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EE_
6th August 2015, 11:21 AM
Will you be watching the pre-main event forum in the 'Losers Lounge', or just the Debate?
Drudge Headline
REPUBLICAN CIVIL WAR: BUSH SAYS TRUMP 'BUFFOON' A 'CLOWN' AN 'ASSHOLE'
How Jeb and the GOP Got Trumped
The establishment wanted a sweet ’16, not a 17-candidate pileup. Here’s what happened.
By GLENN THRUSH and ALEX ISENSTADT August 06, 2015
Jeb Bush, the man who would be frontrunner, was as surprised as anybody when Donald Trump jumped into the 2016 presidential race in June. His instinctive first reaction was to hold his tongue, and his advisers agreed the best option was to keep his distance from an interloper who wanted to drag him into a reality-show shouting match.
Bush stayed strategically silent even when Trump delivered his infamous crack that some Mexican immigrants were “rapists.” It wasn’t easy, considering Bush speaks nearly flawless Spanish, backs comprehensive immigration reform and is married to the former Columba Garnica de Gallo of Leon, Mexico.
Like everyone else, Bush soon found Trump impossible to ignore. When Trump reposted a nasty tweet a couple of weeks after his contentious announcement speech— “Bush has to like Mexican illegals because of his wife”—the former Florida governor was forced to respond. “You can love your Mexican-American wife,” he told one interviewer before telling another that Trump was “preying on people’s fears.”
The half-dozen conservative senators and governors who had planned to run before Bush brought out his shock-and-awe fundraising campaign, had to laugh: They viewed Bush himself as an intruder, a political semi-retiree who sat on the sidelines for eight years while they fought Barack Obama. Now it was Bush’s turn to rage at an outsider.
“Seriously, what’s this guy’s problem?” he asked one party donor he ran into recently, according to accounts provided by several sources close to Bush—and he went on to describe the publicity-seeking real estate developer now surging in public polls far ahead of Bush and all the 15 others in the Republican field as “a buffoon,” “clown” and “asshole.”
Whatever Bush wants to call Trump, the most accurate appellation heading into Thursday night’s first big Republican debate of the chaotic 2016 contest in Cleveland is the label that should have been Bush’s: “frontrunner.”
Bush may yet emerge as the party’s nominee, the third member of his family to claim the mantle, and his aides now claim Trump’s bloviating presence in a record-shattering field of 17 could be a blessing, allowing Bush to fly under the radar. But Trump’s rise has coincided with Bush’s awkward return to the national stage, and he has proven to be gaffe-prone on the trail (Just this week he had to quickly walk back a statement that he wanted to de-fund “women’s health” programs, when he meant to say abortion services). The party’s conservative primary voters remain lukewarm and as importantly, he hasn’t scared rivals out of the race despite a massive $100 million-plus fundraising haul during his first few months in the race.
As much as anything, this is the story of 2016 so far. The proliferation of 17 candidates—a mob so big it needed to be subdivided into two separate debates—is a symptom of a deeper dynamic—the absence of a true frontrunner capable of uniting the party.
“The plan isn’t working,” conservative writer James Tobin wrote in Commentary magazine of Bush’s de facto entrance into the race in January. “[O]ther Republicans appear to be insufficiently shocked and awed.”
Trump is besting Bush so far, but it’s hardly a lock that this is anything more than summer fling. So far, The Donald has been immune from the backlash that typically kills mouth-driven campaigns—which is a good thing given his flip-flopping, amateur-hour staffing decisions, and relentless you’re-a-loser negativity, and the bad hair hidden under worse hats. But he shares a characteristic with all those lesser-known candidates who have also flooded into the 2016 race: He sees a vacuum at the top.
“You know, I thought about running in the past,” former New York Gov. George Pataki, the 8th candidate to announce his intention to run, told us. “I came close in 2012, but to be perfectly honest, Mitt Romney had been running for 6 years … it was pretty obvious that he had, if not a lock, a very, very strong hold on the Republican nomination.”
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PHOTO GALLERY: 17 candidates, a couple of babies and a moose: The 2016 GOP race so far (click to view gallery)
Jeb Bush? Not so much. “This time, I believe that, when I look at the field, that I have the ability to win this election,” added Pataki—and this is a man struggling to capture a single percentage point in recent polls.
“There’s no clear frontrunner,” says former House Newt Gingrich, a 2012 contender who briefly considered becoming Candidate 18 this spring before deciding the financial challenges were too great.
“There’s a vacuum in the party, and no one is filling it,” adds a veteran Republican operative who is backing Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, another candidate who sees Bush’s vulnerabilities but like the others has so far failed to capitalize on them. “That’s a recipe for chaos. Let’s see if anyone decides to flip the script Thursday and really go for it. I doubt it.”
In fact, Bush is still the best-funded candidate with the best organization and a focused, center-right message that seems best suited for a general election fight against the presumptive Democratic nominee, Hillary Clinton. His showing in the polls is weaker than Mitt Romney’s four years ago (he’s in the 15 percent range in recent surveys at a time when Romney was touching 20 percent) but he has been inching higher recently, passing Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker to claim second place behind Trump.
Moreover, it’s hard to see what any candidate—even the reincarnation of Ronald Reagan—might have done to stem the fever to compete that has infected Republicans this year, given the party’s deep ideological divisions and the proliferation of rich party donors willing to bankroll the long-shot hopes of second- and even third-tier candidates. The difference between 2016 and previous years, in the words of another single-digit candidate who requested anonymity, is that the threshold question has gone from “Why should I run” to “Why the hell shouldn’t I” run?
Democrats, enjoying the spectacle are pushing the idea that the overcrowded GOP field has become a “clown car” with Trump at the wheel. The 40-odd Republican operatives, donors and campaign officials we interviewed for this assessment of where the race stands at this official kickoff point disagreed—but mostly about the metaphor, characterizing the contest instead as more of a runaway train, with a crowd of wannabes wrestling for control.
“The media narrative you guys are spinning isn’t specific enough—we have exactly one clown in the car,” says a top Republican official, referring to Trump. “So why did it explode?” the official added. “Because we have something in the Republican Party that the Democrats don’t have to deal with: a multibillion-dollar business in TV, political punditry and books and talk radio—we built up a ton of personalities, people that you guys in the media think are off the radar have been quietly gaining power. A whole slew of folks think they can, and should, run the party.”
It’s an important point that came through in nearly all our interviews: 2016 isn’t so much about Trump or Bush as it is about a crisis in the Republican Party, which hasn’t had powerful political leadership since the George W. Bush-Karl Rove machine crashed after dispatching John Kerry in 2004. Even Republican control of both houses of Congress since last year’s midterm elections hasn’t tamed the party’s internal feuding—Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and Speaker John Boehner can hardly control their own caucuses never mind impose a code of conduct on unruly presidential hopefuls.
Behind the scenes Republican National Committee chairman Reince Priebus, a canny operative from Wisconsin, and party elders like his predecessor Haley Barbour have tried, mostly unsuccessfully, to keep the crowded field from turning into a Trump-incited mob. After Trump’s people leaked news of the chairman’s gentle request that the “Apprentice” star play nicer with fellow Republicans, Priebus tried another tack, advising several other campaigns to ignore Trump’s more outrageous statements and to “not engage him” insult-for-insult, according to a Republican operative close to several campaigns.
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madfranks
6th August 2015, 11:33 AM
I might watch it purely for the entertainment value.
EE_
6th August 2015, 11:37 AM
Looks like he's bringing his house maid to the debate.
https://usatelections.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/ap-gop-2016-iowa_001.jpg?w=1000&h=726
"Cuntswaylo, can't you walk any faster my little chile bean, we're going to be late to the debate"
"on mi paquito las piernas, su try, su grande"
https://lauramartinez.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/jebbushcolumba.jpg?w=640
http://www.newyorksocialdiary.com/legacy/i/partypictures/04_30_09/CASA-68.jpg
Jeb pene paquito, he like it, mi little hands make he pene look grande"
gunDriller
6th August 2015, 01:28 PM
if i was Bush i wouldn't say nasty things about Trump.
i thought Bush wanted to win the election.
ximmy
6th August 2015, 01:36 PM
what time is it on?.. never mind. I'm not going to watch.
madfranks
6th August 2015, 02:35 PM
I think Jeb's wife is actually a puppet and their whole marriage is one big ventriloquist show.
StreetsOfGold
6th August 2015, 03:04 PM
BUSH IS A 'BUFFOON' A 'CLOWN' AN 'ASSHOLE'
Bush told on himself
EE_
6th August 2015, 03:13 PM
I can't watch the loser lounge forum..
http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae141/kamikazescot/tumblr_m4eakexmVy1rppb1ko1_500.gif (http://s966.photobucket.com/user/kamikazescot/media/tumblr_m4eakexmVy1rppb1ko1_500.gif.html)
monty
6th August 2015, 04:12 PM
WHO IS DONALD TRUMP? A MUST READ & SHARE!
Donald Trump........who he REALLY is....
The criticisms of Trump are amazingly missing something.
They are lacking in negative stories from those who work for him or have had business dealings with him. After all the employees he’s had and all the business deals he’s made there is a void of criticism. In fact, long term employees call him a strong and merciful leader and say he is far more
righteous and of high integrity than people may think.
And while it may surprise many, he’s actually humble when it comes to his generosity and kindness. A good example is a story that tells of his limo breaking down on a deserted highway outside of New York City. A middle-aged couple stopped to help him and as a thank you he paid off their mortgage, but he didn’t brag about that. Generous and good people rarely talk of charity they bestow on others.
But as much as all this is interesting, the real thing that people want to know is what Donald Trump’s plan is for America. It’s funny how so many people say they don’t know what it is, or they act like Trump is hiding it. The information is readily available if people would just do a little homework. But, since most Americans won’t do their own research, here, in no particular order, is an overview of many of Trumps positions and plans:
1.) Trump believes that America should not intervene militarily in other country’s problems without being compensated for doing so. If America is going to risk the lives of our soldiers and incur the expense of going to war, then the nations we help must be willing to pay for our help. Using the Iraq War as an example, he cites the huge monetary expense to American taxpayers (over $1.5 trillion, and possibly much more depending on what sources are used to determine the cost) in addition to the cost in human life. He suggests that Iraq should have been required to give us enough of their oil to pay for the expenses we incurred. He includes in those expenses the medical costs for our military and $5 million for each family that lost a loved one in the war and $2 million for each family of soldiers who received severe injuries.
2.) Speaking of the military, Trump wants America to have a strong military again. He believes the single most important function of the federal government is national defense. He has said he wants to find the General Patton or General MacArthur that could lead our military buildup back to the strength it needs to be. While he hasn’t said it directly that I know of, Trump’s attitude about America and about winning tells me he’d most likely be quick to eliminate rules of engagement that handicap our military in battle. Clearly Trump is a “win at all costs” kind of guy, and I’m sure that would apply to our national defense and security, too.
3.) Trump wants a strong foreign policy and believes that it must include 7 core principles (which seem to support my comment in the last point):
American interests come first. Always. No apologies.
Maximum firepower and military preparedness.
Only go to war to win.
Stay loyal to your friends and suspicious of your enemies.
Keep the technological sword razor sharp.
See the unseen. Prepare for threats before they materialize.
Respect and support our present and past warriors.
4.) Trump believes that terrorists who are captured should be treated as military combatants, not as criminals like the Obama administration treats them.
5.) Trump makes the point that China’s manipulation of their currency has given them unfair advantage in our trade dealings with them. He says we must tax their imports to offset their currency manipulation, which will cause American companies to be competitive again and drive manufacturing back to America and create jobs here. Although he sees China as the biggest offender, he believes that America should protect itself from all foreign efforts to take our jobs and manufacturing. For example, Ford is building a plant in Mexico and Trump suggests that every part or vehicle Ford makes in Mexico be taxed 35% if they want to bring it into the U. S., which would cause companies like Ford to no longer be competitive using their Mexican operations and move manufacturing back to the U. S., once again creating jobs here.
6.) Trump wants passage of NOPEC legislation (No Oil Producing and Exporting Cartels Act – NOPEC – S.394), which would allow the government to sue OPEC for violating antitrust laws. According to Trump, that would break up the cartel. He also wants to unleash our energy companies to drill domestically (sound like Sarah Palin’s drill baby, drill?) thereby increasing domestic production creating jobs and driving domestic costs of oil and gas down while reducing dependence on foreign oil.
7.) Trump believes a secure border is critical for both security and prosperity in America. He wants to build a wall to stop illegals from entering put controls on immigration. (And he says he’ll get Mexico to pay for the wall, which many have scoffed at, but given his business successes I wouldn’t put it past him.) He also wants to enforce our immigration laws and provide no path to citizenship for illegals.
8.) Trump wants a radical change to the tax system to not only make it better for average Americans, but also to encourage businesses to stay here and foreign businesses to move here. The resulting influx of money to our nation would do wonders for our economy. He wants to make America the place to do business. He also wants to lower the death tax and the taxes on capital gains and dividends. This would put more than $1.6 trillion back into the economy and help rebuild the 1.5 million jobs we’ve lost to the current tax system. He also wants to charge companies who outsource jobs overseas a 20% tax, but for those willing to move jobs back to America they would not be taxed. And for citizens he has a tax plan that would allow Americans to keep more of what they earn and spark economic growth. He wants to change the personal income tax to:
Up to $30,000 taxed at 1%
From $30,000 to $100,000 taxed at 5%
From $100,000 to $1,000,000 taxed at 10%
$1,000,000 and above taxed at 15%
9.) Trump wants Obamacare repealed. He says it’s a “job-killing, health care-destroying monstrosity” that “can’t be reformed, salvaged, or fixed.” He believes in allowing real competition in the health insurance marketplace to allow competition to drive prices down. He also believes in tort reform to get rid of defensive medicine and lower costs.
