Burning Man

[EE_]

Anyone ever been to one?
This years event ends in a couple days. They got plagued with winds and dust.
In case you don't know, this is an event for mostly liberals to get nude, have sex and get crazy. Lots of hot nude liberal chicks and gay males.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk5PTDirSg4

Interracial Harmony

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoGBqBGN-lE

[Camp Bassfish]

Burning Man is just couple rungs higher than my crazy ladder extends. But I'll confess to being curious.

[singular_me]

burning man is above all an explosion of creativity

as much as I think dictating sexual norms is wrong, as long as nobody is coerced is fine. This is dualism. This Sexed Universe comprises all expressions of what entails being a human. Every paradigm has upsides and downsides. Compulsive behaviors never end well, just like chasing money.

WALTER RUSSELL
Sex is the fundamental principle of Creation. It is the dual desire force in Mind for expressing its One Idea.

[BrewTech]

Burning Man is just couple rungs higher than my crazy ladder extends. But I'll confess to being curious.

Well put, sir!

[Ponce]

The government now taxes the even so that now is not the same.....being "free" now cost more every day.

V

[drycreek]

Burning Man founder: 'Black folks don't like to camp as much as white folks' (http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2015/sep/04/burning-man-founder-larry-harvey-race-diversity-silicon-valley)

[Cebu_4_2]

Burning Man founder: 'Black folks don't like to camp as much as white folks' (http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2015/sep/04/burning-man-founder-larry-harvey-race-diversity-silicon-valley)


Burners... lol.

[Cebu_4_2]

Wow, someone made a lot of money.

1 ticket + survival guide $750.00

2 tickets + vehicle pass + survival guide $1299.00

[Jewboo]

Lots of hot nude liberal chicks and gay males.




http://static2.artspan.com/member/dstevens/1200/285368.jpg


Heterosexual White Men need their own burning festival these days but that is not allowed anymore.


:rolleyes:

http://sdgln.com/files/articles/more/photo4.jpg
Gays make up a big part of Burning Man festival (http://www.sdgln.com/social/2013/09/04/gays-play-big-part-burning-man-festival)

[EE_]

Wow, someone made a lot of money.

1 ticket + survival guide $750.00

2 tickets + vehicle pass + survival guide $1299.00

That's what's so funny about this event. They are mostly capitalist's pretending to be liberals.
The only thing these people spread around for the benefit of all, is their STD's. The only real liberal's in the bunch are the broke-assed bums.
The creativity is cool, but everything else is fake.

[Hitch]

Wow, someone made a lot of money.

1 ticket + survival guide $750.00

2 tickets + vehicle pass + survival guide $1299.00

I almost went last year, if you buy tickets in advance you can save some money. They have communities that folks reserved, so they can be together in the same spot. Each has a name. I got invited to join one, a bunch of crazy fireworks pyrotechnic folks. I'm sure it would have been a blast.

I also learned, the best thing to do, is rent an RV. Don't take your own camper, the dust storms, etc, your camper will never be the same.

If you are a single guy, with a camper and a shower, you will never be showing alone, if you understand. Everyone is into conserving water in the desert and a lot of folks tent camp. Go find a companion or two for your shower. Not that I would personally do something like that....but it is an option.

[EE_]

I almost went last year, if you buy tickets in advance you can save some money. They have communities that folks reserved, so they can be together in the same spot. Each has a name. I got invited to join one, a bunch of crazy fireworks pyrotechnic folks. I'm sure it would have been a blast.

I also learned, the best thing to do, is rent an RV. Don't take your own camper, the dust storms, etc, your camper will never be the same.

If you are a single guy, with a camper and a shower, you will never be showing alone, if you understand. Everyone is into conserving water in the desert and a lot of folks tent camp. Go find a companion or two for your shower. Not that I would personally do something like that....but it is an option.

Just make sure your companion doesn't have anything that looks like this.

http://img.webmd.com/dtmcms/live/webmd/consumer_assets/site_images/articles/health_tools/genital_herpes_slideshow/webmd_rm_photos_of_herpes_blisters.jpg

[Mozart]

If you are a single guy, with a camper and a shower, you will never be showing alone

Except of course if you happen to be a working class dude, then you will be mister untouchable to the rich liberal hypocrites.

[Hitch]

Just make sure your companion doesn't have anything that looks like this.

