I'm not saying to not address the problem, but the Jewish controlled government has easily turned the blacks into entitled animals with the welfare system. This welfare to blacks and babies for profit has taken any pride they once had. It's only natural they hate whites more then ever. You can thank the government for this hatred.

Do you think fueling the hatred will change anything? Shouldn't the hatred be directed at the source of the problem?

Same thing with hating Mexicans, it solves nothing. You can hate that they have no loyalty to this country and their disrespect for it, but the hate should be directed toward the facilitators.

[singular_me]

dark matter IS the modern name for the Aether... deal with it. The aether is the Supreme Force comprising the theory of everything.

keep misquoting me: I said that there seems to be a black hole at the center of the galaxy, but that we should rename black holes as the term is not consistent with the electric universe theory.

and stop speaking as if I discovered the electric universe theory, which is witch hunting. Anyone believing mainstream sciences today is a total fool, the same field that made people believe that earth was flat for about centuries.

Unlike you I favor NEW findings and keep my mind open. You can't even comprehend why thoughts obey the natural law of electromagnetism. If since thoughts do, then the whole Universe is following the same framework as the Universe is a Cosmic Mind creating Reality. As above so below. One does not need to have a PhD to get it... metaphysics rules over everything. It is the invisible part of the iceberg, remember the picture ???

instead explain where the cosmic energy (electricity and magnetism) is coming from, come up with a Prime Cause.... but you just wont address that because it would derail your belief system. Yet you blame my poor sense of reality... ;D

you made clear that you refute any possibility of prediluvian civilizations whose evidence is accumulating - but let alone about those from outer space.

Adamic crimethink has absolutely nothing to teach me. Really. I pointed to Revelation 21 and all he said is that the bible was corrupt. The problem is that the bible and many other belief textbooks contain esoteric numbers. Yet he calls me a new ager because of a widespread fact... so sorry, he is not the one who will debunk me.

Neuro, you outed yourself as an atheist/agnostic many times, you may believe in nature and how atoms self organize, but your consistent denial of "something bigger than our physical reality at play just escapes you big time.

Beliefs are based on knowledge... and since everybody's knowledge evolves at a different pace, there are not to minds who think alike, but I made the choice to follow the steps of the geniuses like Tesla, Krishnamurti and Walter Russell several years ago and feel good about it.

when you get a chance, read the Secret of Light and the Universal One... I can assure you that you wont regret it





He is not talking about the paradigm shift that happens in science when observations fail to confirm the established theories. He is talking about Singular_me's flexible approach to truth as a debating style.

There have been plenty of observations contradicting the big bang theory and the associated red shift theory. Such as objects obviously physically connected experiencing widely diverging red shifts, suggesting they would move away at very different speeds, distant galaxies appearing to move away faster than speed of light,etc... Instead of abandoning big bang theory, when observations cast serious doubts, they invented dark matter and dark energy, iow non-observable matter and energy, to explain away the discrepancies. Truth came up and bit Big Bang Theorists in the ass, but they prefer to close their ears and scream La-la-la. Truth is not fluid, humans perception of it is.

Many times I have pointed out how Singular's theories doesn't match reality or even themselves. Like how black holes in the center of galaxies are in direct opposition to electric universe theory, as a black hole would suck in its surrounding stars, but the electromagnetic vortex would chuck out new born stars, latest now from singular was that it was still a black hole in the center of the galaxy but the name should be different... DUH!

She has no basic knowledge in physics or any other science discipline to disseminate these theories, as mentioned by crimethink it is correct only because she believes it. NOTHING I, nor anyone else, CAN SAY, can DEBUNK it to her.

"Good aliens are watching while evil aliens destroy us, because of our primitiveness and the law of non-intervention." Now, ask yourself, how can she possibly know this? Assuming it is true, of course... ;D

[Shami-Amourae]

I'm not saying to not address the problem, but the Jewish controlled government has easily turned the blacks into entitled animals with the welfare system. This welfare to blacks and babies for profit has taken any pride they once had. It's only natural they hate whites more then ever. You can thank the government for this hatred.

Do you think fueling the hatred will change anything? Shouldn't the hatred be directed at the source of the problem?

Same thing with hating Mexicans, it solves nothing. You can hate that they have no loyalty to this country and their disrespect for it, but the hate should be directed toward the facilitators.



There's many examples of Dindus hatred for Whites outside of government entitled welfare systems where Jews had no control. Actually if the welfare wasn't there, Dindus would be far more feral and violent towards Whites. The only time Dindus had any remote decency when Whites were openly racially realist against them and pushed for segregation. They were pushed into survival mode and it forced them to their peak.


