Jesus Was Not A Jew

[EE_]

Jesus Was Not A Jew, Either
By Religion Or By Ancestry


Researched and Written by Robert H. Nelson and Emma L. Nelson,
authors of Joseph of Arimathea and Jesus from which this article was derived
Copyright © 2015
9-8-15



Jesus was an Israelite. He was a direct descendant of Levi through Aaron.1 Levi was a son of Jacob. Jacob was named Israel by God.2 Jesus was also a direct descendant of Judah through David. Judah was also a son of Jacob.3 Jacob’s sons were the first Israelites. Jesus was specifically an Israelite because he was a direct descendant of two of the sons of Jacob/Israel.4

Why then, does everyone say that Jesus was a Jew? Most people think that Jesus was a Jew, but Jesus was an Israelite, not a Jew. Israelites were the ones who were called the chosen people of God.5 Edomites, and their descendants, now called Jews, are not the chosen people. The fact that modern day Jews want us to think they are descended from Israelites is one of the greatest intentional lies, or misunderstandings, in all of history.

It would be virtually impossible to find a book written about Jesus that doesn’t describe him as a Jew. Are they all calling him a Jew because they think he was a Jew by religion? Are they all calling him a Jew because they think he was a Jew by ancestry? A person can be a Jew by religion while not being a Jew by ancestry, and a person can be a Jew by ancestry while not being a Jew by religion. Just what are the facts concerning the religion and ancestry of Jesus?

First, was Jesus a Jew as far as his religion was concerned? No, his religion was Hebrewism; or, as we now call it, the Religion of the Old Testament. That religion was the religion of the Hebrews and the Israelites, and was based on the Law of Moses and the teachings of the prophets. Stephen S. Wise, a former chief rabbi of the United States, said:

“The return from Babylon [following the Captivity, about 538 B.C.], and the adoption of the Babylonian Talmud, marks the end of Hebrewism, and the beginning of Judaism.”6
Jesus criticized the Jews, or Pharisees, for establishing Judaism which is based on the Talmud,7 and which at the time of Jesus was still called the Tradition of the Elders.8

When the people returned from Babylon, about 538 B.C., after the Babylonian Captivity, they brought back a different religion than the one practiced just fifty years earlier. The new religion was the Tradition of the Elders (or Judaism), and that religion was based on the teachings of the rabbis rather than the laws of God.

“Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying, Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread. But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?”9

In this painting by James Tissot, Jesus was questioned by the Pharisees, and he rebuked them and criticized their religion.10

For many years after the return from the Babylonian Captivity, even at the time of Jesus, the remaining Israelites still went to the Temple and participated in the religious activities there. Those Israelites had nowhere else to go, but they tried to hold on to Hebrewism, the religion of their ancestors, even though that religion had been largely eliminated by the rabbis.

Professor Georg Hermann Schnedermann (1852-1917) of the University of Leipzig, a Lutheran theologian, made his point eloquently when he wrote about the two groups at the time of Jesus with different religions and ethnicities.

He distinguished “between the ‘Israelite’ and ‘Jewish’ elements in the intellectual atmosphere in which Jesus grew up: though Judaism reigned in the schools of the scribes and held the field to outward appearance, yet an ‘Israelite’ strain of piety and conviction prevailed in a certain section of religious society. Those who walked in the green pastures and beside the still waters of this faith of the heart were in touch with the Prophets and understood all that is deepest in the Old Testament.”11

Many of the people hoped that a leader would emerge who would turn back the clock and allow them to have the religion of God that had disappeared.12 A mission of Jesus was to give back to the Israelites the religion that had been stolen from them. Definitely, Jesus was not a Jew by religion.

Second, was Jesus a Jew by ancestry? Jews were not Israelites as they were not descended from Jacob. They were descended from Esau, the brother of Jacob. While both were grandsons of Abraham and sons of Isaac, Jacob was favored by God.13 Esau’s descendants were called Edomites,14 and later they were called Jews since many of them were then living in Judea because the Edomites had been captured by John Hyrcanus and forced to convert to the religion then in place in Judea. Jesus stated in Matthew, “I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”15 When Jesus sent his disciples out to spread his message he told them, “Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the

Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”16 The Jews were not a part of the sheep of the house of Israel that Jesus talked about. Note that it is not the fact that the Jews did not believe in the message of Jesus that made them not of his sheep. Jesus knew that it was because they were not of his sheep that they did not believe in his message.

“But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.”17

Therefore, Jesus in his own words gave us proof that the Jews were not of his sheep, the house of Israel. They were not Israelites. Jesus knew that they didn’t have the same religion or ancestry that he had.

Jacob kept his line pure and God rewarded him by making him the father of God’s “chosen people.”18 Note that the Jews are not the “chosen people” even though they say that they are. Jacob’s brother Esau married out of his own people and God punished him. His descendants moved to the Mount Seir area southeast of the Dead Sea. His descendants were called Edomites.19 They were the ancestors of the people known today as Jews.20 Later the Edomites moved into the areas vacated by the Israelites during the Captivity.