If you are fortunate enough to see in advance. That's pretty much why I'm not interested in going anymore. In the dusty desert with thousands of smelly people. Yes, beautiful women, but the type that would probably be carrying diseases, or even just caught one minutes before meeting you.

[Hitch]

Except of course if you happen to be a working class dude, then you will be mister untouchable to the rich liberal hypocrites.

Out there class doesn't matter, all that matters is if they like the way you look. There's actually a sex palace there, set up for people to just get right down to business.

[EE_]

If you are fortunate enough to see in advance. That's pretty much why I'm not interested in going anymore. In the dusty desert with thousands of smelly people. Yes, beautiful women, but the type that would probably be carrying diseases, or even just caught one minutes before meeting you.

They can be very pretty, but in general, (fake) liberal chicks are known to be be quite promiscuous.

[Hitch]

They can be very pretty, but in general, (fake) liberal chicks are known to be be quite promiscuous.

And, unleash them in an environment full of free sex and drugs. Still, we are all human and can give into temptation. It's why Jesus died for our sins. We can sin and be saved. Being in that environment, there would be a lot of temptation too...

[Dogman]

They can be very pretty, but in general, (fake) liberal chicks are known to be be quite promiscuous.

Ah memories of the 60's and early 70's. As words of a song went. "What a trip its been" and deferentially was !

;D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pafY6sZt0FE

Which also seeing the tripping that is happening there !

A nod to this one !


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WANNqr-vcx0



Sent from my Nexus 7

[midnight rambler]

It's why Jesus died for our sins. We can sin and be saved.

Right, however once saved one must STOP sinning.

"Go and sin no more." --Jesus

[Dogman]

Most everyone sadly misses that part of the memo..

[Hitch]

Right, however once saved one must STOP sinning.

"Go and sin no more." --Jesus

Well this ruins my plans. Can't a guy just go to Burning Man once a year, sin like crazy....then go to confession afterwards, repent, say a bunch of Our Father's and Hail Mary's, and call it good?

[Cebu_4_2]

Well this ruins my plans. Can't a guy just go to Burning Man once a year, sin like crazy....then go to confession afterwards, repent, say a bunch of Our Father's and Hail Mary's, and call it good?


You pretty much got it right young man.

[Dogman]

Well this ruins my plans. Can't a guy just go to Burning Man once a year, sin like crazy....then go to confession afterwards, repent, say a bunch of Our Father's and Hail Mary's, and call it good?

Why in the hell not ?

The vast majority if not all people do just that!

Sin, wash then repeat it endlessly as most do!

Sent from my Nexus 7

[Hitch]

Why in the hell not ?

The vast majority if not all people do just that!

Sin, wash then repeat it endlessly as most do!

Sent from my Nexus 7

Maybe next year I'll go. I'm getting to that age where I need to start planning my mid-life crisis. I don't want to waste mine, it's got to be something really big. Perhaps, start the debauchery by going to Burning Man. Then, buy a motorcycle and ride the country. After that, I'm open to ideas.

I need to start saving for this.

[EE_]

Well this ruins my plans. Can't a guy just go to Burning Man once a year, sin like crazy....then go to confession afterwards, repent, say a bunch of Our Father's and Hail Mary's, and call it good?

You have to be a Baptist to do that.

[EE_]

Maybe next year I'll go. I'm getting to that age where I need to start planning my mid-life crisis. I don't want to waste mine, it's got to be something really big. Perhaps, start the debauchery by going to Burning Man. Then, buy a motorcycle and ride the country. After that, I'm open to ideas.

I need to start saving for this.

Don't worry, you'll have time to have a few mid-life crisis. I'm thinking about having another soon. :)

[Dogman]

Don't worry, you'll have time to have a few mid-life crisis. I'm thinking about having another soon. :)

Lmfao!

Because it is very true for many, especially if single or between!


Hoot!

Sent from my Nexus 7

[singular_me]

when I used to live in the big apple, I knew a woman who later became one of the main organizers.... she told me that setting up such an event is extremely expensive as it grows in size every year and they mu$t clean up after everybody is gone. I can see that.

but still, I wouldnt spend my money to attend. Money corrupts freedom... and now burning man is much more superficial than it was back in the old days. I know 2 people in my area who go every year and especially save every penny to cover costs of the trip, for them is almost like a religion.



Wow, someone made a lot of money.

