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ximmy
17th September 2015, 02:20 PM
The Dirty Dozen There are 12 key dates that Americas can point to in terms of pinpointing when America began to crumble:


1. The year 1913 is an important year because it marked the year that the banksters totally gained control over our economy through the passage of the Federal Reserve Act. This culminated in the bankers, through Franklin Roosevelt removing America from the gold standard and marked the ushering in of controlling America through debt management.


2. In 1944, at the Bretton Woods Agreement Conference, the United States totally surrendered its sovereignty to the forces of the Rothschild/Rockefeller banking forces by forcing the nations of the world to accept the dictates of the centralized banking system.


3. In 1947, the NSA and CIA became operational and marked the birth of the national police state surveillance grid. The CIA, an outgrowth of the WWII spy organization, the OSS, became a permanent structure in the American landscape. Today, the CIA is a private corporation which operates as a prostitute for global banking interests as they do not represent the United States.


4. In 1948, we witnessed the creation of the United Nations on land donated by the Rockefeller family. This marked the beginning of the end of political sovereignty in the United States. Mark my words, when the gun confiscation troops come to your home, they will be UN blue-helmeted troops operating under the authority of the UN Small Arms Treaty, which John Kerry recently and unconstitutionally signed without the required approval of the Senate. Certainly, the creation of ICELEI and Agenda 21 has UN origins and this cancer upon America, has its roots in the United Nations.


5. The 1960 election was primarily determined by the images on television as the underdog, the charismatic JFK, defeated the favorite, Richard Nixon. Since that time, many Americans have been conditioned to ignore the encroachment of tyranny because of television and the subsequent propagandizing of this medium of communication.


6. The outlawing of prayer in the classroom in 1962 was a key date with regard to the loss of moral authority in our country. Although Congress and the Supreme Court begin each session with a prayer,our children were taught that secular authority reigned supreme over God’s word. In the five decades since America cross this threshold, what has happened to the moral integrity of this country?


7. In 1968, the United States became a nation that imported more than it exported as Congress allowed corporations, with impunity, to relocate overseas for reasons of cheap labor and monopolistic price-fixing. This trend continued through the free trade agreements until, today, we have a mere 14% left of what was once our proud American manufacturing base.


8. On September 11, 2001, the national police state surveillance grid reached maturity. This event created, under the guise of national security, the American Stasi, The Department of Homeland Security. It has also created the Patriot Acts in which every communication that we engage in is monitored, but only for our own protection of course. This event also gave license to blue-uniformed, pot-bellied perverts to commit sexual assault upon the American traveling public through the creation of the TSA. It also gave rise to the prominence of FEMA to control every resource, every asset and even our freedom.


9. In 2008, this nation elected Obama to the presidency despite serious questions regarding his true nationality, his stunning lack of political experience and his decided lack of devotion to the Constitutional ideals emanating from the days of his “community activism” and his subsequent mentoring and support from former Weathermen Underground leaders, Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorne. Can anyone name even one thing that this President has accomplished on behalf of the American people? Please just name one thing?……. That is what I thought.


10. In 2010, America committed economic suicide through the passage and eventual administration of Obamacare. Obamacare will not only lead to the premature deaths of millions of Americans through the denial of medical service in deference to corporate profits, it will eventually lead to the economic death of the nation through the destruction of small business, the backbone of America, through mandated medical care coverage for employees of small businesses. This set into motion that our biggest employer, small business, was going to fail in large numbers.


11. In 2011, the United States blew up the United States Constitution when Congress passed the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). The NDAA obliterated all civil liberties because this marked the day that our government became the Gestapo, the Stasi and the KGB all rolled into one organization. Any government that can imprison and indefinitely detain its citizens without due process of law is an unmasked dictatorship which has genocidal intentions waiting in the wings.