Many years after that when John Hyrcanus, one of the Macabean kings, conquered the Edomites and then offered them full citizenship if they would adopt the religion then in place in Judea, this brought most of the Edomites into Judea and into the religion later known as Judaism.

“As far as authentic history will carry us, the descendants of the Edomites are to be sought for rather amongst the Jews themselves, than amongst any other people ….”21

The Edomite Jews claimed they were from Abraham, which they were, being descended from Esau, a son of Isaac. But a passage in John proves that the Jews were not Israelites since they told Jesus that they had never been in bondage.22 Of course, the Israelites had been held as slaves in Egypt.23 Those were Edomite Jews to whom Jesus was speaking.

The Jews at the time of Jesus were not a part of any tribe of Israel, including the Tribe of Judah. They were a mixture of Babylonians, Cannanites, Hittites, but mainly Edomites.

The Jews of today are the descendants of those people.24 Jesus was not a Jew but was actually an Israelite, as he was descended from Levi through Aaron and Zadok.25 He was also an Israelite because he was descended from Judah through David.26 Both Levi and Judah were sons of Jacob who was renamed Israel by God. During his ministry Jesus had many battles with the Pharisees who were Edomite Jews, and not Israelites.27 The Pharisees were not respected by Jesus because they enforced the Tradition of the Elders, later known as Judaism, which Jesus did not accept.28 Also, Jesus did not respect them because he knew that they were Edomite Jews and not Israelites.

Jesus was of the religion of Hebrewism; or, as we call it today, the Religion of the Old Testament, and he was an Israelite of the Tribes of Levi and Judah. So, contrary to what is said or written about Jesus being a Jew, he was not a Jew either by religion or by ancestry.29

http://rense.com/general96/jesusnotjew.html

[Twisted Titan]

Interesting reading.

One has to wonder everything that is truly associated with Yeshua has all but been mired in sea of confusion

The bible which is refernced the KJV was complied together not by pious men and women but the Religious Power Elite of the day at the council of nicea

Those who wish to have a solid relationship with the creator are tossed to and froe trying to bulding a solid understanding based on teachings


Its frustrating and very very sad.

[Sparky]

Jesus Was Not A Jew, Either
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Second, was Jesus a Jew by ancestry? Jews were not Israelites as they were not descended from Jacob. They were descended from Esau, the brother of Jacob. While both were grandsons of Abraham and sons of Isaac, Jacob was favored by God.13 Esau’s descendants were called Edomites,14 and later they were called Jews since many of them were then living in Judea because the Edomites had been captured by John Hyrcanus and forced to convert to the religion then in place in Judea.
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If there was already a religion in place in Judea which the Edomites were forced to join, then this "Judaism" must have already existed. What was the origin of this Judaism? If it was not via direct descendents of Jacob, then why are Jews disparagingly referred to as "The Tribe", which implies lineage with one of Jacob's twelve sons?

[Horn]

Does this put more distance between actual Semitic jews and their Khazar knockoffs?

Jews should be all just a bunch of semites as well as Jesus.

[StreetsOfGold]

Jesus was not a Jew? Poppycock!

Debunked with ONE VERSE


John 1:11 He came unto his own (Jews), and his own (Jews) received him not.

[StreetsOfGold]

The bible which is refernced the KJV was complied together not by pious men...but the Religious Power Elite of the day at the council of nicea

Sorry NO women were EVER involved in the translation of God's word, the King James Bible

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The men behind the King James bible were the most brilliant linguists EVER assembled - BARR NONE!! It has absolutely NOTHING whatsoever to do with ANY "council" especially the SATANIC (Raman Catholic) council of Nicea

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[Carl]

Jesus was not a Jew? Poppycock!

Debunked with ONE VERSE


John 1:11 He came unto his own (Jews), and his own (Jews) received him not.

Why do you believe rewriting the verse to suite your point of view, "debunked" anything?

[7th trump]

Congratulation EE................you're the first on this site that actually got it right.
Yes, the so called chosen are the Edomites.....they are called the edomites because they are the desendents of "Esau". The very Esau who sold his birth rights to Jacob. And Jacob was later renamed Isreael by God Himself.
Now for all the idiots on this forum who down talk the fake jews....if you're white............these fake chosen are your brotheren (distant family).
This is why they look just like any other white man other than some minute features from race mixing back in those days.
They are still desendents of Abraham and why you will not here me speak bad about them much.
Satan might be using them as his tool but they still have every right to repent and be accepted into the family.
Everyone of every race, creed and color has that right to become members of that family....we are all Gods children.

[Horn]

Why do you believe rewriting the verse to suite your point of view, "debunked" anything?

You're missing the point, Carl.

My statement then is that the apostles were obviously foreign implant agents (as they were accepting)

Possibly early globalist pilgrims.

