A old clock

[Dogman]

Have a very old tall grandfather clock that may date into the 1750's give or take?

Story is when my mom and step dad split the sheet, she left my two younger brothers with their father and moved me back to texas, but at the time the grand fokes could not take us. So my uncle in San Antonio took us in for a tad.

1961

While there the bed I was given (fold up old school) had a long cardboard box under it.

The story on the box is my uncle who was in the air force until the retired was in the army air force, (brown shoes) and ether he or a friend bought this clock in the mid 40's or very early 50's which was in pieces (wood and clockwork) for $ 1 dollar while in France.

Then we moved here with the grand parents (mine) blah, blah, blah,

In abt 1965 a new house was built, because the old one was tight living, and shortly after that box showed up, my uncle gave grandfather the clock. Very soon after he took the box to a clockmaker that lived north of here and time went on. Next clue was one day granddad had two brass tubes with a couple of bags of lead bird shot in the back of the truck, (1951 Chevy, which I also learned to drive with) That were turned into the weights you see in the pic's!

Then a month or so after a month or so, that box was not a box it was a tall grandfather clock, (think the whole thing took a tad less than a year. )

Story was as told by the clock guy , the clock was ether built by ether the oldest clockmaker in france or germany or the second? I think france.

That thing has ran where it was setup for over 40 years here , until it started getting very touchy about running and then I stopped it.

Story goes as best of my memory, is the clock was built in the mid 1700's and the clock maker said in the mid 1960's not to sell it for anything less than $ 10,000 ! The reason I still remember it that was a very huge amount of money then, more so than now.

To look at it , I could not figure why, that clock was and still looked beat up, like it went through a war or two, (which it probably had, and changed owners god knows how many times)

The hips (where the pendulum swings) inside the tool marks can be seen where they were chopped out to give the pendulum clearance.

Starting to need the money so I started looking for a buyer, and today I have started the process.

Here are a few shots,

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[Dogman]

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[Dogman]

Over the years , at odd times, I have tried to translate the words on the clock face, and so far no luck.

It chimes the hour and then 5 minuets it does it again.

Also on the half hour.

As I said , not sure how many European wars it has survived.

[madfranks]

Nice looking clock! Tweet it to Obama and maybe he'll invite you to the white house. On second thought, your clock doesn't look enough like a bomb, so maybe not.

[Santa]

Nice... I can't quite get the words or names on the clock face but they may not tell as much as the construction of the mechanism itself about what you have there.
There are rough hewn aspects about the wood that suggest the long case is of country origin, (Normandy)?? maybe country church or parson's clock. Just a thought. Very cool, though.
There are a lot of folks knowledgeable about antique clocks... I'm not....but I'd bet if you take pics to an antique dealer they could direct you to a source of info.
IMO, don't try to sell it til you know as much as possible about what it is.


French clockmaking came into its own in the 17th century, when highly ornamented clocks covered in gilt bronze, known as ormolu, were produced to keep pace with the new standards for opulence set by King Louis the Fourteenth’s Palace of Versailles.

There were two general styles of antique French clocks during this period. One was known as boulle, which refers to a clock cased in tortoiseshell and inlaid with brass, pewter, porcelain, and ivory. The second type was called religieuse, in which brass and pewter overlays were set in ebony veneers on oak.

During the Regency period (from roughly 1715 to 1723), bracket clocks, which had been popular a century before, came back into prominence. A bracket clock could be hung on a wall or placed on a table, making it a flexible timepiece compared to, say, the longcase clocks that were also being produced at that time. Rococo pendule, for pendulum, clocks featured curvaceous profiles and seemingly endless decorative detailing.

By the time Louis the Sixteenth assumed the throne (he reigned from 1774 to 1791 and was executed in 1793), clockmakers were producing highly accurate regulators, skeleton clocks whose exposed works were protected from dust by glass domes, and mantel clocks festooned with everything from bronze Greek and Roman statuary to cherubs.