10.) Trump wants spending reforms in Washington, acknowledging that America spends far more than it receives in revenue. He has said he believes that if we don’t stop increasing the national debt once it hits $24 trillion it will be impossible to save this country. Even though he says we need to cut spending, he does not want to harm those on Medicare, Medicaid, or Social Security. He believes that the citizens have faithfully paid in to the system to have these services available and that the American government has an obligation to fulfill its end of the bargain and provide those benefits. Therefore, he wants to build the economy up so that we have the revenue to pay those costs without cutting the benefits to the recipients. He disagrees with Democrats who think raising taxes is the answer and says that when you do that you stifle the economy. On the other hand, when you lower taxes and create an environment to help businesses they will grow, hire more workers, and those new workers will be paying taxes that become more tax revenue for the government.
11.) Even though he says we need to cut spending, he does not want to harm those on Medicare, Medicaid, or Social Security. He believes that the citizens have faithfully paid in to the system to have these services available and that the American government has an obligation to fulfill its end of the bargain and provide those benefits. Therefore, he wants to build the economy up so that we have the revenue to pay those costs without cutting the benefits to the recipients. He disagrees with Democrats who think raising taxes is the answer and says that when you do that you stifle the economy. On the other hand, when you lower taxes and create an environment to help businesses they will grow, hire more workers, and those new workers will be paying taxes that become more tax revenue for the government.
12.) Trump also wants reform of the welfare state saying that America needs “a safety net, not a hammock.” He believes in a welfare to work program that would help reduce the welfare roles and encourage people to get back to work. And he wants a crackdown on entitlement fraud.
13.) Trump believes climate change is a hoax.
14.) Trump opposes Common Core.
15.) Trump is pro-life, although he allows for an exception due to rape, incest, or the life of the mother.
16.) Trump is pro 2nd Amendment rights.
17.) Trump’s view on same-sex marriage is that marriage is between a man and a woman, but he also believes that this is a states' rights issue, not a federal issue.
18.) Trump supports the death penalty.
Trump believes that there is a lack of common sense, innovative thinking in Washington (Hmmm… looks like he believes in horse sense!). He says it’s about seeing the unseen and that’s the kind of thinking we need to turn this country around. He tells a personal story to illustrate the point:
“When I opened Trump National Golf Club at Rancho Palos Verdes in Los Angeles, I was immediately told that I would need to build a new and costly ballroom. The current ballroom was gorgeous, but it only sat 200 people and we were losing business because people needed a larger space for their events. Building a new ballroom would take years to get approval and permits (since it’s on the Pacific Ocean), and cost about $5 million. I took one look at the ballroom and saw immediately what needed to be done. The problem wasn’t the size of the room, it was the size of the chairs.
They were huge, heavy, and unwieldy. We didn’t need a bigger ballroom, we needed smaller chairs! So I had them replaced with high-end, smaller chairs. I then had our people sell the old chairs and got more money for them than the cost of the new chairs. In the end, the ballroom went from seating 200 people to seating 320 people. Our visitors got the space they desired, and I spared everyone the hassle of years of construction and $5 million of expense. It’s amazing what you can accomplish with a little common sense.”
On top of his saving years of construction and $5 million in expenses, he also was able to keep the ballroom open for business during the time it would have been under remodeling, which allowed him to continue to make money on the space instead of losing that revenue during construction time.
Donald Trump’s entire life has been made up of success and winning. He’s been accused of bankruptcies, but that’s not true. He’s never filed personal bankruptcy. He’s bought companies and legally used bankruptcy laws to restructure their debt, just as businesses do all the time. But he’s never been bankrupt personally.
He’s a fighter that clearly loves America and would fight for our nation.
Earlier I quoted Trump saying, “I love America. And when you love something, you protect it passionately – fiercely, even.” We never hear that from Democrats or even from most Republicans. Donald Trump is saying things that desperately need to be said but no other candidate has shown the fortitude to stand up and say them.
Looking over this list of what he wants for America I see a very necessary set of goals that are long past due. Before we criticize someone because the media does, maybe we should seriously consider what he has to offer.
Cebu_4_2
6th August 2015, 04:14 PM
Okay, what a fucked day. What time and what links are airing tonight? I am all into entertainment and I believe this is going to be worth watching. Need to make popcorn early so I don't miss what pisses Trump off and him going ballistic stupid.
Serpo
6th August 2015, 05:44 PM
Pappy BUSH ,,,,George BUSH........and now fricken Jeb...... BUSH........can some one tell me what is going on here..............
EE_
6th August 2015, 05:46 PM
Pappy BUSH ,,,,George BUSH........and now fricken Jeb...... BUSH........can some one tell me what is going on here..............
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txukr5zgHnw
Serpo
6th August 2015, 05:49 PM
Yea I was thinking of that vid too..................what about his father ,didnt he supply the NAZIS with financial backing..............
I heard they want to speed up getting the old world disorder (OWD) before he karks it.
ximmy
6th August 2015, 05:50 PM
Watch Republican Debate Streaming LIVE- August 6, 2015 at 5:00 PM & 9:00 PM ET, From Cleveland, Ohio Fox News Republican Presidential Primary Debates
http://12160.info/page/watch-republican-debate-streaming-live-august-6-2015-at-5-00-pm-9
Cebu_4_2
6th August 2015, 05:50 PM
So where are the links? I tried at fox and they automatically logged my wife on and it said not a applicable user... where are the links?
Cebu_4_2
6th August 2015, 05:52 PM
Watch Republican Debate Streaming LIVE- August 6, 2015 at 5:00 PM & 9:00 PM ET, From Cleveland, Ohio Fox News Republican Presidential Primary Debates
http://12160.info/page/watch-republican-debate-streaming-live-august-6-2015-at-5-00-pm-9
FFS thank you Ximmy!
Serpo
6th August 2015, 05:54 PM
Jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb jeb HAHAHAHA
Cebu_4_2
6th August 2015, 05:59 PM
Jeb for a Jab
Cebu_4_2
6th August 2015, 06:08 PM
Horeilly comments, what an ass. Jed 120M in the game. Trump unlimited. anyone else in this show?
EE_
6th August 2015, 06:14 PM
http://p1cdn06.thewrap.com/images/2015/07/Trump2.jpg
Cebu_4_2
6th August 2015, 06:20 PM
Jewswits, wont be surprised if it cuts out, would like 2-3 other sources please.
Ximmys live link: http://vaughnlive.tv/newzviewz
Serpo
6th August 2015, 06:22 PM
http://p1cdn06.thewrap.com/images/2015/07/Trump2.jpg
Or he gets no you know what to night.........
EE_
6th August 2015, 06:47 PM
So Carly Fiorina won big at the pre-debate. The rest did lousy and should all go home. They're done!
Carly should move up for the next debate, after the bottom tier is knocked out tonight's.
Cebu_4_2
6th August 2015, 06:54 PM
T-5.15 seconds.
Dogman
6th August 2015, 07:06 PM
Weapons of mass destruction are being lobbed !
Hoot !
Cebu_4_2
6th August 2015, 07:09 PM
Wow the fuck ups are fantastic, LMFAO!
EE_
6th August 2015, 07:30 PM
We're getting our money's worth tonight
Two missiles fired at Trump in the first 2 minutes. I'm loving it. He put the cunt in her place.
Is it not obvious to anyone they are trying to take Trump down.
Can hardly wait for the chatter tomorrow.
Serpo
6th August 2015, 08:12 PM
Servers have reached capacity................
Try again in a few moments.........
.....................its back
Cebu_4_2
6th August 2015, 08:33 PM
Rand is FUKT big time, lol
Trump is good and I dont remember that black dude Carson but I would vote him 1st class. He is seriously the most acknowledged so far.
EE_
6th August 2015, 08:36 PM
Rand and Christy are going to poll low tonight. Kasich is doing alright. I hate that big dummy Bush.
Shami-Amourae
6th August 2015, 08:37 PM
Rand is FUKT big time, lol
Trump is good and I dont remember that black dude but I would vote him 1st class.
The Dindu wants forced vaccinations on everyone, including adults.
Cebu_4_2
6th August 2015, 08:39 PM
Iran stocks 4x soon.
Simply simple, Trump lets us know.
Cebu_4_2
6th August 2015, 09:00 PM
no live chat besides the news thing? OMG this is great. LOL joke central.
Cebu_4_2
6th August 2015, 09:05 PM
#1 Trump
#2 Carson
Serpo
6th August 2015, 09:05 PM
And the winner is........................DEMOCKRACY.............
Cebu_4_2
6th August 2015, 09:10 PM
And the winner is........................DEMOCKRACY.............
Carson is Pres with Trump 2nd Czar
Trump bails cause he needs to do shit. Carson if fucked and calls Hillary. Climate change is amongst us.
Shami-Amourae
6th August 2015, 09:14 PM
#1 Trump
#2 Carson
It would be interesting if Carson was nominated. You'd see Dindus overwhelmingly vote for a White Democrat over a Dindu Republican, hopefully exposing that all they really care for is GibsMeDat.
Cebu_4_2
6th August 2015, 09:20 PM
It would be interesting if Carson was nominated. You'd see Dindus overwhelmingly vote for a White Democrat over a Dindu Republican, hopefully exposing that all they really care for is GibsMeDat.
contenders. Carson was seriously the most believable person up there. Everyone else kissing ass to Pissreal except Carson and Trump. It was worth the watch for me.
I was trying to relay the seriousness of the
Serpo
6th August 2015, 09:20 PM
Some very leading BS questions though.......why didnt they just ask ...........with Putin
would you castrate him
or would you decapitate him
Cebu_4_2
6th August 2015, 09:28 PM
Everyone got different questions, totally bullshit to claim a debate.
EE_
6th August 2015, 09:28 PM
I think it was a chicken shit way of asking trump if he'd sware to not run third party. They could have asked him directly. Then the stooge Bret Hume tried to paint Trump as cheap and petty...when it was Bret and Megyn that were cheap and petty.
The Cunt Megyn Kelly tried to get Trump's goat women hating bs. I think she was trying to set the tempo of Trumps night. I bet he'll have something to say about it later.
EE_
6th August 2015, 09:39 PM
Drudge Poll, who won the debate.
Vote here http://www.drudgereport.com/now.htm
Cebu_4_2
6th August 2015, 09:45 PM
Drudge Poll, who won the debate.
Vote here http://www.drudgereport.com/now.htm
Cheezes!
Trunp 40.5%
Carson 9.3%
Cruz and Paul beat Carson but whoaa where Carson come from?
Cebu_4_2
6th August 2015, 09:46 PM
Cheezes!
Trunp 40.5%
Carson 9.3%
Cruz and Paul beat Carson but whoaa where Carson come from?
I would try to edit that but it is usually best left alone.
monty
6th August 2015, 10:06 PM
I would try to edit that but it is usually best left alone.
Bush must be on the bottom?
Serpo
6th August 2015, 10:09 PM
Bush must be on the bottom?
Is that similar to scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Dogman
6th August 2015, 10:22 PM
Bush must be on the bottom? Then he is in his natural elemental place/position and environment !
;)
Serpo
6th August 2015, 10:55 PM
His grandfather fiances the nazis , his father wants a NWO and connected to JFK murder, his brother is implicated in 9/11 for the Carlye group.......................
Vote JEB..................................
Shami-Amourae
6th August 2015, 11:55 PM
His grandfather fiances the nazis , his father wants a NWO and connected to JFK murder, his brother is implicated in 9/11 for the Carlye group.......................
Vote JEB..................................
Hitler did nothing wrong.
http://s24.postimg.org/5zdb0yjad/1432761905635.png
EE_
7th August 2015, 04:10 AM
Cheezes!
Trunp 40.5%
Carson 9.3%
Cruz and Paul beat Carson but whoaa where Carson come from?
I think Drudge is a more realistic poll knowing how many conservative republicans follow the website. Not the dummied Fox poll
As of this morning:
Bush - 2% (2nd last place in front of Christie)
Trump - 51.5%
Shami-Amourae
7th August 2015, 04:17 AM
I think Drudge is a more realistic poll knowing how many conservative republicans follow the website. Not the dummied Fox poll
As of this morning:
Bush - 2% (2nd last place in front of Christie)
Trump - 51.5%
Bush has a lot of support in Florida from all the senile old people watching Fox News all day.
Jewboo
7th August 2015, 04:26 AM
As expected, Donald Trump launched some rhetorical fireworks in the GOP's first presidential primary debate (http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/debate-shows-trump-will-be-trump-not-bow-political-conventions-n405686). Here are a few of his most memorable lines:
1. Asked whether he would mount a third party challenge (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-unwilling-rule-out-independent-run-n405621) against the Republican nominee, Trump vowed that he wouldn't … as long as he was the nominee:
"I can't say that I have to respect that person who wins … If I'm the nominee, I pledge I will not run as an independent."
2. When Fox moderator Megyn Kelly challenged Trump about his history of referring to women as "fat pigs, dogs, slobs, and disgusting animals," (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-defends-past-remarks-about-women-n405631) Trump responded:
"Only Rosie O'Donnell."
3. After Kelly pointed out that he had directed that language at many more women than just O'Donnell, Trump said (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-debate-moderator-behaved-very-badly-n405731):
"Honestly, Megyn, if you don't like it, I'm sorry. I've been very nice to you, although I could probably not be based on the way you have treated me. But I wouldn't do that."