[singular_me]

religion is living one's life through someone else.... spirituality is following one's own path.

people fall for the idea of a leader or a savior because they live in fear. My leader is holier than yours, so here we are now on the brink of a total clash

additionally iit is very likely that jesus may not even have existed... perhaps as an successful and recognized activist, then the powers that be at the time, just turned him into a myth because paganism was waning... so many pagan elements in the bible... drinking the blood and eat the flesh of christ who dies for human sins, while 90% of christians cannot even follow the bible's teaching.

I personally very much like the bible because it is filled with ancient esoteric knowledge and I learned a great deal as a result.

Resurrected after 3 days... how many deities went through this again?

religion IS politics and that will never change. Yet so many do not understand that it is the very reason why we have a NWO. Religious fear (of chaos) is what keeps it on life support.

[madfranks]

Honest question, what about Mark 15 verse 2?


And Pilate asked him, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answering said unto them, Thou sayest it.

And John 18?


33 Then Pilate entered into the judgment hall again, and called Jesus, and said unto him, Art thou the King of the Jews?

34 Jesus answered him, Sayest thou this thing of thyself, or did others tell it thee of me?
35 Pilate answered, Am I a Jew? Thine own nation and the chief priests have delivered thee unto me: what hast thou done?
36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
37 Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.
38 Pilate saith unto him, What is truth? And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them, I find in him no fault at all.

[Dogman]

If no a jew he would not have been allowed into the temple in the first place or anyone paying attention to him.

But he was and they did.

[singular_me]

as long as the question of jesus being a jew is debated, zionism is here to stay

the question is inseparable from the answer.

peace will never be given any chance as long as the herd mentality exists

[Dogman]

as long as the question of jesus being a jew is debated, zionism is here to stay

the question is inseparable from the answer.

peace will never be given any chance as long as the herd mentality exists But, But what we have said here does not fit the agenda of denying anything jew, even if the bible or at least the old testament is 100% Jewish with very strong influence in the new testament.

Gasp !

[7th trump]

Honest question, what about Mark 15 verse 2?



And John 18?

Jesus didnt admit nothing of the kind. All he kept saying was its you who is asking if I am....again Christ never said anything else.

[gunDriller]

Jesus was a local.

in the area of Palestine.


Seems like that would make him Palestinian.

[singular_me]

being anti jew - for whatever reason - is being against the old and new testament alike. Christianity is based on a dreadful paradox: jews killed jesus. Then we have islam claiming abraham as a leader... best of luck and welcome judgment day. All the 3 monotheistic systems will be engulfed at some point because of their own dualism. An of course, the NWO is using this motion to obtain what it wants: TOTAL WAR.

keep fighting... one cannot blame the NWO forever. IMHO


But, But what we have said here does not fit the agenda of denying anything jew, even if the bible or at least the old testament is 100% Jewish with very strong influence in the new testament.

Gasp !

[ShortJohnSilver]

It's really simple - Jesus was a Jew, of the actual Jewish/Hebrew religion, which existed at the time he lived.

There were three (maybe more) branches that were competing faiths:

Jesus' Hebrewism - based on the WORDs of God as written in the Old Testament. If your father was a Hebrew, you were Hebrew - this is seen again and again, where brides come from war or other means, and the man's being Hebrew means the kids are Hebrew also.

The Essenes - not much that I know about them - mystical and possibly ascetic.

The Pharisees - the ones who won. They killed off Jesus and solidified their power over the remaining Jews that did not convert to Christianity. Phariseeism is also known as Talmudism. Under the Talmud, everything written in the OT can be gainsaid, twisted, or inverted - sort of like how the Jews on the Supreme Court can find gay marriage in the Constitution. Talmudism rewrites the OT and allows every kind of filth and corruption, which is why it is popular.

[Serpo]

Ive no idea , I wasnt there...................

[singular_me]

good answer... more over, I dont know how can so many believe in dogmas for masses when everything is corrupt to the core and that the NWO can be traced back to the emperor constantine.


Ive no idea , I wasnt there...................

[Hitch]

Ive no idea , I wasnt there...................

All that matters is that Jesus died to save us from our sins.

Besides, being Jewish back then was I'm sure a lot different than being Jewish now. I doubt Jesus even considered running pornography out of some hellhole like Los Angeles was possible, or controlling the media.

[EE_]

All that matters is that Jesus died to save us from our sins.

Besides, being Jewish back then was I'm sure a lot different than being Jewish now. I doubt Jesus even considered running pornography out of some hellhole like Los Angeles was possible, or controlling the media.

It was different in that Jesus could whip the dirty Jews and get away with it. It was before the ADL.
Jesus would be very busy today and would go through lots and lots of switches.

https://mattanslow.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/jesus-cleansing-the-temple.jpg

[Serpo]

Maybe this ................https://omnivorenz.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/wife-beating-machine-1886.png

[Horn]

It was different in that Jesus could whip the dirty Jews and get away with it.

