Vegan bodybuilders

[Serpo]

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Muscle without the meat: Barny du Plessis had a successful 20-year body-building career and almost retired...but turning vegan has seen his body gain even more weight and he's still competing











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[Ponce]

And probably as much air in his brain...nawwwwwwwww I'd rather be the dumb Cuban.

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[Neuro]

Here is another one that built amazing muscles from just eating a vegan diet...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/db/Taureau_charolais_au_pré.jpg

[ximmy]

lol

All kangaroos are herbivores, which means they eat only plants, not meat.

http://www.shockmansion.com/wp-content/myimages/2014/02/tyjtj.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEXnGkk-HPk

[Shami-Amourae]

Serpo:

Are humans...

A.) Herbivores
B.) Omnivores
C.) Carnivores

[Serpo]

Thats basically your own choice if you ask me , why ........


we all have the .....freedom of choice......

ps I refuse to do multiable choice .......basically a dumming down technique.....

[Neuro]

Serpo:

Are humans...

A.) Herbivores
B.) Omnivores
C.) Carnivores
Humans are Omnivores, generally, but traditionally eskimoes are almost entirely carnivore, and South Indians are almost entirely vegan. I think the higher the latitude you originate from, the more genetic adapted to eating meat you are. North European ancestors wouldn't have survived to create your genome if they didn't thrive on meat!

[Serpo]

Good answer Neuro

like most of India is vegetarian where as Maori people or Polynesians are designed to eat mainly meat/seafood and have trouble eating carbs ect, leads to health problems.
Some of my (part)Maori friends informed me of this......

[BrewTech]

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Muscle without the meat: Barny du Plessis had a successful 20-year body-building career and almost retired...but turning vegan has seen his body gain even more weight and he's still competing











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LOL... I guess steroids don't count as meat...

and yes, that dude is on steroids.

[singular_me]

no diet is set in stone for anybody.... hereditary issues have all been proven wrong. DNA has nothing to do but RNA... what has worked for cavemen is no longer applicable.

just choose the one you emotionally feel more in sync with... mine is 85% vegetarian/vegan and am doing fine. I can go 3 months or so without feeling any need for meat/fish. There is a reason why spiritual ascended masters have always been purely vegetarian/vegan. because they function on higher bodily vibrations that do not need meat. The more meat the lower are those vibrations.

imposing meat on everybody is indoctrination for mega cattle farms, and all for profits

DNA = victimization, law of the fittest is darwinian is a deception that has led the world to the brink. (atheistic)

RNA = emotions (perception of the environment) encode DNA, epigentics is about to take over, merging of spirituality and biology. Emotions are esoteric in nature. Epigenetic proves the cell is conscious.


RNA discoveries and epigenetics, DNA not controlling biology but the environment, DNA dogma is big pharma business.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GAduIk94_0


darwin as another Modern-day ‘science’ demanding absolute obedience and conformity to industry claims
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?84816-Modern-day-%91science%92-demands-absolute-obedience-and-conformity

[Neuro]

Hereditary issues haven't been proven wrong. Chinese people are generally lactose intolerant (98-99%), while Northern Europeans aren't (a lot of Northern Europeans have been led to believe they are though).

Most of the spiritual masters you subscribe to is/were Indian, and therefor vegetarian, cause there DNA is consistent with an environment where fresh fruit and vegetables are abundant all year. The Indian body type wouldn't be thriving on a diet where a large part of the energy is derived from meat. Europeans do however!

[singular_me]

epigentics is taking over.... since epigenetic proves DNA theories more than 50% (70% is more likely) WRONG... such theories are no longer DOGMAS.

listen to bruce lipton.... he mentions a very mainstream study whose conclusions are obvious. When I get a chance I will post it again.

moreover, if people have different diet depending on their geographical location, the environment is key, not the DNA.