4. Trump explained why he believes the United States has failed to secure its border (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/trump-claims-debate-mexico-sends-bad-ones-u-s-n405661):
"Our leaders are stupid, our politicians are stupid and the Mexican government is much smarter."
5. Trump offered the following solution to the alleged border crisis:
"We need to build a wall and it has to be built quickly. And I don't mind having a big, beautiful door in that wall so that people can come into this country legally."
6. Confronted with his past donations to Hillary Clinton (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-aide-debate-was-destructive-night-republicans-n405721), Trump explained that he was just trying to buy influence over her:
"With Hillary, I said be at my wedding. And she came to my wedding. She had no choice."
7. Trump gave his polite assessment of President Obama's foreign policy:
"I would say he's incompetent, but I don't want to do that, because that's not nice"
8. He described how Iran would benefit from the newly signed nuclear agreement (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/iran-nuclear-talks):
"If Iran was a stock you should go out and buy it, cause you'll quadruple."
Serpo
7th August 2015, 05:25 AM
Bush has a lot of support in Florida from all the senile old people watching Fox News all day.
You mean the ones with Alzheimer's .....
EE_
7th August 2015, 05:26 AM
adds
As expected, Donald Trump launched some rhetorical fireworks in the GOP's first presidential primary debate (http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/debate-shows-trump-will-be-trump-not-bow-political-conventions-n405686). Here are a few of his most memorable lines:
1. Asked whether he would mount a third party challenge (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-unwilling-rule-out-independent-run-n405621) against the Republican nominee, Trump vowed that he wouldn't … as long as he was the nominee:
"I can't say that I have to respect that person who wins … If I'm the nominee, I pledge I will not run as an independent."
add (Anyone who's followed Trump knew his position on this. It would idiotic to think he would change his position and look like a flip-flopper)
2. When Fox moderator Megyn Kelly challenged Trump about his history of referring to women as "fat pigs, dogs, slobs, and disgusting animals," (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-defends-past-remarks-about-women-n405631) Trump responded:
"Only Rosie O'Donnell."
add (My reply as Trump would have been, "only Rosie O'Donnall, and she is no lady anymore then you are Megyn for asking this question in such a manor. I treat strong willed women as equals to men and just like men. You Megyn, have more testosterone then any man in this room...I can tell your clitoris is engorged with blood right now.)
3. After Kelly pointed out that he had directed that language at many more women than just O'Donnell, Trump said (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-debate-moderator-behaved-very-badly-n405731):
"Honestly, Megyn, if you don't like it, I'm sorry. I've been very nice to you, although I could probably not be based on the way you have treated me. But I wouldn't do that."
4. Trump explained why he believes the United States has failed to secure its border (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/trump-claims-debate-mexico-sends-bad-ones-u-s-n405661):
"Our leaders are stupid, our politicians are stupid and the Mexican government is much smarter."
5. Trump offered the following solution to the alleged border crisis:
"We need to build a wall and it has to be built quickly. And I don't mind having a big, beautiful door in that wall so that people can come into this country legally."
6. Confronted with his past donations to Hillary Clinton (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-aide-debate-was-destructive-night-republicans-n405721), Trump explained that he was just trying to buy influence over her:
"With Hillary, I said be at my wedding. And she came to my wedding. She had no choice."
add (money buys influence in this country and the world, if Fox news doesn't understand this with all the influence peddling they do, they are part of the problem. Fox news uses influence daily to sway their followers to the station owners positions. Megyn Kelly is the king of trying to influence Fox followers with the establishment's bought and paid for positions.)
7. Trump gave his polite assessment of President Obama's foreign policy:
"I would say he's incompetent, but I don't want to do that, because that's not nice"
8. He described how Iran would benefit from the newly signed nuclear agreement (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/iran-nuclear-talks):
"If Iran was a stock you should go out and buy it, cause you'll quadruple."
..........................
EE_
7th August 2015, 08:08 AM
About Megyn Kelly
I can imagine her new wife (Doug) is home doing dishes and changing diapers...saying yes dear, yes dear to anything she says.
Posted: February 3, 2015
Megyn Kelly: ‘Fox News’ Star’s Ex-Husband Claims He Wanted A Wife, And So Did She
Fox News host Megyn Kelly’s ex-husband said the journalist has a Type A personality and needed a Type B personality husband.
“We both needed someone to cook and clean.”
Dr. Dan Kendall also told the Daily Mail that he never cheated on Kelly, adding that it “bugged” him, allegedly hinting about such infidelity on-air.
Megyn Kelly and Dan Kendall were a couple for eight years, and married for nearly five years. The Fox News host is currently married to writer Doug Brunt. Dr. Kendall recalled his wedding to Megyn Kelly as a “very extravagant” affair at a church in Chicago, with a reception that followed at the Waldorf hotel.
“I can say with 100 percent certainty that I was completely faithful to Megyn. When she made that comment about it not being in her current marriage it irritated me a bit because it seemed like she was suggesting it was me. I texted her at the time and she apologized. I think I was a good husband,” Megyn Kelly’s ex-husband said.
Dr. Kendall, 45, reportedly lives in a $2 million home in Vienna, Virginia, a Washington, D.C., suburb. He is reportedly a top anesthesiologist and pain management doctor. When the couple amicably divorced in 2006, Kelly allegedly moved to a home 200 yards away “so they could keep close.” Any attempts at reconciling failed, and both the doctor and the Fox News star are now both reportedly happily remarried and have young children.
“I wanted a wife and she wanted a wife, we both needed someone to cook and clean and support us. She has very much a Type A personality. I couldn’t imagine her staying at home. She needed more of a Type B husband. Sometimes with two professionals it doesn’t work out, we were both working extremely hard and both excelling at what we did. It is just a matter that sometimes two personalities can clash. So we broke up, it was mutual. She wanted to work on things and wanted to keep it going but I realized it wasn’t going anywhere. She moved just down the street and it was very amicable. We still walked the dogs together,” Megyn Kelly’s ex-husband said.
Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/1811614/megyn-kelly-fox-news-stars-ex-husband-claims-he-wanted-a-wife-and-so-did-she/#b6lF6mg06alOHYRv.99
I guess she's being attacked on facebook today with thousands of posts, on what a nasty bitch she is.
Ares
7th August 2015, 09:21 AM
Yeah I was reading through the comments on her Facebook page. She's getting completely smashed for her bias questioning last night during the debates. Wish people showed this much angst when Ron Paul was running. But maybe it's a wake up moment for the people to see how truly corrupt every thing is.
EE_
7th August 2015, 09:52 AM
Yeah I was reading through the comments on her Facebook page. She's getting completely smashed for her bias questioning last night during the debates. Wish people showed this much angst when Ron Paul was running. But maybe it's a wake up moment for the people to see how truly corrupt every thing is.
Her question was a dirty cheap shot done to get his goat and hopefully to get him to crack. She should be removed from any future debates, or comments on candidates.
That theatrical display trying to make Trump look like a villain regarding a third party run was dirty pool too. The question should have been directly asked to him, not the way they did it. "Who here of all of you is a piece of shit that will hand the democraps the win...hold your hand up you piece of shit"
I hate Fox news and want Trump even more now. I made the rounds and voted on all the polls. Trump is still blowing them all away.
The polls also show the Bush numbers were all lies from the start. The big dumb bastard is at the bottom of all the polls.
I give Trump the win last night because he was given the worst questions and didn't crack.
I think if nothing else, supporting Trump is payback for Ron Paul. He is definitely not the bought and paid for establishment's choice.
Ares
7th August 2015, 11:20 AM
He is definitely not the bought and paid for establishment's choice.
How do you buy a guy whose net worth is 4.1+ billion dollars?
If Trump gets closed to getting the victory, it might end up as another Robert Kennedy incident. These assholes will not let go of power, and they certainly won't let someone like Trump take it from them.
monty
7th August 2015, 11:27 AM
How do you buy a guy whose net worth is 4.1+ billion dollars?
If Trump gets closed to getting the victory, it might end up as another Robert Kennedy incident. These assholes will not let go of power, and they certainly won't let someone like Trump take it from them.
They shut Ross Perot down. Considering Bill Clinton's career as governor in Arkansas I would surely bewatching my back if I were Trump.
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?84495-Bill-Clinton-Tells-Jeb-Bush-%93This-Trump-Thing-Will-Be-Taken-Care-Of-%94&p=784845&viewfull=1#post784845
Celtic Rogue
7th August 2015, 12:31 PM
I am no longer a fan of any of the debate commentators! Never really was... They showed that they are not fair and balanced and only carry water for establishment GOP candidates! Part of the system and the problem!
Serpo
7th August 2015, 01:18 PM
NaturalNews) Everybody I know was watching the Republican debate tonight, wanting to find out who might stand out from the crowd.
But the one thing that really stood out was the total fraud of what Fox News pulled off. It was clear from the first five minutes that Fox News had pre-arranged softball questions for Jeb Bush to highlight his "heroic actions" and accomplishments. Meanwhile, the kinds of questions directed to Donald Trump were all thinly veiled accusations and insults, designed to attack Trump on issues that had nothing to do with running the country.
Click here for my complete notes and logs from the debate (http://www.naturalnews.com/050683_Republican_debate_Donald_Trump_Jeb_Bush.htm l).
The typical questions went something like this: (paraphrased)
Fox News: "Jeb Bush, how did you get to be such an amazing leader?"
Fox News: "Donald Trump, who do you hate women?"
As if a debate with totally contrived questions wasn't enough, Fox News also had a pre-arranged assembly of apparently "ordinary citizens" who were asked, after the debate, how many of them now hated Donald Trump.
In all, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, John Kasich, Ben Carson and Scott Walker all came off as highly intelligent, passionate Americans. Rand Paul was off his game but made some great points nonetheless. Christie just looked like Jabba the Jackass, wagging his finger at Rand Paul while promoting the Orwellian surveillance state. But the real jackass of the night was Fox News itself, which clearly fed Jeb Bush a list of pre-arranged softball questions.
Breitbart News also noticed this, running a headline that reads, Fox News vs. The Donald: Anchors Try to Take Out Trump (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/06/live-updates-10-candidates-spar-in-first-gop-presidential-debate/).
It's just so pathetic to watch this unfoldJust as the Democrats have already crowned Hillary Clinton their nominee, establishment Republicans have now crowned Jeb Bush as theirs. Just what America needs, right? Another Bush / Clinton showdown where everybody loses.
If this continues, by next November, we'll all get to go to the voting booths and choose the least offensive political criminal on the ballot. Yay for democracy, eh?
Meanwhile, the DrudgeReport.com (http://DrudgeReport.com) reader poll currently shows Trump as the clear winner of the debate, with a 45% winning vote at the time of this writing.
The bottom line? Even Fox News is desperately trying to destroy Donald Trump, but it's not working. The Don lives on, and now Fox News has damaged its own reputation for "Fair and Balanced" by being obviously biased and pathetic in how it managed the debate.
Seriously? The first question to Donald Trump is why he hates women? Isn't that like opening your TV news show with a smear question like, "When did you stop beating your wife?"
Follow all the breaking news headlines on Donald Trump at TRUMP.news (http://trump.news)
http://www.naturalnews.com/050697_Fox_News_debate_fraud_Donald_Trump.html
Serpo
7th August 2015, 01:25 PM
Fox moderator Megyn Kelly began a question for Trump by saying, “One of the things people love about you is you speak your mind and you don’t use a politician’s filter. However, that is not without its downsides, in particular when it comes to women. You’ve called women you don’t like ‘fat pigs, dogs, slobs’ and ‘disgusting animals.’”
Trump interrupted, “Only Rosie O’Donnell.”
The audience roared its approval.
A visibly angry Kelly continued. “For the record, it was well beyond Rosie O’Donnell.”
“Yes, I’m sure it was,” admitted Trump cheerfully.
“Does that sound to you like the temperament of a man we should elect as president,” asked Kelly, “and how will you answer the charge from Hillary Clinton, who is likely to be the Democratic nominee, that you are part of the war on women?”
“I think the big problem this country has is being politically correct. I’ve been challenged by so many people and I don’t, frankly, have time for total political correctness. And to be honest with you, this country doesn’t have time either. This country is in big trouble. We don’t win anymore: we lose to China, we lose to Mexico – both in trade and at the border – we lose to everybody. And, frankly, what I say – and often times it’s fun, it’s kidding, we have a good time – what I say is what I say.”
http://www.commdiginews.com/politics-2/donald-trumps-shocking-hand-gesture-to-republicans-46283/
(http://www.commdiginews.com/politics-2/donald-trumps-shocking-hand-gesture-to-republicans-46283/) https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/563326025208442882/iJhFoEEV_bigger.jpeg Rosie ✔ @Rosie (https://twitter.com/Rosie)
try explaining that 2 ur kids
(http://www.commdiginews.com/politics-2/donald-trumps-shocking-hand-gesture-to-republicans-46283/) Rosie Worse at Jokes ThanObama • 15 minutes ago (http://www.prisonplanet.com/heres-how-rosie-odonnell-responded-to-donald-trump-calling-her-a-fat-pig.html#comment-2180024835) For a comedienne that is a pretty weak come back. Trump says on national tv that he only called Rosie O'Donnell a fat pig and she tweets 'try explaining that 2 ur kids'. She could have tweeted anything. Trump has so many things she could have focused on and she tweets that. Weak, very weak! I don't like Rosie but gee wiz I expect better come backs than that from her. Even Hitlery probably would have come up with a better retort than that. Rosie needs to go back to clown school or where ever half @ss leftist comediennes go to make liberals laugh.
