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Down1
9th September 2015, 05:08 AM
For those that thought he was some kind of different.

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump stated that while he hates “the concept” of letting refugees from the Middle East and north Africa into the US “on a humanitarian basis…you have to” on Tuesday’s “O’Reilly Factor” on the Fox News Channel.
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/09/08/trump-hate-the-concept-of-letting-migrants-in-but-you-have-to/

EE_
9th September 2015, 05:21 AM
For those that thought he was some kind of different.

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/09/08/trump-hate-the-concept-of-letting-migrants-in-but-you-have-to/

Would you like him better if he said "fuck the refugees"?

Ares
9th September 2015, 05:24 AM
Would you like him better if he said "fuck the refugees"?

Yep. It would of been better had he said "Fuck the refugee's, the only reason they are fleeing Syria is because of Obama's Administration that created ISIS."

mick silver
9th September 2015, 05:31 AM
thanks ares I keep telling people that the usa created ISIS and they give me that far away look like I am nuts

Ares
9th September 2015, 05:48 AM
thanks ares I keep telling people that the usa created ISIS and they give me that far away look like I am nuts

Just pass along recently declassified material showing that the government created, and funded ISIS. My neighbor said I was full of shit until I e-mailed him this:

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/05/newly-declassified-u-s-government-documents-the-west-supported-the-creation-of-isis.html

The only reason it was created was to box Assad in. The refugee's are the ones who suffer and are stuck in the middle while the power players play chest.

EE_
9th September 2015, 05:56 AM
Yep. It would of been better had he said "Fuck the refugee's, the only reason they are fleeing Syria is because of Obama's Administration that created ISIS."

You and I know this, but 95% of the population doesn't. It's not just ISIS that caused it, it's about the US/Israel destabilizing the whole middle east over the past 15 years.

Ares
9th September 2015, 06:00 AM
You and I know this, but 95% of the population doesn't. It's not just ISIS that caused it, it's about the US/Israel destabilizing the whole middle east over the past 15 years.

Very true, but if Trump doesn't know that, is it excusable if you're seeking the office? Or if you do know the truth yet still want to take in hundreds of thousands of Muslims who also KNOW what role their host country played in displacing them. Then you're just as guilty as the previous administration that made that bed, you're just being dumb enough to lay in it. (Not you EE, but the next POTUS).

EE_
9th September 2015, 06:11 AM
Very true, but if Trump doesn't know that, is it excusable if you're seeking the office? Or if you do know the truth yet still want to take in hundreds of thousands of Muslims who also KNOW what role their host country played in displacing them. Then you're just as guilty as the previous administration that made the made, you're just being dumb enough to lay in it. (Not you EE, but the next POTUS).

Politics is a dirty game and running for prez even dirtier. No one can tell the whole truth and get elected.

PatColo
9th September 2015, 11:51 AM
the solution is simple-- Trump would coerce his favoritest shitty little country, the same ones who masterminded Israeli Secret Intelligence Service (ISIS) which engineered the refugee crisis to begin with, to accept & integrate the refugees... coz now,

Europe accepts flood of immigrants while Israel arrests, deports them (http://therealistreport.com/europe-accepts-flood-of-immigrants-while-israel-arrests-deports-them/)

It's what Anti-Racist Hitler would do!! :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKDeyuM0-Og

Mozart
9th September 2015, 11:58 AM
As a side note, today the leader of the so called separatist party of Quebec demanded more syrian refugees.
Now you must understand that immigrants in Quebec vote almost 100% against the separatist party.
Like Trump, he is just another BS talking political Mason. There all the same.

Cebu_4_2
9th September 2015, 12:42 PM
Supposed live rally about the Iran deal, I can't get it to work...

http://www.nbcnews.com/video/watch-live-trump-cruz-attend-rally-against-iran-deal-322524227825

http://politichicks.com/2015/09/live-feed-from-stopirandeal-rally-in-d-c/ (http://www.nbcnews.com/video/watch-live-trump-cruz-attend-rally-against-iran-deal-322524227825)

cheka.
9th September 2015, 05:10 PM
blood thirsty running full court press on iran peace deal -- every channel on tv today...even frikin cspan

when trump 'signed' that deal with the repugs...it obviously included some new uhhh guidelines for his views

Dogman
9th September 2015, 05:14 PM
blood thirsty running full court press on iran peace deal -- every channel on tv today...even frikin cspan

when trump 'signed' that deal with the repugs...it obviously included some new uhhh guidelines for his views

Thing if we pull back the rest of the world will not!

Sticky wicky!

