Personal attack vs. not a personal attack.

[Hitch]

This forum is a riot. You absolutely have to have a sense of humor to survive here.

Personal attack, resulting in a ban, post #6 in this thread:

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?84897-David-Icke-We-Are-Slaves-To-A-Reptilian-Brain-System

NOT a personal attack...post #35 in this thread:

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?84943-Organic-foods-cause-autism!/page4

[aeondaze]

You failed completely to see the personal attack by your beloved serpo you one eyed goon.

But hey, I never really thought your judgement was very good anyhow...thank god you no longer carry a badge.

[Hitch]

You failed completely to see the personal attack by your beloved serpo you one eyed goon.

But hey, I never really thought your judgement was very good anyhow...thank god you no longer carry a badge.

Now THIS is a personal attack!

I will respond in kind.

Stick a kiwi up your ass, faggot!

[aeondaze]

Now THIS is a personal attack!

I will respond in kind.

Stick a kiwi up your ass, faggot!

hahaha, showing your true colors again hey? :rolleyes:

C'mon tough guy, is that all ya got, lol ;D

[Hitch]

hahaha, showing your true colors again hey? :rolleyes:

C'mon tough guy, is that all ya got, lol ;D

I'm just having some fun. Don't take it personally. :)

But, there is a point there. You can personally attack folks, maybe so can I and a some others, but if our opinions don't fit the mold here....banned.

[mick silver]

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/UWQoK506xkQ/hqdefault.jpg

[aeondaze]

I'm just having some fun. Don't take it personally. :)

But, there is a point there. You can personally attack folks, maybe so can I and , some others, but if our opinions don't fit the mold here....banned.

As I said, you completely missed the personal attack serpo made against myself before my comments, you just gleaned right over that one didn't you.

Your opinion is completely biased and therefore worthless as a comparison.

You're playing favourites there dude. Its not a level playing field at all, yet you have tried to present it as such, thats pretty flaky by any measure.

[mick silver]

http://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=JN.%2bJILQ9GAZgxcmc1KbgDjmg&pid=15.1

[aeondaze]

http://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=JN.%2bJILQ9GAZgxcmc1KbgDjmg&pid=15.1

"Don't bullshit on my leg and tell me its a brown kitten"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0eI3p2VsmE

[Santa]

Your opinion is completely biased and therefore worthless as a comparison.



Funny you closed your thread about vaccinations... after Serpo and others went about wiping the floor with your graph.

[aeondaze]

Funny you closed your thread about vaccinations... after Serpo and others went about wiping the floor with your graph.

Yet somehow you missed the part where they NEVER mentioned it, not ONCE.

http://cdn.lolcaption.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/dog-epic-fail-pictures-ball-catch-fail.jpg

Nice try, your skills of deduction are somewhat lacking though, but hey what should one expect from a delusional anti vaccer like yourself, haha

[Publico]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhJQp-q1Y1s

[Santa]

Yet somehow you missed the part where they NEVER mentioned it, not ONCE.

http://cdn.lolcaption.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/dog-epic-fail-pictures-ball-catch-fail.jpg



I didn't miss the part where you closed the thread because you were LOSING the argument. Haha.

[aeondaze]

I didn't miss the part where you closed the thread because you were LOSING the argument. Haha.

Ahaha, I guess you can't cure stupid. :p

http://usofarn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/f212fd68aeca509fcdbbb675e67ce9276b0d9fa965fa8bb586 5c167eccb8b1d9.jpg

[Santa]

Ahaha, I guess you can't cure stupid. :p

http://usofarn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/f212fd68aeca509fcdbbb675e67ce9276b0d9fa965fa8bb586 5c167eccb8b1d9.jpg

Yep, and here you are, once again LOSING the argument. :)

You can't win this "personal attack" argument by calling me stupid.

[ximmy]

aeondaze's reasoning, logic, and wit is like a 13 year old boy.

[madfranks]

Not every personal attack results in a ban. Only when things get out of control do I step in to lay down the ban hammer, but by now you should all know that I hardly ever bring the ban hammer to the table. Minor scuffles I just let go, and if it's more than that, most times I let things pass with a warning, and that's assuming I even see it at all. Many times I get PMs asking me why I'm not doing anything in a thread I've never even seen. Just cause I'm a mod doesn't mean I'm omnipotent.

[singular_me]

hey Hitch, glad to see that someone is speaking out there...

IOWNme has been a lot more corrosive than I and was never banned

7th has been mocked and bashed, whole threads dedicated to ridicule him, and nobody was banned

i have been attacked several times over the last 1 1/2 year (before that I was away for long period of time) and mods never intervened, not even give a warning to the poster.

we have/had a mod that stepped down after encouraging insults against me, and who turned a blind eye to a member sending me a virtual slap in the face. That member didnt get banned. The same member insulted me twice for almost no reason, he used to stalk me, and even the JQP asked him to tone it down... he didnt get banned neither of those days.

then we have another member posting regularly demeaning pictures, and he is well known for that, yet he always seem to get a pass.

and now for the very first time, I SERIOUSLY criticized CT and shami for saying that David Icke is a controlled opposition based on the fact that one of his videos didnt allow comment while I KNOW that most of his vids DO... both didnt even border to make a serious search. I am sick and tired and I showed it... so it cost me a temporary ban. I dont care.

I have received several messages from members in the past saying that if they didnt agree with me entirely that I was well behaved in my responses.

I recall that a long while ago, madfranks said that he wouldnt intervene because I had a thick skin... and slams me with a ban when for the very first time I showed that I was clearly upset. Perfection doesnt exist... all this why... because I am interacial, a woman, and have a provocative mindset ???