1 ticket + survival guide $750.00

2 tickets + vehicle pass + survival guide $1299.00

[Cebu_4_2]

Just make sure your companion doesn't have anything that looks like this.

http://img.webmd.com/dtmcms/live/webmd/consumer_assets/site_images/articles/health_tools/genital_herpes_slideshow/webmd_rm_photos_of_herpes_blisters.jpg

I'll bet the zinc fix works for this but I wont personally test it out.

Can't find my link for it.

[Dogman]

I'll bet the zinc fix works for this but I wont personally test it out.

Can't find my link for it. Maybe help for the surface irritation, but as I understand it , the infection goes deep and binds with the nerves and once caught it is a lifetime thing..

No cure..

Just maybe temp relief can be had, and if a woman has a an active case it can be passed on to her child at birth, but not before. Because of the real skin to skin plus fluid contact. The placenta and blood barrier prevent infection before hand.

[Cebu_4_2]

Maybe help for the surface irritation, but as I understand it , the infection goes deep and binds with the nerves and once caught it is a lifetime thing..

No cure..

Just maybe temp relief can be had, and if a woman has a an active case it can be passed on to her child at birth, but not before. Because of the real skin to skin plus fluid contact. The placenta and blood barrier prevent infection before hand.

No. I was looking for the thread about warts, nothing came up with my criteria. Not sure what sub forum I posted it in. The zinc stuff does a number on the wart virus and herpes is a wart type virus... My kid had a bunch, burned, chemical bombed, cut and once we did the zinc thing they all disappeared in a couple-3 weeks. That post was what I was looking for.

[Dogman]

No. I was looking for the thread about warts, nothing came up with my criteria. Not sure what sub forum I posted it in. The zinc stuff does a number on the wart virus and herpes is a wart type virus... My kid had a bunch, burned, chemical bombed, cut and once we did the zinc thing they all disappeared in a couple-3 weeks. That post was what I was looking for. lets just agree to disagree on this and leave it at that..

[Cebu_4_2]

lets just agree to disagree on this and leave it at that..


You found the thread?

[Dogman]

You found the thread?

Nope!

Sent from my Nexus 7

[monty]

You found the thread?

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?49228-warts!&p=709732&viewfull=1#post709732

[Cebu_4_2]

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?49228-warts!&p=709732&viewfull=1#post709732
Monty you are an angel, either that or you spent a lot more time than I did. Post 79ish I think but might have been before.

[Hitch]

Monty you are an angel, either that or you spent a lot more time than I did. Post 79ish I think but might have been before.

Does this mean you are grabbing the zinc stuff, and heading off to Burning Man?

[Cebu_4_2]

Does this mean you are grabbing the zinc stuff, and heading off to Burning Man?


I would be taking it in advance :)

[Hitch]

I was emptying out my tanks in the RV yesterday morning, and a guy approached asking for help emptying his. Of course I offered to help. Turns out, he had rented an RV and just returned from Burning Man. He said it was a crazy circus. His friend was the CEO of Burning Man, and he stayed in "first camp". Seems they had unlimited power, showers, catering, the works.

When we emptied the tanks in his rented RV, not much was there. He was using the facilities at first camp, no doubt. 3 men in an RV, 7 days in the desert...empty tanks?

I took a look at the RV as he was going to return it. Dust everywhere, though they tried to clean it up.

He said don't even think about renting an RV. It's $1000 cash down deposit if they know you are going to Burning Man. Then add the daily rate, he doubts he will get that grand back. He said take your own, and tape up everything, bring plastic, tape the doors, windows, vents up, etc.

[EE_]

I was emptying out my tanks in the RV yesterday morning, and a guy approached asking for help emptying his. Of course I offered to help. Turns out, he had rented an RV and just returned from Burning Man. He said it was a crazy circus. His friend was the CEO of Burning Man, and he stayed in "first camp". Seems they had unlimited power, showers, catering, the works.

When we emptied the tanks in his rented RV, not much was there. He was using the facilities at first camp, no doubt. 3 men in an RV, 7 days in the desert...empty tanks?

I took a look at the RV as he was going to return it. Dust everywhere, though they tried to clean it up.

He said don't even think about renting an RV. It's $1000 cash down deposit if they know you are going to Burning Man. Then add the daily rate, he doubts he will get that grand back. He said take your own, and tape up everything, bring plastic, tape the doors, windows, vents up, etc.