Are you accusing Jesus of antisemitism, or are you and him just racist?

[Hitch]

Are you accusing Jesus of antisemitism, or are you and him just racist?

EE, Horn is right, Jesus was not a racist.

[Horn]

EE, Horn is right, Jesus was not a racist.

Could be he was referring only to the dirty ones, and the "temple incursion" was an early form of halocaustical hoax.

I myself know Jesus to be an insurgent.


Full Definition of INSURGENT

1
: a person who revolts against civil authority or an established government; especially : a rebel not recognized as a belligerent

2
: one who acts contrary to the policies and decisions of one's own political party

[EE_]

EE, Horn is right, Jesus was not a racist.

The word 'racist' wasn't invented yet. Jesus just knew he didn't like the thieving, murdering, perverted bastards...hence the whippin' he gave them.

Jesus wasn't a violent man, so they must have really pissed him off.

[Horn]

hence the whippin' he gave them.

And then after having received their "just deserts" were given an apathetic appeal to create new usury.

All you have to do is believe... and its all they knew how to do.

[singular_me]

I dont care about the character, what counts is the message of Love (empathy, compassion, respect, etc)

when we understand what Natural Law REALLY means and entails, it becomes very clear as why Love is the only motion that truly balances everything. But it all starts with self-love... or self-hatred. The choice is ours.

The law of Correspondence: you get what you reap. Fear is what the NWO feeds on, it is a psychic vampire.

The Law of Giving is inescapable... that is what Jesus meant. Oddly I had to spend 5 years in the rabbit holes to grasp why ancient knowledge is correct when UNsubverted.


Man' s power lies in giving. He must learn to give as Nature gives. Each half of a cycle eternally gives to the other half for re-giving. Nature forever unfolds into many for the purpose of refolding into one. Each individual must manifest this universal law. The desire of some so-called 'apron string' parents to run their children' s lives for them, often claiming that they have sacrificed their very own lives for them, are taking from their children - not giving. They are taking away the initiative children need to complete their own cycles: they must live their own lives for themselves. Man must know the principle of Creation: giving between each interchanging opposite half of each cycle for the purpose of repeating its giving. This is universal law and each individual must manifest this law. Man will forever war with man until he learns to give his all with the full expectation of equal receiving, and never taking that which is not given as an earned reward for his giving -- Walter Russell





EE, Horn is right, Jesus was not a racist.

[Horn]

and never taking that which is not given as an earned reward for his giving -- Walter Russell

I have no empathy towards those who stroke only to be stroked, they are dicks and simply must die.

isn't there like a heart emoticon somewhere?

[7th trump]

The word 'racist' wasn't invented yet. Jesus just knew he didn't like the thieving, murdering, perverted bastards...hence the whippin' he gave them.

Jesus wasn't a violent man, so they must have really pissed him off.

you are actually wrong.
He was pissed because they used the temple as a place to make money.
The Temple is not the place for such activity.

Basically they were using God to make money.
That didn't go over too well did it......so remember that.

[EE_]

you are actually wrong.
He was pissed because they used the temple as a place to make money.
The Temple is not the place for such activity.

Basically they were using God to make money.
That didn't go over too well did it......so remember that.

I agree, they were changing money in the temple and skimming profit, aka "theft". It was the same tribe that killed Jesus, "murderers".
"Perversion" stands to reason, only comes natural to a bunch of thieving murderers.
Like I said, Jesus was pissed at the thieving murdering perverts for doing their thieving in the temple.

[Horn]

Like I said, Jesus was pissed at the thieving murdering perverts for doing their thieving in the temple.

I'd think he'd do the same outside of the Temple too, don't you?

[Serpo]

Are you accusing Jesus of antisemitism, or are you and him just racist?


Its called acting with righteousness horn, acting from righteousness......................

[Horn]

Its called acting with righteousness horn, acting from righteousness......................

Like the holocaust, I see acting like.

[Serpo]

I'd think he'd do the same outside of the Temple too, don't you?

Not really , the temple was a spiritual place and they where bringing their outside filth into it, and so desecrating it.

[Serpo]

Like the holocaust, I see acting like.


Im not sure what you mean there but being righteous is acting from that part inside yourself that you know is true ..........

[Horn]

Not really , the temple was a spiritual place and they where bringing their outside filth into it, and so desecrating it.

You're pontificating blood in the streets is permissible then. If only not permitting in Temple.

I've a hard time cozing up to even the idea of a "true place inside of me" that acts on a urge to lash out in physical haste at others.

Less I see someone being recognizably beat in front of me, and that would be to snare punishment not inflict more.

Guess its just a Jesus thing?

[midnight rambler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG1JWJFGfOU

[Serpo]

You're pontificating blood in the streets is permissible then. If only not permitting in Temple.

I've a hard time cozing up to even the idea of a "true place inside of me" that acts on a urge to lash out in physical haste at others.

Less I see someone being recognizably beat in front of me, and that would be to snare punishment not inflict more.