12. The twelfth and final date, from 1870- present, contains the date that Rockefeller’s Standard Oil set into motion the creation of the American corporatocracy in which corporations, not citizens run the government of the United States.
A Simple Fix The American people could have stopped the tyranny in its tracks if they would have done one thing. And that one thing would have been to outlaw every campaign contribution and lobbying efforts by the corporations which turned our elected representatives into a pack of hedonistic whores. This idea is simple but would have proven effective, if we would have had the moral courage to enforce this concept.
Conclusion To those that accuse myself and my brethren of fear mongering and promoting doom and gloom, it should be obvious that the destruction of this country has been in the works for a lot longer than anyone of us has been writing and broadcasting. To these people, I say please step aside and let the real men and women of this country do their job, which is to wake up enough people so we can at least attempt to oppose the imposition of the New World Order.
In the next part of this series, I am going to cover the threats to our way of life and existence on a micro level as the effects of these 12 dates have come home to roost in the dismantling of our daily lives.

http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/02/19/twelve-dates-which-led-to-the-destruction-of-america/

palani
17th September 2015, 03:32 PM
In 1868 the U.S. chose for itself the status of a nation rather than that of a federation.

singular_me
17th September 2015, 05:16 PM
the problem is that the concept of a state is a fiction that man owns earth - while it is the opposite: earth owns us ;D

so there is no way to address any arising issues. countries are created either to be destroyed to restart from scratch or/and conquered at some point. history speaks by itself. Some countries just last longer than others

look for my thread: the danger of freeman movement.

Hitch
17th September 2015, 11:37 PM
Anyone have a guess on what lucky number 13 might be?

BTW, great article, thanks for sharing....

Shami-Amourae
18th September 2015, 01:07 AM
1945 was the end of America and the West in my book.

7th trump
18th September 2015, 08:25 AM
In 1868 the U.S. chose for itself the status of a nation rather than that of a federation.

I differ with your conclusion.
The US didn't.......YOU DID!

In 1868 the 14th was passed to give the newly free'd negro a status. The states (north and south) didn't want the negro to an equal to the white man. The only outcome of this was the feds stepped in and passed the 14th amendment protecting the free'd negro from state aggression towards the black man and made them a "US citizen". When they were free'd from involuntary servitude they were not legally considered "We the People"....they didn't have any legal status, no home. Prior to the 14th amendment there was an Act of Congress to give the negro rights....the Civil Rights Act of 1966
Statute 42usc 1982 clearly notices a white privilege to property rights over the black man.
You can view 42usc 1982 right here https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/1982 which is cut and pasted for your benefit below.


42usc 1982
All citizens of the United States shall have the same right, in every State and Territory, as is enjoyed by white citizens thereof to inherit, purchase, lease, sell, hold, and convey real and personal property.

Now what I mean by "YOU DID" is this.
It is "YOU" that signs government forms stripping your Bill of Rights away and replacing them with second class privilege "CIVIL RIGHTS" which also grants Congress to have dominion over you.
The clue here which you haven't figured out Palani is if you know what "Rights" (Bill of Right or Civil Rights of 1866) you tell the government your confusion will cease and the federal government will not look like a nation but rather a federation. The federation still exist, it never left, but nobody is in that jurisdiction for the government to respond correctly.
Believe it or not, but the federal government obeys the US Constitution to the letter.
When you step into their jurisdiction by signing those federal forms it appears the government has taken over by force and illegally but its you who is the ignorant one of how the Constitution operates and blames the guilt when the guilt is squarely on you....."individually".

I stuck "individually" in here because its very important and everyone of any age should know this because we all grew up in the class room reciting the Pledge of Allegiance every morning.

Now you can continue on with your conspiracy bullshit Palani, but be warned that I will show up scolding your propaganda conspiracy bullshit with the truth.
If you want to look like an ignorant fool I will help you in accomplishing that goal.

palani
18th September 2015, 08:34 AM
If you want to look like an ignorant fool I will help you in accomplishing that goal.

I concede that you have much more experience in looking like an ignorant fool than I. I am a mere idiot compared to the vast ignorance you constantly display and I am constantly in awe that anyone can be as ignorant as you; so much so in fact that I recognize I will never achieve your masters level of ignorance.


There must be an appearance in person in the following cases: 1st. An idiot can appear only in person, and as, a plaintiff he may sue in person or by his next friend;


idiot (n.)
early 14c., "person so mentally deficient as to be incapable of ordinary reasoning;" also in Middle English "simple man, uneducated person, layman"
(late 14c.), from Old French idiote "uneducated or ignorant person"
(12c.), from Latin idiota "ordinary person, layman; outsider," in Late Latin "uneducated or ignorant person," from Greek idiotes "layman, person lacking professional skill" (opposed to writer, soldier, skilled workman), literally "private person (as opposed to one taking part in public affairs)," used patronizingly for "ignorant person," from idios "one's own" (see idiom).