Good job madfranks, cultural marxism (bias) is alive and kicking, I tell ya







This forum is a riot. You absolutely have to have a sense of humor to survive here.

Personal attack, resulting in a ban, post #6 in this thread:

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?84897-David-Icke-We-Are-Slaves-To-A-Reptilian-Brain-System

NOT a personal attack...post #35 in this thread:

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?84943-Organic-foods-cause-autism!/page4

[Dogman]

This forum is unique in that the rules are lax, and most times seem non existent..

Tho it is not a bad thing, imo that if they are enforced they should be at least be applied fairly and consistent !

But the major question is ,

Where is the line?

Is it when the majority of membership gets pissed at one member, but does not break or only slightly bends the posted forum rules?

Or when a member attacks everyone on the forum, and then goes on and not only bends the forum rules but breaks them, which has a rich history here?

Imho, if a personal attack goes beyond one on one and involves family, etc! For me that is over the line.

Being a mod, is a thankless task, because it is dam if you do and dam if you do not!

But anyone here that has been here from the start, has seen how a forum with a dam near no rules open fistfights and very personal , personal attacks has effected us!

That some here still use the same play book, when they have any good answers , they push the personal attack button.

A vast majority of very real, and very good posters have decided to leave this place because they had their dignity deeply offended.

And I for one dam sure miss those people, they enriched us in so many ways sharing their real life's and wisdom, but some hard core types went after them with dreamed up crap or pounded them with stuff that no mater how they would answer did no good..

So they gave up.

In some ways maybe I am wrong posting my thoughts on this thread, but sometimes some viewpoints have to be said.

Said from one that has a few of his own wars here, with certain posters here.

But I can say, I do and never have done any personal attacked as deep nor offending as the ones I am thinking about.

I is who I is and have never tried to hide who I am, which is just a guy that has done a bunch of stuff in his life and when I can I try and share my knowledge and life experiences to help others.

And also is dam near neutral in my politics.

Dos Pesos !

[Shami-Amourae]

and now for the very first time, I SERIOUSLY criticized CT and shami for saying that David Icke is a controlled opposition based on the fact that one of his videos didnt allow comment while I KNOW that most of his vids DO... both didnt even border to make a serious search. I am sick and tired and I showed it... so it cost me a temporary ban. I dont care.


I don't know if Icke believes in what he says or not. I wouldn't be shocked if he really did. If he started talking about racial realism and looking directly at the Jews though he wouldn't be on Coast to Coast, Alex Jones, and so on. There would be massive protests at all of his events organized by the establishment, and he'd be thrown in jail for trumped up tax charges like David Duke was when he was sent to jail for overpaying his taxes by $6,000.

What I'm saying is if you really are challenging the powers that be, you'll see them come down on you hard and demonize you with every breath.


Welcome back by the way.

[singular_me]

ooops personal attack.... LOLOLOL

aeon, how you have escaped so many bans is beyond me.




Ahaha, I guess you can't cure stupid. :p

http://usofarn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/f212fd68aeca509fcdbbb675e67ce9276b0d9fa965fa8bb586 5c167eccb8b1d9.jpg

[Dogman]

Welcome back woman !

Stand your ground !

And be proud doing it, I may make fun and sometimes disagree with you, but woman you have balls...;D

And respect for you!

Again welcome back !

[Jewboo]

... all this why... because I am interracial, a woman, and have a provocative mindset...









https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBRNcdiQD78&feature=youtu.be











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[ximmy]

http://fi.somethingawful.com/safs/smilies/6/d/suspense.001.gif

Hi Dad! Did you do anything interesting today?

Love Ximmy

[Dogman]

Hi Dad! Did you do anything interesting today?

Love Ximmy

Oh crap!

The plot deepens, and is plausible !

Lmfao !

Peace!

Sent from my Nexus 7

[Hitch]

ooops personal attack.... LOLOLOL

aeon, how you have escaped so many bans is beyond me.

Welcome back Singular. Glad to see you didn't hold a grudge and leave the forum. Glad to see you've got thick skin, and a sense of humor, as well.

Dogman made a good point, we've lost a lot of good members over the years because they got upset.

[Dogman]

Hi Dad! Did you do anything interesting today?

Love Ximmy

Another page/chapter of the ongoing soap opera that is known as GSUS has been turned or opened !

Gots to love it !

;)

[Jewboo]

Hi Dad! Did you do anything interesting today?

Love Ximmy








https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWWZTWUbfLk



Hi Honey!

Yeah...just got back from the Crimson Trace dealer. The laser sight is ready for your .357 and expect Fed-Ex to deliver it this week.


Love Dad

[madfranks]

But the major question is ,

Where is the line?


There isn't a hard red line, everyone should know this by now! We are a rag-tag group of non-conformists, and while I do my best to perform the duties of a mod, perfection will not be found here! If you want a perfect mod to 100% consistently do the same thing all the time, then you need to find someone else. I am not on this forum 24/7 actively policing everything going on. I probably miss most of the fights here because I'm not involved in every thread. Inconsistency is all you get with me, and if that's not good enough, raise some money to have JQP hire a full time forum monitor to catalog and document everything that happens.

Singular, thank you for not taking my temp-ban of you personally; I didn't do it because I dislike you, I did it in my meager attempt to enforce the forum rules as best I can.

[Shami-Amourae]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWWZTWUbfLk



Hi Honey!

Yeah...just got back from the Crimson Trace dealer. The laser sight is ready for your .357 and expect Fed-Ex to deliver it this week.


Love Dad



I have one of those on one of my mini-revolvers, and it makes recoil far worse than it already is.

Actually I already posted about that:
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?71526-Crimson-Trace-Red-Dot-Laser&p=650429&viewfull=1#post650429

I personally wouldn't carry anything over a 38 Special load in one of those revolvers. The recoil is too intense for a 357 Magnum in a small gun.