Guess its just a Jesus thing?


Didnt this happen 2000yrs ago , times have changed.................

[madfranks]

I agree, they were changing money in the temple and skimming profit, aka "theft". It was the same tribe that killed Jesus, "murderers".
"Perversion" stands to reason, only comes natural to a bunch of thieving murderers.
Like I said, Jesus was pissed at the thieving murdering perverts for doing their thieving in the temple.

Just to be clear, profit does not equal theft. It was the way they were profiting that drove Jesus to whoop their asses.

http://www.garynorth.com/public/14070.cfm


After a long time the lord of those servants cometh, and reckoneth with them. And so he that had received five talents came and brought other five talents, saying, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me five talents: behold, I have gained beside them five talents more. 21His lord said unto him, Well done, thou good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord (Matthew 25:19-21).This passage appears in the most famous passage of the New Testament that deals with the final judgment. It is a parable about an owner who entrusts coins to three servants. The servants were stewards. Then he leaves. When he returns, he demands an accounting. Two servants produced a profit. The third buried his coin. The master has no gain on his investment. The master condemns the man.

[Serpo]

How to achieve righteous anger......................

.if you saw a stranger trying to steal your kid................bang ....righteous anger

and you would act without hesitation because it is your heart acting spontaneously.

[Horn]

Didnt this happen 2000yrs ago , times have changed.................

You're thinking like a jew would.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmPRHJd3uHI

[Serpo]

Jews dont think , they swindle........

[Horn]

How to get achieve righteous anger........

Gonna need potato chips with yur bolony, cause once you start eating you won't stop.

[Serpo]

maybe times havnt changed that much but its harder to whip em....................



http://www.splendoroftruth.com/curtjester/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/192066186_adfd78149a.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtjjIOH4VmQ

[singular_me]

most peope dont get an abstraction like religions, and that is why everybody has its own way to interpret their parables and imagery, scholars fight over them daily to the point that is is vain, futile and ridiculous.

Hinduism warns about Maya, the Illusion of Reality, that will bring the house down eventually. Yet indians are completely clueless.

Isaiah 45:7 (dualism explained, very seldom are the bible followers mentioning this verse, why? Because they dont understand)
I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things.

Give people classes of Physics and Natural Laws instead.

God's path is a thin line amid chaos.

The only way out is to take full responsibility for what is.

[Tumbleweed]

Jesus Was Not A Jew, Either
By Religion Or By Ancestry


Researched and Written by Robert H. Nelson and Emma L. Nelson,
authors of Joseph of Arimathea and Jesus from which this article was derived
Copyright © 2015
9-8-15



Jesus was an Israelite. He was a direct descendant of Levi through Aaron.1 Levi was a son of Jacob. Jacob was named Israel by God.2 Jesus was also a direct descendant of Judah through David. Judah was also a son of Jacob.3 Jacob’s sons were the first Israelites. Jesus was specifically an Israelite because he was a direct descendant of two of the sons of Jacob/Israel.4

Why then, does everyone say that Jesus was a Jew? Most people think that Jesus was a Jew, but Jesus was an Israelite, not a Jew. Israelites were the ones who were called the chosen people of God.5 Edomites, and their descendants, now called Jews, are not the chosen people. The fact that modern day Jews want us to think they are descended from Israelites is one of the greatest intentional lies, or misunderstandings, in all of history.

It would be virtually impossible to find a book written about Jesus that doesn’t describe him as a Jew. Are they all calling him a Jew because they think he was a Jew by religion? Are they all calling him a Jew because they think he was a Jew by ancestry? A person can be a Jew by religion while not being a Jew by ancestry, and a person can be a Jew by ancestry while not being a Jew by religion. Just what are the facts concerning the religion and ancestry of Jesus?

First, was Jesus a Jew as far as his religion was concerned? No, his religion was Hebrewism; or, as we now call it, the Religion of the Old Testament. That religion was the religion of the Hebrews and the Israelites, and was based on the Law of Moses and the teachings of the prophets. Stephen S. Wise, a former chief rabbi of the United States, said:

“The return from Babylon [following the Captivity, about 538 B.C.], and the adoption of the Babylonian Talmud, marks the end of Hebrewism, and the beginning of Judaism.”6
Jesus criticized the Jews, or Pharisees, for establishing Judaism which is based on the Talmud,7 and which at the time of Jesus was still called the Tradition of the Elders.8

When the people returned from Babylon, about 538 B.C., after the Babylonian Captivity, they brought back a different religion than the one practiced just fifty years earlier. The new religion was the Tradition of the Elders (or Judaism), and that religion was based on the teachings of the rabbis rather than the laws of God.

“Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying, Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread. But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?”9

In this painting by James Tissot, Jesus was questioned by the Pharisees, and he rebuked them and criticized their religion.10

For many years after the return from the Babylonian Captivity, even at the time of Jesus, the remaining Israelites still went to the Temple and participated in the religious activities there. Those Israelites had nowhere else to go, but they tried to hold on to Hebrewism, the religion of their ancestors, even though that religion had been largely eliminated by the rabbis.

