Lunar Wave (Hologram?) Events

[singular_me]

already posted about that guy several months ago

Years of research has a sky photographer convinced that the moon is a hologram.

His belief is based around ‘lunar waves’ which he has captured on film and uploaded to his youtube channel which he claims prove that it is a hologram and covering up something else.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgGJPK-upA0




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-QM0fYiy50&feature=em-subs_digest

[mick silver]

Missing in Alaska: Zombies of HAARP (44 min) tv-pg The Aurora Borealis has been seen as a mystical force in Alaska for many centuries, but could a manmade version be used for mind control?

[StreetsOfGold]

The moon is a LIGHT, not a place!

Genesis 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light (not a PLACE!) to rule the night: he made the stars also.

If men just believed what God said about HIS creation, people could never be deceived by men landing on a "light" and this phenomenon of this wave actually makes sense in light (pun intended) of the FACT that the moon is a light and (evil) men today are messing with putting imagery in the sky.

[Glass]

I've been checking in on his videos regularly along with Terral03 who is the dark star & earthquake activity correlating guy.

This last moon was the big one for the moon wave crowd. They were gearing up to get as much footage as they could. These waves only seem to be visible around major solstice. Looking forward to seeing what he and others were able to get on the night.

[Neuro]

A hologram could hardly create tidal waves imho... So how are those explained?

[Horn]

These waves only seem to be

I agree with the above statement, nothing more.

[Glass]

Heres an interesting interview with Crrow777 about Luna Wave and some other things. NASA sending rockets up and them coming back down out of view. Or how rocket launch videos always suddenly stop when it gets to the apex of it's flight path. how there are no videos of a full launch including the transition into space. I think they said there is one but it's a chop job.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fow5RqwaWcA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fow5RqwaWcA

The last Part of this got cut off. Final 8 minutes here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQkwEggQJzk

[Glass]

I'll quickly post this other video by Crrow777.

He did an interesting video about 2 weeks ago and he used the Back to the Future movies. Apparently this is a re-post from something he did a while back.

He talks about how Hollywood movies often include the tracking of the sun in them. Apart from the 911 clues in Back to the Future, I think he raises some interesting observations. I have to say I didn't really pick up on these when watching the movies but now he points them out there are some interesting questions to be answered.

Basically the gist of it is, that when ever the DeLorean launches into space and time it does it through a Cinema or a Movie screen. Think of wild west one, where he launches from a Drive In (movie place). When he launches from 1950's Hill Valley or Hill Dale he heads straight toward the towns cinema.

All sounds good until we get to #3 and it's a bridge into a ravine. Don't know the resolution for that one. Anyway the point is they encode this into movies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wluW0jgDsls

[Hillbilly]

already posted about that guy several months ago

Years of research has a sky photographer convinced that the moon is a hologram.

His belief is based around ‘lunar waves’ which he has captured on film and uploaded to his youtube channel which he claims prove that it is a hologram and covering up something else.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgGJPK-upA0




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-QM0fYiy50&feature=em-subs_digest

That is some trippy theory.... wow!

[singular_me]

That is some trippy theory.... wow!

NOTHING is what it seems... maybe life itself is a trippy theory ???

[Hillbilly]

NOTHING is what it seems... maybe life itself is a trippy theory ???

The more I look into the more I think we are on some aliens computer.

[Neuro]

The more I look into the more I think we are on some aliens computer.
That's life on the lunatic fringe for ya! It could also be that someone DON'T want you to discuss the reality. The collapse of the western world, Israels wars in the Middle East, degeneracy of traditional moral...

[Glass]

That's life on the lunatic fringe for ya! It could also be that someone DON'T want you to discuss the reality. The collapse of the western world, Israels wars in the Middle East, degeneracy of traditional moral...

There is clearly something going on up there. Whether it is as far out as the moon is supposed to be or if it is closure to us and only can be seen because of the moons backdrop I don't know, but something odd definitely.

Venus is transparent?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp1TxJhHpZQ&spfreload=10


A call to try and film Venus when it is occulted (occultated?) by the moon in December. Could be a good opportunity to see if the moon is transparent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhkMwtcYq7Y

[Glass]

Luna wave shill weaves dis info, NASA moon mission frauds, ancient alien artefacts and buildings, steals others research, material and footage.

Produces a web site that tells people to look for the luna wave on the soltices not the equinoxes.

Crrow777 video addressing it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdZNtIOjDvg

Official debunking effort = legitimate questions about the subject matter can be considered valid?? It's looking that way.