Ximmy, look at my post. You may want to consider getting one of those glove add-ons to the grip (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000H6GZI8) to lower recoil and give you more to grab onto.

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/RA-5-med.jpg

[ximmy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWWZTWUbfLk



Hi Honey!

Yeah...just got back from the Crimson Trace dealer. The laser sight is ready for your .357 and expect Fed-Ex to deliver it this week.


Love Dad



Sweet, the gang and I are going to the mountains this weekend, I already told you about that. We are taking some firearms and if we have time will go shooting in the desert. Will enjoy the new sight. Thanks for getting me it so promptly. You are always so good to me.

Loves xoxo
Ximmy

[Jewboo]

I have one of those on one of my mini-revolvers, and it makes recoil far worse than it already is.

Actually I already posted about that:
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?71526-Crimson-Trace-Red-Dot-Laser&p=650429&viewfull=1#post650429

http://67.227.172.78/images/acu/large/ctc_LG-437.jpg

I have one on my Kahr P9 and it is great! Also has the factory night sights...

[Shami-Amourae]

I stick with Glocks as my carry guns and use the Crimson Trace grips on Gen 4s.

Sadly Gen 4 Glocks are banned in California.

[Jewboo]

I stick with Glocks as my carry guns and use the Crimson Trace grips on Gen 4s.



My Glock G19 is too bulky for conceal carry...my 9mm Kahr P9 is perfect.

[Shami-Amourae]

My Glock G19 is too bulky for conceal carry...my 9mm Kahr P9 is perfect.

I prefer the G19 personally. I think it's the best handgun ever made from my research/usage.

If you saw me with it on you'd never suspect I had it on. You just need a good holster and gun belt.

[Dogman]

If in true dark, with next to no vision available, the time taken to acquire a sight picture, may kill you, if you have to make a snap draw. If you can see a silhouette shoot imminently but try not to empty the magazine, for follow up shots and count your shots at that silhouette.

While your mind is occupied trying to align the sights takes a definite amount of time to do, and while doing that because your focus is more on the gun sights than your target...

Unless you practice so much that your actions are from muscle memory and no brain involved other knowing there is a true identified threat.

[Hitch]

If in true dark, with next to no vision available, the time taken to acquire a sight picture, may kill you, if you have to make a snap draw. If you can see a silhouette shoot imminently but try not to empty the magazine, for follow up shots and count your shots at that silhouette.

The problem with shooting in low visibility, is not identifying the person or silhouette. You could accidentally shoot the wrong person. It's good to train shooting while holding a flash light. There's different techniques and hand grips.

[Dogman]

The problem with shooting in low visibility, is not identifying the person or silhouette. You could accidentally shoot the wrong person. It's good to train shooting while holding a flash light. There's different techniques and hand grips.

I did say "A true identified threat" !

[Shami-Amourae]

If in true dark, with next to no vision available, the time taken to acquire a sight picture, may kill you, if you have to make a snap draw. If you can see a silhouette shoot imminently but try not to empty the magazine, for follow up shots and count your shots at that silhouette.

While your mind is occupied trying to align the sights takes a definite amount of time to do, and while doing that because your focus is more on the gun sights than your target...

Unless you practice so much that your actions are from muscle memory and no brain involved other knowing there is a true identified threat.

The Viridian holster + laser + light system has a setup where you program it to turn on the light, strobe, laser, or a combo of them when you unholster. It turns it off again when you holster.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpxAOESvWaM

[Jewboo]

I prefer the G19 personally. I think it's the best handgun ever made from my research/usage.

If you saw me with it on you'd never suspect I had it on. You just need a good holster and gun belt.

http://www.kahr.com/getDynamicImage.aspx?path=DeSantis-Nemesis-Pocket-Holster1486.jpg&Height=175

Not in our recent 100 degree Idaho temps. My 9mm Kahr hides in a front pocket holster in my cargo shorts while wearing a tee shirt.

[Shami-Amourae]

The problem with shooting in low visibility, is not identifying the person or silhouette. You could accidentally shoot the wrong person. It's good to train shooting while holding a flash light. There's different techniques and hand grips.


FBI carry for me.

[Shami-Amourae]

http://www.kahr.com/getDynamicImage.aspx?path=DeSantis-Nemesis-Pocket-Holster1486.jpg&Height=175

Not in our recent 100 degree Idaho temps. My 9mm Kahr hides in a front pocket holster in my cargo pants while wearing a tee shirt.


I carried it all day fishing in 100 degree weather with no issues.

[Dogman]

I do have to admit , I have never had or used any optical/lazer on any of my handguns, except one gun way back.

Not the guns fault, but the time between shooting/using was long and the battery's gave out because of my not shooting the gun was longer than the battery lfes.

Besides I am old school, I try and eliminate anything that required battery's! I learned with iron sights or old school un powered scopes and for me anything battery powered in things as basic guns for defensive use that may not see the light of day for .....?

And then suddenly I need to count on it...

Old school all the way..!

[Shami-Amourae]

I do have to admit , I have never had or used any optical/lazer on any of my handguns, except one gun way back.

Not the guns fault, but the time between shooting/using was long and the battery's gave out because of my not shooting the gun was longer than the battery lfes.

Besides I am old school, I try and eliminate anything that required battery's! I learned with iron sights or old school un powered scopes and for me anything battery powered in things as basic guns for defensive use that may not see the light of day for .....?

And then suddenly I need to count on it...

Old school all the way..!


A lot of people are already moving to red dots on their pistols. That is the big thing that is developing.

http://thefirearmreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/reddot.jpg

Not saying I endorse the idea though. I'm unsure if it's viable. I like regular night sights.