Professor Georg Hermann Schnedermann (1852-1917) of the University of Leipzig, a Lutheran theologian, made his point eloquently when he wrote about the two groups at the time of Jesus with different religions and ethnicities.

He distinguished “between the ‘Israelite’ and ‘Jewish’ elements in the intellectual atmosphere in which Jesus grew up: though Judaism reigned in the schools of the scribes and held the field to outward appearance, yet an ‘Israelite’ strain of piety and conviction prevailed in a certain section of religious society. Those who walked in the green pastures and beside the still waters of this faith of the heart were in touch with the Prophets and understood all that is deepest in the Old Testament.”11

Many of the people hoped that a leader would emerge who would turn back the clock and allow them to have the religion of God that had disappeared.12 A mission of Jesus was to give back to the Israelites the religion that had been stolen from them. Definitely, Jesus was not a Jew by religion.

Second, was Jesus a Jew by ancestry? Jews were not Israelites as they were not descended from Jacob. They were descended from Esau, the brother of Jacob. While both were grandsons of Abraham and sons of Isaac, Jacob was favored by God.13 Esau’s descendants were called Edomites,14 and later they were called Jews since many of them were then living in Judea because the Edomites had been captured by John Hyrcanus and forced to convert to the religion then in place in Judea. Jesus stated in Matthew, “I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”15 When Jesus sent his disciples out to spread his message he told them, “Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the

Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”16 The Jews were not a part of the sheep of the house of Israel that Jesus talked about. Note that it is not the fact that the Jews did not believe in the message of Jesus that made them not of his sheep. Jesus knew that it was because they were not of his sheep that they did not believe in his message.

“But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.”17

Therefore, Jesus in his own words gave us proof that the Jews were not of his sheep, the house of Israel. They were not Israelites. Jesus knew that they didn’t have the same religion or ancestry that he had.

Jacob kept his line pure and God rewarded him by making him the father of God’s “chosen people.”18 Note that the Jews are not the “chosen people” even though they say that they are. Jacob’s brother Esau married out of his own people and God punished him. His descendants moved to the Mount Seir area southeast of the Dead Sea. His descendants were called Edomites.19 They were the ancestors of the people known today as Jews.20 Later the Edomites moved into the areas vacated by the Israelites during the Captivity.

Many years after that when John Hyrcanus, one of the Macabean kings, conquered the Edomites and then offered them full citizenship if they would adopt the religion then in place in Judea, this brought most of the Edomites into Judea and into the religion later known as Judaism.

“As far as authentic history will carry us, the descendants of the Edomites are to be sought for rather amongst the Jews themselves, than amongst any other people ….”21

The Edomite Jews claimed they were from Abraham, which they were, being descended from Esau, a son of Isaac. But a passage in John proves that the Jews were not Israelites since they told Jesus that they had never been in bondage.22 Of course, the Israelites had been held as slaves in Egypt.23 Those were Edomite Jews to whom Jesus was speaking.

The Jews at the time of Jesus were not a part of any tribe of Israel, including the Tribe of Judah. They were a mixture of Babylonians, Cannanites, Hittites, but mainly Edomites.

The Jews of today are the descendants of those people.24 Jesus was not a Jew but was actually an Israelite, as he was descended from Levi through Aaron and Zadok.25 He was also an Israelite because he was descended from Judah through David.26 Both Levi and Judah were sons of Jacob who was renamed Israel by God. During his ministry Jesus had many battles with the Pharisees who were Edomite Jews, and not Israelites.27 The Pharisees were not respected by Jesus because they enforced the Tradition of the Elders, later known as Judaism, which Jesus did not accept.28 Also, Jesus did not respect them because he knew that they were Edomite Jews and not Israelites.

Jesus was of the religion of Hebrewism; or, as we call it today, the Religion of the Old Testament, and he was an Israelite of the Tribes of Levi and Judah. So, contrary to what is said or written about Jesus being a Jew, he was not a Jew either by religion or by ancestry.29

http://rense.com/general96/jesusnotjew.html



An article here with more information on Esau selling his birthright to Jacob and the importance of it.

http://www.bible.ca/ef/expository-genesis-25-29-34.htm



Do Not Sell Your Birthright!
Genesis 25:29-34


When the boys grew up, Esau became a skillful hunter, a man of the field, but Jacob was a peaceful man, living in tents. (Genesis 25:27). Genesis 25 records the birth of two boys to Isaac and Rebekka. From the very beginning, God said that their descendants would become two nations. From the start, it seemed as they were struggling against one another in fierce competition.

Esau's descendants did develop into the nation of Edom, while Jacob's, who's name was later changed to Israel, became the nation of Israel. The conflict between the brothers continued into adulthood, and ultimately, the nations that came from them were often at war with one another through the centuries (Numbers 20:14-21; 2 Samuel 8:13-14; 2 Kings 8:20-22).