Did you ask him what the even is supposed to be about?
A celebration of capitalism, corporatism, mass consumption, the wasting of resources and polluting the air/environment, unsustainable living?
Is this what liberals promote today?

I know it was just a wild party with drugs, nudity and perversion...and fun!

[Hitch]

Did you ask him what the even is supposed to be about?
A celebration of capitalism, corporatism, mass consumption, the wasting of resources and polluting the air/environment, unsustainable living?
Is this what liberals promote today?

I know it was just a wild party with drugs, nudity and perversion...and fun!

I think it's about freedom. These people go into the desert, in an unsustainable environment, and just let loose. There's no mass consumption or wasting resources at burning man...that's for sure. Every ounce of water counts, and you better get used to being one with the dirt and nature.

I think it roots down deeper than most folks allow themselves. Go out there, once a year, and be as free as your mind will allow you to be.

My thoughts. I hope to check it out next year.

[EE_]

I think it's about freedom. These people go into the desert, in an unsustainable environment, and just let loose. There's no mass consumption or wasting resources at burning man...that's for sure. Every ounce of water counts, and you better get used to being one with the dirt and nature.

I think it roots down deeper than most folks allow themselves. Go out there, once a year, and be as free as your mind will allow you to be.

My thoughts. I hope to check it out next year.

I don't think so. There's a lot of money that goes into this event and everyone pays before they go. Have you seen all the structures and materials that burn during this thing? Huge clouds of smoke!
The reason I made that statement, is because these are mostly liberals that attend this event. It goes against everything they preach back in the civilized world...so to speak...
Basically, I'm calling them all a bunch of phony liberals.
Hey, I'm all for a great party. Nothing wrong with that. You won't hear me preaching the liberal agenda if I were going.

Here's their site:
The 10 Principles of Burning Man
http://burningman.org/culture/philosophical-center/10-principles/

[Horn]

Is more or less one of the more disgraceful/graceless parts of Paganism.

Allows the snake to shed and put lotion on its skin.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pQOaLFSdEg



Death defying, mutilated armies scatter the earth Crawling out of dirty holes, their morals, their morals disappear, yeah

[Dogman]

I don't think so. There's a lot of money that goes into this event and everyone pays before they go. Have you seen all the structures and materials that burn during this thing? Huge clouds of smoke!
The reason I made that statement, is because these are mostly liberals that attend this event. It goes against everything they preach back in the civilized world...so to speak...
Basically, I'm calling them all a bunch of phony liberals.
Hey, I'm all for a great party. Nothing wrong with that. You won't hear me preaching the liberal agenda if I were going. I think you maybe are wrong other than being liberal, It is a chance to be your inner person and let loose and be as crazy as you want and no one will judge you.

As Hitch said also it is a way to turn loose and just vent not in anger but let it all hang out where again no one will judge you.

Plus being creative but in a transitory way, nothing is permanent as in life other than taxes and death. Create enjoy and destroy the old to make way for the new of the next season.

If anything it is more pagan of old in its roots but upgraded.

Said from a old head/counterculture fart that can see exactly where burning man comes from and most that attend celebrate.

Sure it costs out of the ass, but take a look at a map, and understand the structure that is required to hold something this big for so many people. Out in the middle of nowhere . To try to keep things from spinning out of control and keeping people healthy.

Fun = Bucks

With debatable profits every year it is held.

It is something conservatives can never understand , which is their loss sadly they need to loosen up their britches.

[EE_]

I think you maybe are wrong other than being liberal, It is a chance to be your inner person and let loose and be as crazy as you want and no one will judge you.

As Hitch said also it is a way to turn loose and just vent not in anger but let it all hang out where again no one will judge you.

Plus being creative but in a transitory way, nothing is permanent as in life other than taxes and death. Create enjoy and destroy the old to make way for the new of the next season.

If anything it is more pagan of old in its roots but upgraded.

Said from a old head/counterculture fart that can see where burning man comes from and most that attend celebrate.

I'm okay with all that...it's just that it goes against liberal philosophy. They hate the capitalist corporations, yet the place is full of them and a lot of money changes hands before they get there.
They are environmentalists, yet they burn massive amounts of materials that pollute the air.
Sustainable living?...fagettaboutit. Nothing sustainable going on there.
I call phony on them, that's all.

