Zeteticism (the dome)

[StreetsOfGold]

http://greensolipsist.com/science-and-philosophy/flat-earth-theory/

For those who have woken up the the Flat earth FACT, here is a study showing that there is (most likely) a DOME in place over the earth in which the lying deceivers of NASA and hollywood (< same bunch) have created a FANTASY world of "outer space" as a replacement


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhWYP1Gej2k

[Serpo]

I have a friend who is no dummy that believes in the flat earth , he said he spent 6 months looking at the evidence and banging his head against a brick wall until he finally succumbed and now believes this.

I am only new to this thing .....hahahaha ....


These are some of the vids he showed me ...............
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNVgzk3tbl0




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blQH711JRYs







http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2014/11/the-flat-earth-conspiracy.html

[ximmy]

Yeah, the belief in spherical planetoids is ridiculous... :rolleyes:

[Shami-Amourae]

Yeah, the belief in spherical planetoids is ridiculous... :rolleyes:

The Bible actually backs up the Flat Earth Theory. I don't get how you can be a Christian and believe the Earth is round.



The king seeing all the earth http://rationalwiki.org/w/images/thumb/4/49/Flat_Earth_versus_Spherical_Earth_%28Matthew_4_-_8_and_Luke_4_-_5%29%2C_for_RW.PNG/350px-Flat_Earth_versus_Spherical_Earth_%28Matthew_4_-_8_and_Luke_4_-_5%29%2C_for_RW.PNG

(http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/File:Flat_Earth_versus_Spherical_Earth_%28Matthew_ 4_-_8_and_Luke_4_-_5%29,_for_RW.PNG) Shows why you couldn't see all the kingdoms








"Daniel 4:10-11. In Daniel, the king “saw a tree of great height at the centre of the earth… reaching with its top to the sky and visible to the earth's farthest bounds.” Only with a flat Earth could a tall tree be visible from "the Earth's farthest bounds" — this is impossible on a spherical earth.

Jesus seeing all the kingdoms

Matthew 4:8: "Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world"
Luke 4:5: "And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time."

The earth is a circle

Isaiah 40:22: "He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in."


"Four Corners"

Isaiah 11:12 "And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth."
Revelation 7:1 "And after these things I saw four angels standing on four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree."

[ximmy]

We can find more information about the shape of the Earth in the Book of Isaiah:

"He will raise a banner for the nations and gather the exiles of Israel; he will assemble the scattered people of Judah from the four quarters of the earth."
— Isaiah 11:12 (NIV translation) A quarter, of course, means exactly one-fourth. In order for the Earth to have four quarters, it must be of a shape that is divisible into four pieces that are all exactly the same shape and size as one another, i.e. four congruent pieces. Not all quadrilateral shapes can be divided into four congruent pieces. In fact, the only kinds of quadrilateral shapes that can be divided into four congruent pieces are the following: http://www.rogermwilcox.com/square.gif http://www.rogermwilcox.com/rectangle.gif http://www.rogermwilcox.com/rhombus.gif http://www.rogermwilcox.com/parallelogram.gif http://www.rogermwilcox.com/trapezoid.gif http://www.rogermwilcox.com/trapezoid2.gif http://www.rogermwilcox.com/concave.gif
So, in light of Isaiah 11:12, the two Job passages, and Revelation 7:1, the possible shapes of the Earth are limited to:


A square
A non-square rectangle
A non-square rhombus
A non-rectangular, non-rhombic parallelogram
An isosceles trapezoid with three sides of identical length
An isosceles trapezoid with the shorter parallel side 1/3 the length of the longer parallel side
An isosceles concave quadrilateral

http://www.rogermwilcox.com/square_earth.html

[chad]

so, what happens when you reach the edge? you fall off? what's on the bottom side of the flat earth?

[Dogman]

Smoke and mirrors are used so no one can ever find the edge!

Hoot !

[ximmy]

so, what happens when you reach the edge? you fall off? what's on the bottom side of the flat earth?

There is ice on the edge chad... people think they are at the north or south pole but they are really at the edge.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/UYS9EuGWNAk/hqdefault.jpg

[osoab]

This has been brewing in my brain for a bit so I will run the numbers below.

Mississippi River runs for 2350 miles per ziopedia.

Mississippi River (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_River)



The Mississippi River is the chief river (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River) of the largest drainage system (http://javascript<strong></strong>:void(0)) on the North American (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_America) continent (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continent).[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_River#cite_note-3)[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_River#cite_note-USGSlongest-4) Flowing entirely in the United States (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_America) (though its drainage basin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drainage_basin) reaches into Canada), it rises in northern Minnesota (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota) and meanders (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meander) slowly southwards for 2,320 miles (3,730 km)[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_River#cite_note-USGSlongest-4) to the Mississippi River Delta (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_River_Delta) at the Gulf of Mexico (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Mexico)


The headwaters, 493 miles (793 km) from the source to Saint Anthony Falls (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Anthony_Falls) in Minneapolis, Minnesota (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minneapolis); and

Saint Anthony Falls has a mean elevation of 799ft above sea level and I will use 0ft above sea level for the end of the Mississippi.