This was also the era of cartel clocks. Housed in elaborate cast-bronze or gold-leaf-on-wood frames (cartel is French for frame), these French wall clocks often featured Roman numerals on white dials surrounded by gilt garlands and figurines. One of the many makers of these sorts of clocks, as well as other styles, was Frederick Japy, whose Japy Freres would become the leading French clockmaker in the 19th century.

From the 18th century onward, longcase clocks were made in Normandy at Saint-Nicholas-d'Aliermont, near Dieppe. This was a localized industry, and these clocks rarely made it outside of Normandy. Tall, thin, and key-wound, Normandy clocks had short pendulums, were rope driven, and featured enamelled faces and ornately carved hoods.

Comtoise clocks, the name given to the standard variety of French longcase clocks found all over France, were made in the Jura region of Franche Compté. A spring-wound variation ...
More... http://www.collectorsweekly.com/breweriana/beer-clocks

[Glass]

I think Santa's advice is good. To find out as much as you can about it. Often they will have makers marks on them IT might be a patch of paper stuck to it somewhere. Often times it's easily visible on the back but it might be inside the clockwork area, underneath on the base. On the back of the clock face sometimes.

I would say it's French or Belgium origin. Perhaps a clock from a Railway station.

What about running it past some one like this guy:
http://www.pacificantiqueclocks.com/restoration.htm

I'm curious about the inner dial with 31 graduations on it. I guess it is for days of the month perhaps?

[Twisted Titan]

Take that to the fellas on the antique roads show

You will find the history and maybe a high end buyer.

Its a beautiful clock.

[Dogman]

I think Santa's advice is good. To find out as much as you can about it. Often they will have makers marks on them IT might be a patch of paper stuck to it somewhere. Often times it's easily visible on the back but it might be inside the clockwork area, underneath on the base. On the back of the clock face sometimes.

I would say it's French or Belgium origin. Perhaps a clock from a Railway station.

What about running it past some one like this guy:
http://www.pacificantiqueclocks.com/restoration.htm

I'm curious about the inner dial with 31 graduations on it. I guess it is for days of the month perhaps? Yes it does have a calendar. Thanks for the contact I just finished contacting him.

I know it does have value, how much is the question that will be fun to find the answer! I have nobody to pass it on to, so why not find someone that would love to give it a good home and also throw money at me.. ;D

I have two other old pieces that the family history says were transported by ship (wooden windjammer) around the cape (think cape horn) that I am going to try and find homes for also. Both made in the early 1800's or so.

[Twisted Titan]

I have 3 mercury dimes for one that took the trip around The Cape.

I want your personal autograph on the bill of sale to add to the mystic.

[Dogman]

It would take more than 3 silver dimes, for both of them.

One is a curved glass sides curio cabinet with a mirror inset above the top of the cabinet.

Sorta like this one,

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7873&stc=1

The other is a carved wood hall coat tree with large central mirror.

I can not find anything similar on the net to show an example.

I do not have at this time have the gumption to dig them out to take a picture at this time.

But I do expect that I will someday soon find my hard hat and pick to dig them out of the mess, one or both pieces made the boat trip and I am fairly sure were in the family (grandmaws) side at least from the mid to late 1800's onward.

[mick silver]

just got a cabinet like that . this winter I will restore it for my wife . they don't make um like that anymore

[Ponce]

Old clock?......... fuiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii ufffffffffffffffffffff..........no good, put it with your trash outside your home.......Ponce<-------- the trash collector.

V

[Dogman]

Old clock?......... fuiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii ufffffffffffffffffffff..........no good, put it with your trash outside your home.......Ponce<-------- the trash collector.

V Friend !

Eat shit and then have the after taste for a month or so !

And may the taste be rich and lasting !

;D

[Ponce]

We do have different taste in food.......never eat what a dog eats.

V

[Dogman]

We do have different taste in food.......never eat what a dog eats.

VUnless you ever meet me you truely would never know, the human side of the dog, does love international style cooking from many country's, national dishes but mostly street food that the majority of the people love.

From one pot meals to multi coarse.

Peace !

Tho you started it !

Grin