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madfranks
11th August 2015, 02:01 PM
My go-to online dealer has always been APMEX, because they usually have the best premiums when buying large amounts of silver. So today I'm browsing and I see that $100 face value bags of average circulated half dollars are $1568 per bag. That's for 200 coins, which means each average circulated half dollar is $7.84. Coinflation.com puts the spot value of a silver half at $5.56, which means APMEX is charging a 40% premium on junk silver! I've never seen such a high premium on junk silver before.

palani
11th August 2015, 02:22 PM
Collector value.

Franklins or Kennedys?

Half Sense
11th August 2015, 02:53 PM
No longer junk, I guess.

ximmy
11th August 2015, 03:00 PM
Perhaps supplies are running low. Local dealers usually have the best price on junk.

madfranks
11th August 2015, 03:10 PM
Collector value.

Franklins or Kennedys?

Same price for Franklins, Kennedys, and Walkers. Avg. circulated, not BU or uncirculated coins here.

osoab
11th August 2015, 04:22 PM
I purchased some 1 oz rounds for 60 yesterday. Good cause, a start of a collection, and they are not making that many for the new stamps every year.

ximmy
11th August 2015, 04:34 PM
What You Need to Know About Silver Supply and Premiums
Lower precious metals prices on Wall Street aren't necessarily bringing lower prices on Main Street.
The retail market for gold and silver coins, bars, and rounds has been swamped with high demand since mid June. Both the U.S. Mint and the Royal Canadian Mint continue to run into serious issues keeping up with retail silver coin demand.

After selling out in early August, the U.S. Mint resumed deliveries of Silver American Eagles, but it has since been rationing them out. And this week brings word of new silver supply-chain problems. Mint officials let it be known they are cutting further back on Silver Eagle shipments, reducing them as much as 20% below already insufficient levels.

Dealers already had some catching up to do, and similar news from the Royal Canadian Mint (RCM) late last week won't help either.

RCM officials announced significant "problems" with sourcing silver blanks for production of the Silver Maple Leaf. At least one major wholesaler stopped accepting new orders for the popular coin all together.

The one-two punch of U.S. Mint and RCM rationing and production breakdowns promises to keep buy premiums elevated and cause shipping delays on most government-minted silver coins for the foreseeable future.

Are Delivery Delays and Higher Premiums Reasonable?Bullion investors watched spot prices fall relentlessly during the month of July and a whole lot of them decided to go bargain hunting. Unfortunately, when they called their dealer to buy silver, they found significantly higher premiums and delivery delays on most items.

Seizing the opportunity to buy silver on the cheap when spot prices fell below $15 per ounce has proven harder than many expected.

Inventory constraints in the marketplace SO FAR are primarily a function of bottlenecks in manufacturing of certain products – not an outright shortage of raw silver grain or bars.

Reputable dealers like Money Metals Exchange will only accept orders for precious metals that it already owns and for products it knows it can fulfill. Responsible dealers make commitments to customers up front about when a customer should receive delivery, and then meet (or exceed) those commitments. And, as frustrating as it might be to do so, prudent dealers will stop selling items that cannot be reliably sourced.

Unfortunately, some dealers operate differently – taking all the orders they can regardless and hoping and praying they can follow through as promised. That’s risky for both the dealer and the customer.

If your dealer is consistently missing commitments on delivery, or quoting delays significantly longer than other dealers, you should be wondering if the company truly is "selling silver they don't have." Shipment in one to two weeks after payment clearing is reasonable given current bottleneck conditions. Anything approaching a multi-month delay at this point should be viewed as unacceptable.

Demand during Price Drops Tends to Force Premiums UpThe physical market for precious metals, unlike the paper futures markets for gold and silver, DOES respond to real-world supply and demand fundamentals. This market is also extraordinarily competitive. Premiums have to be set at fair levels or customers go elsewhere.

One misconception is that higher premiums go straight into the dealers' pockets. In reality, the wholesale premiums and fabrication costs associated with securing inventory are also rising.

Dealers aggressively bid for scarce inventory and production capacity so their customers can access the supply they want.

In recent weeks, for example, Money Metals Exchange has actively encouraged customers to buy silver rounds, where premiums rose only modestly, and silver bars, where premiums increased only a few cents.

http://www.fxstreet.com/analysis/precious-metals-news-and-analysis/2015/08/11/02/

milehi
11th August 2015, 05:26 PM
My go-to online dealer has always been APMEX, because they usually have the best premiums when buying large amounts of silver. So today I'm browsing and I see that $100 face value bags of average circulated half dollars are $1568 per bag. That's for 200 coins, which means each average circulated half dollar is $7.84. Coinflation.com puts the spot value of a silver half at $5.56, which means APMEX is charging a 40% premium on junk silver! I've never seen such a high premium on junk silver before.

A half cost $7.84 at Monarch Precious Metals too.

Sparky
12th August 2015, 09:38 PM
This is good news for silver holders. But still nothing like the 2008 bottom, when they wouldn't sell it at all.