[Dogman]

A lot of people are already moving to red dots on their pistols. That is the big thing that is developing.

http://thefirearmreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/reddot.jpg

Not saying I endorse the idea though. I'm unsure if it's viable. I like regular night sights. I have an old red dot, that is the one I was referring about..

The dam thing needs a battery and the model I have it is so easy to accidentally turn it on.

Prefer old school, never want to count on anything that eats battery's or electronic in basic guns, if my life depended on it,

Training is everything..And mine does not include anything electronic.

To each their own..!

[singular_me]

book, you cut the crap... go back to the low IQ vs high IQ savagery thread or maybe should I bring it back to life to show your aggressive behavior backed by a mod?








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[Serpo]

Talk about thread derail

[Dogman]

Snafu !

;)

[singular_me]

you closed the thread after 4 pages when seeing that you didnt have any success but then insulted me when I closed the pyramid thread after 100p seeing that everything had been said.

organic food causes autism.... LOL



Yet somehow you missed the part where they NEVER mentioned it, not ONCE.........

Nice try, your skills of deduction are somewhat lacking though, but hey what should one expect from a delusional anti vaccer like yourself, haha

[Horn]

aeondaze's reasoning, logic, and wit is like a 13 year old boy.

Is 10, most kids see the attached cartoon and know the meaning by 13.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/000-1007162622-pot_kettle.jpg

[Serpo]

you closed the thread after 4 pages when seeing that you didnt have any success but then insulted me when I closed the pyramid thread after 100p seeing that everything had been said.

organic food causes autism.... LOL


With no link to his charts

[Serpo]

Is 10, most kids see the attached cartoon and know the meaning by 13.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/000-1007162622-pot_kettle.jpg


8....

[Jewboo]

Not the guns fault, but the time between shooting/using was long and the battery's gave out because of my not shooting the gun was longer than the battery lfes.



http://www.stu-offroad.com/firearms/lg411/lg411-3.jpg

http://www.gunblast.com/images/CrimsonTrace-LCP/DSC05188.jpg

Crimson Trace battery shelf life is over five years. Ximmy will get them for free:

http://www.crimsontrace.com/uploads/fbfl_content_image.jpg

[Santa]

http://www.stu-offroad.com/firearms/lg411/lg411-3.jpg

http://www.gunblast.com/images/CrimsonTrace-LCP/DSC05188.jpg

Crimson Trace battery shelf life is over five years. Ximmy will get them for free:

http://www.crimsontrace.com/uploads/fbfl_content_image.jpg


Hey, no fair. That's nepotism. :(

[mick silver]

just got my free Crimson Trace battery

[aeondaze]

you closed the thread after 4 pages when seeing that you didnt have any success but then insulted me when I closed the pyramid thread after 100p seeing that everything had been said.

organic food causes autism.... LOL

I'd say it was a success. It proved beyond any reason of doubt that the anti vaccine crowd are a bunch of maniacs compelled by their irrationality to violently oppose anything that doesn't conform to their illogical beliefs.

Never ONCE was the OP addressed in any fashion, instead serpo resorted to spamming the thread with off topic posts, thats the reason the thread was closed.

Thats is completely different to when the both of you close threads, you close them because you can't handle the defeat a rational argument delivers you. Never once did ANY poster address the graph in the OP and spamming threads with OT posts is a breach of the forums rules.

You can cry all you want and make as many false claims as you want but not one person EVER actually addressed the actual thread subject, thats hardly a victory and if you think it is, thats more proof of your insane thought processes.

[Serpo]

I'd say it was a success. It proved beyond any reason of doubt that the anti vaccine crowd are a bunch of maniacs compelled by their irrationality to violently oppose anything that doesn't conform to their illogical beliefs.

Never ONCE was the OP addressed in any fashion, i Never once did ANY poster address the graph in the OP and spamming threads with OT posts is a breach of the forums rules.





Breach ...hahahah,what rules...........

Your so called OP had no links so it stinks......................

[aeondaze]

With no link to his charts

This is rich, the graph itself has the SOURCE of the information on it. No wonder you live in a lala land, you're completely incapable of gleaning the most rudimentary information off of a source.

How ignorant can you get! haha :rolleyes:

[aeondaze]

Breach ...hahahah,what rules...........

Your so called OP had no links so it stinks......................


Honestly you have no idea whatsoever, I'm surprised you managed to actually raise kids, poor things

[mick silver]

What did crime do to get banned this time

[aeondaze]

What did crime do to get banned this time

CT got 10 days, SM got 3!

Hahaha :D

[singular_me]

so now anti vaccines folks are insane... yes we all know you are a scientist feeling all powerful in his small lab cubicle and waiting for his paycheck every month.

you proved absolutely nothing. organic food consumption is increasing because people become more aware/wary of the conventional food chain... so your chart/graph is a manipulation of statistics, period.


Neurologist Warns Aluminum in Chemtrails Could Cause “Explosive Increase in Neurodegenerative Diseases”
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/neurologist-warns-aluminum-in-chemtrails-could-cause-explosive-increase-in-neurodegenerative-diseases-2/

22 Medical Studies That Show Vaccines Can Cause Autism
http://www.activistpost.com/2013/09/22-medical-studies-that-show-vaccines.html



I'd say it was a success. It proved beyond any reason of doubt that the anti vaccine crowd are a bunch of maniacs compelled by their irrationality to violently oppose anything that doesn't conform to their illogical beliefs.

Never ONCE was the OP addressed in any fashion, instead serpo resorted to spamming the thread with off topic posts, thats the reason the thread was closed.

Thats is completely different to when the both of you close threads, you close them because you can't handle the defeat a rational argument delivers you. Never once did ANY poster address the graph in the OP and spamming threads with OT posts is a breach of the forums rules.

