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Shami-Amourae
23rd July 2015, 12:41 PM
It’s time to surrender and let the yellow metal fall to its bear market low



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By

HowardGoldsteinsteinsteinstein

Columnist





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To Anyone Who’s Still Bullish on Gold:


For some years, I have watched with puzzlement as you held on to gold out of deep affection and conviction.


Gold clearly peaked above $1,900 an ounce back in 2011. Since then, its trend has been down, with a few rallies you must have found reassuring.


But on Monday, gold tumbled to around $1,100 an ounce, its lowest price in five years.


When a stock, market, commodity or currency continues to hit lower lows and lower highs, what do you call it? A bear market.


When that happens year after year, for four years, what do you call that? A secular, or long-term, bear market. The last secular bear market for gold lasted 20 years.


A secular bear is what gold is in now.


The charts tell the story. So do the money flows: Professional and retail investors are fleeing the SPDR Gold Trust GLD, -0.27% (http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/fund/gld) like rats from a sinking ship. Its gold holdings have dropped to just above 22 million ounces, the lowest since 2008.

Many of you gold bulls are driven by your political beliefs, not a realistic assessment of what’s going on in today’s markets and economy.




And yet your intense belief in gold may be preventing this market from hitting bottom and eventually recovering ahead of the next long-term bull. But none of that will happen until you surrender.


As MarketWatch columnist David Weidner pointed out, gold has certain definable up and down periods (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-gold-is-falling-and-wont-get-up-again-2015-07-20).


The last secular bull market in gold lasted from August 1971, when President Nixon cut the last ties between gold and the dollar, and January 1980, when it peaked at $850 an ounce.


Gold skyrocketed more than 20-fold in the raucous 1970s bull before plunging down to Earth. It didn’t see the nominal $850 level again for more than a quarter century, and has still not scaled that peak in inflation-adjusted terms.


But starting in 2001, with gold above $250 an ounce, the yellow metal rallied more than 500% to its 2011 all-time price high.


In the 1970s, a loose, inept Federal Reserve (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/lets-hope-yellen-can-avoid-the-great-inflation-of-the-2010s-2014-08-28), led by Nixon flunky Arthur Burns, allowed the inflation that began during the Vietnam War to get out of control, exacerbated by two oil-price shocks (the oil embargo of 1973 and the 1979 Iranian revolution). But Fed Chairman Paul Volcker killed the gold bull market by raising short-term rates sharply.


In the 2000s, Alan Greenspan’s loose monetary policy inflated a credit and housing bubble just as China’s rise set off a worldwide commodity boom. The subsequent crash and financial crisis triggered a debt explosion as governments tried to save their financial systems and spend their way out of depression.


Global central banks, led by the Fed under Ben Bernanke, dropped short-term interest rates to near zero and embarked on ambitious bond-buying plans, called “quantitative easing,” to jump-start a recovery.


But rather than trying to “monetize” all that debt and thus create hyperinflation, as conspiracy theorists argued, the Fed and other central banks are instead trying to fight deflation and debt crises like those in Greece and other European countries.


That’s what you and prominent gold bulls like Peter Schiff have gotten completely wrong. And yet in a recent MarketWatch interview, Schiff doubled down (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/peter-schiff-more-bullish-than-ever-sees-gold-headed-to-5000-an-oz-2015-05-15) and said gold could go to $5,000 an ounce.


His outrageous, attention-getting statements, almost completely detached from reality, would make him an ideal vice-presidential running mate for Donald Trump.


And that’s the problem: Many of you gold bulls are driven by your political beliefs (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/doom-and-gloom-investors-led-astray-by-politics-2014-05-29), not a realistic assessment of what’s going on in today’s markets and economy.


With a stronger dollar, bear markets in commodities and emerging economies, and rates slated to rise in the United States, what’s the point of owning gold? (Disclosure: I have a very small position in GLD.) But your political views have caused many of you to miss one of the greatest stock bull markets in history.