The case in Haiti:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmJLh3QCNgM

This video demonstrates the true nature of Dindus and Whites. Whites constantly try to help the Dindu, and the Dindu constantly shits over everything and tries to gouge Whitey's eyes out.

[Shami-Amourae]

dark matter IS the modern name for the Aether... deal with it. The aether is the Supreme Force comprising the theory of everything.
The idea of Dark Matter is completely made up to make the Big Bang Theory work since the Red Shift Theory is flawed and wrong as Neuro pointed out in post #81 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?84285-Are-we-alone-in-the-universe-(Is-It-Time-to-Accept-That-We-re-Alone-in-the-Universe)&p=782317&viewfull=1#post782317).
Where do you get the idea of aether from? Is there evidence for the existence of aether?

I Googled aether and found this:
http://aetherforce.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/comic_aetherforce_1.png

It looks like Dungeon and Dragons Magic Missile spell or something.

The Diablo series also adopted this:
http://nlgo.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/d3_magicmissile.jpg

Neverwinter Nights 2 under DnD rules v3.5. The only time DnD made any fucking sense.
http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/safiya-isaacs_lesser_missile_storm_8440.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oWAb5NVALw








Beliefs are based on knowledge... and since everybody's knowledge evolves at a different pace, there are not to minds who think alike, but I made the choice to follow the steps of the geniuses like Tesla, Krishnamurti and Walter Russell several years ago and feel good about it.

when you get a chance, read the Secret of Light and the Universal One... I can assure you that you wont regret it


You're basically a pantheist then, right?

That's the whole "The Universe is God" thing.

[expat4ever]

You're basically a pantheist then, right?

That's the whole "The Universe is God" thing.
I've never heard that term before but it sounds like it would describe me.

[Horn]

Where do you get the idea of aether from? Is there evidence for the existence of aether?


http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7720&stc=1


Zodiacal light is a faint, roughly triangular, diffuse white glow seen in the night sky that appears to extend up from the vicinity of the Sun along the ecliptic or zodiac. It is best seen just after sunset in spring, and just before sunrise in autumn, when the zodiac is at a steep angle to the horizon.

[Horn]

:) Ximmy had some good aether photos on her Andromeda Hubble exploration video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH2w6Oxx0kQ

[Horn]

Recent discoveries at the center of our galaxy have reinforced Electric Universe theory.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVaQCjbHVBY

[crimethink]

Truth is fluid in some cases especially when it comes to subjects such as the op. 100 years ago we didn't know there was anything outside of our galaxy. 500 years ago you could be put to death for saying everything didn't revolve around the earth.
Todays truth is tomorrows failed theory.

I'm very well aware that the available facts change over years, decades, and centuries. That is not what I refer to when I say Goldissima's "Truth" is a moving target.

[crimethink]

Why do you play into the Jewish elite's plan to keep us in a race war with blacks.


Man, I still can't fix stupid.

There is no "Jewish elite plan" to "keep us in a race war with blacks." Rather, the Jews have unleashed the Niggers upon us, to destroy us. The "civil rights movement" was not about "equality," but about removing the controls that kept a naturally-savage group in check.

You pretend that all we need do is "accept the Niggers," and "peace & love" will be forthcoming. I'm sorry, but reality doesn't change: racial separation was needed then, now, and always will be. The Jew-run "System" has done everything it can to assure we're not allowed to separate.




Why are you not vocal about the purposely open borders, which in my opinion is gutting this country more that anything else, not to mention the disease they are bringing here. Third world Mexican labor has put more blacks on welfare.


You think within the permissible spectrum of "thought," so you cannot understand that my worldview implicitly includes a total ban on non-White immigration.




Look, I can see the Jew media is pushing race mixing and it bothers me a lot. I don't think you have to tell most people it's not good for them or society.
It bothers me that so many white females are having sex with a group that has a very high rate of STD's and are passing them back to other whites.
I'm the first one to head for the door, when a lady lets on she may have dated blacks. It also bothers me to see rich Jews using white women for sex knowing they think they are all pieces of shit whores. I would venture to say Jews have a high rate of STD's too from all the perverted sexual fetishes, their love for homosexuality and fixation on the poop chute.

Then why parrot their "racial hatred" meme bullshit like you do? My beliefs are based on love for God's Image, not some low-brow "hate."

[crimethink]

Do you think fueling the hatred will change anything? Shouldn't the hatred be directed at the source of the problem?


The Problem is partly based on the fact that people like you willingly use "their" memes. You parrot their "hate" meme like a good Goy.

[Horn]

So the good aliens are not going to do a thing while the evil aliens destroy us? Due to the universal law of non-intervention. And I have lost it? You really are something! ;D

I've stated before and i'm sure you'll agree, a good alien wouldn't be seen anywhere near earth if he new what was good for him.