[Dogman]

I'm okay with all that...it's just that it goes against liberal philosophy. They hate the capitalist corporations, yet the place is full of them and a lot of money changes hands before they get there.
They are environmentalists, yet they burn massive amounts of materials that pollute the air.
Sustainable living?...fagettaboutit. Nothing sustainable going on there.
I call phony on them, that's all. To each their own. I still think you are wrong, but I can understand that, we all are the product of how we are raised, nothing wrong with that.

And I do think burning man is as I stated, You probably like sturgis, which most bikers can be called conservative in many ways compared to burning man.

Bikers like to think of them selfs as free spirits, and that is true mostly but with a conservative bent always some way or another, but the worship of the bike is tops.

Burning man is for they on the other side of the same dam coin.

Peace !

[Hitch]

I'm okay with all that...it's just that it goes against liberal philosophy. They hate the capitalist corporations, yet the place is full of them and a lot of money changes hands before they get there.
They are environmentalists, yet they burn massive amounts of materials that pollute the air.
Sustainable living?...fagettaboutit. Nothing sustainable going on there.
I call phony on them, that's all.

Your average person at burning man wants to be free. I would have thought folks from this forum, would respect that.

That's the whole point. Go out in the desert and no laws, no corperations, no big brother. One week to just live it up doing whatever you want. As long as you are not hurting anyone else, I think it's a go, at burning man.

I won't lie, I'm fascinated by it. I want to check it out. Hopefully next year.

[Glass]

Satanic festival.
from Serpo's post.
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?85084-Satanic-Priest-for-Bohemian-Grove-Blows-Whistle

[Dogman]

Satanic festival.
from Serpo's post.
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?85084-Satanic-Priest-for-Bohemian-Grove-Blows-WhistleNow that came from a wild tangent and perpendicular to the thread topic !

LMAO!

Tho there are some believes that are far older and more peaceful than the recent upstart young religion (only 2000 years or so old give or take a century) that is bloody as hell in the millions killed in its name.

;)

[Horn]

it's just that it goes against liberal philosophy. They hate the capitalist corporations

Careful with your definition of liberal philosophy, or renaming communal types into liberals.

True liberals enjoy capitalism, so long as they're the ones capitalizing and when they aren't capitalizing they're free to leave.

[BrewTech]

I'm okay with all that...it's just that it goes against liberal philosophy. They hate the capitalist corporations, yet the place is full of them and a lot of money changes hands before they get there.
They are environmentalists, yet they burn massive amounts of materials that pollute the air.
Sustainable living?...fagettaboutit. Nothing sustainable going on there.
I call phony on them, that's all.

I get your point, but I imagine the amount of material they burn would be more that of early man, compared to modern large corporation. So, conservative, they would be, technically.

[Horn]

Maybe one good burning indulgence or fornication under consent of the kings per year,

permits them to blow their communal and royal poppycock for the rest of the year?

YES that's the answer!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqdBmRAieAQ

[EE_]

Your average person at burning man wants to be free. I would have thought folks from this forum, would respect that.

That's the whole point. Go out in the desert and no laws, no corperations, no big brother. One week to just live it up doing whatever you want. As long as you are not hurting anyone else, I think it's a go, at burning man.

I won't lie, I'm fascinated by it. I want to check it out. Hopefully next year.

They want to be free...until they get back home. Then they want to be free on your dollar. Your average person, most attending Burning Man, are staunch Obama-ites and will be voting for Bernie and Hillary in the next election.

Yes, the corporations are there, they bring million dollar abodes with them to live in, while the rest live like pigs.

Yes 'big brother is there too. Many cops and Federal agents abound. Everything is being recorded.

Outside of that, the artist expression is pretty cool...oh, and the hot naked chicks!

Who doesn't respect freedom?

Just remember who's passing all the laws to restrict 'your' freedoms...liberals.

9/9/2015
California (Liberal) Assembly Passes Bill Limiting Automobile Use
California legislation would mandate cutting gasoline use in half within fifteen years.

The freedom to get around by automobile could be severely limited in California under legislation that cleared the state assembly on Friday. By a vote of 41 to 27, the lawmakers mandated a fifty percent cut in statewide petroleum use by 2030. The law gives the California Air Resources Board (CARB) sweeping authority to implement rules it believes would bring about that reduction, which has groups like the California Driver's Alliance concerned that the measure, if adopted by the state Senate and signed into law, will lead to gasoline rationing, punishing taxes at the gas pump or the use of privacy-invading technologies to monitor and limit individual travel.