I was in sri lanka for 6 months or so and immediately adapt my diet to the local and very spicy cuisine. I have never been sick... unlike many other tourists who couldnt do without their 'european/aussie/american/kiwi" cuisine (they suffered from diarrhea)

[Neuro]

epigentics is taking over.... since epigenetic proves DNA theories more than 50% (70% is more likely) WRONG... such theories are no longer DOGMAS.

listen to bruce lipton.... he mentions a very mainstream study whose conclusions are obvious. When I get a chance I will post it again.
The age old nature vs nurture debate. Yeah I would put it at 50-50. But still you can't train Chimps to build a car. Every human on this planet can survive on a completely vegan diet, just like every human can live on a 100% animal based diet. Most would be somewhere in between for ideal, which would vary depending on where you're from, your genetic make-up, sure you can change that balance, somewhat over time, by epigenetic drift. It makes you more adaptable, and your off-spring can inherit those traits too.

Bruce Lipton is an interesting guy. He came and did a guest-lecture, when I studied chiropractic around 1997, many of the things he say there is a lot of truth in it, he has a good understanding of biology, and the "philosophy" of life, but he has a tendency to jump to a bit far-reaching conclusions, but he is definetely inspiring!

I think it was from Bruce Lipton that I first heard about the study on the babies and later their children of the Dutch famine at the end of WWII...

[Dogman]

The age old nature vs nurture debate. Yeah I would put it at 50-50. But still you can't train Chimps to build a car. Every human on this planet can survive on a completely vegan diet, just like every human can live on a 100% animal based diet. Most would be somewhere in between for ideal, which would vary depending on where you're from, your genetic make-up, sure you can change that balance, somewhat over time, by epigenetic drift. It makes you more adaptable, and your off-spring can inherit those traits too.

Bruce Lipton is an interesting guy. He came and did a guest-lecture, when I studied chiropractic around 1997, many of the things he say there is a lot of truth in it, he has a good understanding of biology, and the "philosophy" of life, but he has a tendency to jump to a bit far-reaching conclusions, but he is definetely inspiring!

I think it was from Bruce Lipton that I first heard about the study on the babies and later their children of the Dutch famine at the end of WWII... In many ways you are very right.

The people of the far north above the arctic circle really can not grow veg's, back in the day. So they lived on meat and the fat of the critters that lived in the area.

And between the meat and fat it seems that everything that the human body needed was there, all the vitamins needed was in their diets. In the whale/seals plus what ever else they could chase down.

Historically, there are very few to none, peoples that have lived on pure veg diets all their life's , it seems there is always some form of animal protein/element in their diets to remain healthy.

Tho today because of research into what is in foods and what the human body needs, a pure veg diet probably can work as long as there are ether extracts or supplements that can be taken to provide what those veg's can not provide.

But it also has to be said, unlike today with the science and markets , back in the day people lived on what could/would grow locally and only the well off could afford treats or exotic foods from out of the region.

[milehi]

In many ways you are very right.

The people of the far north above the arctic circle really can not grow veg's, back in the day. So they lived on meat and the fat of the critters that lived in the area.

And between the meat and fat it seems that everything that the human body needed was there, all the vitamins needed was in their diets. In the whale/seals plus what ever else they could chase down.

Historically, there are very few to none, peoples that have lived on pure veg diets all their life's , it seems there is always some form of animal protein/element in their diets to remain healthy.

Tho today because of research into what is in foods and what the human body needs, a pure veg diet probably can work as long as there are ether extracts or supplements that can be taken to provide what those veg's can not provide.

But it also has to be said, unlike today with the science and markets , back in the day people lived on what could/would grow locally and only the well off could afford treats or exotic foods from out of the region.

In Iceland, outside the capital, they eat everything from the sea, and sheep, horse, whale and root vegetables. They grow alot of tomatoes in greenhouses. I also think booze is a food group there.

[milehi]

Hereditary issues haven't been proven wrong. Chinese people are generally lactose intolerant (98-99%), while Northern Europeans aren't (a lot of Northern Europeans have been led to believe they are though).