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Serpo
7th August 2015, 01:37 PM
After the mainstream media desperately tried to destroy Donald Trump by defaming him with a barrage of made-up lies -- that's what the media does best -- suddenly all the journalists who tried to destroy Trump are befuddled by his inexplicable rise in the polls.
But it isn't inexplicable at all, it turns out. The American people are sick and tired of being constantly lied to by doublespeak politicians and Washington criminals like the Clintons and Bushes.
They're sick and tired of the McCain RINOs, the Biden clowns and the same old useless ideas of hope and change which always end up being "tyranny and impoverishment" with a heavy dose of government propaganda.
The American people, I submit, are on the verge of revolt. After suffering for 6+ years under the Obama regime, the American middle class is being systematically obliterated. Parental rights are being routinely trampled. Serious government corruption and criminality is exploding. People are less free, less wealthy and less happy about almost everything (http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2015/08/04/chart-of-the-day-americans-are-not-happy/). The stock market is a manipulated mirage; the government's unemployment statistics are elaborate fiction; the executive branch of government is an out-of-control tyrannical regime; and the mainstream media is so full of hilarious lies and truly idiotic "journalists" that more and more people are just turning it off and discovering independent media instead (see FETCH.news (http://fetch.news))
To many, Trump is the right radical for a time of national desperation
In the midst of all this, Donald Trump arrives on the scene. He's rich... super rich!... which means he can't be bought off by corporate interests. He's bombastic and seemingly rude at times... yet the American people are tired of being lied to by false politeness and patronizing politicians. Trump doesn't surrender to the usual barrage of media-catapulted guilt trips and shaming attempts... instead, he fights back and doubles down.
There's something about this that's curiously likeable, especially in a time when nearly all Republicans -- other than Ted Cruz and Rand Paul -- have abandoned anything resembling backbone or courage. (Then again, I did really appreciate Ted Cruz cooking bacon on the barrel of his AR-15. A true Texan!)
So Trump has become an enigma to the lying mainstream media. They aren't used to people standing up for themselves and defying the usual MSNBC smirkathons and shame-fests. Lamestream media journalists are used to being able to shout down and embarrass all their political opponents, and until Trump came along, almost nobody had the balls to stand their ground and point out the idiocy of today's status quo.
Trump is viewed as a political gladiator for radical change
That's why people like Trump, I think. He's their fighter in the ring. He's the guy who gives the finger to Washington -- a gesture we'd all like to practice on a daily basis, of course. Trump isn't the guy you necessarily want to have over for dinner, and he's not the kind of personality you want marrying your daughter. But that's not the role of a President in the first place (unless your name is Bill Clinton, in which case his job is to SLEEP with your daughter!).
Trump, I think, is increasingly seen as America's political gladiator, fighting in the political arena with a steadfastness that never really exists among career politicians. He's the kind of personality, in other words, that people want fighting for them when the going gets rough. Think about it: Who wouldn't want Trump on their team when the chips are down and it's time to battle for America? He may be kind of a jerk, but he's OUR jerk!
By the way, I recently launched Trump.news (http://trump.news), the only independent media news aggregation site in the world that focuses entirely on Donald Trump. Headlines are updated every hour of the day and are gathered from over 5,000 news sites in near-real-time. Check it out to stay up to date on what the indy media is reporting on Donald Trump.
Too volatile to predict what happens next
Will this fascination with Trump last? No one can say. Trump is a lot less predictable than career politicians, of course. If he gets bored or ticked off with the whole process, he can simply remove himself from the brawl and go back to the world of business and real estate. Even if he quits tomorrow, he's already a legend just by standing up to the lamestream media's lies and defamation attempts.
Or, to the horror of many on the right, Trump could deliberately throw this election to the Democrats by declaring himself a third-party candidate, revisiting the Ross Perot effect of getting Democrats elected by splitting the conservative vote.
Some people believe Trump is a deliberate distraction... maybe even a double agent... who's actually seeking to put Clinton into office. But I think that's a stretch. In my assessment, Trump shares the kind of "sick and tired" wake-up call that millions of other Americans are also experiencing. I think he's just fed up with the total incompetence of bad government, the tragically horrible diplomacy of the Obama regime (Iran deal, anyone?) and the criminality of the Clinton regime in particular. The fact that there are still Democrats on the left who support Hillary Clinton -- one of the most monstrous criminal politicians to ever occupy high public office in America -- just shows you how far gone this country already is.
My guess is that Trump just wants to fight for America's interests and help prevent the nation from descending into "full retard" status. But what happens if Trump actually gets elected? That's a real wild card. Trump is used to barking orders to employees, not working the plodding, elaborate machinery of Washington's politics. He's not a "you pat my back and I'll pat yours" kind of guy. He's more like a, "You do what I say or I'll kick you in the balls" persona. He's the Hulk Hogan of politics, if you will. But is it all scripted like pro wrestling? There's no way to know...
A Clinton election will unleash a mass revolt across America
As a Texan, I can tell you that if Clinton gets elected to the White House, it will set off a conservative revolt that very likely involves the mass nullification of federal laws followed by serious talk of secession.
Rural America, in particular, grows tired of working 60 hours a week just to send money to Washington so that they can redistribute it to entitlement recipients in America's collapsing (liberal) cities. The lies of socialism and Big Government simply can't be sustained much longer. Sooner or later, Big Government runs out of other people's money, after all.
Texas is right now the economic powerhouse of America. It has most of the nation's fastest-growing cities, most of the energy infrastructure, high technology, food production, business innovation and a climate for agriculture. Texas has about the same GDP as the entire nation of Canada, by the way, and when push comes to shove, Texas will shove back.
Check out this fascinating article entitled If every state of the USA declared war against each other, which would win? (http://www.quora.com/If-every-state-of-the-USA-declared-war-against-each-other-which-would-win) The answer, of course, is Texas.
But getting back to Trump, if Trump gets elected, he's going to face the kind of barrage from the media that Jesse Ventura endured as the Governor of Minnesota. The merciless attacks on Ventura were all grounded in the mass media's outright hatred of anyone who spoke the truth on any subject at all.
For his part, Donald Trump openly talks about links between vaccines and autism (http://www.naturalnews.com/035486_Donald_Trump_vaccines_autism.html) -- a subject that virtually all informed people know to be true... but talking about it still earns a person mass ridicule from the pharma-corrupted mainstream media that continues to deny the simple fact that flu shots still contain toxic mercury.
Trump reminds me of Ventura in some ways, but Trump is of course far more experienced in the business world and has the benefit of several billion dollars of personal wealth to back him up. The lamestream media has already discovered they can't intimidate Trump, and the more they lie about him, the higher his popularity ratings skyrocket. They still can't figure out how to destroy him, so now the political games will take place with the state delegates, where the Bush camp has all the connections and influence.
Frankly, if Trump can overcome all that, he probably deserves to be President. What kind of President he might actually be is anybody's guess. He certainly won't be boring! Then again, neither was President Camacho from Idiocracy...
http://www.naturalnews.com/050682_Donald_Trump_American_revolt_radical_change .html
EE_
7th August 2015, 03:23 PM
Fox News Couldn't Kill Trump’s Momentum and May Have Only Made It Stronger
Aug 7, 2015 6:30 AM EDT
Judging by Thursday’s electric debate, he may have sensed his true opponent before anyone else had a clue: the network.
A few hours before Thursday’s Fox News debate, a friend of Donald Trump’s confided to me that Trump was nervous. Not about the competition—he could handle them. No, Trump worried about Fox News, and in particular, debate moderator Megyn Kelly. She’d been hammering him all week on her show, and he was certain she was out to get him. He’d canceled a Fox News appearance on Monday night, the friend said, in order to avoid her. (Trump’s spokeswoman wouldn’t confirm or deny this.)
It turns out Trump was right. His toughest opponents Thursday night weren’t the candidates up on stage, but the Fox News moderators, who went right after him—none with more gusto than Kelly.
Kelly, the whip-smart queen of Fox News’ blonde stunners, went straight for the jugular. “You've called women you don't like fat pigs, dogs, slobs and disgusting animals,” she admonished Trump. “Does that sound to you like the temperament of a man we should elect as president?”
“I had more emotion about Fox News tonight than I did about Donald Trump.”
Janet Roberts, 69, a nurse in Bellville, Ohio
But Trump saw her coming a mile away and cut her off. “Only Rosie O’Donnell,” he barked, drawing cheers from the crowd. When Kelly tried to point out that he had insulted more women than O’Donnell, Trump, as he would all night, steamrolled right past her. “The big problem this country has is being politically correct,” Trump practically shouted, invoking conservatives’ favorite term of disdain. “I’ve been challenged by so many people and I don't frankly have time for total political correctness and to be honest with you this country doesn't have time either.” The crowd went wild.
Maybe they were cheering because the question was apropos of something Rachel Maddow would ask, and they were, after all, Republicans. But I think they were cheering because it was clear, at that moment, that Trump was going to be Trump, and wasn’t going to heed the pundits and phonies to tone down his act. According to a report in New York magazine, even his own daughter, Ivanka, was making that case.
When it became clear last week that Trump was the Republican front-runner, everyone assumed that the big battle shaping up in Republican politics was going to be between Trump and former Florida Governor Jeb Bush. But judging by Thursday’s raucous, electric debate, Trump may have sensed his true opponent before anyone else had a clue: It’s Fox News. Throughout the evening, Trump and his inquisitors battled back and forth like gladiators. Both parties emerged as huge winners. Though nearly devoid of substance, it was the most entertaining debate I’ve ever seen.
Trump led the way. His ethos—the blustering bravado and aggression—became the ethos of the whole affair. New Jersey Governor Chris Christie went bananas on Kentucky Senator Rand Paul. The crowd was roaring throughout. There was none of the stilted, awkward talk of the junior debate earlier in the evening. Political Twitter was throbbing with joy and satisfaction.
Hurling insults, Trump went after O’Donnell, political reporters, Bowe Bergdahl, China, Mexico, Japan, money lenders, and practically everyone in Washington. “Our leaders are stupid,” he said, “Our politicians are stupid.” He did stop short of calling Mexicans “rapists,” but not by much. “We need to build a wall, and it has to be built quickly,” he said. “We need to keep illegals out.”
While the moderators went after Trump, the candidates mostly shied away from him. In fact, consciously or otherwise, several echoed his points and nearly everyone tried to match his energy. Some even seemed to genuflect. “Donald Trump is hitting a nerve in this country,” Ohio Governor John Kasich said at one point. “Mr. Trump is touching a nerve because people want to see a wall being built.”
Only Paul mustered the nerve to launch a pair of (pretty weak) direct attacks. He might have regretted it. Trump dispatched him with a single, withering aside (“You’re having a hard time tonight”) that was all the more effective because it was true.
Trump’s Fox News antagonists had their moments, too. When moderator Chris Wallace invoked the four bankruptcies his companies have suffered, Trump, seeming genuinely angry, repeatedly fell back on an oddly phrased legalism: “I have used the laws of this country just like the greatest people you read about in the business section,” he said.
But it was Kelly who inflicted the deepest cut by rattling off the liberal positions Trump once held and stopping him cold with the question: “When did you actually become a Republican?” Trump’s bluster escaped him. He stammered nervously and seemed lost. “I’ve evolved on many issues over the years, and do you know who else has? Ronald Reagan,” he said feebly. “Very much evolved.” That’s as un-Trump-like a phrase as I’ve heard from him, something more befitting 2012 nominee Mitt Romney.
What’s more interesting than any Trump question or answer, though, was the larger dynamic at play. If Fox News has really turned on Trump, it will add a fascinating new twist to the race. Right now, Trump is the dominant candidate in the field because he has exerted a broad appeal to every part of the Republican Party. How might those Republicans react to Fox News—their own network!—aggressively trying to take down their favorite candidate?
To find out, I called Janet Roberts, 69, a nurse in Bellville, Ohio, who participated in last week’s Bloomberg Politics poll and supported Trump (“He has the balls to stand up to the career politicians”). She had agreed to give me her reaction immediately after the debate. When I called, Roberts was furious. “I had more emotion about Fox News tonight than I did about Donald Trump,” she told me. “Those questions were not professional questions. They were bullying. They were set up to purposely make them all look bad. Our country is a mess and I feel like the debate was an example of that. I’m still with Trump.”
In fact, Roberts said, after watching the debate, she felt even more strongly than before. “He was very composed,” she said. “It’s probably difficult for him, because he’s a very opinionated person.”
We won’t know for a few more days if other Republicans reacted to the debate as Roberts did. But my guess is that Trump didn’t hurt himself and might even emerge stronger than before. There’s an unspoken accord between Trump and his supporters that Thursday’s debate can only have intensified. Trump rants and raves in language that upsets and scandalizes the establishment. In return, his fans annoy the elite know-it-alls by rallying to him anyway. Together, they raise a big middle finger to everyone. That’s the art of the deal.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-08-07/fox-news-couldn-t-kill-trump-s-momentum-and-may-have-only-made-it-stronger
Brande Roderick Defends Trump: I Don’t Even Remember ‘Get On Your Knees’ Comment
Entertainment Editor
2:22 PM 08/07/2015
During the GOP debate Thursday night, Megyn Kelly brought up the season of “Celebrity Apprentice” when Donald Trump told Brande Roderick it would be “a pretty picture to see her on her knees,” and now Roderick is defending Trump, saying she doesn’t remember him making the comment in the first place.
