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Horn
10th August 2015, 07:00 PM
This week the EPA released their plan to make energy prices skyrocket, even as they were dumping three million gallons of highly toxic waste into the Colorado River drainage,They have become a very expensive and extremely destructive agency under Barack Obama, and need to be terminated.
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People kayak in the Animas River near Durango, Colo., Thursday, Aug. 6, 2015, in water colored from a mine waste spill. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency said that a cleanup team was working with heavy equipment Wednesday to secure an entrance to the Gold King Mine. Workers instead released an estimated 1 million gallons of mine waste into Cement Creek, which flows into the Animas River. (Jerry McBride/The Durango Herald via AP) MANDATORY CREDIT
https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2015/08/10/the-epa-is-killing-america/
Dogman
10th August 2015, 07:05 PM
I did a google earth search of the area and found the mines, there were at least 4 mines along the creek that can be seen draining mine water into the creek that flows into that river. And even older map photos (History) show them leaking yellow crap into that creek. That whole area is just ate up with old mine workings.
Here is one of the mines if not the one causing the trouble. This is the worst, but the epa could have opened one of the others that was seeping and it turned into a gusher.
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.8970879,-107.6451845,163m/data=!3m1!1e3
Take a look up and down the creek and you will find other leaking mines draining into the creek.
Serpo
10th August 2015, 07:16 PM
EPA....................Environmental Polluting Agency..............
monty
1st March 2017, 07:50 AM
Hypocracy in government. EPA pollutes the Animus River then imprisons 77 year old Montanan, Joe Robertson, for fire prevention ponds on his private property with state permits.
http://www.americanlandscouncil.org/wotus_overturned_now_pardon_its_victims
WOTUS overturned! Now pardon its victims
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on February 28, 2017
GREAT NEWS!!! Today, President Trump has issued an executive order to "pave the way" to overturn the Obama Administration's "Waters of the US" (WOTUS) rule.
Tragic news :( Montana resident Joe Robertson is currently in federal PRISON for “violating” the same WOTUS rule that is soon to be a non-rule. In an outrageous miscarriage of justice, last year the WOTUS rule was used to incarcerate this disabled, 78-year old Navy veteran.
Joe's “crime”? He created a series of small ponds (http://mtstandard.com/natural-resources/a-drop-in-the-pond-joseph-robertson-shrugs-off-federal/article_cc763370-d510-5d3f-abb2-93cbf9d1fc16.html) near his isolated mountain home which, by the way, is located about 60 miles from the nearest actual “Water of the United States”. The alleged pollution was not established by any evidence at the trial.
Joe didn’t harm the environment, he helped it. Joe didn’t impact a “water of the U.S.” in any way. But that didn’t stop a ridiculously heavy handed EPA and a notorious environmental activist federal judge from using the WOTUS “non-rule” to throw poor old Joe into the clink.
Now, six months into an 18-month sentence to federal prison, in addition to tens of thousands of dollars in fines, Joe continues to suffer from declining health, confusion, and depression. He reportedly had two strokes in his first month of lock up. He was ripped from his VA medical treatment, transferred to numerous prisons over the west, thrown in solitary confinement, stripped of his veteran’s pension, unlawfully deprived of his right to be present when sensitive legal mail from his lawyer was opened, and barred from having visits from family and friends.
President Trump rightly called WOTUS (https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/02/28/remarks-president-trump-signing-waters-united-states-wotus-executive)
one of the worst examples of federal regulation… it has truly run amok, and is one of the rules most strongly opposed by farmers, ranchers and agricultural workers all across our land. It's prohibiting them from being allowed to do what they're supposed to be doing. It's been a disaster.
WOTUS led to numerous Americans being needlessly hassled and persecuted by the federal government. Trump mentioned the case of Andy Johnson, whose case was represented by the Pacific Legal Foundation (https://www.pacificlegal.org/Cases/Case-johnson-1-1494) and successfully overturned:
“In one case in a Wyoming, a rancher was fined $37,000 a day by the EPA for digging a small watering hole for his cattle. His land. These abuses were, and are, why such incredible opposition to this rule from the hundreds of organizations took place in all 50 states.”
On the back of today's Executive Order, Joe - and everyone else persecuted under this rule - deserves an immediate, unconditional federal pardon, and compensation for wrongful imprisonment.
Timeline of Events
In an egregious and horrific misuse of regulatory and judicial power against a private citizen, Joe Robertson found himself charged in May 2015 with two criminal violations of the EPA’s Clean Water Act, for “polluting waters of the United States” and one of “malicious mischief” relating to “injury/depredation of property of the United States”.
Robertson’s alleged crime was violating the Clean Water Act, because he “knowingly discharged and caused to be discharged a pollutant, namely dredged or fill material” into a “water of the United States” without a permit. Yet the said water was a seasonally flowing tributary located miles from the nearest navigable waterway. They also indicted him for damaging “National Forest Service Lands”.
The first trial, in October 2015, resulted in a mistrial as the jury was unable to reach a unanimous verdict. At a second trial in April 2016, Robertson was convicted and is currently serving his prison sentence.
No expert testimony was allowed in Joe’s defense during the trials. The U.S. government prosecutors did utilize their own experts to manufacture the case against Robertson. According to the Justice Department (https://www.justice.gov/usao-mt/pr/basin-man-convicted-clean-water-act-violations-and-destruction-us-property):
One of the central legal issues at trial was whether the waters polluted by Robertson were “waters of the United States” for purposes of the Clean Water Act.The United States introduced evidence and expert testimony from the Army Corps of Engineers and the EPA that the stream and wetlands had a significant nexus to traditional navigable waters, and therefore were “waters of the United States.”
Yet the case put forth by the U.S. government against Robertson seems to have numerous problems. Two highly qualified individuals, Ray Kagel (a former federal regulator) and Susan Kagel (a wetlands biologist), visited Mr. Robertson’s property in April 2016 to ascertain whether the allegations had any merit. Here is the detailed report (https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/americanlandscouncil/pages/1292/attachments/original/1488337543/Kagel-Robertson2016.pdf?1488337543) they prepared (pro bono), and these are a few of their key points:
“Areas such as yours are absent of federally mapped wetlands and absent of federally mapped hydric soils.”
“Kegel Environmental LLC [KE] observed that the pond construction, either within the narrow channel of the intermittent creek or adjacent wetland, did not appear to have required a permit since the work was accomplished via non-regulated excavation.”
“KE observed and photo-documented that the unnamed intermittent creek lacks a continuous surface hydrological connection to a traditionally navigable water of the U.S. It’s KE’s understanding that Justice Scalia, writing for the plurality in the Supreme Court's Rapanosdecision, stipulated that intermittent and ephemeral streams are not 'waters of the United States' and therefore are not-regulated under Section 404 of the Clean Water Act.”
It’s implausible that the discharge of dredged or fill material could have a “significant effect on the physical, chemical, and biological integrity of the nearest TNW” - the Jefferson River, located about 60 miles downstream of Pond #9.
The creation of Ponds #1, #2, and #3, which we understand are located on USFS lands, have actually enhanced the aquatic resources relative to the intermittent channel and adjacent wetlands.
In other words, by any objective standard, Robertson a) was not causing any pollution, and b) the water into which he was disposing of his inert material was not navigable, and therefore not part of the federal waters of the U.S.