You can cry all you want and make as many false claims as you want but not one person EVER actually addressed the actual thread subject, thats hardly a victory and if you think it is, thats more proof of your insane thought processes.

[Dogman]

Caution !

Sharp turn in thread direction !

Pop!

Pulled right out from the blue !

Lmao !

;)


Classic !

[aeondaze]

so now anti vaccines folks are insane... yes we all know you are a scientist feeling all powerful in his small lab cubicle and waiting for his paycheck every month.

YES!

Scientist have to eat to, I know you'd like to kill them all.

Your anti vax propaganda isn't worth a pinch of shit, feel free to address this concern in a NEW thread....see you there, lol.

PS It must have been horrible suffering the indignity of being banned!

[mick silver]

did crimethink call someone a name

[singular_me]

it is not because you have escaped several bans that you shouldnt think that one is not lurking, trust me.

bring up more statistic manipulations to make your point




YES!

Scientist have to eat to, I know you'd like to kill them all.

Your anti vax propaganda isn't worth a pinch of shit, feel free to address this concern in a NEW thread....see you there, lol.

PS It must have been horrible suffering the indignity of being banned!

[mick silver]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-QQ7i_vRV45U/UblUoLIZ-mI/AAAAAAAAAM4/sgo0X8bXR4U/s1600/Temperate+Rainforest.jpg

[mick silver]

Psychology is harder because it depends on subjective behavior observations. How do you quantify fear, pain, or affection? Their presence and intensity can vary depending who feels them

[aeondaze]

it is not because you have escaped several bans that you shouldnt think that one is not lurking, trust me.

bring up more statistic manipulations to make your point

Hey, don't start getting nasty, I know its hard because you got banned.:D

[ximmy]

I'd say it was a success. It proved beyond any reason of doubt that the anti vaccine crowd are a bunch of maniacs compelled by their irrationality to violently oppose anything that doesn't conform to their illogical beliefs.

Never ONCE was the OP addressed in any fashion, instead serpo resorted to spamming the thread with off topic posts, thats the reason the thread was closed.

Thats is completely different to when the both of you close threads, you close them because you can't handle the defeat a rational argument delivers you. Never once did ANY poster address the graph in the OP and spamming threads with OT posts is a breach of the forums rules.

You can cry all you want and make as many false claims as you want but not one person EVER actually addressed the actual thread subject, thats hardly a victory and if you think it is, thats more proof of your insane thought processes.

I posted the origin of the chart in the thread almost immediately after it was created. Any 14 year old could see it was fake.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?84943-Organic-foods-cause-autism!&p=790114&viewfull=1#post790114

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/19bm94ui3v59fpng.png

Here for spreading far and wide is a graphical reminder of the important distinction between correlation and causation.
Redditor Jasonp55 writes (http://www.reddit.com/r/skeptic/comments/14qbn9/rskeptic_i_was_practicing_graphpad_and_i_think_i/) that he was practicing Graph Pad when he produced the chart above and discovered the "real" cause of autism: organic food.
His tongue is obviously planted firmly in his cheek here, but the chart is nonetheless a simple and compelling example of how susceptible we can be to logical fallacies, cognitive biases (http://io9.com/5974468/the-most-common-cognitive-biases-that-prevent-you-from-being-rational), and extracting what we believe to be meaningful information (http://io9.com/5953993/what-makes-us-see-jesus-in-a-taco-or-a-human-face-on-mars) from insignificant or coincidental data. As Cory Doctorow notes over at Boing Boing (http://boingboing.net/2013/01/01/correlation-between-autism-dia.html), "this a potentially useful chart for discussing this issue with friends who won't vaccinate themselves and their kids."

[aeondaze]

I posted the origin of the chart in the thread almost immediately after it was created. Any 14 year old could see it was fake.

You posted a chart? Big deal, the chart had already been posted, it was no fake.

I don't think you really understand what fake is, its a genuine graph representing a correlation. Why is this "fake" yet your beloved graph that purports to show that an increase in austism is caused by vaccination isn't?

If you were genuine you would answer this, but mostly you're posts are nothing more then smart arse retorts with no clout, so I doubt you actually can.

;)

[Dogman]

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[ximmy]

Here's the fake chart for everyone to see, the one aeondaze used and does not want you to see.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthre...l=1#post790114 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?84943-Organic-foods-cause-autism%21&p=790114&viewfull=1#post790114)

Redditor Jasonp55 writes (http://www.reddit.com/r/skeptic/comments/14qbn9/rskeptic_i_was_practicing_graphpad_and_i_think_i/) that he was practicing Graph Pad when he produced the chart

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/19bm94ui3v59fpng.png

Here for spreading far and wide is a graphical reminder of the important distinction between correlation and causation.
Redditor Jasonp55 writes (http://www.reddit.com/r/skeptic/comments/14qbn9/rskeptic_i_was_practicing_graphpad_and_i_think_i/) that he was practicing Graph Pad when he produced the chart above and discovered the "real" cause of autism: organic food.
His tongue is obviously planted firmly in his cheek here, but the chart is nonetheless a simple and compelling example of how susceptible we can be to logical fallacies, cognitive biases (http://io9.com/5974468/the-most-common-cognitive-biases-that-prevent-you-from-being-rational), and extracting what we believe to be meaningful information (http://io9.com/5953993/what-makes-us-see-jesus-in-a-taco-or-a-human-face-on-mars) from insignificant or coincidental data. As Cory Doctorow notes over at Boing Boing (http://boingboing.net/2013/01/01/correlation-between-autism-dia.html), "this a potentially useful chart for discussing this issue with friends who won't vaccinate themselves and their kids."