“Your Twitter account has several disparaging comments about women’s looks,” Kelly said to Trump. “You once told a contestant on ‘Celebrity Apprentice’ it would be a pretty picture to see her on her knees. Does that sound to you like the temperament of a man we should elect as president?”
Trump defended himself by arguing that the country is too politically correct, and the former Playboy Playmate is defending him as well.
“Like him, I didn’t even remember him saying that,” Roderick said during an interview on MSNBC Friday morning. “I’ve always had a positive experience around Donald. He’s always been encouraging. He’s never been disrespectful to me.”
“I don’t condone men being derogatory, but I think he’s just on television. He’s trying to be funny. He didn’t mean anything horrible by it.”
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2015/08/07/brande-roderick-defends-trump-i-dont-even-remember-get-on-your-knees-comment/#ixzz3iAOQU400
Serpo
7th August 2015, 04:02 PM
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Serpo
7th August 2015, 04:23 PM
GOP Debates Post-Mortem: Fiorina Wins Undercard; Trump Takes Title, Threatens Independent Run
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Submitted by Tyler Durden (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden) on 08/06/2015 23:06 -0400
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17 Entered... Despite the onslaught of attacks from the other 16 GOP Presidential nominee candidates, Donald Trump came out the 'winner' in his usual brash manner threatening to run as an independent and able to dominate the conversation, pitbull back at any jibes, and shrug off cozy Clintonite comments. Ted Cruz and Rand Paul appeared to have a strong showing but "had a tough night" in Trump's words. Rick Perry blew up again, calling the former President Ronald 'Raven' - which his team vehemently denied the entire FOX watching audience heard. Carly Fiorina easily won the undercard against a field of has-beens and wannabes and surely deserves some more top-billing in the next Republican death-match. In the immortal words of Kenny Rogers, we hope a few of the 17-strong gaggle now "know when to fold 'em," and can we suggest Rick Perry's corner "throws in the damn towel."
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The Main Event..
Trump came out swinging hard...
*TRUMP ONLY CANDIDATE WHO DOESN'T PLEDGE TO BACK GOP NOMINEE
*TRUMP SAYS WON'T RULE OUT INDEPENDENT BID FOR PRESIDENT
As AP reports,
The first Republican primary debate got off to a contentious start Thursday, with billionaire businessman Donald Trump declaring he could not commit to supporting the party's eventual nominee — unless it's him — and would not rule out running as a third-party candidate.
"I will not make the pledge at this time," Trump said. He also refused to apologize for making insulting comments about women, saying, "The big problem this country has is being political correct."
Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul immediately jumped in to challenge Trump on his answer to the question about supporting the nominee.
"He's already hedging his bets because he's used to buying politicians," Paul said.
* * *
Trump spoke the most...
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2015/08/20150806_debate4.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2015/08/20150806_debate4.jpg)
(http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-06/gop-debates-post-mortem-fiorina-wins-undercard-trump-takes-title-threatens-independe)http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-06/gop-debates-post-mortem-fiorina-wins-undercard-trump-takes-title-threatens-independe
24 MILLION WATCHED FOXNEWS DEBATE; ALL RECORDS SHATTERED (http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/fox-news-has-most-watched-primary-debate-ever-24-million-tune-in/269157)
expat4ever
7th August 2015, 10:22 PM
The media and politicians are scared because they are so out of touch with the real people in this country. They represent the 1% who buy them. Anyone who comes along and acts like they might care about the other 99%, the constitution and our inalienable rights is going to be anti establishment.
expat4ever
7th August 2015, 10:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbok7_gZ4HA
Serpo
8th August 2015, 12:46 AM
LOTFI: Fox News one of Hillary Clinton’s biggest donors for better part of two decades
21st Century Fox / News Corp
$3,002,926
http://truthinmedia.com/lotfi-fox-news-one-of-hillary-clintons-biggest-donors-for-more-than-two-decades/
Serpo
8th August 2015, 02:58 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=313&v=up8hbWjYI34
Cebu_4_2
8th August 2015, 04:36 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=313&v=up8hbWjYI34
That was painful to listen to.
EE_
8th August 2015, 05:25 AM
Does anyone stop to think how corrupt the republican party must be, has shown themselves to be?
The democrap party would never attack their own, especially their front runner by a huge margin.
Their goal is to keep the party in power and it doesn't matter who it is.
Look at Hillary with all her baggage and criminal history. You can't find a liberal democrap anywhere that will speak against her. Their party praises crime, corruption, sodomy and lies...they are considered attributes.
Now look at the corrupt republican party and the republican Fox news.
They had someone that was/is a clear choice of the people, someone that could put the party back in power. Instead of helping Trump shape his campaign by having him on their show to discuss his deficiencies to make him a better candidate, they chose to attack their own party front runner (by a huge margin) with vicious character assassinations and petty name calling. One would think the most important thing is for the party to take back the power in government.
The republicans started this war with Trump with the cheap name calling, words like baffoon and clown, or jokes about his hair...he only responded to his party members with stronger counter attacks.
It didn't have to be this way. You don't see Fox republicans attack Carly about her terrible track record and snooty face, or call Rubio 'Dumbo ears' and his inexperience, or Bush for marrying a women that looks like his midget house maid and his failure president brother. They didn't even attack the fat guy Christy and his failed NJ state.
So why did this war with Trump happen? Could it be that Fox news and the people that represent the republican party, are bought and paid for by their Jewish owners, the Jewish bankers. That they were told to take Trump out, because he is not the choice they bought and paid for?
It should be obvious to anyone, that is why.
I personally don't mind how crude Trump's insults are to his own so called party members. Like Trump, I'm one that doesn't believe in tit for tat fighting.
Furthermore, I hope Trump does end up running third party, because I know he will not be allowed to be the nominee.
Republicans don't deserve to be in power anymore then the democraps.
The republican party is bought and paid for and is corrupt to it's core.
Trump's style is like this, (Magan Kelly is the man at the bar and Nicky is Trump)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEbpXnJGEq4&feature=youtu.be
Shami-Amourae
8th August 2015, 06:06 AM
The Democrat Party is basically what the Elite want. The Republican Party is more of a Ringer that is meant to compromise and compromise and push things further towards Marxism/Leftism.
Trump is starting to go off script like Hitler did. The Elite fear shit like that.
Serpo
8th August 2015, 06:14 AM
All the shadow /false is being exposed the world over , lift up the rock and see them scurry, American politics being exposed through Trump for what it is ..............a criminal organization with career politicians who have been taking kick backs for decades. They make me so sick i would gladly throw up over the whole lot of them.
Lies are going to lose , truth is going to prevail and we will have a world that the people wont even recognize ............hopefully.
Serpo
8th August 2015, 06:16 AM
The Democrat Party is basically what the Elite want. The Republican Party is more of a Ringer that is meant to compromise and compromise and push things further towards Marxism/Leftism.
Trump is starting to go off script like Hitler did. The Elite fear shit like that.
Screw the elite , who do they think they are................they would be no better than the cronies they install, they all have a soft underbelly.
EE_
8th August 2015, 07:09 AM
More about Megyn Kelly
Fox News Anchor Megyn Kelly Admitted into Psychiatric Ward
Written by Alex Kuzio December 13th 2013
NEW YORK – Fox News host Megyn Kelly has been admitted to an undisclosed psychiatric ward at a New York area hospital, according to family and friends. Kelly—a long-serving daytime host at Fox News—was forcibly admitted earlier this week after she argued on live TV that Santa Claus “is white,” and should therefore never be depicted as any other race.
Doctors who have examined the anchor say that Kelly—who joined the Fox News team in 2004 and currently hosts “The Kelly File”—is suffering from “bizarre delusions” and “obsessiveness.”
On Wednesday, Kelly used a portion of her show to attack a recent Slate.com article that argued Santa Claus needn’t always be portrayed as a white man, since children of color often feel left out. “For all you kids watching at home, Santa just is white,” Kelly said. “But this person is just arguing that maybe we should also have a black Santa. But Santa is what he is.”
Doctors say that “only someone very deranged would argue about a make-believe character’s race,” and Bass believes that Kelly will need months of close psychiatric attention in order to get better.
“We’re not just dealing with the Santa Claus delusion,” Dr. Bass explained. “Megyn also called it a ‘verifiable fact’ that ‘Jesus was a white man, too.’ Now, most people who aren’t crazy know that Jesus was a Middle Eastern Jew, which isn’t exactly WASP, so you can see how troubled Ms. Kelly’s mind has become.”
A family member told Newslo that those closest to her have worried about Kelly’s mental health for some time. “Not too long ago, our Meggy went on Fox and said that pepper spray is ‘a derivative of actual pepper, a food product, essentially.’ That’s when we knew she had lost her grip on reality, but this whole ‘Santa-Claus-was-a-white-dude’ obsession made it clear to us that she needed professional help.”
Fox News producers say that Kelly’s “insane ideas” were what made her an “effective Fox News host.” “It’ll be tough filling her shoes while she’s gone,” said one producer, “and let’s hope the doctors don’t heal her too well. We’d hate to see her leave cable news for good.”
http://www.newslo.com/fox-news-anchor-megyn-kelly-admitted-into-psychiatric-ward/
EE_
8th August 2015, 07:26 AM
AUGUST 7, 2015
Trump’s Triumph: Billionaire Blowhard Exposes Fake Political System
by MIKE WHITNEY
Last night’s FOX News GOP Presidential Debate Extravaganza featured the most riveting two minute political exchange ever heard on national television. During a brief colloquy between Republican frontrunner Donald Trump and Fox moderator Brett Baier, the pugnacious casino magnate revealed the appalling truth about the American political system, that the big money guys like Trump own the whole crooked contraption lock, stock, and barrel, and that, the nation’s fake political leaders do whatever they’re told to do. Without question, it was most illuminating commentary to ever cross the airwaves. Here’s the entire exchange direct from the transcript:
FOX News Brett Baier (talking to Trump): Now, 15 years ago, you called yourself a liberal on health care. You were for a single-payer system, a Canadian-style system. Why were you for that then and why aren’t you for it now?
TRUMP: As far as single payer, it works in Canada. It works incredibly well in Scotland. It could have worked in a different age, which is the age you’re talking about here.
What I’d like to see is a private system without the artificial lines around every state. I have a big company with thousands and thousands of employees. And if I’m negotiating in New York or in New Jersey or in California, I have like one bidder. Nobody can bid.
You know why?
Because the insurance companies are making a fortune because they have control of the politicians, of course, with the exception of the politicians on this stage. (uneasy laughter) But they have total control of the politicians. They’re making a fortune.
Get rid of the artificial lines and you will have…yourself great plans…
BAIER: Mr. Trump, it’s not just your past support for single-payer health care. You’ve also supported a host of other liberal policies….You’ve also donated to several Democratic candidates, Hillary Clinton included, and Nancy Pelosi. You explained away those donations saying you did that to get business-related favors. And you said recently, quote, “When you give, they do whatever the hell you want them to do.”
TRUMP: You’d better believe it.
BAIER: — they do?
TRUMP: If I ask them, if I need them, you know, most of the people on this stage I’ve given to, just so you understand, a lot of money.
TRUMP: I will tell you that our system is broken. I gave to many people, before this, before two months ago, I was a businessman. I give to everybody. When they call, I give. And do you know what? When I need something from them two years later, three years later, I call them, they are there for me. And that’s a broken system.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What did you get from Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi?
TRUMP: Well, I’ll tell you what, with Hillary Clinton, I said be at my wedding and she came to my wedding. You know why?
She didn’t have a choice because I gave. I gave to a foundation that, frankly, that foundation is supposed to do good. I didn’t know her money would be used on private jets going all over the world. It was.
BAIER: Hold on…..We’re going to — we’re going to move on.” (Transcript: Read the Full Text of the Primetime Republican Debate, Time)
There it is, two glorious minutes of pure, unalloyed truth on national television. How often does that happen?
How often does a fatcat billionaire-insider appear on TV and announce that the whole system is a big-fat scam run by crooks and patsies?
trumpdebate
Never, that’s when. But that’s what Trump did last night. And that’s why the clatter of ruthless miscreants who run the system behind the smokescreen of fake politicians are sharpening their knives right now before Manhattan’s rogue elephant does even more damage to their precious system.
Just think about what the man said. He not only explained that the whole system is rigged (Baier: “And when you give, they do whatever the hell you want them to do.”…TRUMP: “You’d better believe it.”), he also said that the politicians will do whatever they’re told to do. (TRUMP: Well, …with Hillary Clinton, I said be at my wedding and she came to my wedding. You know why? She didn’t have a choice because I gave.”)
Doesn’t that confirm your darkest suspicions about the way the system really works, that money talks and that elections are just a way to get the sheeple to rubber-stamp a corrupt, fraudulent system?
Of course, it does.
So, let’s summarize: Moneybags capitalist loudmouth explains to 80 million dumbfounded Americans watching prime time TV, that the system is a total fraud, that the big money runs everything, and that even he thinks the system is broken.
How do you beat that? Seriously, my wife and I were laughing and high-fiving and like we just won the lottery.
Thanks for that, Don. We owe you one.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/08/07/trumps-triumph-billionaire-blowhard-exposes-fake-political-system/
Neuro
8th August 2015, 11:23 AM
How do you buy a guy whose net worth is 4.1+ billion dollars?
The only reason his net worth is $4.1 Billion or so is that he was bought already.
Ares
8th August 2015, 11:47 AM
The only reason his net worth is $4.1 Billion or so is that he was bought already.
maybe, maybe not.
http://aattp.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/3-30-2014-8-46-47-AM.png
http://www.imusenvironmentalhealth.org/assets/38/7/trump.jpeg
https://debunkingdenialism.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/trump23.png?w=630
http://www.intergalacticvault.com/wp-content/uploads/donald-trump-autism.jpg
Heisenberg
8th August 2015, 11:54 AM
Does anyone stop to think how corrupt the republican party must be, has shown themselves to be?