Most of the spiritual masters you subscribe to is/were Indian, and therefor vegetarian, cause there DNA is consistent with an environment where fresh fruit and vegetables are abundant all year. The Indian body type wouldn't be thriving on a diet where a large part of the energy is derived from meat. Europeans do however!

is that American Indian or customer service Indian?

[Dogman]

In Iceland, outside the capital, they eat everything from the sea, and sheep, horse, whale and root vegetables. They grow alot of tomatoes in greenhouses. I also think booze is a food group there.


Yep I bet !

But the original peoples, Inuit's/Eskimo's most of them did not grow anything! They harvested from the sea and critters that walked the land for their dietary needs.

And I suspect for the larger worlds cultures booze IS a major food group!

Back in the day for lunch there were many a day that a "Beer" sandwich was the order of the day ! ;)

[milehi]

It's lunchtime here lol.

[Neuro]

is a deception that has led the world to the brink. (atheistic)

RNA = emotions (perception of the environment) encode DNA, epigentics is about to take over, merging of spirituality and biology. Emotions are esoteric in nature. Epigenetic proves the cell is conscious.
your such a fanatic fundamentalist, without any real understanding of what you are talking about.

[Dogman]

opponents do attract !

LMAO !

[singular_me]

have you "listened" to the video ???

darwin is DEAD



The age old nature vs nurture debate. Yeah I would put it at 50-50. But still you can't train Chimps to build a car. Every human on this planet can survive on a completely vegan diet, just like every human can live on a 100% animal based diet. Most would be somewhere in between for ideal, which would vary depending on where you're from, your genetic make-up, sure you can change that balance, somewhat over time, by epigenetic drift. It makes you more adaptable, and your off-spring can inherit those traits too.

Bruce Lipton is an interesting guy. He came and did a guest-lecture, when I studied chiropractic around 1997, many of the things he say there is a lot of truth in it, he has a good understanding of biology, and the "philosophy" of life, but he has a tendency to jump to a bit far-reaching conclusions, but he is definetely inspiring!

I think it was from Bruce Lipton that I first heard about the study on the babies and later their children of the Dutch famine at the end of WWII...

[Dogman]

International dating service......GSUS is a multifunction forum..

Wife #2 candidate tho wife #1 will still rule the roost..

For the budding caliphate!

Lmfao !

Sorry, ?? or not, but could not resist !

[Neuro]

have you "listen" to the video ???

darwin is DEAD
Yeah I heard he passed some time ago. Did they tell you in the video?

[boogietillyapuke]

;)
In Iceland, outside the capital, they eat everything from the sea, and sheep, horse, whale and root vegetables. They grow alot of tomatoes in greenhouses. I also think booze is a food group there.

Having spent a total of a year up there, I can positively confirm that it is indeed a food group or used to be back in the 70's.

There's also a girl behind every tree too. (Snicker).

[Dogman]

;)

Having spent a total of a year up there, I can positively confirm that it is indeed a food group or used to be back in the 70's.

There's also a girl behind every tree too. (Snicker).

The only problem is Iceland is tree rich, but ice and rock poor with a few scary volcano's thrown in for a grin....!

Snicker!

[gunDriller]

;)

Having spent a total of a year up there, I can positively confirm that it is indeed a food group or used to be back in the 70's.

There's also a girl behind every tree too. (Snicker).

is that a Bush Size joke ? :)

[singular_me]

theory of the fittest is exactly which propelling the NWO and its wall street/corporate followers... they have shaped the current "perception" of the world that is killing mankind... killed by a perception ???

to get out of this mess, the perception must change.... and thus has nothing to do with the DNA. There are as many gullible whites as blacks. But if succeeding, humanity can get rid of monsanto and co.... which in turn will improve the DNA.

BELIEF/PERCEPTION shaped by the environment--->RNA->DNA

what is terrific is that epigenetic has confirmed that the mind can alter genes.... nothing is set in stone.