[aeondaze]

haha, another unfounded claim, but what should one expect.

I'm happy for everyone to see the graph, its a continual reminder of how fallacious anti vaccine claims are in regards to the supposed CAUSAL link between vaccinations and Autism, lets see it again:

http://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/ScreenHunter_04-Jan.-07-23.11.jpg

Still can't answer the question though can you, lol :rolleyes:

WHY DO YOU REJECT THIS GRAPH BUT ACCEPT THE CORRELATION BETWEEN VACCINATIONS AND AUTISM AS BEING CAUSAL?

[ximmy]

Still can't answer the question though can you, lol :rolleyes:

WHY DO YOU REJECT THIS GRAPH BUT ACCEPT THE CORRELATION BETWEEN VACCINATIONS AND AUTISM AS BEING CAUSAL?

Why can't you admit you are using false information to prove your argument?

[aeondaze]

Why can't you admit you are using false information to prove your argument?

I honestly don't know what your talking about. :confused:

WHAT INFORMATION HERE IS FALSE?

Your making the claim, come and prove what you say is true, otherwise what your saying is this graph is as false as the graph which supposedly proves a causal link between vaccinations and Autism.

Its simple, yet you continue to try and defend the indefensible. You can't have your cake and eat it too dear ximmy.

Either you reject both of the graphs, or you explain why one is proof of causation while the other isn't?

http://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/ScreenHunter_04-Jan.-07-23.11.jpg

[ximmy]

I honestly don't know what your talking about. :confused:


Let me help you.

In these forums, you are like the Black Knight in Monty Python who, although losing both arms and legs in battle, continues to fight on. This is evident to almost all members on this forum. Yes, we understand it is hard for you to exercise introspection, know your limitations, have the wisdom to acquiesce to those who are more knowledgeable than yourself. This is a fundamental trait of maturity. When you exercise these disciplines the sky will be the limit of your growth and personal development.
Regards,
Ximmy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKhEw7nD9C4

[aeondaze]

Let me help you.

In these forums, you are like the Black Knight in Monty Python who, although losing both arms and legs in battle, continues to fight on. This is evident to almost all members on this forum. Yes, we understand it is hard for you to exercise introspection, know your limitations, have the wisdom to acquiesce to those who are more knowledgeable than yourself. This is a fundamental trait of maturity. When you exercise these disciplines the sky will be the limit of your growth and personal development.
Regards,
Ximmy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKhEw7nD9C4

Thats called projection ximmy, you're projecting your inability to defend your position onto an innocent party. Texbook example to be sure!

Look into the mirror ximmy...hahaha;D

http://www.theembodimentgoddess.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/mirrors_600.jpg

WHY DO YOU REJECT THE GRAPH SHOWING CORRELATION BETWEEN ORGANIC FOOD AND AUTISM, YET YOU ACCEPT VACCINATION AND AUTISM HAVE A CAUSAL LINK?

[aeondaze]

You only "thank" her jewboo because your a dirty old man jerking off over a dubious profile image dreaming of a lecherous encounter haha

Pretty sad really.

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/old-man-computer-2797283.jpg

[Jewboo]

haha, another unfounded claim, but what should one expect.

I'm happy for everyone to see the graph:

https://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljdjj32Yzp1qzmowao1_500.png

Still can't answer the question though can you, lol :rolleyes:

Oh. I see your point now Aeondaze. Maybe Ximmy can revisit this chart and see just how right you are.

You clearly win this argument Aeondaze.

http://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/images/emoticons/wink.gif Everybody tell Aeondaze how right his chart is...he wins this one.

[aeondaze]

Oh. I see your point now Aeondaze. Maybe Ximmy can revisit this chart and see just how right you are.

You clearly win this argument Aeondaze.

http://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/ScreenHunter_04-Jan.-07-23.11.jpg Everybody tell Aeondaze how right his chart is...he wins this one.


Glad you have the decency to concede!

Now please go put some pants on....

http://imnotdrunkimdoingresearch.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/old-man-no-pants.jpg

[Jewboo]

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100227224111/villains/images/9/97/Blackknight.png
Glad you have the decency to concede!





Yes. You clearly won Aeondaze.


:)

[aeondaze]

Yes. You clearly won Aeondaze.

yep, she is incapable of answering a very simple question, therefore thats the only logical conclusion one can make, I'm glad you can see that.

You can keep reiterating that ad infinitum, I don't mind.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/01_wk4/beckhamhorse260107_468x518.jpg

[Horn]

what is it about this place that it automatically generates a troll if there are none available?

[aeondaze]

Yea im with you there, how many crackpots have come out of the woodwork on this one?

Unbelievable!

[Jewboo]

https://articulatecritic.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/monty-python-and-the-holy-grail-monty-python-16538977-845-468.jpg
I'm glad you can see that. You can keep reiterating that ad infinitum, I don't mind.



Aeondaze The Victor.

Aeondaze The Victor.

Aeondaze The Victor.

Aeondaze The Victor.

Aeondaze The Victor.

Aeondaze The Victor.

Aeondaze The Victor.

Aeondaze The Victor...






:rolleyes: all hail Aeondaze The Victor

[ximmy]

https://articulatecritic.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/monty-python-and-the-holy-grail-monty-python-16538977-845-468.jpg

Aeondaze The Victor.

Aeondaze The Victor.

Aeondaze The Victor.

Aeondaze The Victor.

Aeondaze The Victor.

Aeondaze The Victor.

Aeondaze The Victor.

Aeondaze The Victor...