The democrap party would never attack their own, especially their front runner by a huge margin.
Their goal is to keep the party in power and it doesn't matter who it is.
Look at Hillary with all her baggage and criminal history. You can't find a liberal democrap anywhere that will speak against her. Their party praises crime, corruption, sodomy and lies...they are considered attributes.
Now look at the corrupt republican party and the republican Fox news.
They had someone that was/is a clear choice of the people, someone that could put the party back in power. Instead of helping Trump shape his campaign by having him on their show to discuss his deficiencies to make him a better candidate, they chose to attack their own party front runner (by a huge margin) with vicious character assassinations and petty name calling. One would think the most important thing is for the party to take back the power in government.
The republicans started this war with Trump with the cheap name calling, words like baffoon and clown, or jokes about his hair...he only responded to his party members with stronger counter attacks.
It didn't have to be this way. You don't see Fox republicans attack Carly about her terrible track record and snooty face, or call Rubio 'Dumbo ears' and his inexperience, or Bush for marrying a women that looks like his midget house maid and his failure president brother. They didn't even attack the fat guy Christy and his failed NJ state.
So why did this war with Trump happen? Could it be that Fox news and the people that represent the republican party, are bought and paid for by their Jewish owners, the Jewish bankers. That they were told to take Trump out, because he is not the choice they bought and paid for?
It should be obvious to anyone, that is why.
I personally don't mind how crude Trump's insults are to his own so called party members. Like Trump, I'm one that doesn't believe in tit for tat fighting.
Furthermore, I hope Trump does end up running third party, because I know he will not be allowed to be the nominee.
Republicans don't deserve to be in power anymore then the democraps.
The republican party is bought and paid for and is corrupt to it's core.
Trump's style is like this, (Magan Kelly is the man at the bar and Nicky is Trump)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEbpXnJGEq4&feature=youtu.be
In that movie DeNiro was portrayed as the sensible numbers guy jew while pesci was the unpredictable nutball cheap burglar goy
Cebu_4_2
8th August 2015, 12:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=313&v=up8hbWjYI34
If you've done blow or know successful people that do blow this is exactly how they talk. I don't know if this was really trump or not but assuming it was either he does a LOT of blow or has some strange wiring in his head to be like this. I like the suttle 'excuse me' whenever he wants to r
amble on until he is done.
Neuro
8th August 2015, 12:05 PM
maybe, maybe not.
http://aattp.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/3-30-2014-8-46-47-AM.png
http://www.imusenvironmentalhealth.org/assets/38/7/trump.jpeg
https://debunkingdenialism.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/trump23.png?w=630
http://www.intergalacticvault.com/wp-content/uploads/donald-trump-autism.jpg
Sure a little poison is better than a lot. Just need to figure out what the autism threshold is and stay just below it.
He is controlled opposition, as such he knows he will never be president, but he gets well payed to play the roll.
Remember birthcertificategate? Very loud until Obama produced his very obviously photoshopped fake birthcertificate, then the Great Trump was silent like a stone. He even let Obama publicly mock him. He just needed to say that it was fake. He became the leader of the "birthers", due to his public persona, and then he just abandoned them when it really mattered. And the air went out of the movement. Trump did more than any living person in deflating it. Obama is still president, no? And there is no doubt his birth certificate is fake.
Trump is controlled opposition.
Ares
8th August 2015, 12:22 PM
Trump is controlled opposition.
I'm seeing the Republican party and fox news pull the same bullshit they pulled on Ron Paul. Controlled or not, I'm enjoying the Republican party in-fighting.
EE_
8th August 2015, 01:33 PM
I'm seeing the Republican party and fox news pull the same bullshit they pulled on Ron Paul. Controlled or not, I'm enjoying the Republican party in-fighting.
This is getting me upset. They are coming at Trump from all sides.
They are going to take out Trump and push Bush down our throats. I knew it all along.
If you want to vote for a republican, vote for Ben Carson.
They always had it covered and they knew it. Just like the economic crash, the banks, their cronies and precious metals. They never lost control, they've always had us.
They will have their New World Order, just like H Bush said.
My only hope at this point is Trump running third party and handing it to Hillary. Maybe we can at least get a revolution out of her in office.
Everyone needs to be very vocal where ever you go, against Bush.
Jewboo
8th August 2015, 03:07 PM
They always had it covered and they knew it. Just like the economic crash, the banks, their cronies and precious metals. They never lost control, they've always had us.
http://dealbreaker.com/uploads/2014/05/icahn1.jpg
Trump's choice for Treasury Secretary
Carl Icahn was raised in the Far Rockaway, Queens (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_Rockaway,_Queens) section of New York City (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City), where he attended Far Rockaway High School (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_Rockaway_High_School).[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Icahn#cite_note-icahnreport1-2) His family was of Jewish descent.[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Icahn#cite_note-3)[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Icahn#cite_note-4) His father was a "dogmatic atheist"[5] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Icahn#cite_note-5) and a frustrated opera singer who settled on being a cantor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantor_in_Reform_Judaism), before becoming a substitute teacher. His mother also worked as a schoolteacher.[6] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Icahn#cite_note-6) Carl graduated from Princeton University (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princeton_University) with a Bachelor of Arts degree (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachelor_of_Arts) in philosophy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy) in 1957 and then joined New York University School of Medicine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_University_School_of_Medicine), but he dropped out after two years to join the army.[7] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Icahn#cite_note-7)[8] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Icahn#cite_note-8)[9] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Icahn#cite_note-9)
Icahn began his career on Wall Street (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wall_Street) as a stockbroker in 1961 and in 1968, he formed Icahn & Co., a securities firm that focused on risk arbitrage (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_arbitrage) and options trading (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Option_%28finance%29).[citation needed (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)] In 1978, he began taking controlling positions in individual companies.[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Icahn#cite_note-icahnreport1-2) He has taken substantial or controlling positions in various corporations including RJR Nabisco (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RJR_Nabisco), TWA (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans_World_Airlines), Texaco (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texaco), Phillips Petroleum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillips_Petroleum), Western Union (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Union), Gulf & Western (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf%2BWestern), Viacom (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viacom), Uniroyal (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Rubber_Company), Dan River (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_River), Marshall Field's (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Field%27s), E-II (Culligan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culligan) and Samsonite (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsonite)), American Can (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Can), USX (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Steel), Marvel Comics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_Comics), Revlon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revlon), Imclone (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ImClone_Systems), Federal-Mogul (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal-Mogul), Fairmont Hotels (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairmont_Hotels_and_Resorts), Blockbuster (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockbuster_LLC), Kerr-McGee (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerr-McGee), Time Warner (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Warner), Netflix (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netflix), Motorola (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola), and Herbalife (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbalife).
Icahn (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icahn_Enterprises) developed a reputation as a ruthless "corporate raider (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_raider)" after his hostile takeover (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostile_takeover) of TWA (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans_World_Airlines) in 1985.[10] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Icahn#cite_note-IcahnTWA-10) The result of that takeover was Icahn systematically selling TWA's assets to repay the debt he used to purchase the company, which was described as asset stripping (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asset_stripping). In 1988, Icahn took TWA private, gaining a personal profit of $469 million, and leaving TWA with a debt of $540 million. In 1991, Icahn sold TWA's prized London routes to American Airlines for $445 million.[11]
:rolleyes:
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Icahn#cite_note-11)
EE_
8th August 2015, 03:24 PM
http://dealbreaker.com/uploads/2014/05/icahn1.jpg
Trump's choice for Treasury Secretary
Yes, he's the spawn of Satan and if it isn't this Jew watching over the president, it will be any number of other Jews. It's their election ya know.
Cebu_4_2
8th August 2015, 04:33 PM
Billionaire Carl Icahn has a message for Donald Trump: "No thanks."
Trump, who kicked off his 2016 presidential bid this week, thinks the U.S. economy need fixing. He says he's the man for the job, especially if he had a Treasury Secretary like hedge fund manager Carl Icahn by his side.
"I'd love to bring my friend Carl Icahn," Trump said Thursday on MSNBC's "Morning Joe." Trump also mentioned private equity titan Henry Kravis and former GE (GE (http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=GE&source=story_quote_link)) CEO Jack Welch as top Treasury Secretary candidates.
Unfortunately for Trump, it only took 24 hours for Icahn to say no. In a blog post (http://www.shareholderssquaretable.com/comments-donald-trump-president/)Friday morning, Icahn expressed his surprise at Trump's comments and politely declined before Trump could say "You're fired!"
(http://money.cnn.com/2015/06/18/news/economy/rand-paul-flat-tax/?iid=EL)
Icahn likes his sleep: "I was extremely surprised to learn that Donald was running for president and even more surprised that he stated he would make me Secretary of Treasury," wrote Icahn.
Reason No.1 why Icahn is unfit for the Treasury: he doesn't wake up early enough. Icahn, 79, would rather kick it in the mornings than do the Washington D.C. grind every day.
"I am flattered but do not get up early enough in the morning to accept this opportunity," Icahn said.
But there is one thing Icahn agrees fully with Trump on: there's a "a big fat bubble coming up" in the market. Icahn says that years of near zero interest rates from the Federal Reserve have inflated asset prices.
"I personally believe we are sailing in dangerous unchartered waters. I can only hope we get to shore safely," Icahn said, praising Trump for speaking out about the issue on the campaign trail.
Cebu_4_2
8th August 2015, 04:35 PM
Billionaire Carl Icahn wants to be Trump's Treasury Secretary after all
Score another point for Donald Trump.
Hedge fund manager Carl Icahn was so impressed with Trump's debate performance Thursday night that he's ready to be part of President Trump's cabinet.
"After last night's debate I decided to accept @realDonaldTrump offer for Secretary of Treasury," Icahn tweeted (https://twitter.com/Carl_C_Icahn/status/629731049686364160) Friday afternoon.
It's a major turnaround for Trump. Only a few weeks ago, Icahn, a 79-year-old billionaire famous for pressuring companies to restructure, told Trump "no thanks (http://money.cnn.com/2015/06/19/investing/donald-trump-carl-icahn-treasury-secretary/?iid=EL)" to the offer to be Treasury Secretary.
"I was extremely surprised to learn that Donald was running for president and even more surprised that he stated he would make me Secretary of Treasury," wrote Icahn in a June 19 blog post (http://www.shareholderssquaretable.com/comments-donald-trump-president/).
But since then, Trump's "surprise" candidacy has picked up momentum. He's surging in the polls, and he was by far the most talked about candidate at the debate.
Trump has yet to lay out an economic plan (http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/28/news/economy/donald-trump-polls-taxes-wages/?iid=EL), but he's stressed his business success and ability to create jobs. In the first debate, he claimed he could "straighten out (http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/07/news/economy/republican-debate-economic-ideas/index.html?iid=EL)" the national debt.
Trump originally suggested that Icahn would make a good Treasury Secretary in an appearance on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" in June. One of the show's hosts asked Trump who he might pick to help guide the nation's budget and economy.
"I'd love to bring my friend Carl Icahn," Trump said on the show. Trump also mentioned private equity titan Henry Kravis and former GE (GE (http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=GE&source=story_quote_link)) CEO Jack Welch as top Treasury Secretary candidates.
Trump followed that up this week by saying Icahn would be the right man to negotiate with China (https://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/trump-id-have-carl-icahn-deal-china_1004973.html) and Japan.
But while Trump's star may be rising, Icahn's funds are not. The stock of Icahn Enterprises (IEP (http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=IEP&source=story_quote_link)) is down 17% this year. That comes after a 2014, when Icahn Enterprises shares lost nearly 30% (http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=IEP).
EE_
8th August 2015, 06:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io6B3AfG2HA
Cebu_4_2
8th August 2015, 07:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io6B3AfG2HA
He is trying to monetize his site, these two are rather a new bunch in his videos.
Ares
8th August 2015, 07:38 PM
Interesting facts for Trump on issues.
http://www.ontheissues.org/donald_trump.htm
To be fair, every other candidates is also on that site.
Ares
8th August 2015, 07:41 PM
Megyn Kelly Says Fox News Hosts Have Secret ‘Plan’ if Donald Trump Doesn’t Play by Debate Rules
In preparation for Thursday night’s first Republican presidential debate, the moderators say that when it comes to Donald Trump, they have a plan.
Fox News hosts and debate moderators Megyn Kelly, Bret Baier and Chris Wallace spoke with Politico about the preparation that has gone into the debate that will feature 10 Republican presidential candidates — the most to ever appear in a primary debate. But among the vast number of candidates hoping to shine Thursday, one is particularly unpredictable.
Trump has said he is “not looking to attack” his opponents during the debate and would like to “just discuss the issues,” but in the event that he doesn’t follow the rules or refuses to stop talking, Kelly says they’ve got it covered.
“We have a plan, but we’re not going to share it with you,” Kelly told Politico.
Baier also assured Politico that Trump will be treated exactly the same as any other candidate.
“Everybody is going to know all the rules going in; there is going to be a sound at the end of their time — it won’t be a pleasant sound,” Baier said.
“Are we thinking about different scenarios? Sure,” he said. “Our job is to make sure everybody plays by the rules.”
The debate will air at 9 p.m. Thursday on Fox News.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/08/05/megyn-kelly-says-fox-news-hosts-have-secret-plan-if-donald-trump-doesnt-play-by-debate-rules/
Ares
8th August 2015, 07:45 PM
Now we know why Fox was so hostile to Trump. They are the 9th largest donor to Hillary Clinton.