Others have pointed out that no stream or creek can be seen on any published map of the region.As written in the Montana Standard (http://mtstandard.com/natural-resources/a-drop-in-the-pond-joseph-robertson-shrugs-off-federal/article_cc763370-d510-5d3f-abb2-93cbf9d1fc16.html), the general area around Robertson’s property is hardly pristine; it has been explored and mined for decades:
The land above Basin has been mined for more than a century, and evidence of such is almost anywhere you look. There are tailings on the shore of Cataract Creek just 100 yards downstream from a stump marking where the unnamed tributary Robertson polluted dives under the road and flows into the creek.
The application of the WOTUS rule to Robertson’s activities seems to be fundamentally unreasonable and unjust, along with a severely disproportionate punishment. That’s why Robertson and anyone else convicted under this reprehensible rule deserve to be pardoned and compensated.
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hoarder
1st March 2017, 07:53 AM
It's the EPA...not who controls it.
monty
1st March 2017, 08:08 AM
I am posting this for anyone not familiar with the Joe Robertson case.
Joseph Robertson was convicted by an environmentalist judge. Another injustice against an American added to the long list of injustices by an out of control government. See Hoarders graphic above ^
Montana Disabled Veteran Convicted Over Stock Pond (https://redoubtnews.com/2016/05/13/montana-disabled-veteran-convicted-pond/)
ROBERTSON COULD BE SENTENCED UP TO 15 YEARS IN PRISON AND A $250,000 FINE.
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Joe Robertson
Montana Veteran Convicted Over Pond
… Here We Go Again!
By Shari Dovale (http://www.redoubtnews.com/?s=Shari+Dovale)
You might remember that Andy Johnson, the rancher from Wyoming, just won his case this week against the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA).
That battle concerned their environmentally friendly stock pond on their private property. The EPA demanded that he remove the pond and threatened him with fines of $37,500 per day if he did not comply. The case was settled this week (http://www.redoubtnews.com/epa/wyoming-rancher-wins-stock-pond-stays/) and the Johnson Family are happy.
However…
He is not the only citizen that the EPA has targeted. More cases are coming to light on the extreme overreach of this organization.
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Joe Robertson and his service dog, Sasha
Disable Navy veteran Joseph Robertson, 77, of Basin, Montana, and his wife, Carri, own about 200 acres of beautiful Montana mountain land. They homestead the White Pine Lode patented mining claim that he owns, and live “green” as Robertson is quick to explain. “I’ve worked over 30 years for mining corporations and I know what contamination is.”
They lease a portion of it to the Helena Veteran’s Support group. They offer camping, hiking and more to veterans and their families. “There is a great veteran support group here,” Robertson tells Redoubt News.
They, also, own a large Freight-liner water tender that they loan to the volunteer fire department, and share with their neighbors. Additionally, they have an outfitted fire truck, including foam, hose reels, etc. that they use with the volunteer fire department.
They love their community and are active in helping, and sharing with, their neighbors.
Due to multiple fires in the area over the past several years, Robertson has maintained and improved his property by building stock ponds for his animals and fire prevention for his and the neighbor properties.
But, he has also scrapped with the government, by way of the Forest Service and the EPA, for years. The harassment by the government began over a decade ago, complaining that he was not allowed to repair the road that leads to his private property. This came to a head in 2013 when they charged this disabled veteran for violation of the Clean Water Act.
The government contends that nine stock ponds affect approximately one-tenth (1/10) of an acre of discharged pollutants into the Jefferson River, nearly 60 miles away.
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Photo courtesy of Carri Robertson
Thebfirst trial was held last year and ended in a hung jury. It would probably have concluded in favor of Mr. Robertson had the federal defender (http://www.fdom.org/) presented all of the evidence. Yet, the defense, Michael Donahoe, refused to call any expert witnesses.
The Director of Veterans Affairs for Senator Steve Daines (https://www.daines.senate.gov/), Denny Lenoir, was in the courtroom during the trial. Donahoe seemed upset when Robertson would consult with Lenoir. “Why are you making this political?” he complained.
Donahoe’s group had paid for, and received, an environmental impact report detailing how Robertson did NOT violate the law, yet he treated it as if it was not accurate. This report outlines the fact that there is no stream from the Robertson pond to any tributary. Donahoe’s response was that the EPA was the expert testimony, and he would rely on their report.
Donahoe (http://www.fdom.org/OurAttorneys.htm) has a good bio with criminal defense. Why would he choose not to use his own expert witness, and report? He chose instead to claim the EPA was the only expert testimony needed in this case.
http://www.redoubtnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/document.jpe (http://www.redoubtnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/kagel_report.pdf)
Report by Kagel Environmental, LLC
Thereis a second, nearly identical report, completed by Kagel Environmental, LLC (http://www.kagelenvironmental.com/), included here. Documented by Ray Kagel, a former federal regulator, he shows that Robertson actually improved the land and could not have contaminated any US waters.
The report outlines that the alleged wetlands “is not waters of the U.S.” and it is virtually impossible for them have a “significant effect on the physical, chemical, and biological integrity of the Jefferson River.”
Kagel spoke with Robertson’s public defender, offering to testify on Robertson’s behalf. Donahoe declined the offer and stated he did not wish to use any expert testimony. Kagel completed the report, pro-bono, for the Robertson’s anyway. Thank you Ray Kagel!
Judge Donald W. Molloy retired in 2011. Molloy was the subject of a complaint letter by Robertson some years ago, so it is surprising that, knowing there is bad blood between them, he came out of retirement specifically to hear this case. However, seeing the way this case was handled, maybe it is not so surprising after all.
A week after the first trial ended in a hung jury, Donahoe asked the Robertsons to travel to his office in Helena. Upon the return to their home, they caught two EPA agents attempting to drain their pond, trying to make a stream flow a mile down the canyon to Cataract Creek. It was a blatant attempt to manufacture evidence to support the government case. The timing does seem suspect, as they do not travel off of their property often. It just so happened that they were called away, by their attorney, during this event.
When this information was brought to the attention of Judge Molloy, the Judge did not see a problem with this manufactured evidence. In fact, this ‘evidence’ was allowed at the second trial. Robertson tells me that even Judge Molloy questioned Donahoe as to why he was not objecting to this evidence being presented. Still, Donahoe did not object.
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Robertson’s water tender, photo courtesy of Carri Robertson
The second trial was completed last month. During the trial, Judge Molloy seemed upset that Robertson wanted his service dog with him. Robertson was required by his attorney to get documentation that authorized him to have the dog, Sasha, in the courtroom.
The second trial ended in a conviction for this 77 year old Navy veteran. He now faces prison and hundreds of thousands in fines. This will amount to life in prison and forfeiture of his property.
“This verdict sends a message that the United States will not stand by and allow streams and wetlands of the United States to be polluted, or National Forest lands to be injured,” said (https://www.justice.gov/usao-mt/pr/basin-man-convicted-clean-water-act-violations-and-destruction-us-property) United States Attorney for the District of Montana Mike Cotter.
“Today’s guilty verdict demonstrates that polluters will be held accountable for their actions.” said (https://www.justice.gov/usao-mt/pr/basin-man-convicted-clean-water-act-violations-and-destruction-us-property) Jeffrey Martinez, Special Agent in Charge of EPA’s criminal enforcement program in Montana.
Mr. Robertson did not harm the environment, he actually improved it. However, the government did not control these actions, and therefore, seems intent on sending that message. Robertson, who served his country honorably, including tours in Vietnam, faces losing everything he built over his lifetime.