"To enforce gas restrictions, regulators now have a plan to monitor and collect your personal driving data," the group said in an advertisement against the bill. "This will enable state regulators to penalize and fine motorists who use too much gas or drive too often... You can say no."

The California Driver's Alliance predicts that CARB will require auto manufacturers to install a black box that would monitor how long a vehicle idles, how many times it has exceeded the speed limit and similar factors so that a driver's "gas wasting" behavior could be modified.

At the request of Governor Jerry Brown (D), state Senator Kevin de Leon (D-Los Angeles) introduced Senate Bill 350 in the name of fighting global warming. De Leon insists that his bill will cut costs for Californians since cars will go twice as far on a gallon of gas once it is in effect. His legislation also orders CARB to conduct feasibility studies for boosting subsidies for electric car buyers so that low-income residents can own a Tesla Model S, Nissan Leaf or Chevy Volt. Currently there are 100,000 electric vehicles in the state. For the policy to work from switching to an electric fleet, that ownership number would have to jump to 13 million in just fifteen years.

"Thanks to the leadership of this chamber, and bipartisan collaboration, we have added clean energy technology to our mantle of economic leadership -- right up there with entertainment, biotech, information tech, and agriculture," De Leon said in a statement.

In addition to the petroleum industry, a coalition of groups including the California Farm Bureau, California Retailers Association and National Federation of Independent Business warned of the impact the legislation would have on commercial trucking and farm equipment.

"Without a cost-effective and technologically feasible way to achieve this goal, we are very concerned about the negative effect on jobs and the increasing cost of goods movement for industry," the coalition explained. "SB 350 does not provide any guidance to the ARB other than the direction to achieve the goal, potentially at any cost. To make a bad situation worse, SB 350 exacerbates California's existing lack of a sustainable transportation funding system by cutting into our primary road funding source."

A copy of SB350 is available in a 500k PDF file at the source link below.

Source: PDF File Senate Bill 350 (California Legislature, 9/4/2015)

http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/47/4785.asp


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1HVkE73z-U

[EE_]

I get your point, but I imagine the amount of material they burn would be more that of early man, compared to modern large corporation. So, conservative, they would be, technically.

A little pollution is cool. lol

http://outlawq8.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/burning-tires.jpg

[EE_]

Careful with your definition of liberal philosophy, or renaming communal types into liberals.

True liberals enjoy capitalism, so long as they're the ones capitalizing and when they aren't capitalizing they're free to leave.

Communal types/Communicable diseases. Tomato/Toma'to.

[EE_]

To each their own. I still think you are wrong, but I can understand that, we all are the product of how we are raised, nothing wrong with that.

And I do think burning man is as I stated, You probably like sturgis, which most bikers can be called conservative in many ways compared to burning man.

Bikers like to think of them selfs as free spirits, and that is true mostly but with a conservative bent always some way or another, but the worship of the bike is tops.

Burning man is for they on the other side of the same dam coin.

Peace !

Nope, don't like Sturgis, or the big crowds, never been. I ride with club guys, but I don't conform to rules well. Never did.

[Horn]

Communal types/Communicable diseases. Tomato/Toma'to.Mandating that gasoline is cut by 50% is not liberal, California is plainly communist. "Liberals" were redefined in the 60's to refer to those who support large .gov programs. It was a politically correct way of naming communists, since the war in Vietnam was just lost.

They are not liberal, they are matter of fact opposite and vehemently support "the commune's divine rights" to trample upon any individual at any time, or fully incorporated into Kalifornia. They will name their own royalty at points, giving cart blanche overseeing power and dominion to certain individuals within the flock, Czars more or less as fascist as Steve Jobs.

[singular_me]

The problem with burning man is that it has been taken over by money (young capitalists) and lost its spirit as a result. I wished I could have attend 10-15 years ago though.

Money is the Mind's polar opposite, works until a certain point then begins to corrupt the Mind. The Mind is the ultimate Law.

[Horn]

That's a good point also, behind any and every young "rebelling trippy hippy pirate" Californian are a few successful named czars. Once they get named czar they feel as if everyone around them is part of their team, and for the most part they are. Full cooperation in competitiveness reveals itself against some elusive enemy nobody even remembers or pinpointed in the first place when the party was over.

