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ximmy
31st July 2015, 02:07 PM
The so-called “trustees” of the social security system issued their annual report last week and the stenographers of the financial press dutifully reported that the day of reckoning when the trust funds run dry has been put off another year—-until 2034.
So take a breath and kick the can. That’s five Presidential elections away!
Except that is not what the report really says. On a cash basis, the OASDI (retirement and disability) funds spent $859 billion during 2014 but took in only $786 billion in taxes, thereby generating $73 billion in red ink. And by the trustees’ own reckoning, the OASDI funds will spew a cumulative cash deficit of $1.6 trillion during the 12-years covering 2015-2026.
So measured by the only thing that matters—-hard cash income and outgo—-the social security system has already gone bust. What’s more, even under the White House’s rosy scenario budget forecasts, general fund outlays will exceed general revenues ex-payroll taxes by $8 trillion over the next twelve years.
Needless to say, this means there will be no general fund surplus to pay the OASDI shortfall. Uncle Sam will finance the entire $1.6 trillion cash deficit by adding to the public debt. That is, Washington plans to make social security ends meet by burying unborn taxpayers even deeper in national debt in order to fund unaffordable entitlements for the current generation of retirees.
The question thus recurs. How did the untrustworthies led by Treasury Secretary Jacob Lew, who signed the 2015 report, manage to turn today’s river of red ink into another 20 years of respite for our cowardly beltway politicians?
They did it, in a word, by redeeming phony assets; booking phony interest income on those non-existent assets; and projecting implausible GDP growth and phantom payroll tax revenues.
And that’s only the half of it!
The fact is, the whole rigmarole of trust fund accounting enables these phony assumptions to compound one another, thereby obfuscating the fast approaching bankruptcy of the system. And, as will be demonstrated below, that’s what’s really happening—–even if you give credit to the $2.79 trillion of so-called “assets” which were in the OASDI funds at the end of 2014.
Stated differently, the OASDI trust funds could be empty as soon as 2026, thereby triggering a devastating 33% across the board cut in benefits to affluent duffers living on Florida golf courses and destitute widows alike. Needless to say, the army of beneficiaries projected for the middle of the next decade—what will amount to the 8th largest nation on the planet—- would not take that lying down.
There would be blood in the streets in Washington and eventually staggering tax increases to fund the shortfall. Such desperate measures, of course, would sink once and for all whatever faint impulse of economic growth and job creation that remained alive in the US economy at the time.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-30/2015-untrustworthies-report-why-social-security-could-be-bankrupt-12-years

7th trump
31st July 2015, 04:08 PM
Its been bankrupted for decades....there is no money in the trust fund....its all IOU's.
Every dime collected goes straight into the general fund and spent within hours.

palani
31st July 2015, 05:32 PM
Every dime collected goes straight into the general fund

There are no dimes collected. They collect FRNs which represent the full faith and credit of an insurgent Democratic government.

Jerrylynnb
31st July 2015, 06:26 PM
There gonna' start means testing you for your SS check (a nightmare I've been having) - they will reduce it by large chunks if you are not destitute, and, if you don't reveal every detail about your possessions, wealth, and income, they will prosecute you for perjury.

Well, all you fellow senior citizens, it was good while it lasted, but, did we really believe it would go on forever?


(aside) by the way, Ximmy, where did you get that new avatar? I wanna' see her whole face (take off that scarf!) - she looks like she might be a real babe.

ximmy
31st July 2015, 06:28 PM
There gonna' start means testing you for your SS check (a nightmare I've been having) - they will reduce it by large chunks if you are not destitute, and, if you don't reveal every detail about your possessions, wealth, and income, they will prosecute you for perjury.

Well, all you fellow senior citizens, it was good while it lasted, but, did we really believe it would go on forever?

Once again the lazy bastards who spent their lives living off government welfare, will be the ones who benefit from SS.

Those of us who diligently prepared and worked for our SS will be left out.

Jewboo
31st July 2015, 06:52 PM
(aside) by the way, Ximmy, where did you get that new avatar? I wanna' see her whole face (take off that scarf!) - she looks like she might be a real babe.



Ximmy didn't choose the thug life. The thug life chose Ximmy.

:rolleyes:

Jewboo
31st July 2015, 06:56 PM
There gonna' start means testing you for your SS check (a nightmare I've been having) - they will reduce it by large chunks if you are not destitute, and, if you don't reveal every detail about your possessions, wealth, and income, they will prosecute you for perjury.



Around the time I bought my AGEs at $560 was when I started dressing down and appearing to be poor.


http://forums.pcpitstop.com/public/style_emoticons/default/old7rz.gif good luck finding my assets

ximmy
31st July 2015, 07:00 PM
That's ximmy... hidden, so they can't find me and kill me dead.

Hitch
31st July 2015, 07:21 PM
Around the time I bought my AGEs at $560 was when I started dressing down and appearing to be poor.


http://forums.pcpitstop.com/public/style_emoticons/default/old7rz.gif good luck finding my assets


I agree with Book. This is exactly why we buy gold and silver. To keep a few things off the record.

palani
31st July 2015, 07:36 PM
This is exactly why we buy gold and silver.

Plane jumping. If you really wanted to be another Toby on the plantation you would simply stay within the system. Really, it is the simplest, easiest, least stressful approach.

Man does not survive well in a no-stress environment. If you are lacking stress you will find a way to manufacture your own. The conflict between the welfare state and the state where you are responsible for everything is the source of the stress you are looking for.

Hitch
31st July 2015, 07:40 PM
Man does not survive well in a no-stress environment. If you are lacking stress you will find a way to manufacture your own.

I somewhat agree. I am living a no-stress environment currently, and I'm quite happy. I don't want or need stress.

However, I lack challenge. I miss the days where challenge was forced upon me, and I had to act to survive.

But.....again, this is why we buy gold and silver. We know that challenge is on the horizon. This, is really why we prepare. Don't you worry about me, my guns are ready and until then, the surf is up.

Jewboo
31st July 2015, 07:45 PM
I agree with Book. This is exactly why we buy gold and silver. To keep a few things off the record.




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Unrealistic to still think we can "own" our nice house and "invest" in stocks and bonds or real estate. The commies will eventually take it all and give it to the black and brown peeps who vote Democrat.

It's a given that they will means test Social Security and everything else. Greece today is proposing a 75% income tax.

:o hide what you can now

Jewboo
31st July 2015, 07:51 PM
Man does not survive well in a no-stress environment. If you are lacking stress you will find a way to manufacture your own. The conflict between the welfare state and the state where you are responsible for everything is the source of the stress you are looking for.



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Nope. Going "Galt" makes more sense. Screw the Gibsmedats.

:)

palani
31st July 2015, 07:55 PM
this is why we buy gold and silver
No need to corner the market on minerals. These are choses in action that don't worry about who possess them. It is true that they don't deteriorate as quickly as other commodities. I limit my gold possessions to a single $5 1878 gold piece and my silver to $21 necessary to establish a bond that insures a jury trial. Any quantities beyond this are surplus and absolutely unnecessary.

Hitch
31st July 2015, 08:13 PM
I limit my gold possessions to a single $5 1878 gold piece and my silver to $21 necessary to establish a bond that insures a jury trial. Any quantities beyond this are surplus and absolutely unnecessary.

Yeah that's about what I've got too.

Anything more than that would be unnecessary. The last thing we need is to get labeled a hoarder.