Robertson (http://montana.redoubtnews.com/2016/06/06/plains-montana-rally-brings-patriots-together/) could now be sentenced up to 15 years in prison and a $250,000 fine. It would appear that their Federal Public Defender showed that he knows who he really works for, and it was not for Mr. Robertson. His oath to defend Robertson seemed not as strong as the oath to defend the government. In accordance with this stance, there currently is no appeal expected.
Sentencing is scheduled for July 20, 2016.
Updated: John Jacob Schmidt interviews Joseph Robertson!
Kris Ann Hall Talks about Joe’s case:
http://youtu.be/IOqD19vsZEM
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UPDATE on Joe Robertson (http://redoubtnews.com/2016/07/29/update-joe-robertson/)July 29, 2016In "Constitution"
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crimethink
1st March 2017, 01:03 PM
Is Sessions going to stop this obscenity against Mr. Robertson?
Is Trump going to? If Trump has any sincerity at all, a pardon will be promptly forthcoming.
monty
1st March 2017, 01:23 PM
Is Sessions going to stop this obscenity against Mr. Robertson?
Is Trump going to? If Trump has any sincerity at all, a pardon will be promptly forthcoming.
This young lady has an ambitious campaign ongoing for several months
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Horn
1st March 2017, 02:36 PM
You know there are deep hands involved in most EPA issues, its basically Fed and local .gov corrupt fascism, those western states especially annexed.
Joshua01
2nd March 2017, 10:12 AM
The EPA is going away. Trumpo can't do everything first but I'll be very much surprised if eliminating the EPA isn't on his bucket list!
monty
21st March 2017, 03:59 PM
The EPA, BLM, USFS, USFWS DOE, FDA, FAA, FCC and all other federal agencies and bureaucracies have unlimited power backed up by a corrupt DOJ and federal court system filled with even more corrupt judges. This is what Bundys, Hammonds, Hages, Finicums, Joe Robertsons and thousands of other Americans, like the Amish guy selling homemade salve, are either in prison for or fighting just to survive. KrisAnne Hall explains UNLIMITED POWER, unelected bureaucrats writing their own regulations
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monty
1st May 2017, 12:48 AM
Joe Robertson support group: Update Joe Robertson - Navy Vet Needs Your Help!
UPDATE: Joe Robertson – Navy Vet Needs YOUR Help!
HE HAS HAD ONLY ONE PERSON AUTHORIZED TO SEE HIM IN THE NEARLY 10 MONTHS HE HAS BEEN INCARCERATED (https://redoubtnews.com/2017/04/update-joe-robertson-navy-vet-needs-help/)
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UPDATE: Joe Robertson – Navy Vet Needs YOUR Help!
by Shari Dovale (https://redoubtnews.com/?s=Shari+Dovale)
Joe Robertson sits in his cell in FCI Englewood Prison, convicted of digging a hole on his own property. His health is deteriorating. He has such a hard time getting around that he has been forced to skip meals, and has lost over 60 pounds!
Yet, the prison counselor, Ms. Bresee, continues to threaten Joe with punishment if he makes a fuss. She has previously had him thrown into solitary confinement (https://redoubtnews.com/2016/11/joe-robertson-solitary-confinement/) for questioning her. The prison warden, Deborah Denham, has allowed this counselor to run roughshod over this 78 year old Navy Vet.
https://redoubtnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/walker-150x150.jpgThey have refused Robertson a proper walker, though other prisoners are allowed to have, and use, these same items. His knees are bone-on-bone, too painful to walk most days, and Joe has even been forced to crawl on his belly in order to get around the prison. He cannot get his laundry washed if he doesn’t have a friendly inmate willing to help him carry it.
The prison doctor, Dr. Cardova, has finally completed x-rays of Joe’s knees, agreeing with the VA Administration that Joe needs replacement surgery on both. Yet, he admits that it will take so long to get Joe the surgery that it doesn’t make sense to even submit the paperwork, so he didn’t bother (https://redoubtnews.com/2016/11/robertson-prison-refusing-medical-care/).
The prison refuses to administer pain medication, or medication required to treat his PTSD. Joe is forced to suffer through the pain.
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Though the doctor finally did get the x-rays, he has yet to deal with the multiple strokes that Joe is suspected of having while in prison. Robertson should have been given CT scans, yet the prison denies this treatment.
This is what happens when you defy the Federal Government!
Joe has even been denied visits by his friends and supporters. He has had only one person authorized to see him in the nearly 10 months he has been incarcerated, though many have tried. For four months, he was denied all contact with the outside world, including phone calls.
He was allowed only stamps and hygiene (with commissary) for 4 months, as well.
Because he did not get very good representation at his trials, or at his sentencing (https://redoubtnews.com/2016/07/joe-robertson-gets-ambushed-sentencing/), Joe made multiple attempts to fire his Public Defender, Mike Donahoe. This incompetent attorney has refused to step aside and allow Joe to make decisions on his own life. See Donahoe response here (https://redoubtnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/RobertsonDonahoeFiling.pdf).
President Trump has issued an executive order to “pave the way” to overturn the Obama Administration’s “Waters of the US” (WOTUS (https://redoubtnews.com/2017/02/wotus-pardon-joe-robertson/)) rule. This should have been the catalyst to have Joe Robertson freed from prison, but he continues to sit there, not able to walk or get around.
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Joe didn’t harm the environment, he helped it. Joe didn’t impact a “water of the U.S.” in any way, as proven by Ray Kagel (https://redoubtnews.com/2016/06/kagel-environmental-epa-robertson/). All he intended was to help his neighbors, his community, and his animals.
The elected officials seem to have given up on Joe. They have certainly Not made any headway, and in some cases, no efforts at all. Senator Cory Gardner (https://redoubtnews.com/2016/11/senator-gardner-needs-help-joe-robertson/)has been aware of Joe’s plight but has refused to help him.
Please contact the following people. Let’s get Joe some help!
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Michael Donahoe
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STEVE DAINES
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Washington, DC Office
Phone: 202-224-2651 (tel:202-224-2651)
FAX: 202-224-9412 (tel:202-224-9412)
Local
Phone: (406) 245-6822 (tel:(406) 245-6822)
fax: (406) 702-1182 (tel:(406) 702-1182)
Senator Cory Gardner (https://www.gardner.senate.gov/contact-cory/office-locations)
P: (202) 224-5941 (tel:(202) 224-5941)
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KrisAnne Hall explains Joe Robertson story (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSYQdqEQcHE&feature=youtu.be)
77yo Sent to Prison for Building a Pond! by Gavin Siem (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atLG4_IMifc&feature=youtu.be)
Hear from Joe Robertson June 5th, 2016 Plains, MT Build a Pond & Go To Prison by Lindsay Szymanski (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VufkiuNDll8&feature=youtu.be)
Western Land Issues Joe Robertson Montana Ponds Saga (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McLjME-fwSY&app=desktop)
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1st May 2017, 12:04 PM
epa fully rogue globalist snake pit
http://setexasrecord.com/stories/511105855-government-watchdog-files-foia-lawsuit-seeking-alleged-epa-encryption-documents
WASHINGTON – Judicial Watch Inc. filed a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit March 23 in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia alleging that some Environmental Protection Agency officials “may have used the cellphone encryption application ‘Signal’ to thwart government oversight and transparency,” according to a Judicial Watch news release.