Completed in 1963, the upper St. Anthony Falls dam is a horseshoe-shaped hydro-electric dam 93 feet (28 m) in height. The upper pool has a normal capacity of 3,150 acre feet (3,890,000 m3) and a normal level of 799 feet (244 m) above sea level

Visual Line of Sight Calculations dependent on Earth's Curvature (http://www.davidsenesac.com/Information/line_of_sight.html)




The Earth has a radius of approximately 3965 miles. Using the Pythagorean theorem, that calculates to an average curvature of 7.98 inches per mile or approximately 8 inches per mile. The distance to the horizon in miles from height of an observer is approximately equal to 1.23 times the square root of the height in feet. For example 1.23 times the square root of 8 divided by 12 equals 1 mile. Inversely given the horizon distance in miles, the height in feet required to be visible equals the distance in miles squared divided by 1.513. The second example above concerning the Moon rising over a distant range also requires some topographic map calculations using the tan trigonometric function. Thus if a peak rises up 1844 feet at a distance of 10.0 miles or 52,800 feet, it will form an angle of 2 degrees with a theoretical flat horizon. The tan is 1844/52800=0.0349 or 2 degrees. However due to the Earth's curvature, it would appear as though it was only 1778 feet tall with the lowest 66 feet below the horizon.

So about an 8" drop per mile.

2350 x 8" = 18,800" = 1566.667'

So we will use a 1566' drop. So how does the Mississippi fall only 799' from start to finish? And this is using the conversion above. And it is misleading 8" is only the first mile. The 2nd mile is actually 32".

Let's use the formula.



http://flatearthwiki.com/images/7/7d/Bluemarbimaginaryballcurvechart.png

I confirm the above using AutoCad V2002. The Alternate units in brackets have a feet designation but are actually miles. The first number is the length in feet. Notice I also show radius and diameter of the earth too.
I have to also say that I input everything in autocad using inches. It's might seem tedious, but it what I have always done.

I show both 2350' for the Mississippi and 1000' for reference.
If ya'll want to see the small text, I can zoom in on that and make a pic.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7840&d=1441327487
7840

The drop is actually 772+ miles over the course of the Mississippi using trig. This doesn't come close to 799' from Saint Anthony Falls (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Anthony_Falls).

Where does the Mississippi cut through the earth miles deep across the Heartland of Amerika?

[Serpo]

so, what happens when you reach the edge? you fall off? what's on the bottom side of the flat earth?

well as the story goes you hit the antarctic , Im not saying it is flat but taking up the argument about it..........




https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ee/UN_emblem_blue.svg/2000px-UN_emblem_blue.svg.png

[Glass]

yes the earth is a disc/disk with the antarctic surrounding the disc/disk. Some people say that this is supported by the odd behaviour of compasses which actively point north or center of disc/disk, when you get close to either the north or south poles. Given that all compasses point to center on a flat earth, it might explain the navigation issues explorer's faced when they got to the south pole or barrier. It would be impossible to tell what you were up against, a pole of a globe or the edge of a disc based purely on the compass direction readings. They say the needle gets pretty erratic when you get to either pole.

[Ponce]

The only truth that exist is the one, or what, you believe in......after all the true world in the one in your mind.

V

[Dogman]

Agreed !

Despite being wrong or right as facts go, and facts are subjective despite what a minority or majority of thoughts are on those very same facts. It is all subjective depending on the personal viewpoints of the observer and what they chose to believe as what is true or not !

Be they wrong or right in the greater scheme of things..

History is littered with story's of they that believed in the wrong facts that they called truth and time proved they were wrong.

Sorta like a generational Darwin award.

And only time will truly sort what was right and or wrong in those beliefs.

;)

[Ponce]

Very true........As I read once before......"You can only see what you know about".

V

[Serpo]

To me the truth is the truth and there can only be one truth....ie the truth of the matter.......where as belief is subjective and open to a persons own interruption.

[aeondaze]

To me the truth is the truth and there can only be one truth....ie the truth of the matter.......

Sure, makes a lot of non-sense...:rolleyes:

[Dogman]

Rule #1- I am always right

Rule #2-your thoughts matter!

Rule #3-All things are possable

Rule #4-Refer to rule #1

The above can be expanded infinitively in number but loops back to rule #1


Sorry I can not help myself! ;D

Now stick my post wherever it fits !

Hoot !

[Dogman]

Very true........As I read once before......"You can only see what you know about".

V But amigo you have to have eyes to see with, be they real eyes or what is behind those eyes and between the ears !

That really truly matters and how it is used.

Some waste the holy hell out of a god given resource, and that ether makes them a winner in life or a Darwin award, depending how they use that resource.

In the long run !

Sad but very true !

[Serpo]

Sure, makes a lot of non-sense...:rolleyes:


Maybe a unfamiliar subject for you A ...........truth

[Dogman]

Maybe a unfamiliar subject for you A ...........truth

Sorry my friend I just can not help myself...;D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsxtImDVMig

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsxtImDVMig

Rotflmao !

