Vaccinations

[palani]

These are defined as the method which the medical profession has come up with to protect the vaccinated from the unvaccinated.

Let's look at it logically.

Once you are vaccinated you no longer need to concern yourself with being infected by those who have the disease (aka 'the unvaccinated').

Since you no longer are stressed out from this danger you have no cause to complain if others choose to NOT vaccinate themselves.

I don't see what all the fuss is about. Vaccinations either perform or they don't. If they don't work then you were foolish for taking them. If they do work then you have no need to force your opinion on the population that chooses to think they don't work.

Problem solved. No need for a lot of rhetoric. This is the crux of the argument both for and against vaccinations.

I wish all of the worlds problems were this easily solved.

[...Bows and kisses thrown to all in the audience who are dazzled by this brilliant dissertation ...]

[Cebu_4_2]

The claim against your logical conclusion is that some kids who might be *immunocompromised and can't have the vaccine is at risk from your thoughtless choice on not vaccinating your healthy child.

*insert any reason here.

[gunDriller]

American Jew-Run Biotech is practically a religion in the US.


time to outsource our health care.

[Shami-Amourae]

American Jew-Run Biotech is practically a religion in the US.


time to outsource our health care.

I talk to avid supporters of the establishment. They flap their arms about how flawless the peer review system is. They can't fathom this system is designed top-down to compartmentalize it's subjects, and control information flow from the top-down. If what you're saying doesn't come out of the peer review system it must be untrue. If you try to debate them they will never spend more than 5 minutes research any subject. Just a quick Google search and the first establishment website is used as evidence. I've pointed this out as not being actual research, but then they just get angry and call you stupid, crazy, and a conspiracy theorist. You can quickly spot someone who is intellectually lazy at this point.

Science isn't a democracy.

[mick silver]

just went and got all 25 of my Vaccinations and I feel so safe and alive ........... happy days are here again

[palani]

The claim against your logical conclusion is that some kids who might be *immunocompromised and can't have the vaccine is at risk from your thoughtless choice on not vaccinating your healthy child.

Nature itself has discovered a way to rid itself of the immunocompromised. I believe the phrase coined is 'survival of the fittest'.

[palani]

they just get angry and call you stupid, crazy, and a conspiracy theorist. You can quickly spot someone who is intellectually lazy at this point.

Science isn't a democracy.

Matter of belief or doubt. If you believe vaccinations work then have at it. Your belief is what is going to protect you. However, demanding others receive vaccinations indicates you have doubts. As in all belief systems the slightest doubt is going to prove that you are wrong. If you were right you would believe right to the very end.

[Dogman]

Who here can remember the good old days of iron lungs, and the one's a tad more lucky that could race about in their wheelchairs, and then there were the ones that could get about by wearing braces and using canes ?

Good old days !

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[palani]

Good old days

Polio?

And as a remedy virtually the entire population has been infected with monkey pus virus.

I ran across a bit of law from the early 1800's having to do with postal delivery of vaccination materials. Who would have thought they were experimenting with this from that early?

[palani]

I had thought I remembered Lyme disease being from Lyme Island .. it turns out my memory was incorrect ... apparently it comes from Plum Island


Lab 257, a book by Michael C. Carroll, has alleged a connection between Plum Island Animal Disease Center and the outbreaks of three infectious diseases: West Nile virus in 1999, Lyme disease in 1975, and Dutch duck plague in 1967

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plum_Island_Animal_Disease_Center

Some might argue that the link between vaccinations and federal experiments on animals might be a stretch. I am not one of these.


The reason some believe Lyme disease escaped Plum Island is because the island is located just a few miles off the coast of Lyme, Connecticut, which is where the first outbreak of Lyme was observed in 1975. While scientists say that all animals on the island are killed to prevent the possible spread of diseases, conspiracy theorists argue that birds regularly fly between the island and the mainland and thus are able to spread any diseases they may pick up.
https://sites.newpaltz.edu/ticktalk/social-attitudes/story-by-smaranda-dumitru/

[Dogman]

Polio?

And as a remedy virtually the entire population has been infected with monkey pus virus.

I ran across a bit of law from the early 1800's having to do with postal delivery of vaccination materials. Who would have thought they were experimenting with this from that early?

Yea, maybe it would have been better and just not bothered!

Polio was a fairly good way to thin out the herd and weed out the weak ones that were susceptible, from the ones that stronger!

For dam sure there would be way less people living on the world today!


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[singular_me]

vaccines will make many sick and/or kill them in the long run... vaccines work on blood type levels, so they dont affect everybody the same way.

the long term goal is to genetically mutate humans to adapt them to the ant colonies they plan for us.