Judicial Watch said it initially made an FOIA request for documents related to the encryption allegations Feb. 3. The EPA did not respond to that request, Judicial Watch said. According to the lawsuit, the EPA was required to decide whether to comply with the FOIA request within 20 days, meaning a decision would have been due by March 14.
Specifically, the lawsuit asks the court to order the EPA to turn over “any and all work-related communications sent to or from the following EPA officials using the app known as Signal for the period Feb. 3, 2016, to the present.”
The lawsuit also requests access to any or all records requesting or approving the use of the Signal messaging app for official EPA business beginning on July 1, 2014.
The communications are being sought from the EPA’s administrator, deputy administrator, assistant administrators for the offices of air and radiation, chemical safety and pollution prevention, enforcement and compliance assurance, land and emergency management and international and tribal affairs, as well as the agency’s chief financial officer.
Judicial Watch said Politico first reported the alleged use of the Signal app by EPA leaders on Feb. 2.
The Politco report said “Fearing for their jobs, the employees began communicating incognito using the app Signal shortly after (President Donald J.) Trump’s inauguration." The use of the app was reported to be designed to “create a network across the agency” to learn of any illegal activity within the Trump administration, Politco reported.
“This new lawsuit could expose how the anti-Trump ‘deep state’ embedded in EPA is working to undermine the rule of law,” Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said in the release. “Let’s hope the Trump administration enforces FOIA and turns over these records.”
In addition, Judicial Watch said the officials may be “attempting to use high-tech blocking devices to circumvent the Federal Records Act and the Freedom of Information Act altogether.”
Justice Watch also alleged that the EPA’s employees have been known to dispose of records and keep agency business private.
Justice Watch defines itself in the lawsuit as “a not-for-profit, educational organization that seeks to promote transparency, integrity and accountability in government and fidelity to the rule of law.”
singular_me
1st May 2017, 01:04 PM
melissa at it again
Forgotten 1976 Article Proves the EPA Won't Protect Us
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monty
30th July 2017, 05:34 PM
Pacific Legal Foundation Files Brief in Joe Roberstson Case.
Pacific Legal Foundation Files Brief in ROBERTSON Case
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PLF files amicus brief in Clean Water Act case
by Mark Miller, Pacific Legal Foundation (http://blog.pacificlegal.org/plf-files-amicus-brief-clean-water-act-case/)
Today Pacific Legal Foundation asked (http://blog.pacificlegal.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/PLF-MFL-to-File-AC-Brf-and-AC-Brf-In-Sprt-of-D-Aplnt.pdf)the Ninth Circuit to accept an amicus (http://blog.pacificlegal.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/PLF-AMICUS-BRIEF-STAMPED.pdf) brief, written on behalf of Mike and Chantell Sackett (https://www.pacificlegal.org/Sackett), as well as John Duarte and Duarte Nursery (https://www.pacificlegal.org/cases/duarte-nursery), supporting the defendant in United States v. Joseph David Robertson (http://mtstandard.com/natural-resources/a-drop-in-the-pond-joseph-robertson-shrugs-off-federal/article_cc763370-d510-5d3f-abb2-93cbf9d1fc16.html). The issue we comment upon involves how the courts should apply the Supreme Court’s Rapanos decision. Since PLF argued and won Rapanos (https://www.pacificlegal.org/page.aspx?pid=4008), it makes eminent sense for PLF to explain why the government unfairly applied Rapanosto Mr. Robertson in making its case against him for discharging (read: polluting) into “waters of the United States.”
The Montana Standard (http://mtstandard.com/natural-resources/a-drop-in-the-pond-joseph-robertson-shrugs-off-federal/article_cc763370-d510-5d3f-abb2-93cbf9d1fc16.html) summarized Mr. Robertson’s case well:
The feds, specifically the Environmental Protection Agency and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, said Robertson discharged dredged and fill material [that is, polluted waters of the United States] as a result of a series of ponds he built on land above the small town of Basin, just off Interstate 15 between Butte and Boulder [Montana].
Robertson doesn’t deny building the ponds; he freely admits using an excavator and rubber-tired backhoe to do the work.
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What he doesn’t understand is how someone could claim his ponds polluted anything, let alone the nearest navigable river — the Jefferson, about 60 miles away.
In fact, the EPA and the Corps claimed his ponds polluted the Jefferson River because the ponds had a “significant nexus” to the river sitting 60 miles away. The jury agreed and found him guilty of polluting federal waters.
Those magic words, “significant nexus,” come straight from Kennedy’s concurrence in Rapanos. The trial court told the jury to apply the Kennedy “significant nexus” test in determining whether Mr. Robertson polluted federal waters by building his ponds. Justice Kennedy’s test allows federal regulation of any wetland with a “significant nexus” to a traditional navigable water, even in the absence of a direct hydrological connection. That overly broad reading of waters of the United States per the Clean Water Act allowed the federal government to prosecute Mr. Robertson for “polluting” waters of the United States when he simply created ponds on his own property.
The four-member Scalia plurality in Rapanos, on the other hand, only would authorize federal regulation of those wetlands physically abutting and indistinguishable from natural rivers, lakes, and streams connected to a traditional navigable waterway. Under the Scalia test, Mr. Robertson would have been found not guilty (if charged at all), since his ponds are 60 miles away from the river, and do not abut lakes or streams. But as noted above, the government used the more expansive Kennedy test.
Earlier this year (http://blog.pacificlegal.org/running-controlling-opinion-rapanos-v-united-states/), we explained that the new Administration, in seeking to define “waters of the United States” within the meaning of the Clean Water Act, should rely upon Justice Scalia’s plurality opinion in the Rapanos case for the basis for its new WOTUS (https://redoubtnews.com/2017/02/wotus-pardon-joe-robertson/) definition. Some courts, like the instant court here, have relied upon Justice Kennedy’s one-justice-only concurrence in Rapanos, but, as PLF senior attorney Reed Hopper (https://www.pacificlegal.org/staff/M-Reed-Hopper) explains in a soon-to-be-published law review article (https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2983915), that flies in the face of Supreme Court precedent on how to interpret decisions where no single opinion commanded a 5-justice majority (as in Rapanos, a 4-1-4 decision). The Scalia opinion, not the Kennedy opinion, should control—as we argue in this amicus brief.
The federal government does not have the power to regulate the use of every drop of water in the nation, but at times the federal government acts like it has that authority. That is what happened (https://redoubtnews.com/2017/06/travesty-justice-free-joe-robertson/)in Mr. Robertson’s case, as well as the Sackett and Duarte cases. Since the Sackett and Duarte cases are pending in district courts within the Ninth Circuit’s jurisdiction, the Ninth Circuit’s decision in Robertson may control the outcome in their cases. For this reason, we filed our amicus brief. We look forward to Mr. Robertson’s exoneration on the Clean Water Act conviction, which should also finally bring the Sackett and Duarte cases to a close, as well.
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monty
7th September 2017, 07:41 PM
Joe Robertson has been released from federal prison in Colorado to halfway house in Montana following his hearing in the 9th Circuit
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Robertson was released into his own custody to enter into a halfway house in Butte, Montana, with plans to later be admitted to the Veterans Administration Medical Center in Fort Harrison, Montana. Robertson hopes to enter a PTSD inpatient program at the Fort Harrison VA. He remains under Department of Justice supervision, and his formal release date is December 2 of this year.
by Marjorie Haun
The elderly Vietnam veteran, Joe Robertson, convicted by the Obama Administration for alleged violations of the Clean Water Act, has been furloughed from the federal prison facility where he has been locked up since September of last year. Following his appeal in the Ninth Circuit Court, on Wednesday, September 6, Robertson was released into his own custody to enter into a halfway house in Butte, Montana, with plans to later be admitted to the Veterans Administration Medical Center in Fort Harrison, Montana. Robertson hopes to enter a PTSD inpatient program at the Fort Harrison VA. He remains under Department of Justice supervision, and his formal release date is December 2 of this year.