This holds true in our current micro-universe with late European expansionism. Sorry, but you're an evil alien along with most of your brethren.

Curse destined to be scatter cast dust upon the wind

[crimethink]

dark matter IS the modern name for the Aether... deal with it.


Nope. Zero Point Energy is the new name for Aether.




Adamic crimethink has absolutely nothing to teach me...so sorry, he is not the one who will debunk me.


Of course I will not. You already possess specially-revealed "Truth."

You are but an idiot savant. You pretend to be "intelligent" yet only give the appearance thereof. An apparent inability to self-reflect and self-critique.

[Jewboo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCQIGiXf0JA
Goldissima's Tutsi Tribe




:rolleyes: Explains everything

[Horn]

Book is a pundit in his terms that "no heads are better than two".

I appreciate singular as any male hunter type might, while subjects she gathers may be fringe and foreign at first sight. They add to make a the stew hearty. She's one of the better gatherers, imo.

[crimethink]

I appreciate singular as any male hunter type might, while subjects she gathers may be fringe and foreign at first sight. They add to make a the stew hearty. She's one of the better gatherers, imo.

You are more interested in quantity than quality.

Sorcha Faal must be your favorite "news" source, too.

[Neuro]

Recent discoveries at the center of our galaxy have reinforced Electric Universe theory.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVaQCjbHVBY
I definetely think that electrical universe theories have validity and does explain a lot of anomalies that can't be explained with gravitational effects alone, without having to resort to the invention of dark matter and energy. Stars are created in the centre of galaxies with plasma gathered from above and below the galactic plane, not gobbled up by a black hole... These star gain mass and kinetic energy in the spinning vortex, until it can't hold it in the centre any longer, then the star is chucked out in the spiral arms, the further out in the arms you go the older the stars you see. Our solar system is made up of matter from previous stars that went supernova 2-3 maybe 4 times over, which created enough heavy elements to make rocky planets with life possible. The molecular reactions and combinations within even the simplest of one-cell organisms are extremely complex, and I don't think chance only is a plausible explanation for life beginning. I see the hand of god in that. I don't however think that god would be particularly interested in details or individuals of life as it progresses, it's beneath gods pay grade, he leaves that up to evolution. Multi-cellular organisms has certain advantages in adapting to a changing environment vs uni-cellulars, multi-cellulars that co-operate have certain advantages vs those that don't...

[Horn]

I don't however think that god would be particularly interested in details or individuals of life as it progresses,

Anything less would be boring as hell, imo. I'll bet on a particular interest in freewill.

[Horn]

You are more interested in quantity than quality.

that's u crimethink, you hold the record for most posts in a year.

I'm discussing unique qualities, not socialist forum pogroms and happy politicking thankyou handshakes.

[singular_me]

yes pantheism is the spiritual believe that God "is" his/it entire creation... the Oneness in everything.

I subscribe to it.


I've never heard that term before but it sounds like it would describe me.

[crimethink]

that's u crimethink, you hold the record for most posts in a year.


BFD. I hold the record of most posts of valuable nature in a year. :D




I'm discussing unique qualities, not socialist forum pogroms and happy politicking thankyou handshakes.

You and Dogshit are just as clueless & conceited as she is. Like I said, what sort of asshole can't take 0.25 seconds to click "Thanks"?

[crimethink]

yes pantheism is the spiritual believe that God "is" his/it entire creation... the Oneness in everything.

I subscribe to it.

Just like most of Africa.

Pantheism is a primitive belief system.

[Shami-Amourae]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCQIGiXf0JA
Goldissima's Tutsi Tribe




:rolleyes: Explains everything

Related...

Start @3:05

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=191&v=BtKAC4-RgiE

[Shami-Amourae]

Just like most of Africa.

Pantheism is a primitive belief system.

Pantheism is basically the New Age. It's common with White trendy yoga mat humpers.

[crimethink]

Pantheism is basically the New Age. It's common with White trendy yoga mat humpers.

Exactly. "Return to our roots" is one thing I've heard from the New Agers.

[Horn]

You and Dogshit are just as clueless & conceited as she is

Ahhh, more quantity to revelations, I see. Who else can be included as conceited?

or the not thanked... :)

[singular_me]

makes sense too as I can see why the zero point energy can be extracted from the aether.

the whole discussion here is that aether is the Prime Cause of everything and I will **not** back down



Nope. Zero Point Energy is the new name for Aether.

Of course I will not. You already possess specially-revealed "Truth."

You are but an idiot savant. You pretend to be "intelligent" yet only give the appearance thereof. An apparent inability to self-reflect and self-critique.

self-critique?? sure because your adamic theory has legs, perhaps... go an read revelation 21 again. Going after the jews but then claim that the biblical adamic tribe is the chosen one... laughable. Self-critique you said?

the topics I am addressing on here have been debated for centuries, if not millennia and are the foundation of all sciences.