If you were wondering why Brett Baier and Megan Kelly did all they could to kneecap Trump last night, maybe this news will help to explain it.
"According to Federal Election Commission and Center for Responsive Politics data, 21st Century Fox News Corp. has donated more than $3 million to Clinton family accounts. Overall, this lands Fox as the Clinton family's 9th largest donor over the course of the family's political involvement."
Newsweb
$25,100,000*
University of California
$1,212,245
Slim Fast
$6,008,430
Microsoft Corp.
$814,645
American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees
$5,350,000
Google Inc.
$801,770
Coca-Cola Company
$5,250,001
U.S. Government
$728,647
Goldman Sachs
$4,960,000
Harvard University
$668,368
Citigroup
$3,876,000
Kaiser Permanente
$588,386
Service Employees International Union
$3,832,867
Stanford University
$512,356
Communications Workers of America
$3,662,175
Deloitte LLP
$456,975
21st Century Fox / News Corp
$3,002,926
Columbia University
$455,309
Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers
$2,658,537
Time Warner
$442,271
Loral Space & Communications
$2,606,501
U.S. Dept of State
$417,629
Walt Disney Co.
$2,459,345
DLA Piper
$401,890
Dreamworks SKG
$2,422,915
Sidley Austin LLP
$400,883
Time Warner
$2,365,930
Walt Disney Co.
$369,598
AT&T Inc.
$2,262,722
IBM Corp.
$369,491
United Food & Commercial Workers Union
$2,100,883
University of Chicago
$357,185
National Education Association
$2,041,463
University of Michigan
$339,806
American Federation of Teachers
$2,036,000
Comcast Corp.
$337,628
Cisco Systems
$1,845,000
U.S. Dept of Justice
$334,659
Joseph E Seagram & Sons
$1,747,945
U.S. Dept of Health & Human Services
$309,956
Note: Corporate and union donations include those from companies, foundations and employees.
http://truthinmedia.com/lotfi-fox-news-one-of-hillary-clintons-biggest-donors-for-more-than-two-decades/
EE_
8th August 2015, 08:07 PM
A reminder on how those scumbags operate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8ezPaMJH4Q
BrewTech
8th August 2015, 08:33 PM
I can't believe the people on this forum are actually taking this political theater even the least bit serious.
Anyone here wanna star in Idiocracy 2?
Seriously... wtf are you guys thinking?
Ares
8th August 2015, 08:36 PM
I can't believe the people on this forum are actually taking this political theater even the least bit serious.
Anyone here wanna star in Idiocracy 2?
Seriously... wtf are you guys thinking?
Because I'm hoping that the Republican party actually fractures from this and a new party can form to break up the 2 party monopoly.
Shami-Amourae
8th August 2015, 08:38 PM
A reminder on how those scumbags operate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8ezPaMJH4Q
I noticed everyone has forgotten about Rand Paul. To me I actually believe the Establishment is afraid of him and making sure the public forgets about him.
BrewTech
8th August 2015, 08:40 PM
Because I'm hoping that the Republican party actually fractures from this and a new party can form to break up the 2 party monopoly.
There is no 2 party monopoly.
The owners have already hired their management team.
Your close attention or lack thereof to the process makes not one bit of a fuck of difference.
You are livestock. This "election" shit is nothing but theater... you have no say in the outcome.
Stop embarrassing yourself by pretending that you do.
Please.
EE_
8th August 2015, 08:44 PM
I can't believe the people on this forum are actually taking this political theater even the least bit serious.
Anyone here wanna star in Idiocracy 2?
Seriously... wtf are you guys thinking?
For me it's about getting Bush out. I feel like, if people like me don't say or, do anything, Bush will sail right in.
If I can help turn more people against him it may give them trouble and force them to take plan B
And what if no one voted in polls, would Fox news be able to rig them all.
We may not change the outcome in the election, but we can express our disgust with the Fox news scumbags...hopefully hurt their ratings.
If I ever see Chris Wallace, Bret Baer, or Kelly Megyn in public, I'll throw rotten tomatoes at them.
If we weren't engaged, how could we catch Fox criminally rigging elections?
If no one was engaged, who would be around to flood Fox and Kelly Megyn with hate mail?
Ares
8th August 2015, 08:44 PM
There is no 2 party monopoly.
The owners have already hired their management team.
Your close attention or lack thereof to the process makes not one bit of a fuck of difference.
You are livestock. This "election" shit is nothing but theater... you have no say in the outcome.
Stop embarrassing yourself by pretending that you do.
Please.
Then why bother if you feel all hope is lost? They do not control everything and plans always change. Stop embarrassing yourself please.
BrewTech
8th August 2015, 08:47 PM
Then why bother if you feel all hope is lost? They do not control everything and plans always change. Stop embarrassing yourself please.
They don't control everything, but they do control those who choose to play their game.
Why bother? I don't know, as I DON'T bother.
I'm not embarrassed at all right now, and I intend to stay that way.
Ares
8th August 2015, 08:48 PM
They don't control everything, but they do control those who choose to play their game.
I'm not embarrassed at all right now, and I intend to stay that way.
Never give them more power than they think they have.
BrewTech
8th August 2015, 08:49 PM
Never give them more power than they think they have.
theatrics seriously.
Yet that's exactly what I see you doing, by taking their
(not fixing the formatting... fuck it.)
EE_
8th August 2015, 09:03 PM
They don't control everything, but they do control those who choose to play their game.
Why bother? I don't know, as I DON'T bother.
I'm not embarrassed at all right now, and I intend to stay that way.
So you do admit there is a game being played here?
Most people are competitive by nature and want to be in the game, engaged. We can have a part in this game by swaying public opinion, catching and exposing Fox news scumbags, voting in polls, etc.
Many people chose to watch a sports, a bunch of black guys kicking/bouncing a ball around, or a bunch of foreigners hitting a ball into a field, where the outcome of the game means nothing in your life.
These people running the election are affecting your life and you have a say.
BrewTech
8th August 2015, 09:14 PM
So you do admit there is a game being played here?
Most people are competitive by nature and want to be in the game, engaged. We can have a part in this game by swaying public opinion, catching and exposing Fox news scumbags, voting in polls, etc.
Many people chose to watch a sports, a bunch of black guys kicking/bouncing a ball around, or a bunch of foreigners hitting a ball into a field, where the outcome of the game means nothing in your life.
These people running the election are affecting your life and you have a say.
We can have a part in this game by swaying public opinion
No, you don't have a say, anymore than the cow or sheep on a farm has a "say".
Does the owner of a profitable enterprise solicit the opinion of his employees before he makes a major management hiring decision?
I think he would, if he thought that his profits would increase if his employees thought they were in control of their own destiny, even if they weren't.
Hence, elections, and all the ridiculous marketing that accompanies them.
EE_
8th August 2015, 09:29 PM
No, you don't have a say, anymore than the cow or sheep on a farm has a "say".
Tell that to the 100's of thousands of people sending fox news and Kelly Megyn hate mail...or voting in polls that show we've had it with them.
Tell that to the people that are reaching their wits end with politicians, that they are disgusted with them and are getting angry.
How are we supposed to get the revolution started if everyone just sits back in defeat?
BrewTech
8th August 2015, 09:40 PM
Tell that to the 100's of thousands of people sending fox news and Kelly Megyn hate mail...or voting in polls that show we've had it with them.
Tell that to the people that are reaching their wits end with politicians, that they are disgusted with them and are getting angry.
How are we supposed to get the revolution started if everyone just sits back in defeat?
I'm not saying "sit back in defeat". But "voting in polls" and "sending emails" is not effective. They can be ignored... and they are, because those mechanisms are supplied to you to diffuse your understandable anger at the way you are being treated as a human being.
EE_
8th August 2015, 09:49 PM
I'm not saying "sit back in defeat". But "voting in polls" and "sending emails" is not effective. They can be ignored... and they are, because those mechanisms are supplied to you to diffuse your understandable anger at the way you are being treated as a human being.
Being vocal in all those ways are not being ignored. They are being seen, heard and read everywhere. I know of a lot more people today that are angry enough they want a revolution.
They didn't get this angry by watching black guys kicking a football around. They got that angry by being engaged.
Hitch
8th August 2015, 10:19 PM
I've got to agree with Brewtech. They know who will win the election already. Our votes do not count, the whole game is rigged, and the theatrics are there to keep us distracted while the agenda goes on in the background.
It might as well be the Jerry Springer show, because it's the same damn thing.
It's best to focus on what we can control in our lives, such as staying debt free, become less dependent on the system, and preparing for the day they push the 'game over' button. Unplug your TV, and free your mind!
EE_
8th August 2015, 10:33 PM
Realistically, Trump is probably done. Kelly Megyn was put up to the hit and she got him. Nothing left now but to watch the fallout and check back in a year and a half to see the 3rd Bush as president.
EE_
8th August 2015, 10:40 PM
I've got to agree with Brewtech.
It's best to focus on what we can control in our lives, such as staying debt free, become less dependent on the system, and preparing for the day they push the 'game over' button. Unplug your TV, and free your mind!
It cool guys like you and I can sit back and say fuck all you other guys with kids and their future generations. We don't have kids!
Fuck the kids, I'm unplugging.
Jewboo
8th August 2015, 10:43 PM
How are we supposed to get the revolution started if everyone just sits back in defeat?
You sucking Trump's dick throughout this thread isn't helping.
Let's revisit this "voting" nonsense in a year before the actual so-called election.
http://www.smiley-lol.com/smiley/quotidien/voter.gif <--- Cucks
Ares
8th August 2015, 10:54 PM
You sucking Trump's dick throughout this thread isn't helping.
Let's revisit this "voting" nonsense in a year before the actual so-called election.
http://www.smiley-lol.com/smiley/quotidien/voter.gif <--- Cucks
He's riling people up, that's certain. Do I believe he'll get elected? Nope, they won't let it happen, they'll kill him before letting him take hold of power. He's a zionist, an Israeli firster, and quite honestly from a history perspective an incredibly dangerous individual. He's developing a cult of personality and whenever that happens on a national stage in history there are always consequences.
The most I'm hoping for is him fracturing the political body gripping this country. Instead I get idiots on here telling me I'm embarrassing myself. Anyone who thinks that can go find a corner and go fuck themselves. I'm not asleep and I see the game for what it is.
Hitch
8th August 2015, 10:58 PM
It cool guys like you and I can sit back and say fuck all you other guys with kids and their future generations. We don't have kids!
Fuck the kids, I'm unplugging.
It's not about that, it's about the fact that there's nothing we can do about it. If there's nothing I can do, I'm not going to worry. I will focus my energy elsewhere. For the folks who have kids, teach those kids to be self sufficient and not follow what the media stuffs down their throat.
Whatever puppet they want will be seated in the white house, voting and cheering for theater is a joke.
Like you said, Hillary might be our best bet. I think I will vote for her....because if she wins, we might just get a revolution that will actually change things.
In fact, we should all vote for the worst possible candidate. Vote for who you hate and think will completely destroy our already ruined country.
The only way now is to start over, from scratch. That takes an epic collapse of the system. The sooner that happens, the better for us all. I hope I'm young enough to be a part of the rebuilding.
Santa
8th August 2015, 10:59 PM
Stand up and be heard. Roar and the crowd will roar with you.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xpvxz1_rock-and-john-cena-match-was-fixed-and-fake-proof-hear-in-high-volume-at-0-26-http-wweinhd-com_sport
Ares
8th August 2015, 11:02 PM
For the folks who have kids, teach those kids to be self sufficient and not follow what the media stuffs down their throat.
Easier said than done when even private school curriculum teaches dependency.
Neuro
8th August 2015, 11:03 PM
Trump is Hillarys best chance. Just like Perrot was Bills. Some elites like Bush some like Clinton, those who like Clinton co-opted Trump to do her campaign. No matter if he becomes the repug nominee or third party runner Hildebeast will become queen Jezebel president. Jebs turn will be 4-8 years later, why do you care? there is absolutely no difference to you.
Enjoy the theater...:)
Hitch
8th August 2015, 11:10 PM
Easier said than done when even private school curriculum teaches dependency.
Maybe I'm old school, but I listened to my parents and trusted them a lot more than I did what they taught in school. Private school does teach dependency, but parents should teach wisdom. With that, a kid can see for himself that dependency and make good choices for himself.
Parents just need to be a big part of a kid's life. If they are involved and lead them the right direction, they will be fine.
Ares
8th August 2015, 11:13 PM
Maybe I'm old school, but I listened to my parents and trusted them a lot more than I did what they taught in school. Private school does teach dependency, but parents should teach wisdom. With that, a kid can see for himself that dependency and make good choices for himself.
Parents just need to be a big part of a kid's life. If they are involved and lead them the right direction, they will be fine.
Very true, and is a plan I have in place and will be following.
EE_
9th August 2015, 05:44 AM
Now that I'm unplugging from the whole election charade, I'll just go back to calling out the core problem, the Jews.
Animus for the Jews has been growing throughout the world over the past few years. It has done so, by people speaking out and calling out their crimes and their financial power.
This is one example how people being engaged has helped bring them out of the darkness.
Who knows, maybe one day when society is no longer fit to live in, people will no longer care about changing things and will start building big ovens to stuff the people in that control the money, the media, the internet, the politicians, and head the corporations. The people that claim to be Jews.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVNR9LOEGbk
Shami-Amourae
9th August 2015, 06:43 AM
You sucking Trump's dick throughout this thread isn't helping.