:rolleyes: all hail Aeondaze The Victor



I was going to use that one dad, but you beat me to it. :p

[Horn]

Muffin King of Vampires


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMwY49vTBk0

[ximmy]

Muffin King of Vampires


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwIrXOtZyvQ



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcj0II2bOPo

[Horn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WLRIPPa5Qw

[aeondaze]

Hahaha, ;D

HEAR YE, INTERNET GANBNGERS, I FEAR YE NOT! I PROUDLY STAND ALONE FOR WHAT I BELIEVE IN.

http://img09.deviantart.net/69f3/i/2009/168/0/c/proud_knight_by_mirachravaia.jpg

Unlike the rest of you who are oddly incapable of thinking for yourselves or standing on your own two feet and whos only tool is to denigrate a poster simply for standing up for what he believes....that called being a degenerate, I guess you know though.

STILL CAN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION THOUGH!

/crickets chirping/

[Jewboo]

Hahaha, ;D

HEAR YE, INTERNET GANBNGERS, I FEAR YE NOT! I PROUDLY STAND ALONE FOR WHAT I BELIEVE IN.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Sp_RCkvWIL4/VCD7inueH2I/AAAAAAABD6U/eA9I_TEdGL8/s1600/False-Perception.jpg



:rolleyes:

[aeondaze]

She still can't answer the question though....:rolleyes:

http://socialinphilly.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/woman-in-denial-1024x682.jpg

Obviously she has trouble standing on her own two feet, hence your farcical efforts.

[ximmy]

Hahaha, ;D

HEAR YE, INTERNET GANBNGERS, I FEAR YE NOT! I PROUDLY STAND ALONE FOR WHAT I BELIEVE IN.



http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0535/6917/products/persistencedemotivator.jpeg?v=1403276080

http://il6.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/5886590/thumb/1.jpg?i10c=img.resize%28height:160%29

[aeondaze]

Ran out of steam then hu...?

Still can't answer the question, I take that as an admission of defeat...

Run away then...hahaha

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1750051/images/o-GOAT-SNEEZE-SCARES-GIRL-facebook.jpg

[ximmy]

http://www.tylervigen.com/correlation_project/correlation_images/divorce-rate-in-maine_per-capita-consumption-of-margarine-us.png

http://www.tylervigen.com/correlation_project/correlation_images/age-of-miss-america_murders-by-steam-hot-vapours-and-hot-objects.png

http://tylervigen.com/correlation_project/correlation_images/total-revenue-generated-by-arcades-us_computer-science-doctorates-awarded-us.png



http://tylervigen.com/correlation_project/correlation_images/people-who-drowned-after-falling-out-of-a-fishing-boat_marriage-rate-in-kentucky.png

http://tylervigen.com/correlation_project/correlation_images/us-crude-oil-imports-from-norway_drivers-killed-in-collision-with-railway-train.png


http://tylervigen.com/correlation_project/correlation_images/letters-in-winning-word-of-scripps-national-spelling-bee_number-of-people-killed-by-venomous-spiders.png

[aeondaze]

Still can't explain why you don't believe this graph, yet think theres a causal link between vaccines and autism....

http://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/ScreenHunter_04-Jan.-07-23.11.jpg

But, but you said you'd walked away....yet here we are... I got ya, didn't I hahaha :rolleyes:

hypocrite

[Hitch]

Still can't explain why you don't believe this graph, yet think theres a causal link between vaccines and autism....

That chart is by far the worst attempt to try prove something so completely ridiculous, only a complete moron would believe this.

The price of food and autism rates, let's link them together. Did it ever occur to you that the price of food has skyrocketed in those 10 years. It is the AMOUNT of food consumed you need to measure, not the price. The price proves nothing. If anything the amount of organic food eaten has gone down from that chart, because the price has grown so high on organic foods, combined with high unemployment rates, people are eating less organic foods.

Sales in millions has gone up, but it buys less food!

Food for thought?

[Horn]

That chart is by far the worst attempt to try prove something so completely ridiculous, only a complete moron would believe this.

I thought you were familiar with Aeondazeman?

He dates back to 3000bc you know, nothing before that though.

Everything stops right there...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypEaGQb6dJk

[Serpo]

That chart is by far the worst attempt to try prove something so completely ridiculous, only a complete moron would believe this.

The price of food and autism rates, let's link them together. Did it ever occur to you that the price of food has skyrocketed in those 10 years. It is the AMOUNT of food consumed you need to measure, not the price. The price proves nothing. If anything the amount of organic food eaten has gone down from that chart, because the price has grown so high on organic foods, combined with high unemployment rates, people are eating less organic foods.

Sales in millions has gone up, but it buys less food!

Food for thought?


Organic food started in 1997 ...hahahaha what about forever before that , pre chem ferts....hahaha

[Serpo]

I think we have a member that has gone rogue.......................
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km3uhv6oVWg

[aeondaze]

I think we have a member that has gone rogue.......................
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km3uhv6oVWg


hahaha, one against how many? :rolleyes:

You must know your actions look like that of a spineless twit...can't stand on your own two legs can you?

Internet gangbanging, the sport of choice for gutless wonders....

http://hypervocal.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/daily-news-copy.jpg

[Serpo]

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Aeondaze between posts...........................

[aeondaze]

tsk tsk your projecting again...

remember, your the one who's daughter has marginalised you because of your psychotic and irrational beliefs about vaccinations.

Hey, I'm just telling it like it is....:rolleyes:

[ximmy]

So aeondaze closes another thread when he gets torn a new one... Typical

If he were an octopus he would not have any tentacles left.

http://orig15.deviantart.net/34e5/f/2010/238/6/c/day_04___black_knight_by_cajunpyro.png

[Dogman]

So aeondaze closes another thread when he gets torn a new one... Typical

If he were an octopus he would not have any tentacles left.



They regenerate quickly !

Hoot !

