26,000 firefighters!

[EE_]

Can it get any worse?

‘Hell Storm’ Kills 3 Firefighters

A firefighter pulls a fire hose as he works to battle the so-called "Cabin Fire" in the Angeles National Forest near Los Angeles, California August 14, 2015. Picture taken August 14.
Jonathan Alcorn/Reuters

Three U.S. Forest Service firefighters were killed Wednesday battling one of 15 wildfires in Washington state. “The fire was racing and the winds were blowing in every direction and then it would shift,” said Okanogan County Sheriff Frank Rogers, who called the fire a “hell storm.” As many as four other firefighters were injured. It took more than 200 firefighters and 20 aircraft—with support from Canada— to contain 20 percent of the blaze. More than 235,000 acres of the state have been burnt so far. More than 26,000 firefighters and 200 soldiers are fighting the blazes. The governor has requested President Obama declare a federal emergency.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2015/08/19/3-firefighters-killed-in-wa-wildfire.html

[Dogman]

When land does not see any moisture/rain so to speak in years and the vegetation is bone dry, and becomes a tinderbox, sure it will burn in less than a micro second. Then you have the developers that open up and build in places that are eye candy to the soul, people will buy and support the developers in making a buck.

Then you have also a wrong standard to suppress natural occurring fires for longer than some reading have lived on this earth so , the dead tender builds up year by year. So when it finally torches off, YES those fires are going to burn hot/long and with a vengeance.

Which in many ways could have been prevented by letting nature do its thing with natural occurring fires that have been going on before man moved in, or in modern time controlled burns to burn off the the dead underbrush/tender.

In some areas we messed with mother nature by imposing our will and prevented natural processes from happening.

Now in the drought man is in a way paying for his intervention, that if nature was allowed to do its thing the outcome would be less severe!

Mis Dos Centavos !

[gunDriller]

Can it get any worse?

I haven't done the numbers yet. Maybe someday. For how many acres of tinder dry un-cleared brush, dead trees, and live trees - the typical forest mix - it takes to add up to the amount of energy in one nuclear bomb, Hiroshima size.

Somewhere between 10 and 100 acres.


In Southern Oregon, in the 2014 fire season, 10 to 15 of those fires were deliberately set, according to local news.


All or most of those people are still running around, un-tracked.


I've never seen a bigger set up for a massive cluster-fuck. I think Southern Florida could match it if they had an approaching
CAT 5 (or 6) Hurricane, and the roads gave out.

[milehi]

I haven't done the numbers yet. Maybe someday. For how many acres of tinder dry un-cleared brush, dead trees, and live trees - the typical forest mix - it takes to add up to the amount of energy in one nuclear bomb, Hiroshima size.

Around here, there's organizations that scream bloody murder if thinning the forest is suggested, or any management of any Kind. Save Our Forest Associaton is better known as Scortch Our Forest Association.

[ImaCannin]

There is a fire called the Soda Fire in Idaho. This started due south of my house. By the next day they were evacuating the road 1 mile south of me. The whole valley was one big smoke cloud. We went to bed and the fire was going North West and woke up to the fire going south east, totally the other direction . The mountains are 5 miles from my house and we could not see them for days.. For a few days we had about 1 mile visibility. It is still a smoggy mess. Makes me think we are in LA!

We were in the feed store today talking to the sales lady. Her hubby is a firefighter and we talked about how the fire would hit and miss clusters of land, she said it was private land that the fire missed, because the land had been properly grazed. The BLM had put a bunch of restrictions on the land earlier this year or last, as to when you could graze and when you couldnt. The fire was TOTALLY under control and they wanted to give it one more day ($$$$$) then the Winds (HAARP) kicked up and spread the fire. So now all this BLM land that the cattle and wild life grazed is burnt up... Not to mention all the cattle that were burnt up alive. They said they can replant this year and start grazing again in 3 + years!!! Now my county is declared a disaster and we get Government Help......... and all the extras that comes with that! .... They are setting fire to all the wild lands around this area! The Thunder storm that came thru that they said started all these fires was THE WORST storm I had heard in Years... No rain just hellasious thunder and lightning!

Watch out guys................ I hope you have your food... It looks like its going to be getting worse!

ImaCannin

[Dogman]

Hi wild woman !

Sent from my Nexus 7

[ImaCannin]

Hi you big hunk of a man!

[Dogman]

Hi you big hunk of a man!

While you are here , take no prisoner's !

And hope you are well!

Your last reports were disturbing!

Peace!

Sent from my Nexus 7

[ImaCannin]

While you are here , take no prisoner's !



So what do you expect me to eat?

[Dogman]

So what do you expect me to eat?

Dam good question!

Thought you swore off meat ?

May lesser being's tremble, they that are in your path !


;)

Sent from my Nexus 7

[osoab]

Ima!

[ximmy]

Ima!


Cannin!

[EE_]

Hi Ima!
Hope you are doing well and staying safe from the fires.

EE :)

[ImaCannin]

Hi Ima!
Hope you are doing well and staying safe from the fires.

EE :)

Hey EE..... I am fine... just a little SMOKED! OO)~

[ImaCannin]

Ima!

Howdy!

[osoab]

Howdy!

Good Evening. Hope all is well with you and yours.

[Dogman]

Good to see you here lusty woman, if anything to keep this herd of ________fill in the blank straight ! ;)

Do not remain a stranger !

Plus your health has improved !

[hoarder]

Around here, there's organizations that scream bloody murder if thinning the forest is suggested, or any management of any Kind. Save Our Forest Associaton is better known as Scortch Our Forest Association.




We were in the feed store today talking to the sales lady. Her hubby is a firefighter and we talked about how the fire would hit and miss clusters of land, she said it was private land that the fire missed, because the land had been properly grazed.

The environmentalist and USFS ideology is completely oblivious to the history of the Fire of 1910. Nature does NOT do a good job of self-regulation in this region. Trees grow too close together to survive long term where there is only 14" of annual precipitation.

We're getting all the smoke from the Idaho Lawyer Comlex and everything West of there.

Here is the website to monitor:

http://inciweb.nwcg.gov/

[EE_]

29,000 firefighters now and more coming from Australia and New Zealand


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIO3WSgr-l4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsOaFd8niH0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc_MN8AxbWk

[Serpo]

The governor has requested President Obama declare a federal emergency.

l (http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2015/08/19/3-firefighters-killed-in-wa-wildfire.html)

Obama is a federal emergency.....

[Horn]

Obama is a federal emergency.....

Wonder if he gets bonus hazard pay?

The bigger the fire, the bigger the bonus, the longer the hours.

[boogietillyapuke]

We burn shit down here in Flor-duh.

We spend all winter long doing "controlled burns" on state controlled lands. We also try to burn those lands every 3years to alleviate the undergrowth. We also use bulldozers to fight fires and continue to widen fire lines until they're totally contained. No pick and shovel crap here.

Wildfires aren't fought to put them out like a structural fire(house), only to containment.

[mick silver]

back up

[hoarder]

Just had the wierdest ting happen. Radar showed rain over my area, but there was none. I went in the house for a while and when I went back outside, there were ashes covering everything. They looked like burned fir needles about 5/8" long. I don't know of any fires within 40 miles. WTF?

[Dogman]

Depending on weather, winds, and how high and light the ash is, it could very easily travel hundreds of mile's!

Big fires can create tremendous up drafts!

Just a thought!

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