Let's revisit this "voting" nonsense in a year before the actual so-called election.
http://www.smiley-lol.com/smiley/quotidien/voter.gif <--- Cucks
Trump is mostly a vote against the Establishment. I don't expect anything to actually change. It's more of a fuck you vote to the Establishment to many of us.
Related:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_X9gB8eiac
Jewboo
9th August 2015, 08:55 AM
Now that I'm unplugging from the whole election charade, I'll just go back to calling out the core problem, the Jews.
Animus for the Jews has been growing throughout the world over the past few years. It has done so, by people speaking out and calling out their crimes and their financial power.
This is one example how people being engaged has helped bring them out of the darkness.
Who knows, maybe one day when society is no longer fit to live in, people will no longer care about changing things and will start building big ovens to stuff the people in that control the money, the media, the internet, the politicians, and head the corporations. The people that claim to be Jews.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVNR9LOEGbk
https://i.imgur.com/wLsoQiB.gif
This is the EE we all remember and admired...lol.
;D
BrewTech
9th August 2015, 08:59 AM
It cool guys like you and I can sit back and say fuck all you other guys with kids and their future generations. We don't have kids!
Fuck the kids, I'm unplugging.
What makes you think I don't have kids?
EE_
9th August 2015, 09:21 AM
What makes you think I don't have kids?
I was referring to Mr. hitch and being sarcastic with my statement. I know you have kids and I'm more amazed of parents (not you) that don't take an active roll in their children's future, then you are of people that fight a losing battle.
I won't sit back and unplug from the evil that is taking over our world! I will out it and fight it where ever I see it. I care not if it has an effect or not.
But it just might...
Furthermore, I happen to like kids and care about our kids future more then anyone might know.
I have righted wrongs before in my life, where people have screwed others over. I have to believe I can make a difference, because I know I have done it before.
EE_
9th August 2015, 09:59 AM
https://i.imgur.com/wLsoQiB.gif
This is the EE we all remember and admired...lol.
;D
I know there are many here that won't speak against the people that call themselves Jews.
Let me tell you, I have spent a fair amount of time researching who the people are that are pushing the ills we have in society.
The people that are pushing the gay agenda, trying to take our guns, pushing perversion on the children, or financial scams, etc...I look up the people, their history, bios and families that are behind and at the top of these agendas/scams...I've found an overwhelming majority are liberal atheist people that call themselves Jews. Anyone can see it that cares to look.
mick silver
9th August 2015, 10:03 AM
but but ee we have to help are buddy that's what 700 club keeps telling us
Serpo
10th August 2015, 05:13 AM
The Assault On Donald Trump Shows That Our 2 Party System Is Really A 1 Party System
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/the-assault-on-donald-trump-shows-that-our-2-party-system-is-really-a-1-party-system
Serpo
10th August 2015, 05:17 AM
I was referring to Mr. hitch and being sarcastic with my statement. I know you have kids and I'm more amazed of parents (not you) that don't take an active roll in their children's future, then you are of people that fight a losing battle.
I won't sit back and unplug from the evil that is taking over our world! I will out it and fight it where ever I see it. I care not if it has an effect or not.
But it just might...
Furthermore, I happen to like kids and care about our kids future more then anyone might know.
I have righted wrongs before in my life, where people have screwed others over. I have to believe I can make a difference, because I know I have done it before.
Gee and I thought it was the Rothschild Zionists using the Jews ............
monty
10th August 2015, 11:53 AM
She's got dirt too.
http://shoebat.com/2015/08/08/an-old-recording-of-megyn-kelly-talking-about-penises-breasts-and-how-she-has-sex-proves-trump-was-right-kelly-is-absolute-trash/
An Old Recording Of Megyn Kelly Talking About Penises, Breasts, And How She Has Sex, Proves Trump Was Right Kelly Is Absolute Trash
by Ted (http://shoebat.com/author/ted/) on August 8, 2015 in Featured (http://shoebat.com/category/featured-articles/), General (http://shoebat.com/category/announcement/)
By Theodore Shoebat and Walid Shoebat
Donald Trump was disinvited (http://www.wdsu.com/politics/donald-trump-remark-on-megyn-kelly-backfires/34609094) from a prime speaking role to an important gathering of conservative activists on Friday for his criticism of Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly after a combustible debate performance. As for the vacant spot at the Red State gathering, Red State chief Erick Erickson has invited Kelly to replace Trump (http://www.wdsu.com/politics/donald-trump-remark-on-megyn-kelly-backfires/34609094). Kelly replacing Trump was a fair judgment in Erickson’s view for saying “blood coming out of her … whatever”. The comment stirred up a hornets nest. Well, Shoebat.com found a five year old interview of Meghan Kelly when she was climbing up the ladder not minding to get on the Howard Stern Show to gain fame while allowing Stern to discuss with her every sort of smut including her private sex live which is supposed to be sacred. She laughs and is okay with Stern discussing penises, breasts, in a very trashy nonchalant way. Listener be advised:
I can't embed the Howard Stern show, it is here:
http://clashdaily.com/2015/08/shes-got-dirt-too-heres-audio-of-megyn-kelly-talking-about-penises-breasts/
Stern is a sleaze bucket who utterly despises women. But Kelly claiming that she is for women’s rights, then allows this reprobate to use her in order to further her career as a journalist says that Kelly is the one who owes an apology. Apologize and lets all move on. Stern uses women as an object of ridicule. And what about her husband? What man would allow his daughter or wife to get on some public adult radio and have a sleaze bucket talk sex with them? This is not a private matter. Kelly made this public.
Now lets compare this with Trump’s remark:
https://youtu.be/GzUZX7f2YDw
Donald Trump was right, Meghan Kelly is a wretch and a vulgar low life. Donald Trump posted on his Twitter that the biggest loser was Meghan Kelly:
Trump’s blood comment could have meant that blood was coming out of her ears, nose … whatever. Even if Trump was saying that Kelly must have been on her menstrual cycle, its a comment men usually use. Let the man who never used such comment cast the first stone.Kelly who found the opportunity to gain ratings on the Howard Stern show which was popular at the time did not object to whatever smut Stern wanted to discuss with her and she did not mind having this utterly disgusting conversation.
Erickson said he had disinvited Trump from the event because of what he described as “demeaning” remarks about Kelly and instead invited the trashy Kelly since she was one of Fox’s highest profile anchors, to attend his conference in Trump’s place. Erickson said in a Facebook statement that in a CNN interview Trump said of Kelly: “You could see there was blood coming out of her eyes. Blood coming out of her wherever.” “His comment was inappropriate,” said Erickson.
The issue is not dirty laundry, but slander and hypocrisy. Now Kelly owes women an apology. Enough said.
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Cebu_4_2
10th August 2015, 11:55 AM
Did anyone find out if Trump said why he quit the last time? I can't find anything but opinion.
Nevermind, I'll post again.
EE_
10th August 2015, 12:01 PM
She's got dirt too.
http://shoebat.com/2015/08/08/an-old-recording-of-megyn-kelly-talking-about-penises-breasts-and-how-she-has-sex-proves-trump-was-right-kelly-is-absolute-trash/
An Old Recording Of Megyn Kelly Talking About Penises, Breasts, And How She Has Sex, Proves Trump Was Right Kelly Is Absolute Trash
by Ted (http://shoebat.com/author/ted/) on August 8, 2015 in Featured (http://shoebat.com/category/featured-articles/), General (http://shoebat.com/category/announcement/)
By Theodore Shoebat and Walid Shoebat
Donald Trump was disinvited (http://www.wdsu.com/politics/donald-trump-remark-on-megyn-kelly-backfires/34609094) from a prime speaking role to an important gathering of conservative activists on Friday for his criticism of Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly after a combustible debate performance. As for the vacant spot at the Red State gathering, Red State chief Erick Erickson has invited Kelly to replace Trump (http://www.wdsu.com/politics/donald-trump-remark-on-megyn-kelly-backfires/34609094). Kelly replacing Trump was a fair judgment in Erickson’s view for saying “blood coming out of her … whatever”. The comment stirred up a hornets nest. Well, Shoebat.com found a five year old interview of Meghan Kelly when she was climbing up the ladder not minding to get on the Howard Stern Show to gain fame while allowing Stern to discuss with her every sort of smut including her private sex live which is supposed to be sacred. She laughs and is okay with Stern discussing penises, breasts, in a very trashy nonchalant way. Listener be advised:
I can't embed the Howard Stern show, it is here:
http://clashdaily.com/2015/08/shes-got-dirt-too-heres-audio-of-megyn-kelly-talking-about-penises-breasts/
Stern is a sleaze bucket who utterly despises women. But Kelly claiming that she is for women’s rights, then allows this reprobate to use her in order to further her career as a journalist says that Kelly is the one who owes an apology. Apologize and lets all move on. Stern uses women as an object of ridicule. And what about her husband? What man would allow his daughter or wife to get on some public adult radio and have a sleaze bucket talk sex with them? This is not a private matter. Kelly made this public.
Now lets compare this with Trump’s remark:
https://youtu.be/GzUZX7f2YDw
Donald Trump was right, Meghan Kelly is a wretch and a vulgar low life. Donald Trump posted on his Twitter that the biggest loser was Meghan Kelly:
Trump’s blood comment could have meant that blood was coming out of her ears, nose … whatever. Even if Trump was saying that Kelly must have been on her menstrual cycle, its a comment men usually use. Let the man who never used such comment cast the first stone.Kelly who found the opportunity to gain ratings on the Howard Stern show which was popular at the time did not object to whatever smut Stern wanted to discuss with her and she did not mind having this utterly disgusting conversation.
Erickson said he had disinvited Trump from the event because of what he described as “demeaning” remarks about Kelly and instead invited the trashy Kelly since she was one of Fox’s highest profile anchors, to attend his conference in Trump’s place. Erickson said in a Facebook statement that in a CNN interview Trump said of Kelly: “You could see there was blood coming out of her eyes. Blood coming out of her wherever.” “His comment was inappropriate,” said Erickson.
The issue is not dirty laundry, but slander and hypocrisy. Now Kelly owes women an apology. Enough said.
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She's not the pure little angel they make her out to be...
She also played "Fuck, Marry and Kill" on Stern's show. She said she'd fuck Bill O'Reilly, marry Sean Hannity and kill Glen Beck
Let's not forget her saying Santa Clause can only be white and Jesus is white too...so she's a racist on top of being a skank.
Cebu_4_2
10th August 2015, 12:04 PM
This decision does not come easily or without regret; especially when my potential candidacy continues to be validated by ranking at the top of the Republican contenders in polls across the country. I maintain the strong conviction that if I were to run, I would be able to win the primary and ultimately, the general election. I have spent the past several months unofficially campaigning and recognize that running for public office cannot be done half heartedly. Ultimately, however, business is my greatest passion and I am not ready to leave the private sector."
Looks like MSM hit him pretty hard:
Back in April 2011, the White House released the document (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/27/obama-birth-certificate-r_n_854248.html), showing that Obama was born on Aug. 4, 1961 in Honolulu's Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital.
"I know that there is going to be a segment of people for which no matter what we put out, this issue will not be put to rest," Obama said. "But I am speaking for the vast majority of the American people as well as for the press. We do not have time for this kind of silliness. We have better stuff to do. I have got better stuff to do. We have got big problems to solve."
By May 29, 2012, Trump said in a CNBC phone interview (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/29/donald-trump-romney-obama-birther_n_1553074.html) that the document was not enough, and that "nothing has changed my mind." In a CNN interview on the same day, the "Celebrity Apprentice" host continued to press the issue, prompting Wolf Blitzer to say Trump (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/29/wolf-blitzer-donald-trump-ridiculous_n_1553916.html)was "beginning to sound a little ridiculous."
White House Press Secretary Jay Carney (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/30/jay-carney-donald-trump-birther-comments_n_1556966.html) slammed Trump's efforts the following day, calling it a "ridiculous distraction" from real issues.
Now they know he will sue just for fun. I can see how the last time ended now.
Serpo
10th August 2015, 05:26 PM
Trump Just Announced His Plan For ISIS – And It Includes Something Highly Controversial
His plan would call for the deployment of ground troops.
http://www.westernjournalism.com/trump-just-announced-his-plan-for-isis-and-it-includes-something-highly-controversial/
Cebu_4_2
10th August 2015, 05:54 PM
Political wrath, he wants to stay in the headlines. I think this time he might go for the win rather than get blindsighted into ridicule like the Birth certificate ordeal. He is playing pretty clean this time. Either way I would rather see him fuck this country up rather than Bush/Clitton.
EE_
10th August 2015, 06:41 PM
Trump Just Announced His Plan For ISIS – And It Includes Something Highly Controversial
Why is it controversial compared to what the US government has been doing.
His plan would call for the deployment of ground troops.
http://www.westernjournalism.com/trump-just-announced-his-plan-for-isis-and-it-includes-something-highly-controversial/
Why is it controversial compared to what the US government under Bush and Obama has been doing?
If it's controversial, shouldn't someone say why and not just say that it is?
Serpo
10th August 2015, 06:53 PM
Why is it controversial compared to what the US government under Bush and Obama has been doing?
If it's controversial, shouldn't someone say why and not just say that it is?
Sounds like a joke to me................people that go around chopping peoples heads off.............what does O do............drops them pallet loads of weapons ect.........
send in the troops now..........
Cebu_4_2
10th August 2015, 06:55 PM
Sounds like a joke to me................people that go around chopping peoples heads off.............what does O do............drops them pallet loads of weapons ect.........
send in the troops now..........
Part of the establishment.
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