Ponce
18th September 2015, 08:48 AM
They forgot 1952, Ponce came to the US..........OUCHHHHHHHHHHH

V

7th trump
18th September 2015, 08:52 AM
I concede that you have much more experience in looking like an ignorant fool than I. I am a mere idiot compared to the vast ignorance you constantly display and I am constantly in awe that anyone can be as ignorant as you; so much so in fact that I recognize I will never achieve your masters level of ignorance.

Wow...seriously?
First off, the Bouviers thingy there doesn't say much of anything.
Why is it you never fully disclose what it is you are referencing?
So something from Bouviers (unknown) says an "idiot can only appear in person"...well whats the big deal with that?
So an idiot can only appear in person...........who cares and whats your point with this other than your obvious weasel bating?
Are you setting up more word salad conspiracy?

Secondly, entomology!?!?
So the Greek version of "idiot" is one who is a private person....I still haven't figured out where you're going with this.
Do you have a point in any of this or is this just more clues to your mental state?

Hahahaha....you're calling me an idiot and using these two "thingy's" you take as proof?

You have problems Palani...serious problems.

Carl
18th September 2015, 08:53 AM
1913 was the year that enabled all that has followed. It was the year that the states were stripped of their individual rights and identity, and by extension your individual rights and identity, and converted into the teaming masses under Centralized Control. The 17th unconstitutional non-amendment made it all possible.

7th trump
18th September 2015, 08:57 AM
1913 was the year that enabled all that has followed. It was the year that the states were stripped of their individual rights and identity, and by extension your individual rights and identity, and converted into the teaming masses under Centralized Control. The 17th unconstitutional non-amendment made it all possible.

Huh?
If anything they added a ton more rights.
The Civil Rights Act of 1866 has been amended numerous times and added 100's if not 1000's more rights to it...heck since 1913 theses been more rights added to the Act than what it started out as.

Again its YOU who is the ignorant one.

Carl
18th September 2015, 09:27 AM
Huh?
If anything they added a ton more rights.
The Civil Rights Act of 1866 has been amended numerous times and added 100's if not 1000's more rights to it...heck since 1913 theses been more rights added to the Act than what it started out as.

Again its YOU who is the ignorant one.

If the states had retained their representation within the Senate, the majority of what has occurred since 1913 by the Centralized Government would not have been possible. The Supreme Court would not have been allowed to legislate from the bench and Federal Courts within each state would've been relegated to adjudicating disputes in commerce. The DNC and RNC would not have become permanent fixtures on the political landscape, the corporations and corporate bribery that drives DC politics wouldn't have ever gotten involved and what little influence they would've had over the House members wouldn't have played well within their home districts. Everything we face today evolved out of the states being stripped of their right to their equal suffrage in the Senate, including the creation of Monopoly Nationalized Media, and civil rights expressed as grouped privileges.

And why did you feel the need to say "YOU who is the ignorant one", did I call your comment ignorant? No, I didn't, so why the accusatory "YOU"?

Hitch
18th September 2015, 09:32 AM
I differ with your conclusion.
The US didn't.......YOU DID!

In 1868 the 14th was passed to give the newly free'd negro a status.

Are you suggesting palani was alive back in 1868? He must have because 'he did this'.

Palani, when you turn 160 years old, let us know because that's a birthday every man should celebrate.

palani
18th September 2015, 09:48 AM
the Bouviers thingy there doesn't say much of anything
It speaks volumes but only to one who has the ability to reason. This is an art you are incompetent in.

If you go to court as yourself they are going to assign you a title called PRO SE or YOU REPRESENT YOURSELF. In idiot is incapable of representing himself and can only appear AS HIMSELF, in person. Learn to humble yourself with the label idiot and you will go far, young cricket.


Why is it you never fully disclose what it is you are referencing?
Why do you constantly look for authority. I am the only authority I know so why should I rely upon any other authority?


entomology!?!?
So the Greek version of "idiot" is one who is a private person....I still haven't figured out where you're going with this.
Of course not. You prefer babbling.


.you're calling me an idiot and using these two "thingy's" you take as proof? Wrong again. I called you ignorant ... and I only did so because you presumed to teach me ignorance.

palani
18th September 2015, 09:54 AM
Are you suggesting palani was alive back in 1868? He must have because 'he did this'.