[singular_me]

you must have missed my revelation 21 posting... proving that the bible contains serious so called new age elements.

there is nothing new age...
god being his creation vs god as a separated entity from his creation....
god vs no god... such questions have been around since ever... even before the NWO, which just plays with such dualities to control/kill us all.

but you can accuse others of being new age, while you ready yourself to benefit from atheistic mass murderous transhumanism.

meanwhile you get another thank from somebody believing in some biblical adamic chosen ones ... when you claim yourself that religions are marxist in essence. Do you realize that transhumanism will eventually become the new marxism for cyborgs?

have thanks become corrupting tools? Good job NWO. Your interaction with adamic crimethink highlights why the world is about to fall off a cliff.






Pantheism is basically the New Age. It's common with White trendy yoga mat humpers.

[Horn]

There were some experiments close to zero point aether on the space station tether.

Though it melted.

[crimethink]

Going after the jews but then claim that the biblical adamic tribe is the chosen one... laughable.

God chose to create Adam in His Image, not yours. The Israelites (not "Jews") were chosen to serve God, and, the greater White Adamic family, not be "masters."

[singular_me]

LOL.... thinking that one is the godly chosen one is really anti-self critique.

keep getting thanks from neuro, book, and shami... I am fine with it, really


God chose to create Adam in His Image, not yours. The Israelites (not "Jews") were chosen to serve God, and, the greater White Adamic family, not be "masters."

[crimethink]

I pointed to Revelation 21


read revelation 21 again.


my revelation 21 posting

My, you are obsessed!

As is typical of an idiot savant, you have latched on to a topic and won't let go, even though it is meaningless to your "beliefs." You can't even begin to understand what it actually means. You act as though you've found the ultimate Rosetta Stone.

Revelation 21:

1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.

10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;

12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:

13 On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.

14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

15 And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof.

16 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.

17 And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.

18 And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass.

19 And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;

20 The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolyte; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.

21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls: every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.

22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.

23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.

25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.

26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.

27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

[Neuro]

you must have missed my revelation 21 posting...
That would be truly a miracle of biblical proportions. How many times have you posted about it? 50? 100? 200?

[singular_me]

not obsessed.... explain the numbers in it, why 12 is the ultimate number and 144 mentioned (12x12)

because those numbers are at the core of sacred geometry.... which you claim being new age ;D and thank people calling me such

I wasted a lot of time defending plato... my bad, the bible is definitely more efficient.

------------------------------------------

12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:

13 On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.

14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

15 And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof.

16 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.


17 And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.

18 And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass.

19 And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;

20 The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolyte; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.

21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls: every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.

[singular_me]

That would be truly a miracle of biblical proportions. How many times have you posted about it? 50? 100? 200?

so we are even then since you ridiculed sacred maths countless of times... while it is in the new testament. so people can say countless of times that I am a new ager but I can't point to the bible to make "a" point? LOL

and if I had more time on my hands I'd find more of this so called new age stuff in the new testament. the new age label is absolutely meaningless when it is about facts... thats the point.

[Shami-Amourae]

have thanks become corrupting tools? Good job NWO. Your interaction with adamic crimethink highlights why the world is about to fall off a cliff.

I agree with you on more things than you think.

I agree with the electric universe theory, but I just don't think it's conscious as a whole. That's the only difference.

If you believe the Universe is conscious then I can understand the basis for your beliefs.


You are correct that the New Age stuff is based on older beliefs that pre-date the Abrahamic religions. The Christians like to call it the Occult, and some others like to call it the Mystery Schools. The Christians warn people that you're just communing with Demons and that any type of delving into this area leads to Demonic Possession and Evil Scary Booga-Booganess.

Basically the New Age is supposed ancient knowledge that has supposed magical elements to it, that has been repackaged with a modern feel good vibe to it. I don't know or understand what came before, and I don't think anyone really does, but we have clues. It's possible there could have been an advanced civilization that fell (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLXBw1R0vZU&t=4m44s), or there was just a spiritual pantheistic tone to early Paganism then. I think the later makes more sense for hunter/gatherer peoples/communities. You find these kinds of religions in more primitive peoples who have been isolated from civilization. It is interesting that you see patterns in these ancient beliefs that have striking similarities (like the Flower of Life) all around the world, despite the obvious isolation each of these peoples probably encountered. I cannot come up with an explanation for that since I simply don't know.

[Jewboo]

I agree with you on more things than you think.




http://www.johnlockley.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/img_0090.jpg



:rolleyes: we are all part of the Big Is

[Shami-Amourae]

http://www.johnlockley.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/img_0090.jpg




Jesus I'm not THAT cucked.