Lindsay Szymanski, creator of the Free Navy Vet Joe Robertson Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/FreeVetJoe/?hc_ref=ARQIF6UAY3JZzRqQBQD0v77Fge-4XP-xfjUskXykAMdpB2GRBniN1ZKFwtjxtf7fXEk), has advocated for and reported on Joe’s situation for several months, and in the video below you can see her greeting and talking to him as he leaves the prison and prepares to travel from Denver, where he has spent the last year in federal custody, to Butte. According to Lindsay, Mr. Robertson has lost 60 lbs while in prison, and is suffering from poor health due to a lack of proper care during his first months in prison. She told Free Range Report that prison officials initially neglected Robertson’s severe medical needs, and it was only after receiving a visit from Colorado Congressman, Ken Buck, that he began to receive the attention he needed.
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Joe Robertson after serving time in federal prison
Background:
An independent and patriotic man, Joe Robertson loves the outdoors and for years has taken care his own property in the Montana backwoods near the town of Basin, with his beloved service dog, Sasha at his side. He was prosecuted by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), for changes he made to a stock pond on a mining claim, which he owns.
Joe Robertson was convicted last year of alleged violations of the Clean Water Act related to activities on his Montana property. According to a May, 2016 report in Redoubt News: (https://redoubtnews.com/2016/05/montana-disabled-veteran-convicted-pond/)
Due to multiple fires in the area over the past several years, Robertson has maintained and improved his property by building stock ponds for his animals and fire prevention for his and the neighbor properties.
But, he has also scrapped with the government, by way of the Forest Service and the EPA, for years. The harassment by the government began over a decade ago, complaining that he was not allowed to repair the road that leads to his private property. This came to a head in 2013 when they charged this disabled veteran for violation of the Clean Water Act.
The government contends that nine stock ponds affect approximately one-tenth (1/10) of an acre of discharged pollutants into the Jefferson River, nearly 60 miles away.
The Prosecution’s contention that Robertson violated the Clean Water Act by ‘discharging pollutants’ into the Jefferson River, was at best, weak. The Redoubt report continues:
The report outlines that the alleged wetlands “is not waters of the U.S.” and it is virtually impossible for them have a “significant effect on the physical, chemical, and biological integrity of the Jefferson River.”
The first trial ended with a hung jury, but the feds quickly retried the case, and despite evidence of missteps and possible malfeasance on the part of EPA agents, Robertson was subsequently sentenced, and faced up to 15 years of prison time, a $250,000 fine and the potential forfeiture of his property.
Following his sentencing, Robertson was taken into custody, and moved to several federal prisons around the country. After time in the Pahrump, Nevada facility, he was moved to the FCI Englewood facility outside Denver, Colorado, and has been there since September of 2016. Redoubt News also reported, (https://redoubtnews.com/2016/11/robertson-prison-refusing-medical-care/) and Lindsay Szymanski confirmed, that Robertson, 77 at the time he entered prison, was denied proper medical care or follow up treatments for a previous stroke, until Congressman Ken Buck apparently intervened in his behalf.
After 16 months in federal prison, Joe Robertson’s appeal was heard by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in Seattle. Michael Donohoe, of the Federal Defenders of Montana, presented Robertson’s case to the court, which was bolstered by an Amicus Brief (see below) in Robertson’s defense written by Pacific Legal Foundation.
Pacific Legal Foundation took up Robertson’s case, and in its Amicus Brief also cited the Duarte Nursery case, in which farmer, John Durarte, was tried for the ‘EPA crime’ of plowing too deep on his own property. In its press release (http://blog.pacificlegal.org/plf-files-amicus-brief-clean-water-act-case/), Pacific Legal was optimistic about Robertson’s appeal:
The federal government does not have the power to regulate the use of every drop of water in the nation, but at times the federal government acts like it has that authority. That is what happened in Mr. Robertson’s case, as well as the Sackett and Duarte cases. Since the Sackett and Duarte cases are pending in district courts within the Ninth Circuit’s jurisdiction, the Ninth Circuit’s decision in Robertson may control the outcome in their cases. For this reason, we filed our amicus brief. We look forward to Mr. Robertson’s exoneration on the Clean Water Act conviction, which should also finally bring the Sackett and Duarte cases to a close, as well.
See the Amicus Brief here (http://blog.pacificlegal.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/PLF-AMICUS-BRIEF-STAMPED.pdf)
Video of Federal Appeals Court hearing
http://youtu.be/1ouUQaes5nI
According to Lindsay Szymanski, Roger Roots of the Constitution Society has also written an Amicus Brief in Robertson’s behalf, which may be an important hedge in his continued defense, since it is reported that the Forest Service has submitted a civil case against Joe Robertson.
Below, independent journalist John Lamb, Roger Roots, and others are seen greeting Joe Robertson upon his arrival in Montana. His case is not over, and he remains a felon under federal law. His appeal has not yet received a final determination and Joe and his family still need prayers and support.
http://youtu.be/71hJtguUhAg
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monty
23rd December 2017, 09:17 PM
The Death of Common Sense: The Joe Robertson Story. And a Merry Christmas!!
The Death Of Common Sense: The Joe Robertson Story (https://redoubtnews.com/2017/12/death-common-sense-joe-robertson-story/)
MERRY CHRISTMAS, MAY WE REMEMBER THE WORDS OF THE CHRIST WHO TRIED TO BRING BACK COMMON SENSE
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The Death Of Common Sense: The Joe Robertson Story
“Common sense is not so common” ~Voltaire
by Loren Edward Pearce (https://redoubtnews.com/?s=Loren+Edward+Pearce)
One of my favorite common sense expressions is: “You don’t have the common sense that God gave a goat”. The point is, God really did give a goat some common sense, but there are two legged creatures, humans, that seem to have even less common sense than a goat.
Ralph Waldo Emerson said that common sense is, “Genius dressed in work clothes.”
Common sense is what made this country great, what made it different than other countries. It is the stuff that launched America to the status of being the most prosperous, most powerful and most just and righteous country in the world. It was what made the USA a beacon, a magnet to the billions of people who live in other countries not blessed with common sense and who are desperate for it. People who, because of corruption, because of a caste systems, because of ridiculous traditions, and other nonsensical thinking, are denied the fruits of common sense.
The U.S. Constitution is, “genius dressed in work clothes.” and was written by people who were unified in their common sense. But, the same common sense that made America so unique and so great, seems to be dead, a victim of nonsense, the opposite of common sense and critical thinking.
Maybe Thomas Paine, who wrote the book, “Common Sense”, explains why the USA has lost its common sense:
“Men who look upon themselves born to reign, and others to obey, soon grow insolent (lazy); selected from the rest of mankind their minds are early poisoned by importance; and the world they act in differs so materially from the world at large, that they have but little opportunity of knowing its true interests, and when they succeed to the government are frequently the most ignorant and unfit of any throughout the dominions.”
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Joe Robertson and Sasha
The Joe Robertson Story
For those who don’t have a good feel for the Joe Robertson story, you can get caught up here (https://redoubtnews.com/2016/05/montana-disabled-veteran-convicted-pond/).