People are really good at figuring out how to change PLACE (geography) but they really suck when it comes to correcting the record based upon TIME. Of course you can correct any record at any time and you can even do so back to 2,000 B.C. or year ZERO A.D. You correct a record by admitting you are doing something NOW that you should have done THEN. A shorthand to this is NUNC PRO TUNC (now for then). Courts have this power. Courts get all their powers from the People so that means YOU (and I) have this power as well.

7th_Trump is correct in a sense because I have failed to correct a record then 'he did this'.

7th trump
18th September 2015, 10:41 AM
Are you suggesting palani was alive back in 1868? He must have because 'he did this'.

Palani, when you turn 160 years old, let us know because that's a birthday every man should celebrate.

No, what I'm saying is in 1868 the 14th amendment created a second class of citizen outside "We the People". It was this class that Congress has jurisdiction over. And this class of citizen was for any one and everyone. That is the colored races don't have a choice but the white man has. The white man doesn't have to be this class of citizen.
Palani beleives the 14th created another country (a constitution inside another constitution)...which is bullshit because the the 14th is just an amendment of the original.....hes a bit confused.
Every time anyone signs any government form under penalty of perjury to being a US citizen that document is saying you are entering federal jurisdiction and will be recognized without much of the Bill of Rights protections.
So today in 2015 you sign a government form under penalty of perjury you are entering federal jurisdiction.

7th trump
18th September 2015, 10:53 AM
If the states had retained their representation within the Senate, the majority of what has occurred since 1913 by the Centralized Government would not have been possible. The Supreme Court would not have been allowed to legislate from the bench and Federal Courts within each state would've been relegated to adjudicating disputes in commerce. The DNC and RNC would not have become permanent fixtures on the political landscape, the corporations and corporate bribery that drives DC politics wouldn't have ever gotten involved and what little influence they would've had over the House members wouldn't have played well within their home districts. Everything we face today evolved out of the states being stripped of their right to their equal suffrage in the Senate, including the creation of Monopoly Nationalized Media, and civil rights expressed as grouped privileges.

And why did you feel the need to say "YOU who is the ignorant one", did I call your comment ignorant? No, I didn't, so why the accusatory "YOU"?

Because it is YOU who is ignorant of what you've done to yourself. It was YOU who stood before the government and claimed to be in their jurisdiction under penalty of perjury.
The states still hold their representation and really has no bearing on your individual rights. Corporation have nothing to do with your individual rights on the Constituional level either.

7th trump
18th September 2015, 11:30 AM
It speaks volumes but only to one who has the ability to reason. This is an art you are incompetent in.

If you go to court as yourself they are going to assign you a title called PRO SE or YOU REPRESENT YOURSELF. In idiot is incapable of representing himself and can only appear AS HIMSELF, in person. Learn to humble yourself with the label idiot and you will go far, young cricket.


Why do you constantly look for authority. I am the only authority I know so why should I rely upon any other authority?

Of course not. You prefer babbling.

Wrong again. I called you ignorant ... and I only did so because you presumed to teach me ignorance.

So you think a judge is going to look at you as an idiot because that's what Greek entomology says they should think?
Bahahahahahahaha............!

Hey fool!
Just what do you think the Founding Fathers had in mind when they formed the nation?
Lawyers were outlawed in this country back in those days. You had to represent yourself.
Abraham Lincoln taught himself law and he eventually became president.

Wow are you a special kind of stupid!

You know Palani your "root cause" doesn't go very deep. It goes about as deep as you can push your finger to the back of your nose to pick that last booger.

palani
18th September 2015, 12:04 PM
So you think a judge is going to look at you as an idiot because that's what Greek entomology says they should think?

With my cattle I do as I will. With my neighbors cattle ... less so.

Carl
18th September 2015, 01:27 PM
Because it is YOU who is ignorant of what you've done to yourself. It was YOU who stood before the government and claimed to be in their jurisdiction under penalty of perjury.
The states still hold their representation and really has no bearing on your individual rights. Corporation have nothing to do with your individual rights on the Constituional level either.
OK sport, what the fuck ever, it's your delusion, tell it as you please.....