There's not many atheists on this forum so I'm saying I have more in common with a pantheist than I do a monotheist when it comes to understanding the view on the Universe. The fundamental disagreement is if the Universe is conscious or not.

There's a lot of people on this forum who don't believe in evolution, think the world is 6,000-10,000 years old, and that the Earth is flat.

[singular_me]

okay shami...

there are 3 major trends on here and I just find sad that they have to clash every time ancient knowledge, cosmology or life in the universe are put on this board.

all this causes circular thinking... so we keep fighting. ridiculous



I agree with you on more things than you think.

I agree with the electric universe theory, but I just don't think it's conscious as a whole. That's the only difference.

If you believe the Universe is conscious then I can understand the basis for your beliefs.


You are correct that the New Age stuff is based on older beliefs that pre-date the Abrahamic religions. The Christians like to call it the Occult, and some others like to call it the Mystery Schools. The Christians warn people that you're just communing with Demons and that any type of delving into this area leads to Demonic Possession and Evil Scary Booga-Booganess.

Basically the New Age is supposed ancient knowledge that has supposed magical elements to it, that has been repackaged with a modern feel good vibe to it. I don't know or understand what came before, and I don't think anyone really does, but we have clues. It's possible there could have been an advanced civilization that fell (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLXBw1R0vZU&t=4m44s), or there was just a spiritual pantheistic tone to early Paganism then. I think the later makes more sense for hunter/gatherer peoples/communities. You find these kinds of religions in more primitive peoples who have been isolated from civilization. It is interesting that you see patterns in these ancient beliefs that have striking similarities (like the Flower of Life) all around the world, despite the obvious isolation each of these peoples probably encountered. I cannot come up with an explanation for that since I simply don't know.

[Jewboo]

The fundamental disagreement is if the Universe is conscious or not.




http://blogimg.radikal.com.tr/Blogs/2012/11/11/cildir-5776-BB58-C6FE.jpg


The beef is Goldissima talking out of her ass and characterizing everything none of can know or prove as Spirits...lol.

:rolleyes:

[Horn]

all this causes circular thinking... so we keep fighting. ridiculous

Book is fairly straight forward, he takes issue and blames your Tutsi genes for the holes in aether theory.

[Jewboo]

Book is fairly straight forward, he takes issue and blames your Tutsi genes for the holes in aether theory.


https://www.movieposter.com/posters/archive/main/150/MPW-75183

Goldissima is fairly straight forward, she takes issue and uses her primative Tutsi logic to explain the holes in aether theory.


http://www.animated-gifs.eu/50-emoticons/ps-smilies-africa.gif SUPERSTITION IS SCIENCE

[Neuro]

so we are even then since you ridiculed sacred maths countless of times... while it is in the new testament. so people can say countless of times that I am a new ager but I can't point to the bible to make "a" point? LOL

and if I had more time on my hands I'd find more of this so called new age stuff in the new testament. the new age label is absolutely meaningless when it is about facts... thats the point.
So the point is you are not a new ager then, but an old ager, who believes in old age superstition if it confirms what you believe in, some hodge podge cherry pickin religion? You accept the numerology in revelation 21, but not that christ was crucified and killed on the cross for the forgiving of our sins?

[Jewboo]

a pantheist



Theopanism has also been more broadly stated as inclusive of any theological theory by which God is held equivalent to the Universe. As one author puts it: "In theopanism the meaning given the word God is of an entity that is not separate from the universe. Theopanism includes among its major concepts pantheism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism) and panentheism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panentheism). The broader statement would also include pandeism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandeism) and panendeism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panendeism).


:rolleyes: Goldi is writing a book to clear up all our confusion...


In a review of the 2009 film Avatar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar_%282009_film%29), Ross Douthat (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Douthat), an author, described pantheism as "Hollywood’s religion of choice for a generation now".


http://www.viewmovies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/avatar-2009.jpg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism#cite_note-38)

[Neuro]

:rolleyes: Goldi is writing a book to clear up all our confusion...
All you never wanted to know about Panenema and was afraid to ask.

[Shami-Amourae]

http://www.animated-gifs.eu/50-emoticons/ps-smilies-africa.gif SUPERSTITION IS SCIENCE


This happens with all religions.

Basically people try to understand the world with science, but where our understanding cannot be answered by science, people like to fill in the blank.

Goddidit and Spiritdidit are both of the same logical fallacies.

I'm not the type of person who likes to fill in the blank so I'm an atheist. I'm satisfied admitting I don't know something. I can accept that, and sleep well at night knowing the Universe is too big of a place for me to understand. Most people cannot tolerate that notion though. They need answers to make them feel complete.