[ximmy]

vaccines will make many sick and/or kill them in the long run... vaccines work on blood type levels, so they dont affect everybody the same way.

the long term goal is to genetically mutate humans to adapt them to the ant colonies they plan for us.

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[monty]

Who here can remember the good old days of iron lungs, and the one's a tad more lucky that could race about in their wheelchairs, and then there were the ones that could get about by wearing braces and using canes ? Good old days ! Sent from my Nexus 7


I remember all too well. However if I was raising children today they would not receive this mumps, measles, etc. shot. Smallpox, polio, tuberculosis, yes.

[Cebu_4_2]

Poliomyelitis /poʊlioʊmaɪəlaɪtɪs/ (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_English), often called polio or infantile paralysis, is an infectious disease (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infectious_disease) caused by the poliovirus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliovirus). Approximately 90% to 95% of infections cause no symptoms (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asymptomatic).[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis#cite_note-PinkBook2009-1) Another 5 to 10% of people have minor symptoms such as: fever, headache (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headache), vomiting, diarrhea, neck stiffness and pains in the arms and legs.[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis#cite_note-PinkBook2009-1)[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis#cite_note-WHO2014-2) These people are usually back to normal within one or two weeks. In about 0.5% of cases there is muscle weakness (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_weakness) resulting in an inability to move (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaccid_paralysis).[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis#cite_note-PinkBook2009-1) This can occur over a few hours to few days.[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis#cite_note-PinkBook2009-1)[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis#cite_note-WHO2014-2) The weakness most often involves the legs but may less commonly involve the muscles of the head, neck and diaphragm (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoracic_diaphragm). Many but not all people fully recover. In those with muscle weakness about 2% to 5% of children and 15% to 30% of adults die.[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis#cite_note-PinkBook2009-1) Years after recovery post-polio syndrome (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-polio_syndrome) may occur, with a slow development of muscle weakness similar to what the person had during the initial infection.[3]
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis#cite_note-3)
Poliovirus is usually spread from person to person through infected feces entering the mouth (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal-oral_route).[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis#cite_note-PinkBook2009-1) It may also be spread by food or water containing human feces and less commonly from infected saliva (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saliva).[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis#cite_note-PinkBook2009-1)[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis#cite_note-WHO2014-2) Those who are infected may spread the disease even if no symptoms are present for up to six weeks. The disease may be diagnosed by finding the virus in the feces (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feces) or detecting antibodies (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibodies) against it in the blood.[1]
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis#cite_note-PinkBook2009-1)
The disease is preventable with the polio vaccine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio_vaccine); however, a number of doses are required for it to be effective.[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis#cite_note-WHO2014-2) The United States Center for Disease Control (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Center_for_Disease_Control) recommends polio vaccination boosters for travelers and those who live in countries where the disease is occurring.[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis#cite_note-4) Once infected there is no specific treatment.[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis#cite_note-WHO2014-2) In 2013 polio affected 416 people down from 350,000 cases in 1988.[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis#cite_note-WHO2014-2) In 2014 the disease was only spreading between people in Afghanistan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan), Nigeria (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigeria), and Pakistan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan).[2]
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis#cite_note-WHO2014-2)
Poliomyelitis has existed for thousands of years, with depictions of the disease in ancient art.[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis#cite_note-PinkBook2009-1) The disease was first recognized as a distinct condition by Michael Underwood (http://javascript<strong></strong>:void(0)) in 1789[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis#cite_note-PinkBook2009-1) and the virus that causes it was first identified in 1908 by Karl Landsteiner (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Landsteiner).[5] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis#cite_note-5) Major outbreaks (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemic) started to occur in the late 19th century in Europe and the United States.[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis#cite_note-PinkBook2009-1) In the 20th century it became one of the most concerning childhood diseases (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_childhood_diseases) in these areas.[6] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis#cite_note-6) The first polio vaccine was developed in the 1950s by Jonas Salk (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonas_Salk).[7] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis#cite_note-Aylward_2006-7) It is hoped that vaccination (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccination) efforts and early detection of cases will result in global eradication (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eradication_of_infectious_diseases) of the disease by 2018.[8] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis#cite_note-8) In 2013; however, there were reports of new cases in Syria (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria)[9] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis#cite_note-9) and in May 2014, the World Health Organization (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Health_Organization) declared a public health emergency of international concern (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_health_emergency_of_international_concern) due to the outbreaks of disease in Asia, Africa and the Middle East.[10] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis#cite_note-10) The disease does not naturally occur in any other animals.[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis#cite_note-PinkBook2009-1)