As gold breaks down near support levels, technician Michael Kahn of barrons.com asks whether capitulation is here (http://online.barrons.com/articles/gold-is-falling-so-hard-it-looks-like-capitulation-1437423053). Not quite. After the 1970s bull market, gold lost two-thirds of its value. At this point it has fallen “only” 40% from its 2011 peak. John LaForge, commodities strategist for Ned Davis Research, thinks gold has to fall to $660 (http://www.kitco.com/ind/Hamlin/2014-10-06-Why-NED-Davis-is-Dead-Wrong-About-660-Gold.html) before it reaches its bear market bottom.


Shawn Driscoll of T. Rowe Price, who said oil would fall to $50 a barrel, thinks gold will tumble to $800 an ounce (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/gold-oil-will-be-in-the-dumps-for-another-decade-2014-11-12).


I’m looking for a bear market bottom somewhere between those two prices. But we can’t get there without you. So please do us all a favor: Give in, raise the white flag, turn in your swords and abandon this lost cause. You would help your country, the markets, and ultimately the price of gold itself.


Trust me, surrender will never feel so sweet.


Sincerely, Howard R. Gold (no relation to the precious metal)

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Howard R. Gold is a MarketWatch columnist and founder and editor of GoldenEgg Investing (http://goldenegginvesting.com/), which offers free market commentary and simple, low-cost, low-risk retirement investing plans. Follow him on Twitter @howardrgold

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/an-open-letter-to-investors-who-are-bullish-on-gold-2015-07-23

Shami-Amourae
23rd July 2015, 12:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plwLDF2xNEA

Shami-Amourae
23rd July 2015, 01:01 PM
tl;dr

*Raspy Jew voice*
You goys are stupid conspiracy theorists for holding Gold. Give it up and do us all a favor. Heagh he heh heh... Give up. The price is going down since of you. Give all your Gold to me up. Give in... SURRENDER. It's the right thing to do, goy.

*Rubs hands together*

madfranks
23rd July 2015, 01:39 PM
tl;dr

*Raspy Jew voice*
You goys are stupid conspiracy theorists for holding Gold. Give it up and do us all a favor. Heagh he heh heh... Give up. The price is going down since of you. Give all your Gold to me up. Give in... SURRENDER. It's the right thing to do, goy.

*Rubs hands together*

Hmm... maybe we are nearing the bottom here. Peter Schiff is calling for $5000 gold, and Gerald Celente is calling for $2000 gold.

StreetsOfGold
23rd July 2015, 01:45 PM
Howard Gold Graduate of Columbia University - Columbia Business School (http://www.linkedin.com/edu/school?id=18941&trk=ppro_sprof)
A PRO Roman Catholic, Jesuit infiltrated university

ximmy
23rd July 2015, 01:48 PM
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crimethink
23rd July 2015, 04:39 PM
Howard Gold Graduate of Columbia University - Columbia Business School (http://www.linkedin.com/edu/school?id=18941&trk=ppro_sprof)
A PRO Roman Catholic, Jesuit infiltrated university

TalmudBot Streets of Geld right on schedule...

Hitch
23rd July 2015, 08:52 PM
When the assholes in the media say not to buy, that is the exact time to buy gold.

Everything is rigged.

EE_
23rd July 2015, 08:55 PM
When the assholes in the media say not to buy, that is the exact time to buy gold.

Everything is rigged.

Platinum is screaming "buy me!" There is going to be a big platinum demand for bomb production when they start raining them on Iran.

Shami-Amourae
23rd July 2015, 08:55 PM
When the assholes in the media say not to buy, that is the exact time to buy gold.

Everything is rigged.


Yeah I was trying to point that out. The article is clearly trying to guilt people out of Precious Metals. It's so blatant that it's almost an obvious signal to buy.