Not young capitalists, young and dumb cooperative communists they always were. Great at active role playing though, "smart artists" burning themselves.

Most would die without their fascist i-phone, I thought the following a pretty good flick.

http://yify.tv/watch-steve-jobs-the-man-in-the-machine-online-free-yify/

[madfranks]

Your average person at burning man wants to be free. I would have thought folks from this forum, would respect that.

That's the whole point. Go out in the desert and no laws, no corperations, no big brother. One week to just live it up doing whatever you want. As long as you are not hurting anyone else, I think it's a go, at burning man.

I won't lie, I'm fascinated by it. I want to check it out. Hopefully next year.

Sounds like what they really want is anarchy.

[Dogman]

Sounds like what they really want is anarchy. Not sure if that description fits. Anarchy suggests that its everyone for them selfs, and let the chips fall where they will, which is not the case at all, free expression in all shapes forms and fashions, yes!

http://survival.burningman.org/rules-regulations/

[Dogman]

Its funny in a way that I can see connections or similarity's of thinking with some here, and the past I witnessed growing up when it comes to mind sets.

During the 60's with the anti-war and so called hippie movement which in many ways was just people thinking and going out of the establish box that the older generations held and expected the young to follow. And the war at the time with nightly coverage on the news that for the first time in history brought real death and destruction and our kids/soldiers coming back home in body bags/wounded or totally different kids that went over to that hell hole that was also my war which I hated but could not be avoided.

Right smack into the living rooms of family's in this nation and world wide.

Some mind sets here reminds me how the establishment looked at the antiwar/hippie movement that refused follow the path that their parents walked, because they saw maybe for the first time, that the establishment may have had it wrong!

And the young were dieing for nothing or at least for the wrong reasons.

But the ones in power were convinced they were right or maybe a better word rightness that the young should not think and just do as they are told to do because the elders knew better.


Which also produced Kent state and the love fest that turned out to be.

The 1968 democratic Chicago convention that let the establishment show what they really felt.

And many other examples of the establishments feelings for these upstarts that questioned their ways and authority.

I am seeing echoes of that kind of thinking here on this forum, which for a membership that clams to value freedom is a very sad thing indeed.

This is just a post of my viewpoints from my side of living through all of what happened, which also in time did change this country and world, with the culture and music that evolved in those times, that echoes can still be seeing to this day.

I have always lived my life with a very strong counter culture bend and influence in my life, but anymore I am more centered and can see both sides of the fence.

Steam punk anyone?

;D

[Horn]

take yur bongos and go play in the dirt for now, Dogman. Soon you will become one of US. lol!

[Dogman]

take yur bongos and go play in the dirt for now, Dogman. Soon you will become one of US. lol!

God I hope that never happens!

And at this stage never !

;)

Sent from my Nexus 7

[EE_]

Funny, they say most people are liberals when they are young and become conservatives when they get older.
I may be more conservative now, but I was never a liberal!
I just wanted to do my own thing in my own time. Fuck the establishment's rules and laws!

I figured, I may not be here for a long time, but I damn sure am here for a good time!
I was born a rebel and will die a rebel.

[Horn]

God I hope that never happens!

And at this stage never !

;)

Sent from my Nexus 7

I was thinking we could take a trip up past Denver colorado with a tanker truck on the river then go there and have all the women shower with us.

Just gotta get around those California fruit checkers on the border...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoVpJDZPvms

[Horn]

I just wanted to do my own thing in my own time. Fuck the establishment's rules and laws!

You're a Liberal with a capitol L

LOL

[EE_]

You're a Liberal with a capitol L

LOL

Don't hang no label on me man..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0doSWS0Fj24

[Hitch]

Funny, they say most people are liberals when they are young and become conservatives when they get older.
I may be more conservative now, but I was never a liberal!
I just wanted to do my own thing in my own time. Fuck the establishment's rules and laws!

I figured, I may not be here for a long time, but I damn sure am here for a good time!
I was born a rebel and will die a rebel.

I think it works that way. The older I get, the more I just want to be left alone to do my own thing. If I died tomorrow, I want to look back on a good life.

[Horn]

Ive always been a Conservative liberal.