In a nutshell, a former veteran who honorably served the USA, was thrown into prison for building some ponds on his own property to not only benefit his little ranch but to benefit his neighbors and the surrounding forest with water for fighting fires, for wildlife and for other water needs.
The federal government workers from the Environmental Protection Agency, the Forest Service and other alphabet soup federal agencies, saw fit to declare such ponds illegal and a threat to the water (https://redoubtnews.com/2016/06/kagel-environmental-epa-robertson/) owned by the federal government.
Although the ponds are many miles from any water used for drinking or for other purposes for which the ponds might be harmful, somehow the feds found a way for Joe Robertson to be in violation of their interpretation of the law (https://redoubtnews.com/2017/02/wotus-pardon-joe-robertson/) and in their less than a goat’s common sense minds, these feds not only found the elderly Robertson to be in violation but gleefully sentenced him to prison, making him a felon for life and causing many other mind boggling (for those with greater than goat minds) injuries to Joe Robertson such as cutting off his social security.
Can You Imagine?
Can you imagine sitting in a conference room with other professional looking people, who appear to be smarter than goats, and who work for the federal government as prosecutors or as judges or as alphabet soup bureaucrats, and discussing, the violations of law by Joe Robertson and the compelling reasons why an elderly man who built ponds on his own land for beneficial reasons should be condemned to prison?
Maybe the discussion went something like this:
Fed 1: ‘Well, the law is the law. We have to have law and order. If people like Robertson take the law into their own hands and build ponds on their own land, entrapping water that belongs to the federal government, then we will have chaos and we will have anarchy. We can’t have that!”
Fed 2: “Yeah, we need to make Robertson an example so that any of those constitution thumping extremists decide to protest, they will think twice before keeping water for their own use. The constitutional extremists will see how easy it is to put people into prison and will be less likely to make our jobs harder.”
Fed 3: “Yeah, if they don’t like all of the unelected bureaucrats, if they don’t like the laws that congress makes without ever reading the laws they are passing, if they don’t like how things are run, then they can elect somebody different who can change it all. Until then, they have to go along with it, because the law is the law.”
Fed Judge: “And besides, we are all on one team. Congress, the bureaucracies, the prosecutors, my fellow federal judges, all the many federal law enforcers, we are all on the same team, and we are special, we have special immunities, we are federal and it doesn’t get any better than that. Non-government people, like Joe Robertson, are threats to our team, we need to use teamwork to put people like Robertson away.”
The Finer Points Of The Law
The purpose of this article is to not go into depth on the finer points of the law as they pertain to previous court decisions or the intent of congress in passing the laws that tripped up Joe Robertson and, for that matter, that made the Hammonds (https://redoubtnews.com/2016/02/hammond-case-facts-ammon-bundy/) terrorists subject to minimum sentencing of 5 years in federal prison for a back burn near their property.
No, if I were to delve into the world of some attorneys, judges and legislators regarding the definition of water ownership or the need to protect the environment through countless federal job security justifying regulations, then I would be dignifying the less than a goat common sense of these people.
The purpose of this article is to come to our senses, the sense that God gave human beings, the sense that made our country great, the envy of the rest of the world, the sense that human beings have in common and that allow us to pursue happiness. The sense that for profit prisons don’t need more Joe Robertsons, Hammonds, Bundys (https://redoubtnews.com/2017/12/mistrial-declared-bunkerville-trial/) and other similar people.
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Jesus Was Born Into A World Devoid Of Common Sense
At this Christmas time, as we consider the glad tidings that attended the birth of Jesus Christ, let us also consider that Jesus was born into a world badly in need of common sense. Let us consider that the world today is as bad, if not worse, than the less than a goat common sense world of Jesus:
“Woe to you lawyers as well! For you weigh men down with burdens (millions of laws and prison sentences) hard to bear, while you yourselves will not even touch the burdens with one of your fingers (federal official and good ole boy immunity). Luke 11:46 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+11%3A46&version=KJV)
“Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath day? (have water in your ponds?)…Which of you shall have an ass or an ox fallen into a pit, and will not straightway pull him out on the Sabbath day?’ (which of you having a forest fire do not appreciate having water ponds nearby?) Luke 14:3,5 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+14%3A3%2C5&version=KJV)
“Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! (federal team), for ye devour widows’ houses (or those left husbandless by their for profit prisons) and for a pretense make long prayer (prayer in the form of prosecutor motions to the federal team member, a judge)
“Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! … and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith (throwing elderly into prison, denying a presumption of innocence to the income earners of large families, seeking punishment rather than mercy): these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.”
“Ye blind guides (blind to common sense) which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel” (nit-pick over millions of self-serving laws and regulations and then ignore the harm being caused by throwing honorable people into profit making prisons).
“Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter (filing formatted motions to the court with correct spelling and grammar and full of supporting citations), but within they are full of extortion and excess (intentionally withholding exculpatory discovery for the purpose of extorting plea deals through intimidation and fear)
“Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For ye are like unto whited sepulchers (beautiful court houses with the finest architecture) which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men’s bones and of all uncleanness. (plea deals, backroom conspiracies, intentional coaching of witnesses to say “I don’t recall”, denial of constitutional rights, condemning innocent people to prison and all the horrors of the same.)
Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men,(well dressed, expensive clothing, articulate, well spoken) but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity” (speaks for itself)
Merry Christmas, May We Remember The Words Of The Christ Who Tried To Bring Back Common Sense.
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C.Martel
23rd December 2017, 09:23 PM
The EPA, BLM, USFS, USFWS DOE, FDA, FAA, FCC and all other federal agencies and bureaucracies have unlimited power backed up by a corrupt DOJ and federal court system filled with even more corrupt judges. This is what Bundys, Hammonds, Hages, Finicums, Joe Robertsons and thousands of other Americans, like the Amish guy selling homemade salve, are either in prison for or fighting just to survive. KrisAnne Hall explains UNLIMITED POWER, unelected bureaucrats writing their own regulations
http://youtu.be/6_b6LF36Bck
https://youtu.be/6_b6LF36Bck
They don't have power, they have terrorism. God has the power. Jews have influence. When the Americans realize this, the terrorists' fall will be great. Jailing Amish for being Amish. And shooting Palestinians, including Santa in Gaza, should be enough to convince people of good will to end all support for the zionists. There was a woman in Florida with ALS, Lou Gerig's Disease. She was supposed to have died in the 90s, according to the "Federal Government", but was smoking cannabis every day to help her stay healthy. She was out living her doctors and her doctors used her story to teach students about ALS and told the students the patient believes the cannabis is what is keeping her alive. She kept plants growing in her property, not the terrorist "government's" property. Using these plants to supply her with the cannabis to smoke daily. The terrorists raided her home and took away her medicine that was keeping her alive, and I am not sure of her present condition, she may have died by now without the cannabis. This is but one case of many where terrorists ruin people's lives because they think they are somehow justified in murdering others. And yes, taking away an old person's helpful medicine is murder.
monty
12th April 2019, 07:56 AM
No justice for Joe Robertson
Joe Robertson recently passed away after suffering a stroke. But his “Waters of the USA” case is ongoing. The Supreme Court could hear the case.