You can even have established religious text like the Bible, and yet almost all of the followers of this book will totally disagree with one another and fight more amongst themselves than those who don't believe in the common book. When people try to fill in the blank with answers for the unknown they always involve their world view and personal opinions. This is why you get so much infighting with Christians in the real world, and on this forum.

Have you noticed that none of the atheists on this forum debate and infight on atheism?

[Jewboo]

the whole discussion here is that aether is the Prime Cause of everything and I will **not** back down




GOLDISSIMA'S NECTAR OF THE GODS
http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/25845/coke.jpg


Wasting your time here Goldi. Instead, you could get rich returning to your Tutsi village and bringing Spiritual Enlightenment to your tribe.


:) maybe even employ them in your bottling and distribution network...create jobs for your Tutsis







http://assets.coca-colacompany.com/migration/www.coca-colaconversations.com/wp-content/themes/coke/images/2008/10/08/coke_original_contour_bottle_2.jpg
The Holy Grail

[crimethink]

sacred geometry.... which you claim being new age

Nope, I have never said Sacred Geometry is "New Age." Your belief system is New Age.

Sacred Geometry is revelation of how the Universe was constructed by God.

That your New Age neo-Luciferian beliefs also use Sacred Geometry means nothing. So does Judeo-Freemasonry use Sacred Geometry!

In an earlier era, Astronomy & Astrology were a unified discipline. Then the purely superstitious, nonsensical aspects were branched off into a mystical art.

[crimethink]

the new age label is absolutely meaningless when it is about facts... thats the point.

The "label" New Age is accurate and revealing. It tells people that ancient Luciferianism has been repackaged in new labels for easier acceptance & consumption.

Are New Age beliefs based on ancient ideas? Yes! Are beliefs such as yours identical to ancient Baalism, for example? No. Like Judeo-Freemasonic occultism, from which much if not most of New Age beliefs developed, they are "revived anew" for new generations. However, many of the driving principles, including the overriding driving principle of rejection of the Creator Almighty as He has revealed Himself, are the same.

Your belief system came to you not from "Atlanteans" or whatever millennia-old legends you wish to claim. Instead, they came to you via the perceptions, usually twisted, of such ancient things of Albert Pike, Aleister Crowley, and Manly P. Hall. Whether you admit it or not, or even understand it or not. Your beliefs are New Age because they are new manifestations intended for a New (World) Order.

[crimethink]

There's not many atheists on this forum so I'm saying I have more in common with a pantheist than I do a monotheist when it comes to understanding the view on the Universe. The fundamental disagreement is if the Universe is conscious or not.


The fundamental agreement between an autotheist ("atheist") such as yourself and a pantheist New Ager like Goldissima is that Yahweh Elohim is a liar.

In the same way Jews & Muslims can work together toward their common enemy, you find more accord with a primitive pantheist than you do a Christian because you have a common "enemy."




There's a lot of people on this forum who don't believe in evolution


That would include me. And I have an earned degree in Anthropology!

Belief in evolution is faith.




think the world is 6,000-10,000 years old


Not me. But not billions, either.




and that the Earth is flat.

Name them.

[crimethink]

So the point is you are not a new ager then, but an old ager, who believes in old age superstition if it confirms what you believe in, some hodge podge cherry pickin religion?

"Old Agers" are all dead. Even if she were to be honest, and just declared herself a Priestess of Baal, she'd still be a neo-Baalist!

[crimethink]

I'm not the type of person who likes to fill in the blank so I'm an atheist. I'm satisfied admitting I don't know something.


Do you understand the definition of "atheist"?




You can even have established religious text like the Bible, and yet almost all of the followers of this book will totally disagree with one another and fight more amongst themselves than those who don't believe in the common book. When people try to fill in the blank with answers for the unknown they always involve their world view and personal opinions. This is why you get so much infighting with Christians in the real world, and on this forum.

The sinful nature of man is why people fight over what Christ really taught. Look at faggots and their allies in the Church of the Apostasy - they insist that homosexuality is "not a sin." And for the entire history of man, love of money and love of self have been at the root of all wars, massacres, and so on. Most "denominations" have arisen because someone's ego or lust for money demanded it.

Christ warned that His Teachings would create strife:

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

The difference between me and most Christians is that I do not condemn "my enemies" to Hell for disagreeing. Yes, I fight for the Truth, but I don't pretend that "someone is going to Hell" because they disagree that Saturday or Sunday is the Sabbath, that a magic cookie or a literal supper is the Lord's Supper, or especially not that membership in a certain sect is "required." There isn't a person on this forum, or in my entire life, whom I would say "you are going to Hell." That is God's sole prerogative. I only teach what the Bible teaches, yes, as I can humanly interpret it.