Many centuries later, Edom was eventually destroyed by decree of God (Isaiah 34:5,6; 63:1; Obadiah 1-21; Malachi 1:3). It became a symbol of the earthly, non spiritual people of the world. People who care little for God and His will, but instead are carnal, greedy, and even treacherous are as the Edomites were, and as their ancestor, Esau, was. Even in the New Testament, Esau is looked upon as a profane person who foolishly squandered his life and the blessings of God, unable or unwilling to appreciate them or truly be thankful for them.

Esau's Birthright
In ancient times, the birthright was a very important and sacred thing. It belonged to the firstborn. The family name and titles were to pass along to the eldest son. He would also receive a chief portion of the inheritance. But it was more than just a title to the physical assets of a family. It was also a spiritual position, and in the case of the people of God, God would lead the family through patriarchs, or fathers (Hebrews 1:1-2). Additionally, in the special case of Esau and Jacob, that meant the one to whom belonged the birthright was the one through who the covenant promise made to their grandfather, Abraham, would be realized. Ultimately, the Messiah would come through the holder of the birthright and bless the nations of the earth. Esau was the firstborn, and the birthright was his. But like many, he failed to appreciate its value and sacredness.

"...When Jacob had cooked stew, Esau came in from the field and he was famished; and Esau said to Jacob, 'Please let me have a swallow of that red stuff there, for I am famished.' Therefore his name was called Edom. But Jacob said, 'First sell me your birthright.' Esau said, 'Behold, I am about to die; so of what use then is the birthright to me?' And Jacob said, 'First swear to me"; so he swore to him, and sold his birthright to Jacob. Then Jacob gave Esau bread and lentil stew; and he ate and drank, and rose and went on his way. Thus Esau despised his birthright." (Genesis 25:29-34).

There you have it. For a pot of stew, poor, hungry Esau sold his birthright. Such crass behavior would be a little like selling your wedding ring for a hamburger cause you had not eaten all day, only worse. It tells of Esau's attitude toward the things of God; His purpose and His will. It shows a lack of reverence and respect. It shows the same thing we see in too many people today when it comes to how little they regard the Lord.

Profanity
We do not usually us the word today for what it originally meant. Today, we immediately think of coarse, suggestive, lewd, vulgar language. Well, those things are profanities, but the definition of profane as used in Scripture is much wider than that. It means a lack of holiness. If you take something holy and good, and treat it with contempt, then you have profaned it. To treat the things of God as ordinary is to profane or despise them. It shows a lack of godliness.

And that is what the New Testament says about Esau. He was immoral, and lacked concern for pleasing God. His spiritual blessings and responsibilities meant nothing to him. The Lord tells us to be sure we are not like Esau in this, that there be no immoral or godless person like Esau, who sold his own birthright for a single meal. (Hebrews 12:16).

But that was another time, another culture and another circumstance. We do not have the same traditions of birthright and our inheritance laws are quite different. No longer does the firstborn become spiritual head of the family. Is there still lessons and applications to be made from this? Definitely, there is!

The Value of Our Inheritance
The fact is, we do wait for a spiritual inheritance. And many think about it at about the same level as Esau thought about his. The lesson could not be more applicable if it came up and bit us on the nose. If we treat God's provisions, His commandments, His will, His purpose and His promises with less than the fervor and appreciation for them that we ought to have, He will hold us accountable for having profaned them.

If we just neglect the things having to do with our inheritance because the common things of this world are so important to us, as important as it was to Esau to have that bowl of stew, then we will be equally guilty before God. Well might we consider the rhetorical question of the Hebrew writer when he asked, how will we escape if we neglect so great a salvation? (Hebrews 12:2). Just what do we think one deserves if he or she turns their back on God? How much severer punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled under foot the Son of God, and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know Him who said, "VENGEANCE IS MINE, I WILL REPAY." And again, "THE LORD WILL JUDGE HIS PEOPLE." It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God. (Hebrews
10:29-31).

Perhaps if we are under stress and pressure or duress, God will overlook our profaning our birthright. Don't count on it. There is nothing here worth belittling the value of our eternal blessings in Christ. The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, heirs also, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him so that we may also be glorified with Him. For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us. (Romans 8:18).

The world rushes on today, giving little thought to God and His daily purpose for each of our lives. But we are children of God. Let us never forget, not for an hour, that God and His promises are holy. He expects our lives to reflect that awareness.

By Jon W. Quinn
From Expository Files 10.7; July 2003

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An article here with more information on Esau selling his birthright to Jacob and the importance of it.

http://www.bible.ca/ef/expository-genesis-25-29-34.htm



Do Not Sell Your Birthright!
Genesis 25:29-34


When the boys grew up, Esau became a skillful hunter, a man of the field, but Jacob was a peaceful man, living in tents. (Genesis 25:27). Genesis 25 records the birth of two boys to Isaac and Rebekka. From the very beginning, God said that their descendants would become two nations. From the start, it seemed as they were struggling against one another in fierce competition.