If the case does make it to the Supreme Court one question (which won’t be addressed) “do the U.S. District Courts and prosecutors have jurisdiction in the 50 States?”
https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/438355-its-time-for-the-supreme-court-to-end-regulators-abuse-of-clean?amp
It's time for the Supreme Court to end regulators' abuse of Clean Water Act rule
By Tony Francois, opinion contributor
April 11, 2019 - 07:00 AM EDT
The views expressed by contributors are their own and not the view of The Hill For years, federal regulators harassed U.S. Navy veteran Joe Robertson (https://pacificlegal.org/case/united-states-v-robertson/), charging him with violating the Clean Water Act for digging ponds on private property and subjecting him to ongoing legal proceedings. They even put him in prison for a year and a half.
Robertson, 80, died from a stroke on March 18, which you might think would end the government's vendetta against him. Guess again. The feds are lining up to target his widow - unless the Supreme Court steps in to correct the government's injustice against the Robertsons.
This week, the court will decide whether to review Robertson's 2016 conviction. As a matter of justice, the court should allow his widow, Carrie, to take his place in the appeal.
The Robertsons' ordeal began when he dug water supply ponds for fire prevention in a clearing in the woods near his home in Montana.
For this act of service to his family and community, Robertson faced federal prosecution. The government claimed Robertson's pond construction violated the Clean Water Act (https://www.epa.gov/laws-regulations/history-clean-water-act), which regulates navigable waterways.
The problem with that argument: the Robertsons' property is 40 miles from the nearest navigable waters. You might think that "navigable" has a specific meaning, suggesting a waterway that allows the passage of a boat or other watercraft. Sounds like common sense, right?
But in the complex and absurdly overreaching definition used by government bureaucrats, "navigable" describes virtually any body of water within the United States, no matter how small, thus giving them nearly limitless regulatory authority over private property.
Sadly, this dubious notion comes from the federal courts, which in earlier decisions allowed the Environmental Protection Agency to regulate not just navigable rivers as indicated by the statute, but also remote ponds and small rivulets.
Such vague standards are an invitation to government abuse, which is what happened to Robertson. He was prosecuted, and his first trial was declared a mistrial. In his second trial, Robertson was sentenced to 18 months in federal prison and ordered to pay $130,000 to the U.S Forest Service.
He finished his prison sentence over a year ago, but when he passed away last month, he still owed most of the $130,000. In a cruel twist, the government could collect the money from Robertson's estate. This would impoverish his widow.
Unless the Supreme Court steps in. Robertson's attorneys with Pacific Legal Foundation have asked the court to allow Carrie Robertson to take her husband's place in the case and to review and overturn his convictions.
For the court to do so would be a step in the direction of justice. But just as importantly, the court's decision would clarify the incoherence of the government's definition of "navigable waters," while serving to restrain regulatory agencies from further vindictive actions against property owners.
The reality is that, despite what regulators appear to believe, the federal government does not have the authority to regulate every drop of water in the United States. The current enforcement regime has resulted in confusion on the part of property owners and abusive actions on the part of regulators.
Enough is enough. The Supreme Court needs to clarify the situation by taking Robertson's case, reversing his unjust conviction, and clarifying that "navigable" refers to waterways that are passable by floating boats, and not nameless trickles in the woods.
Tony Francois is a senior attorney with Pacific Legal Foundation (http://www.pacificlegal.org/), which litigates nationwide to achieve court victories enforcing the Constitution's guarantee of individual liberty. Follow him on Twitter @TonyFrancoisEsq (https://twitter.com/TonyFrancoisEsq).
ziero0
12th April 2019, 08:20 AM
The Supreme Court needs to clarify the situation by taking Robertson's case, reversing his unjust conviction, and clarifying that "navigable" refers to waterways that are passable by floating boats, and not nameless trickles in the woods.
Maritime law. This encompasses all of commerce. You were entered into commerce by your parents when you were born. Called a birth certificate. Ships have births. The birth certificate is a bond. Maritime law deals extensively with bonds.
CitizenSHIP? Are you a vessel then? Is the name on the birth certificate the name of a SHIP? Is that your all caps name? Maritime law.
King George settled the revolutionary war (after the rebels won one battle) using a description of the United States that was largely aquatic. Great care was used to make sure that each state has at least one portal to the ocean. Maritime law.
There are no watersheds in any state. The watersheds belong to the feds. Maritime law.
When the District of Columbia was incorporated circa 1871 the description for the City of Washington "included" several islands in the Potomac. Or ... the District of Columbia actually IS these islands in the Potomac. Maritime law.
The insurance industry came ashore in the 1840s. Insurance is a maritime concept.
The signs are all there. Everything places you in maritime law. You keep striking at the branches and ignoring the root.
monty
14th April 2019, 07:02 AM
Joe Robertson and his bar ass attorneys failed to recognize his,
1. granted private property rights, Ronald Reltih Ponce de Leon “get your Land Patent!”
2. failed to challenge that he is not a U.S. Citizen under the jurisdiction of the District of Montana, 3. collaterally attack the trespassers
All this has been revealed by http://jeffersonminingdistrict.com/ in their 2013 lawsuit which they won by default, https://dockets.justia.com/docket/oregon/ordce/1:2013cv01147/112767/
and by Dr. John Parks Trowbridge Jr. in his 20+ year battle with the IRS and Southern District of Texas judges and persecutors
https://supremecourtcase.wordpress.com/2018/07/06/bonus-how-government-justifies-treating-you-as-a-subject-and-extorting-you-and-what-you-can-do-about-it/
Jewboo
14th April 2019, 07:28 AM
No justice for Joe Robertson. Joe Robertson recently passed away after suffering a stroke.
Whatever transpires after his death is meaningless. They made and proved their point: They will destroy you and your family if you fuck with the Government.
ziero0
14th April 2019, 07:37 AM
Whatever transpires after his death is meaningless. They made and proved their point: They will destroy you and your family if you fuck with the Government.
A stroke involves government killing you?
A stroke might come about because of stress or inactivity. Deep vein thrombosis?
That said a friend filed a court action to recover property stolen in a tax lien scheme. The property had been separated from him by about 20 years and a new 'buyer' of his tax deficiency (aka "the property") was set to prosecute a clear title action at 9 a.m. He didn't make it as he was struck down by a heart attack at 3 a.m. The coincidence is pretty clear but likely it was his stress that done the guy in.
monty
14th April 2019, 08:57 AM
Whatever transpires after his death is meaningless. They made and proved their point: They will destroy you and your family if you fuck with the Government.
It may not be meaningless for his wife. She is left without his Social Security because of his conviction and now the .gov wants 130,000 dollars from Joe’s estate. If his conviction is overturned in the Suoreme Court (unlikely the court will choose to hear the case) it will mean Joe’s widow might have a few pennies to exist on.
Jewboo
14th April 2019, 09:55 AM
(unlikely the court will choose to hear the case)
The penniless wife will be a living example of what happens when anybody fucks with the Government.
monty
14th April 2019, 10:38 AM
The penniless wife will be a living example of what happens when anybody fucks with the Government.
I am afraid your prediction will come true.
Bigjon
14th April 2019, 01:23 PM
The penniless wife will be a living example of what happens when anybody fucks with the Government.
I'll bet she's a REGISTERED VOTER and a good US CITIZEN.
ziero0
14th April 2019, 02:59 PM
The penniless wife will be a living example
Perhaps being penniless is a status to be preferred? The alternative is to believe there is money or that it can buy happiness?
monty
14th April 2019, 03:10 PM
I'll bet she's a REGISTERED VOTER and a good US CITIZEN.