I have followed the narrow(er) way, and I pay for it by inability to have close associates of my faith in real life, ridicule for being a "crank," and so many other things.

[Shami-Amourae]

Name them.

StreetsOfGold:
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?83953-Flat-Earthers-Won-t-Go-Away&p=778215&viewfull=1#post778215

osaob (Possibly?):
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?83953-Flat-Earthers-Won-t-Go-Away&p=778212&viewfull=1#post778212
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?84285-Are-we-alone-in-the-universe-(Is-It-Time-to-Accept-That-We-re-Alone-in-the-Universe)&p=781762&viewfull=1#post781762
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?84285-Are-we-alone-in-the-universe-(Is-It-Time-to-Accept-That-We-re-Alone-in-the-Universe)&p=781765&viewfull=1#post781765

[crimethink]

StreetsOfGold:
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?83953-Flat-Earthers-Won-t-Go-Away&p=778215&viewfull=1#post778215

osaob (Possibly?):
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?83953-Flat-Earthers-Won-t-Go-Away&p=778212&viewfull=1#post778212
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?84285-Are-we-alone-in-the-universe-(Is-It-Time-to-Accept-That-We-re-Alone-in-the-Universe)&p=781762&viewfull=1#post781762
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?84285-Are-we-alone-in-the-universe-(Is-It-Time-to-Accept-That-We-re-Alone-in-the-Universe)&p=781765&viewfull=1#post781765

Streets of Geld is a nut.

I'm not sure osoab is serious.

But your point is made.

[Horn]

but not that christ was crucified and killed on the cross for the forgiving of our sins?

I really don't understand the above sentence myself, must be a Tutsi philosophy.

[vacuum]

This happens with all religions.

Basically people try to understand the world with science, but where our understanding cannot be answered by science, people like to fill in the blank.

Goddidit and Spiritdidit are both of the same logical fallacies.

I'm not the type of person who likes to fill in the blank so I'm an atheist. I'm satisfied admitting I don't know something. I can accept that, and sleep well at night knowing the Universe is too big of a place for me to understand. Most people cannot tolerate that notion though. They need answers to make them feel complete.

You can even have established religious text like the Bible, and yet almost all of the followers of this book will totally disagree with one another and fight more amongst themselves than those who don't believe in the common book. When people try to fill in the blank with answers for the unknown they always involve their world view and personal opinions. This is why you get so much infighting with Christians in the real world, and on this forum.

Have you noticed that none of the atheists on this forum debate and infight on atheism?

I share the same viewpoint as you in that I am satisfied with admitting when I don't know something, and furthermore, that I will never know some things. I actually consider that to be a virtue. So I think that we're largely synced up in our actual beliefs. (I've noticed that you're more of a video person though and I'm more of a text person, so I understand if you don't thoroughly read through my discussion here.)

However, I wouldn't describe that as an atheist viewpoint. Atheism is described as a "lack of belief" unless there is proof to support such a belief. There are a couple problems with this. First of all, there really isn't such thing as a lack of belief. Every decision is you make in life is driven by what you believe. The only way you could truly have no belief is if you never had to make a decision or take an action in your life. Once you do those things, you've revealed your underlying belief system which you could also call your "model of the world".

So if atheists do believe in something, what is it? Materialism. And when I say materialism, I mean that the only things which exist are what we can see, hear, and understand. It assumes that there is nothing beyond human perception, consciousness, and understanding because there is no proof for those things. (things beyond our understanding cannot ever be proven, by definition)

Now we get to the question of proof. In reality, nothing can be proven, even if we can see, hear, or feel it. It's all a simulation in our minds. It's our experience, our perception, rather than complete reality which we see.

So none of it makes sense or really means anything. The "lack of belief" part, the "proof" part, or the materialism part. The only useful thing that atheism achieves is not what ideas it supports, which it doesn't really do, but rather what ideas it rejects: man's conception of God. So atheism is more of a negative belief in something other people believe. Which is fine. Man's conception of god has a lot of problems. That's why atheists don't infight as you observe, because they make no assertions about reality, they only criticize other people's assertions.

The real situation, which you have to deal with and which I have to deal with, is that we don't know. We don't know the purpose of existence, what really happened in the past or what will happen in the future, what is true or false today, or if any of it has any meaning whatsoever. The first key thing, as you pointed out, is to not answer any of these questions. The only questions you need to answer are those that affect the decisions you need to make in life. To make those decisions, it's best to gather as much information as possible, without bias, and piece together different scenarios and themes that fit together. Some may even be contradictory, but simply gather the information and don't prematurely judge until you actually need to take action. It's an abductive method of thinking rather than a deductive method that the organized belief systems use.