Some here cannot see farther than the next election and their political noses and not what the world in general sees nor wants.

Interesting times, to see our country eat itself!

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midnight rambler
9th September 2015, 05:14 PM
Politics is a dirty game and running for prez even dirtier. No one can tell the whole truth and get elected.

You're such a dreamer, and a very seriously deluded one at that. lol

Dogman
9th September 2015, 05:19 PM
You're such a dreamer, and a very seriously deluded one at that. lol

Truth hurts komrad!

I know you were being snarky to ees post!

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EE_
9th September 2015, 06:38 PM
You're such a dreamer, and a very seriously deluded one at that. lol

Why do you think I'm dreamer and deluded? Because I like seeing Trump shake things up, because he is making the Fox news shills that are paid to push Jeb! crazy?
Whatever happens, I have no say in it. I know that. I do want to believe Trump will stop the flow of Illegal's and help the Vets.
Do you think I believe everything Trump says is true? I don't. I'm not sure he even believes in God. I do think he is putting on a great show though.
If he left the race now for any reason, I think you'd see the biggest withdrawal of interest in this election by the whole country, that has never been seen before.
Tell me how you see what is happening in this race. That way I'll know why you think I'm a dreamer.

midnight rambler
9th September 2015, 06:45 PM
Why do you think I'm dreamer and deluded? Because I like seeing Trump shake things up, because he is making the Fox news shills that are paid to push Jeb! crazy?
Whatever happens, I have no say in it. I know that. I do want to believe Trump will stop the flow of Illegal's and help the Vets.
Do you think I believe everything Trump says is true? I don't. I'm not sure he even believes in God. I do think he is putting on a great show though.
If he left the race now for any reason, I think you'd see the biggest withdrawal of interest in this election by the whole country, that has never been seen before.
Tell me how you see what is happening in this race. That way I'll know why you think I'm a dreamer.


No one can tell the whole truth and get elected.

Telling less than the whole truth OR ANYTHING OTHER THAN the whole truth is by definition OMISSION and omission is still lying.

Which is more important to you, getting the whole unvarnished truth out there and letting the chips fall where they may, OR 'getting elected' and playing the go along to get along game? Any man in THAT position has a lot of people whispering things in his ear, so he does know the score (somewhat).

Otherwise I'm in total agreement with you about shaking things up, however the entire charade is being stage managed and choreographed, count on it.


Lying by omission, otherwise known as exclusionary detailing, is lying (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Deceit) by either omitting certain facts (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Fact) or by failing to correct a misconception.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Lying_by_omission

EE_
9th September 2015, 06:55 PM
Telling less than the whole truth OR ANYTHING OTHER THAN the whole truth is by definition OMISSION and omission is still lying.

Which is more important to you, getting the whole unvarnished truth out there and letting the chips fall where they may, OR 'getting elected' and playing the go along to get along game? Any man in THAT position has a lot of people whispering things in his ear, so he does know the score (somewhat).

Otherwise I'm in total agreement with you about shaking things up, however the entire charade is being stage managed and choreographed, count on it.



http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Lying_by_omission

Now you sound like a dreamer. Are you living in an alternate reality?...because in my reality very few people tell the whole truth about anything.

What is more important to me?...getting Bush out of this race! And you don't really know what Trump will do, as he goes along to get along and gets elected.

midnight rambler
9th September 2015, 07:06 PM
Doesn't matter if Scrooge McDuck gets elected, they're going to have their death, destruction, chaos, war, etc. notwithstanding some Divine intervention. The Donald will simply be another plausible delivery system the masses will gobble up. Most people accept the Communist Kenyan of extremely dubious background to be 'POTUS' when there are SO MANY reasonable arguments that he just can't be.

Dogman
9th September 2015, 07:27 PM
The question does come up who would be acceptable for the office?

That to the majority would be acceptable ?

Anyone less is just hot air and heartburn! It truly sucks being so low in total numbers that they are ignored !

Anyone that could really make a change in influencing the majority normally would not run! Because they do not want to put up with the crap!

I can say Trump is providing a model on how it could be done!

A very good model at that!

But some here better not hold their breaths finding one that will voice core beliefs held on this forum and other's !

It will never wash with the majority, unless they change their viewpoints. And some beliefs may have worked 80 or so years ago will never pass the smell test today!

Best options are to vote or not for the lesser of evils! At least the ones that vote do have a honest right to bitch!

All and any else are freeloader's politically because all they contribute is lot's of hot air and do not even try to be constructive.

But revel in being destructive!

What is behind door #4 ?

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