Esau's descendants did develop into the nation of Edom, while Jacob's, who's name was later changed to Israel, became the nation of Israel. The conflict between the brothers continued into adulthood, and ultimately, the nations that came from them were often at war with one another through the centuries (Numbers 20:14-21; 2 Samuel 8:13-14; 2 Kings 8:20-22).



Many centuries later, Edom was eventually destroyed by decree of God (Isaiah 34:5,6; 63:1; Obadiah 1-21; Malachi 1:3). It became a symbol of the earthly, non spiritual people of the world. People who care little for God and His will, but instead are carnal, greedy, and even treacherous are as the Edomites were, and as their ancestor, Esau, was. Even in the New Testament, Esau is looked upon as a profane person who foolishly squandered his life and the blessings of God, unable or unwilling to appreciate them or truly be thankful for them.

Esau's Birthright
In ancient times, the birthright was a very important and sacred thing. It belonged to the firstborn. The family name and titles were to pass along to the eldest son. He would also receive a chief portion of the inheritance. But it was more than just a title to the physical assets of a family. It was also a spiritual position, and in the case of the people of God, God would lead the family through patriarchs, or fathers (Hebrews 1:1-2). Additionally, in the special case of Esau and Jacob, that meant the one to whom belonged the birthright was the one through who the covenant promise made to their grandfather, Abraham, would be realized. Ultimately, the Messiah would come through the holder of the birthright and bless the nations of the earth. Esau was the firstborn, and the birthright was his. But like many, he failed to appreciate its value and sacredness.

"...When Jacob had cooked stew, Esau came in from the field and he was famished; and Esau said to Jacob, 'Please let me have a swallow of that red stuff there, for I am famished.' Therefore his name was called Edom. But Jacob said, 'First sell me your birthright.' Esau said, 'Behold, I am about to die; so of what use then is the birthright to me?' And Jacob said, 'First swear to me"; so he swore to him, and sold his birthright to Jacob. Then Jacob gave Esau bread and lentil stew; and he ate and drank, and rose and went on his way. Thus Esau despised his birthright." (Genesis 25:29-34).

There you have it. For a pot of stew, poor, hungry Esau sold his birthright. Such crass behavior would be a little like selling your wedding ring for a hamburger cause you had not eaten all day, only worse. It tells of Esau's attitude toward the things of God; His purpose and His will. It shows a lack of reverence and respect. It shows the same thing we see in too many people today when it comes to how little they regard the Lord.

Profanity
We do not usually us the word today for what it originally meant. Today, we immediately think of coarse, suggestive, lewd, vulgar language. Well, those things are profanities, but the definition of profane as used in Scripture is much wider than that. It means a lack of holiness. If you take something holy and good, and treat it with contempt, then you have profaned it. To treat the things of God as ordinary is to profane or despise them. It shows a lack of godliness.



And that is what the New Testament says about Esau. He was immoral, and lacked concern for pleasing God. His spiritual blessings and responsibilities meant nothing to him. The Lord tells us to be sure we are not like Esau in this, that there be no immoral or godless person like Esau, who sold his own birthright for a single meal. (Hebrews 12:16).



But that was another time, another culture and another circumstance. We do not have the same traditions of birthright and our inheritance laws are quite different. No longer does the firstborn become spiritual head of the family. Is there still lessons and applications to be made from this? Definitely, there is!



The Value of Our Inheritance
The fact is, we do wait for a spiritual inheritance. And many think about it at about the same level as Esau thought about his. The lesson could not be more applicable if it came up and bit us on the nose. If we treat God's provisions, His commandments, His will, His purpose and His promises with less than the fervor and appreciation for them that we ought to have, He will hold us accountable for having profaned them.



If we just neglect the things having to do with our inheritance because the common things of this world are so important to us, as important as it was to Esau to have that bowl of stew, then we will be equally guilty before God. Well might we consider the rhetorical question of the Hebrew writer when he asked, how will we escape if we neglect so great a salvation? (Hebrews 12:2). Just what do we think one deserves if he or she turns their back on God? How much severer punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled under foot the Son of God, and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know Him who said, "VENGEANCE IS MINE, I WILL REPAY." And again, "THE LORD WILL JUDGE HIS PEOPLE." It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God. (Hebrews
10:29-31).



Perhaps if we are under stress and pressure or duress, God will overlook our profaning our birthright. Don't count on it. There is nothing here worth belittling the value of our eternal blessings in Christ. The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, heirs also, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him so that we may also be glorified with Him. For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us. (Romans 8:18).



The world rushes on today, giving little thought to God and His daily purpose for each of our lives. But we are children of God. Let us never forget, not for an hour, that God and His promises are holy. He expects our lives to reflect that awareness.



By Jon W. Quinn
From Expository Files 10.7; July 2003