;D

[Jerrylynnb]

Surely, you guys going on about this flat earth nonsense are joking - right? But it isn't very funny and it makes you seem like idiots, in the style of the Three Stooges.

I wonder why intelligent (I *hope*) posters on this forum are paying any attention to this nonsense - don't you have better, and more important, subjects to which you can put your mind?

Whatever. When I was in high school, they announced that the Russians had launched a satellite that was orbiting the earth about every two hours. One evening, according to a published schedule, my Dad and I walked outside and looked at the stars in the general direction from which we were supposed to be able to see Sputnik passing over (about 200 miles up). Sure enough, there it was, like a star, but traveling really fast across the nighttime sky. The idea that the earth was flat was something we read about in junior high school from what ancient scholars had suggested - there was a drawing of four elephants upon which a disc, supposed to be the earth, rested, and, there were tales of daring seafarers who tragically went over the edge and were never heard from again.

But, for anyone of ordinary intelligence and any learning at all, to spend time with this subject, except as a ridiculous attempt at slap-happy humor, suggests mental illness of some kind.

Get real, my fellow GSUS members. We got serious problems coming our way, especially concerning money and how we go about acquiring the essential goods we need for life on this here spherical (nearly so) earth.

Am I missing something?

[Dogman]

When has sanity has or had, have anything to do with this place and the membership ? ;D

This is a insane asylum with widely dispersed inmates !

Right !

Lmao !

[7th trump]

Surely, you guys going on about this flat earth nonsense are joking - right? But it isn't very funny and it makes you seem like idiots, in the style of the Three Stooges.

I wonder why intelligent (I *hope*) posters on this forum are paying any attention to this nonsense - don't you have better, and more important, subjects to which you can put your mind?

Whatever. When I was in high school, they announced that the Russians had launched a satellite that was orbiting the earth about every two hours. One evening, according to a published schedule, my Dad and I walked outside and looked at the stars in the general direction from which we were supposed to be able to see Sputnik passing over (about 200 miles up). Sure enough, there it was, like a star, but traveling really fast across the nighttime sky. The idea that the earth was flat was something we read about in junior high school from what ancient scholars had suggested - there was a drawing of four elephants upon which a disc, supposed to be the earth, rested, and, there were tales of daring seafarers who tragically went over the edge and were never heard from again.

But, for anyone of ordinary intelligence and any learning at all, to spend time with this subject, except as a ridiculous attempt at slap-happy humor, suggests mental illness of some kind.

Get real, my fellow GSUS members. We got serious problems coming our way, especially concerning money and how we go about acquiring the essential goods we need for life on this here spherical (nearly so) earth.

Am I missing something?

No...I actually think some here are not that intelligent. Just look around for a while .....they pop right out and then act as though they are the sane ones.
Ximmy, palani, midnight rambler...all these guys have proven themselves to be.........................well lets just put it this way......I dont want to be around them when this goes down. They can and are dangerous to you and themselves.

[Glass]

I think it's a very good little study in psychology in people and groups. Its a fairly new discussion going on, new for internet I mean. Its a good opportunity to watch a movement develop and see how the beliefs become adopted and reinforced within the discussion. You have these "accepted facts" in ball earth theory and those same kinds of things are happening in the flat earth narrative. People are starting to repeat things that have been said and accepted by consensus with increasing repetition. All societies are full of these kinds of factoids which are actually just myths often repeated so that they become accepted as fact.

It's interesting to see both sides get together and have discussions about the other side, sometimes put downs, backslapping within the group, the way that works on the group psychology, reinforcing and so on.

I also find the arguments interesting in how they develop and what is being done to try and establish evidence for some of the theories by some. So long as the belief doesn't overcome the scientific principle.

[Cebu_4_2]

If the earth is flat does it really sit on Atlas's shoulders? And if so what is he standing on.

This one even in my own stupidity seems easy to refute.

[Dogman]

If the earth is flat does it really sit on Atlas's shoulders? And if so what is he standing on.

This one even in my own stupidity seems easy to refute.

Actually he wears it like a shower cap, while he floats in his hot tub!

;D

Sent from my Nexus 7

[Glass]

Actually he wears it like a shower cap, while he floats in his hot tub!

;D

Sent from my Nexus 7

So Ponce is really Atlas?

[Dogman]

So Ponce is really Atlas?

Stranger things have been known and thought to happen!

Funny you would think of El Supremo !

Lmfao !

;D

Sent from my Nexus 7

[palani]

.I dont want to be around them when this goes down. They can and are dangerous to you

In a sense you are correct. In an apocalyptic situation you probably would view yourself as a survivor while anyone with the slightest intelligence will know you as a ZOMBIE right off the bat.

[7th trump]

In a sense you are correct. In an apocalyptic situation you probably would view yourself as a survivor while anyone with the slightest intelligence will know you as a ZOMBIE right off the bat.

You're not as witty as you think...definitely not observant.....but thats obvious though from reading your gibberish.
Nobody will know anything about me as I wont be around them.

[palani]

I wont be around them.
I can live with that.