;)

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[Santa]

So aeondaze closes another thread when he gets torn a new one... Typical

If he were an octopus he would not have any tentacles left.



If he were a man he wouldn't have any testicles left.

[Dogman]

Ouch !

:(

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[Santa]

tsk tsk your projecting again...



This, from the princess of projection.

[Hitch]

What have you guys done to this thread?

[Dogman]

What have you guys done to this thread?

Typical GSUS Snafu !

Nothing new to see here!

Kindly move on or join in the fun!

;)



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[Hitch]

Typical GSUS Snafu !

Nothing new to see here!

Kindly move on or join in the fun!

;)



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Well, to stay on topic, calls for a personal attack.

Take your BS and piss off Dogman! :)

[Dogman]

Well, to stay on topic, calls for a personal attack.

Take your BS and piss off Dogman! :)

Up wind or down ? ;)

Lmao !

;)

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[Dogman]

Which brings to mind the old "Adage" !

"Its better to be pissed off, than to be pissed on) !

Hoot !

;D

[Santa]

What have you guys done to this thread?

It's not the antics in this thread that piss me off, it's the two towering threads that the Australian Larry Silverstein just pulled.

[Hitch]

It's not the antics in this thread that piss me off, it's the two towering threads that the Australian Larry Silverstein just pulled.

I hear you. I thought he was a kiwi though. I posted a good solid argument challenging the "graph" he posted, that everyone "ignored" according to him. My challenge was ignored. That whole post fell on deaf ears actually. I'm sure he will post again how nobody had a good argument against him.

Smart people listen, and learn. Less smart folks just hear what they want to hear.

[Dogman]

I hear you. I posted a good solid argument challenging the "graph" he posted, that everyone "ignored" according to him. My challenge was ignored. That whole post fell on deaf ears actually. I'm sure he will post again how nobody had a good argument against him.

Smart people listen, and learn. Less smart folks just hear what they want to hear.

Never fear amego!

The forums society of the "Most Excellent Coalition Of Bulldogs And Parolee's".


Has your concern's covered!

Just read the forum's new threads started!

It hurts laughing so much guys!

Hoot !

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[singular_me]

seems like a personal attack to me ;D


If he were a man he wouldn't have any testicles left.

[Hitch]

Never fear amego!

The forums society of the "Most Excellent Coalition Of Bulldogs And Parolee's".


Has your concern's covered!

Just read the forum's new threads started!

It hurts laughing so much guys!

Hoot !

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I will always be humbled. I will never doubt the amazing insight and knowledge this forum can dig up and explore.

Why I love this place. :)

[Dogman]

Very very small change !

Not even worth a blip!

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[singular_me]

another attack ;D
'

You only "thank" her jewboo because your a dirty old man jerking off over a dubious profile image dreaming of a lecherous encounter haha

Pretty sad really.

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/old-man-computer-2797283.jpg

[Dogman]

The woman is on a holy crusaded !

Tho I do not really blame her for it , seeing she got an undeserved ban for nothing.

Going by the rule that got her banned , 3/4 if not more members here have sinned far more greater than she has/did before or after hers just in the last few days..

;D

[Hitch]

The woman is on a holy crusaded !

Tho I do not really blame her for it , seeing she got an undeserved ban for nothing.

She's great at calling out BS for being BS. I respect that. Way to go, Singular.

[Dogman]

Maybe it takes one to know one?

LMFAO !

[singular_me]

actually, aeon closed a 2nd pro vaccine thread of his, while he is the one who cannot speak without insults.



Anyhow, since most of you are incapable of any cordial discourse on the subject, I'll close it and ADD to it whenever I get the time and I will DEBUNK the mess that you have carpet bombed out of pure ignorant and psychotic spite.

Its my thread, I'll do EXACTLY AS I LIKE...hahaha





She's great at calling out BS for being BS. I respect that. Way to go, Singular.

[Hitch]

actually, aeon closed a 2nd pro vaccine thread of his, while he is the one who cannot speak without insults.

He lost the argument and gave up. That's the only reason to close a thread. Pure frustration. You out classed him, period.

[Santa]

He lost the argument and gave up. That's the only reason to close a thread. Pure frustration. You out classed him, period.

Actually, it's worse than that. He's playing the entire forum in a flagrant power trip. To quote, "Anyhow, since most of you are incapable of any cordial discourse on the subject, I'll close it and ADD to it whenever I get the time and I will DEBUNK the mess that you have carpet bombed out of pure ignorant and psychotic spite."

Its my thread, I'll do EXACTLY AS I LIKE...hahaha

[Santa]

By the way, I'll be happy to get banned for calling him Caitlin Jenner. :)

[Dogman]

He lost the argument and gave up. That's the only reason to close a thread. Pure frustration. You out classed him, period.

Or playing the devils advocate!

Most if not all here responded with the minority view compared to what the 99% or so people's of this planet think!

Which that minority's views are based on nothing solid as far as what can be proven nor any evidence those viewpoints can hold water! Other than screaming web site's that are repeating what other screaming web sites are saying, that none have any solid material other maybe a published paper by maybe a single person!

Is there risk, yes!

But the numbers do suggest that for the majority they work! Some have stated that it would be better not to vaccinate and let nature take it's course to thin out the weaker!

Wonder what the parents of those children would think?

It has been common knowledge that vac,s do have risk's that a small percentage of the majority will have problems!

There is not a dam thing use or taken by us two legged critters that is completely safe for all!

Thoughts from a old fart in training, from past observation that really doesn't care what anyone here thinks!

Opinions are like butts, everyone has one and I have just stated mine!

Tho the theory of let the dice roll does have its points as far as overpopulation goes when it comes to be vaccinated or not when it comes to your kid's and loved ones!

Am out of this one!

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