Alright, take the above advice and live it for a few years before continuing to read on.

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Now the concept of Faith. Faith is a virtue, and it is simply the possibility that there exists some end game, something worth all the effort, some greater truth out there. It causes contemplation and begins to make some potential path forward visible. Without faith, a logical and honest person would commit suicide. The next key virtue is Hope, which simply states that it might be possible to attain those things which you believe exist. That sets you on a journey to some unknown destination. There is no self delusion here. You understand that you know nothing and have nothing. But as you let go of all the previous preconceived belief systems and ideas, you start to see the quirks of the nature of reality. For example, life is meaningless is a true statement. However, perhaps it is also true that it has whatever meaning you give it? Then it truly could be both meaningless and have meaning at the same time. Or the concept of faith. It is indeed true that there is no reason to believe in a god or in fact to believe in anything at all, because all perception is false. But once you get to the point of believing nothing, the only thing left that allows you to continue to exist is the belief that there is indeed something somewhere (faith). These are situations where something is both true and not true at the same time. The more you focus on these questions, the more you see these "obvious" things become more subtle and deeper.

[Jewboo]

Alright, take the above advice and live it for a few years before continuing to read on...

Now the concept of Faith. Faith is a virtue, and it is simply the possibility that there exists some end game, something worth all the effort, some greater truth out there. It causes contemplation and begins to make some potential path forward visible. Without faith, a logical and honest person would commit suicide. The next key virtue is Hope, which simply states that it might be possible to attain those things which you believe exist. That sets you on a journey to some unknown destination. There is no self delusion here. You understand that you know nothing and have nothing. But as you let go of all the previous preconceived belief systems and ideas, you start to see the quirks of the nature of reality. For example, life is meaningless is a true statement. However, perhaps it is also true that it has whatever meaning you give it? Then it truly could be both meaningless and have meaning at the same time. Or the concept of faith. It is indeed true that there is no reason to believe in a god or in fact to believe in anything at all, because all perception is false. But once you get to the point of believing nothing, the only thing left that allows you to continue to exist is the belief that there is indeed something somewhere (faith). These are situations where something is both true and not true at the same time. The more you focus on these questions, the more you see these "obvious" things become more subtle and deeper.

https://d32v6r6fgi4k49.cloudfront.net/media/images/large/migrant-mother.jpeg


Vacuum: Forgive me poaching your question for Shami...the day shift went to bed and I'm about to join them...but you are going really "deep" here and I'll add an additional perspective: Parenthood. If you brought kids into this world your need for "hope" is essential. Suicide is out of the question. Your meaning of life is waiting to be fed and clothed...lol.


:) good night

[BrewTech]

Some of you don't understand how small "small" really is, also.
Unfortunately, some of us do... :(

[Shami-Amourae]

However, I wouldn't describe that as an atheist viewpoint. Atheism is described as a "lack of belief" unless there is proof to support such a belief. There are a couple problems with this. First of all, there really isn't such thing as a lack of belief. Every decision is you make in life is driven by what you believe. The only way you could truly have no belief is if you never had to make a decision or take an action in your life. Once you do those things, you've revealed your underlying belief system which you could also call your "model of the world".
I know what you're arguing. Let me explain it this way:
http://s15.postimg.org/wtdg9wikb/1433636515263.gif

Theism is just a stupid idea to me, and yes that's my belief. Agnosticism is just a copout to me.


You're right I'm more of a visual than a verbal person. Don't worry I read your entire post. I prefer images and video over text. I also think video games are the best way to get messages across since you can give an exact simulation/experience to the person you're communicating to.




So if atheists do believe in something, what is it? Materialism. And when I say materialism, I mean that the only things which exist are what we can see, hear, and understand. It assumes that there is nothing beyond human perception, consciousness, and understanding because there is no proof for those things. (things beyond our understanding cannot ever be proven, by definition)

I believe civilization is important and worth preserving. I believe it is the destiny of humanity to reach, conquer, and colonize the stars. I believe in the Golden Rule, but I also believe in an eye for an eye. I also believe Pathological Altruism is evil. I believe Pathological Altruism is the destruction of civilization because it is easily hacked by opportunists. When this happens an eye for an eye is essential to bring balance and preserve civilization.

Only Whites and Asians are capable of building civilization too.



Without faith, a logical and honest person would commit suicide.

I consider myself a logical and honest person. I would not commit suicide unless I was extremely old and/or clearly dying so I could put myself out of my misery. Suicide is something mostly only White males do since they realize the world is set against them and they feel hopeless. No other demographic has suicide rates that come as close.

http://www.afsp.org/understanding-suicide/facts-and-figures

White males accounted for 70% of all suicides in 2013.