7th trump
18th September 2015, 03:59 PM
OK sport, what the fuck ever, it's your delusion, tell it as you please.....

Just show me one example of a private corporation that has strip "We the People" of their Constitutional protections.
If you can that person is a billionaire after such a lawsuit.....Ok sport!


Or you can join Palani in the corner with your finger deep in your nose picking that last booger.

Carl
18th September 2015, 07:55 PM
Just show me one example of a private corporation that has strip "We the People" of their Constitutional protections.
If you can that person is a billionaire after such a lawsuit.....Ok sport!

Or you can join Palani in the corner with your finger deep in your nose picking that last booger.

First, QUOTE ME MOTHERFUCKER, quote where I said or even intimated that "corporations has strip "We the People" of their Constitutional protections".

7th trump
18th September 2015, 08:05 PM
First, QUOTE ME MOTHERFUCKER, quote where I said or even intimated that "corporations has strip "We the People" of their Constitutional protections".

Thats what I got out of your silliness.

Carl
18th September 2015, 08:23 PM
Thats what I got out of your silliness.

If that's all you got out of what I wrote, something I didn't even say, then you're an even bigger idiot than palani.

7th trump
18th September 2015, 08:42 PM
If that's all you got out of what I wrote, something I didn't even say, then you're an even bigger idiot than palani.

Like I said............just silliness and gibberish.

Hitch
18th September 2015, 09:03 PM
Or you can join Palani in the corner with your finger deep in your nose picking that last booger.

7th, you completely destroy threads on this forum with attacks and insults. It takes away from your argument. All folks see is blah blah blah more rudeness.

Honest question, do you treat people you interact in person this way? You are a religious guy, do you treat other church members this way?

It makes no sense to get on an internet forum and treat others in such a rude manner. You have a lot of knowledge about the Bible, why not follow some of it?

You are making religion look bad. Why would I want to go to church to get blasted with judgements and insults?

Just a few questions....

Carl
18th September 2015, 09:28 PM
Like I said............just silliness and gibberish.

It's only "silliness and gibberish" to you because you lack the mental capacity to extrapolate.
You're just a regurgitator of what you've been told to believe.

palani
19th September 2015, 03:44 AM
you're an even bigger idiot than palani.

Thanks but I believe you have the concept of 'idiot' all wrong. We don't come in different sizes. You either are one or you are not. I admit to being of this status because it does not allow appearance by agent and is a slur cast at someone not in the system by someone within the system.

By not being an idiot you are someone's livestock and are bound by their rules.

7th trump
19th September 2015, 08:45 AM
Thanks but I believe you have the concept of 'idiot' all wrong. We don't come in different sizes. You either are one or you are not. I admit to being of this status because it does not allow appearance by agent and is a slur cast at someone not in the system by someone within the system.

By not being an idiot you are someone's livestock and are bound by their rules.

So says the guy who uses foreign unrelated entomology to prove a useless point.

palani
19th September 2015, 04:49 PM
So says the guy who uses foreign unrelated entomology to prove a useless point.
ETYMOLOGY you fool!!!!

Dogman
19th September 2015, 04:58 PM
I just love it when you two toss hand grenades at each other!

Fact!

You both make me think and also make me study to see who, maybe right or more properly who is more right!

Total hoot!

And sometimes educational!

And entertaining always!

Carry on from one in the peanut gallery!

;D

Sent from my Nexus 7

palani
19th September 2015, 05:39 PM
You both make me think and also make me study to see who, maybe right or more properly who is more right!

There is no singular solution. Everyone is free to wage his/her own law. By my law 7th_trump is missing vital critical analysis. By 7th_trump's law his definition of the rabbit hole is the ONLY one that can rationalize his universe. His universe allows him to rise in the morning, work all day and permits him the ILLUSION of control.

Dogman
19th September 2015, 05:50 PM
There is no singular solution. Everyone is free to wage his/her own law. By my law 7th_trump is missing vital critical analysis. By 7th_trump's law his definition of the rabbit hole is the ONLY one that can rationalize his universe. His universe allows him to rise in the morning, work all day and permits him the ILLUSION of control.Peanut gallery will remain silent after this post !

Have at it guys, wailing away at each other, just try to keep the blood splatter down to manageable levels !

You two are a total hoot in my opinion !

mick silver
20th September 2015, 07:44 AM
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