Darwin RIP



Yeah I heard he passed some time ago. Did they tell you in the video?

[Neuro]

theory of the fittest is exactly which propelling the NWO and its wall street/corporate followers... they have shaped the current "perception" of the world that is killing mankind... killed by a perception ???

to get out of this mess, the perception must change.... and thus has nothing to do with the DNA. There are as many gullible whites as blacks. But if succeeding, humanity can get rid of monsanto and co.... which in turn will improve the DNA.

BELIEF/PERCEPTION shaped by the environment--->RNA->DNA

what is terrific is that epigenetic has confirmed that the mind can alter genes.... nothing is set in stone.

Darwin RIP
Mind and many other environmental factors alters the EXPRESSION of genes, and that alteration can even be passed on to your offspring. Darwin didn't have a clue about DNA, but his observation, survival of the fittest still holds true. If you don't live to pass on your genes and epigenetic data to your offspring, and theirs in turn, you lost in the game!

[singular_me]

will the DNA save humans when a giant comet hit earth?

right, genes do not alter by themselves... genes do not control biology. I agree with Lipton.

DNA RIP


Mind and many other environmental factors alters the EXPRESSION of genes, and that alteration can even be passed on to your offspring. Darwin didn't have a clue about DNA, but his observation, survival of the fittest still holds true. If you don't live to pass on your genes and epigenetic data to your offspring, and theirs in turn, you lost in the game!

[singular_me]

like I promised several postings ago... here is the study. Sure, then the tirade against epigenetics because the atheist academia wont acknowledge the truth.... big pharma must survive. The only confusion springs from the fact that they wont admit they are wrong.

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Personal genomes: The case of the missing heritability

When scientists opened up the human genome, they expected to find the genetic components of common traits and diseases. But they were nowhere to be seen. Brendan Maher shines a light on six places where the missing loot could be stashed away.

................... It's no surprise that genetics is more complicated than one gene, one phenotype, or even several genes, one phenotype, but it's humbling to realize how much more complex things are starting to look. In a now classic study10, Kruglyak and his colleagues found that expression of most yeast genes is controlled by several variants, often more than five. To fill in all the heritability blanks, researchers may need better and more varied models of the entire network of genes and regulatory sequences, and of how they act together to produce a phenotype. At some point this process starts to look more like systems biology, and researchers are already applying systems methods to humans and other organisms (see page 26). "What we're learning from these studies is that we need to think about the more complex of the complex models rather than the more simple of the complex models," Kruglyak says. .......


But there are lingering doubts about how precisely environment has been accounted for in heritability studies. Adverse experiences in utero could lead to lifelong health disparities, according to David Barker from the University of Southampton, UK, and yet a shared womb is an aspect of the environment that would not be factored into such studies. "Heritability estimates are basically what clusters in families, and environment clusters in families," says Manolio.

Epigenetics, changes in gene expression that are inherited but not caused by changes in genetic sequence, confuses things further. Feeding a mouse a certain diet, for example, can alter the coat colour not only in its children, but also in its children's children11. Here, the expression of a coat-colour gene is controlled by a type of DNA modification called methylation, but it's not completely clear how that methylation pattern is 'remembered' by the next generation. The idea that grandma's environment could affect future generations is controversial — and such effects would have been included in the heritability normally attributed to genes..................
http://www.nature.com/news/2008/081105/full/456018a.html

[Neuro]

will the DNA save humans when a giant comet hit earth?

right, genes do not alter by themselves... genes do not control biology. I agree with Lipton.

DNA RIP
You can test that, with an experiment... Just take out the nucleus (this is the structure of the cell that contains the DNA) of a fertilized egg cell, implant the egg in a uterus of a woman of fertile age, wait 9 months... Compare it with the result you get if you leave the nucleus inside the egg.

No effect on biology?

;D

I'm pretty sure Lipton didn't say anything this stupid!