Mostly its been due to a lack of discretionary funds...lol

[milehi]

My then girlfriend and I went to the one 1996. We were on a mountain bike vacation, riding in Oregon and southern Idaho and decided to hit up Burning Man. I think admission was $35 each. We slept in the back of the truck with a shell. It reminded me of the parking lot party at a Dead show but more artsy. I was bored after two days and I'd run out of beer, then some people were seriously hurt when their tent was run over. It was time to leave. I was pulled over immediately once I hit the highway.

[Dogman]

Funny, they say most people are liberals when they are young and become conservatives when they get older.
I may be more conservative now, but I was never a liberal!
I just wanted to do my own thing in my own time. Fuck the establishment's rules and laws!

I figured, I may not be here for a long time, but I damn sure am here for a good time!
I was born a rebel and will die a rebel. It seems to me from watching people I have known for over 50 years plus myself. Is I think people or at least most tend to swing left to right, and then repeat until they find a place politically and also viewpoints that they feel most comfortable. Using their life experiences that also molds us into who we are at any given moment !

As humans we all change someway and somehow as we grow and age, at least most I think do.

That is one cool things is in general as a species it is imposable to get most to agree about anything about everything.

It would truly suck if everyone thought alike

Hive life anyone?

[Hitch]

Hive life anyone?

Hives are a part of life for some folks Dogman. I don't have hives, but you should not be a hive racist. They have feelings, you know.

[Horn]

Hive seen all good people,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJM7TdshUbw

[Dogman]

Hives are a part of life for some folks Dogman. I don't have hives, but you should not be a hive racist. They have feelings, you know. May 10,000 bees and their relatives drop by and visit you!

Up close and personal ! ;)

And do not sit on any mounds, lord help you if you get ant's in your pants !

Question, have fire ants showed up in your area?

Nasty critters that have stings/bites that will stay with you for quite a while.

But I do sorta agree, hive mentality in many ways is becoming the norm for many in the world these days...

;D

[Horn]

EE_ has some great other ex-fascination with everything that is Kalifornia for some reason unknown.

The ships are mined in that harbor. I'm sorta familiar in that way too.

[Hitch]

Question, have fire ants showed up in your area?

Nope, they need to learn to swim to get to me. I have been bitten while camping though, hurts like a bitch. One was in my boot when I put my foot in. Will always shake my boot out after that.

Fire ants, yup, that's the real "burning man" when they bite ya!

[Hitch]

EE_ has some great other ex-fascination with everything that is Kalifornia for some reason unknown.

He likes to point out how doomed we are in CA. I do agree somewhat, we'll be the first to collapse. CA is a barometer, when it goes up things are OK, but when it drops pay attention.

[EE_]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBVBHRD5lNU

Sep 12, 6:41 PM EDT

BURNING MAN BURNING UP OVER QUIZNOS AD

RENO, Nev. (AP) -- Burning Man is considering legal action against sandwich chain Quiznos over a video ad that pokes fun at the festival, an event organizer said.

Spokesman Jim Graham said Friday that festival officials see the video as theft of Burning Man's intellectual property.

"We'll be coordinating with our legal team to see what action we can take," Graham said.

The Denver-based Quiznos never reached out to them before putting out the advertisement, Graham added.

The YouTube video parodies the upcoming movie, "Maze Runner: The Scorch Trials," and portrays the characters frolicking and eating Quiznos at Burning Man in the northern Nevada desert. The video was posted Tuesday and has been viewed more than 760,000 times.

Representatives from Quiznos were not immediately available for comment Saturday. Graham said Burning Man hasn't yet contacted the toasted sandwich company.

The weeklong counterculture festival, which attracts more than 70,000 people to the Black Rock Desert, ended Monday. According to Graham, after the Burn is when operators get busy deflecting companies' attempts to market products by pairing them with festival content.

"We get a quite a number of requests each year from companies wanting to gift participants with their product or to capture imagery or video of their products at the event, and we turn them all down," Graham said.

The event website states that attendees are limited by the use of photos and videos, "along with Burning Man's most recognizable words, symbols and designs."

The San Francisco-based Burning Man has taken outside entities to task before over intellectual property rights, the Reno Gazette-Journal reported ( http://on.rgj.com/1NvW7xe ). According to Graham, Burning Man won a lawsuit against Girls Gone Wild, which films and markets video of topless women.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_BURNING_MAN_QUIZNOS_AD?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-09-12-18-41-04

[Horn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egRgweL12Uc

[EE_]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egRgweL12Uc

Too bad George didn't live long enough to see most of his hopes and dreams come to fruition...