She probably hasn’t learned the difference. Her bar ass lawyers aren’t going to enlighten her.
monty
16th April 2019, 05:12 PM
Royston Potter is reporting that U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Joe Robertson’s favor.
https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-supreme-court-moves-to-overturn-conviction-of-veteran-fined-and-jailed-for-digging-ponds-on-his-rural-montana-property/
http://youtu.be/DXiS8g_OmL4
https://youtu.be/DXiS8g_OmL4
monty
16th April 2019, 05:14 PM
The penniless wife will be a living example of what happens when anybody fucks with the Government.
Well Book, seems like the U.S. Supreme Court came to her rescue.
https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-supreme-court-moves-to-overturn-conviction-of-veteran-fined-and-jailed-for-digging-ponds-on-his-rural-montana-property/
Jewboo
16th April 2019, 05:59 PM
Well Book, seems like the U.S. Supreme Court came to her rescue.
https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-supreme-court-moves-to-overturn-conviction-of-veteran-fined-and-jailed-for-digging-ponds-on-his-rural-montana-property/
Supreme Court Website: Joseph David Robertson, Petitioner v. United States (https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/18-609.html)
I stand corrected Monty. Your threads truly are the most educational here at GSUS.
Doesn't a "remand" back to the lower Court actually continue torturing this penniless widow Monty? The court punted rather then end her nightmare once and for all.
:(??
monty
16th April 2019, 08:34 PM
Supreme Court Website: Joseph David Robertson, Petitioner v. United States (https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/18-609.html)
I stand corrected Monty. Your threads truly are the most educational here at GSUS.
Doesn't a "remand" back to the lower Court actually continue torturing this penniless widow Monty? The court punted rather then end her nightmare once and for all.
:(??
not being a legal expert I don’t know, and I didn’t read the case on the Supreme Court Website, but Judicial Watch said the SCOTUS remanded it back to the lower court to so the indictment could be dismissed and the lien cancelled. Does the lower court not have to abide by the ruling of the Supreme Court?
Edit: This from the Supreme Court Website makes it sound like Judicial Watch is wishful thinking. You may be correct in assuming more torture for the widow.
Petition GRANTED. Judgment VACATED and case REMANDED for consideration of the question whether the case is moot.
Jewboo
16th April 2019, 08:46 PM
not being a legal expert I don’t know, and I didn’t read the case on the Supreme Court Website, but Judicial Watch said the SCOTUS remanded it back to the lower court to so the indictment could be dismissed and the lien cancelled. Does the lower court not have to abide by the ruling of the Supreme Court?
Edit: This from the Supreme Court Website makes it sound like Judicial Watch is wishful thinking. You may be correct in assuming more torture for the widow.
Supreme Court could have themselves dismissed the indictment and cancelled the lien ENDING this penniless widow's nightmare. They just punted to drag it out even longer. I'm reminded of this pithy truth Monty:
Justice Delayed Is Justice Denied
monty
16th April 2019, 08:53 PM
Supreme Court could have themselves dismissed the indictment and cancelled the lien ENDING this penniless widow's nightmare. They just punted to drag it out even longer. I'm reminded of this pithy truth Monty:
Justice Delayed Is Justice Denied
Since it is being remanded back to the lower court I am going to ask the legal adviser/researcher for the Jefferson Mining District who is an expert in property law if it is too late to bring up the private property rights and the trespass by Uncle Sam as well as challenging the jurisdiction of a court of incompetent jurisdiction. I’ll report back with his opinions.
monty
17th April 2019, 07:11 AM
My question to Jefferson Mining District:
From the U.S. Supreme Court docket:
“Petition GRANTED. Judgment VACATED and case REMANDED for consideration of the question whether the case is moot.”
Can the issues of property rights, trespass, competency of court & judges be brought up at this time?
his response first was no, then after finding the amicus he had reservations:
”No. Robertson by the Summary Dispositions statement is Deceased, while seeking an appeal of right. Death during appeal of right causes deprivation of final adjudication of guilt or innocence justice requires. This is likely returned to beginning as if nothing started, no merits.”
“I'm not so sure. The amicus argues a couple important issues but doesn't argue property rights. I don't see the petition or decision why it's being vacated & remanded....”
ziero0
17th April 2019, 08:03 AM
In Wager of Battel champions are selected to meet at sunrise and after swearing an oath on their belief in the rightness of the cause and that they have neither blade of grass nor stone on their person as a ward against witchcraft the action commences. Should either champion have enough and cry CRAVEN then the issue is settled on his opponents behalf and the coward may never sit on a jury again.
1. Wager of Battel is a jury
2. The reason the litigants don't fight is because if one of them should die then the suit shall continue in the name of the estate.
I wish you well in your endeavor should you decide to enter the office of CHAMPION.
Bigjon
17th April 2019, 08:14 AM
All land in America is owned privately. The United States can only write law for land that it owns.
But they have a few tricks to get you to walk into their spiders den as a US Citizen. When you go into their court you have granted them jurisdiction and they will take your land or fine you or whatever seems like they can get away with. You have to stay out of their court.
Paul JJ Hansen has the details about how this works.
http://freeinhabitant.info/counseling-fees/counsel-time-available-by-paul-john-hansen.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HtpPMynE5o
monty
21st April 2019, 08:24 PM
Supreme Court could have themselves dismissed the indictment and cancelled the lien ENDING this penniless widow's nightmare. They just punted to drag it out even longer. I'm reminded of this pithy truth Monty:
Justice Delayed Is Justice Denied
After I questioned Hal Anthony about the Supreme Court hearing he dug into Joe Robertson’s case. The Judicial Watch story is bs.
Hal explains what he found when he researched the case.
Advance to 1:29:45 to hear what he found.
http://youtu.be/PR3ud_7zh8Y
https://youtu.be/PR3ud_7zh8Y
Bigjon
22nd April 2019, 08:45 AM
Looks like more of the same, Judicial Watch says hey public we've got your back, nothing for you to worry about.
Supreme Court says, we've got your back, wait while we protect our own and make it look like we're protecting you.
The US BAR SYSTEM INC a private for profit law system screwing the public one US CITIZEN at a time.
ziero0
22nd April 2019, 11:00 AM
The US BAR SYSTEM INC a private for profit law system screwing the public one US CITIZEN at a time.
Prostitution is not legal but if you are involved with it from the supplier end likely the system will get their cut.
monty
12th October 2019, 03:51 PM
The Whitehouse website had the following statement relating to Trump’s recent E.O.. It did not name Joe Robertson, but he is clearly the 77 year old navy vet referenced in this statement.
COMBATING BUREAUCRATIC ABUSE: The Trump Administration is taking action to end the administrative abuse that hurts American families and small businesses.
Under the Obama Administration, a lack of transparency and accountability allowed Federal agencies to commit horrible abuses against the American people.
Agencies abused their power by imposing unlawful and secret interpretations of regulations, as well as by threatening families and businesses with unfair and unexpected penalties.
In 2014, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) threatened a family with up to $20 million in fines for building an environmentally-friendly pond for livestock without first seeking EPA permission, even though Congress had exempted these ponds from EPA’s reach.
A 77-year-old United States Navy veteran was imprisoned and ordered to pay $130,000 after the EPA – under the Clean Water Act – declared several small ponds the veteran created to fight wildfires as federally protected navigable waters.
Going forward, agencies will have to give people fair notice of any complaint against them and a chance to respond.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-combating-bureaucratic-abuse-holding-federal-agencies-accountable/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wh
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