Shami-Amourae
23rd July 2015, 11:10 PM
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-gold-is-falling-and-wont-get-up-again-2015-07-20?dist=lcountdown (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-gold-is-falling-and-wont-get-up-again-2015-07-20?dist=lcountdown)

The precious metal will rally again, but not with the same glitter


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A gold coin, left, and a bitcoin

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SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) — Do you remember gold? It was kind of an analog bitcoin.


It was a universal legal tender. Governments held it in forts. Your bank kept it in a safe. It was the most precious of precious metals. And investors bought gold GCQ5, -1.06% (http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/future/gcq5) for safety’s sake when markets and economies crashed and the value of paper currency was in doubt.


But that was a long time ago. Gold is down 40% from its financial-crisis peak in 2011. As Jeff Reeves notes in his column (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/golds-slump-is-here-to-stay-2015-07-20) Monday: “The long-term trend remains decidedly against gold.”


Reeves honorably calls himself a gold “agnostic” because he doesn’t want to get into conspiracy theories and some of the nonsense that surrounds the gold market. He wants to talk about the investment.

I want to talk about the investors.


Because I don’t think it’s possible to separate the two. Gold has always been the favorite commodity of a fringe crowd that doesn’t trust governments, central banks, politicians and the financial system. This part of the gold market drives a lot of the buying and selling; it whips up a lot of frenzy. I don’t have any hard evidence, but I’d argue that gold’s value is inflated by people who aren’t investing in a commodity but in a belief system that may or may not include black helicopters (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=black+helicopter+theory) and a U.S. invasion of Texas (http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/05/07/u-s-defense-secretary-no-texas-invasion/).



What is different is how deep and long this gold bottom could go.






The sad part is that gold always has been a sucker’s bet. It’s supposed to protect against inflation. It doesn’t. It’s supposed to retain its value. It doesn’t. For those reasons, gold is supposed to be the ultimate currency. It’s not.
As fund manager and blogger Barry Ritholtz said (http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2013/04/what-are-golds-fundamentals/) of gold’s fundamentals: “It has none.”


Wall Street, of course, welcomes the business. Gold, after all, is hardly a useful commodity. If it had significant real purpose, it wouldn’t be sitting in vaults around the world. But, hey, we’ll trade it. We’ll trade anything (http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748704889404576277312441609654).
By and large, these special breed of gold bugs have ignored history. In the past century, gold has bubbled and popped at least a half dozen times, with crashes coming in 1915-20, 1941, 1947, 1951-66, 1974-76, 1981, 1983-85, 1987-2000 and 2008. If many of those dates seem to have a common thread, it’s because they do. They were, for the most part, periods of economic expansion. Who wants gold, when the stock market is booming or housing prices are soaring?


Fundamentally, today’s gold market is no different. Stocks are holding near all-time highs. Interest rates could rise before the end of the year. Gold, on the other hand, is slip-sliding away.
What is different is how deep and long this gold bottom could go. As we move into an ever-techier world, gold has more competition: namely cryptocurrencies such as bitcoin that cater to the new generation of skeptics. The bitcoin market touts itself as an alternative to the currency markets and a hedge against inflation (http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell/2013/09/17/bitcoin-as-a-hedge-against-the-fed-cameron-and-tyler-winklevoss/). Bitcoin’s value, like gold, is based on the confidence of the buyer, nothing more. Cryptocurrencies may also even prove to be useful (at which point they most likely will be unattractive to bitbugs).


This isn’t to say gold trading will disappear. It’s just that there’s more competition. In the near term, many asset classes including real estate, bonds and stocks are producing, or poised to produce, better returns. And in the end, even gold bugs want profit over protection.


When the cycle turns, gold will have its day again. But as alternatives emerge, that day will be less bright, less shiny.





Response from MoneyBags73

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Half Sense
24th July 2015, 10:50 AM
Now why would they even care that a tiny fringe of wacky investors made a bad decision and bought gold?

crimethink
24th July 2015, 11:08 AM
Now why would they even care that a tiny fringe of wacky investors made a bad decision and bought gold?

Because they "love" us.