[Cebu_4_2]

Easy explination...


http://youtu.be/uqUa_G1h3pw
https://youtu.be/uqUa_G1h3pw

[Glass]

Crrow777 has a blog running on thehighersidechats.com

There is also a podcast launching this month.

While this guy is focussed on the Luna Wave as his main thing, its not his only thing. He is like the rest of us, awake and switched on to everything we talk about here. I actually didn't realise this until I was reading his latest Blog. He has posted a couple already.

I haven't been to this highersidechats web site before. Anyone know anything about it?

Also Crrow777 was a regular guest on an AM Show that apparently looked into 911, money, elite etc But they recieved a list of things they could not discuss, 911, holocaust, all the FF shooting events etc. The presenters said. hey no way. Show got axed.

Hence the new place but I think it's Crrow777 going it alone as host.

[Neuro]

Crrow777 has a blog running on thehighersidechats.com

There is also a podcast launching this month.

While this guy is focussed on the Luna Wave as his main thing, its not his only thing. He is like the rest of us, awake and switched on to everything we talk about here. I actually didn't realise this until I was reading his latest Blog. He has posted a couple already.

I haven't been to this highersidechats web site before. Anyone know anything about it?

Also Crrow777 was a regular guest on an AM Show that apparently looked into 911, money, elite etc But they recieved a list of things they could not discuss, 911, holocaust, all the FF shooting events etc. The presenters said. hey no way. Show got axed.

Hence the new place but I think it's Crrow777 going it alone as host.
So the main most public proponent of lunar wave agreed to do a show, not mentioning the holocaust, ff, 911. An indication perhaps of who he works for? Or did I read you wrong?

[Glass]

yes read wrong.

He was a regular guest on a show but the network started dictating what were unacceptable topics. The radio show said no. Network said cya, shows over.

[Glass]

Chem trails and bad weather have been interferring with the luna observations so Crrow777 has been reposting some of his earlier clips. He moved from California to washington?? I know he moved up north but I think he also went to the east coast.

He has refiltered some and others had more meaning in recent times so he revisited them. Some interesting stuff in some of them.

A high altitude craft with thrusters firing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfDR_kXFhH0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfDR_kXFhH0

That one is pretty interesting. Certainly looks like a craft. The rockets look to cover one whole surface of the vehicle. So the thruster to vehicle ration looks about 50/50 or 40/60.

Could it simply be a rock which is skimming the atmosphere and the 3 points are projections from the rock and they are the main parts that are encountering the atmosphere? glowing red?

Capturing a Vortex near the moon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gorv586kruM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gorv586kruM

Again. interesting. Supposition is that this cone shaped flash is a vortex opening up quickly. Talks about the SciFi Portal, Worm Hole, Star Gate meme and how every time these gate ways are depicted they are depicted with a water or water like surface. It's a consistently used image and he wonders if thats because space is actually water.

Lunar flashes and Solar Eclipse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwNC2S1qaMI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwNC2S1qaMI

When the sun is being eclipsed, which obviously happens during day light, it is not possible to see the moon until it passes/occults the moon. Can't say I've heard that or maybe didn't pay enough attention.

The point is that, if the moon was approaching the sun, why is the moon not back lit or side lit or at least visible before it starts the occultation? This would suggest that the moon is not the body doing the occulting. So I'm thinking perhaps it is this dark/invisble body that we are tracking in the solar system since 2010? Terral03 and crew.

That could answer a couple questions. Going back to the premise that our solar system is unique in that it does not have a binary sun arrangement, when in fact it probably does but one is invisible to our eyes.

[Glass]

last couple vids

Lunar Waves through the Chemtrails

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTaPzltFZ2A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTaPzltFZ2A

meh, shows some footage of heavily chemtrailed nights. Some how the chem trails thnned out just enough for him to catch the lunar wave after all. A real stroke of luck. Some other anomalies that show up with different filters.

Finally and cross over with Grav Waves.
Luna waves and Grav waves are not the same thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk7ic4n6Qes


Crrow777 channel (https://www.youtube.com/user/Crrow777/videos)

[Joshua01]

Human beings will fucking believe anything they're told!

[singular_me]

well, when AI will be here it will blow your mind and NOT in the good way.

but what you say is understandable since most people do not comprehend the bible to start with, which is why we are in this mega mess.

the best position is to keep a mind open, looking into everything but not especially believing it. As for the moon being hollow, I will remain neutral and wait for more data. If people were doing this central banking wouldnt exist. So yes, the Mind will forever remain the core issue.

Peer pressure is a scourge, social, religious and scientific, the NWO feeds off of it and uses that very inertia to propel itself and create paradigms that herd humans, whatever the latter is .

The day people become less judgmental, TRUTH will surface a lot faster. Or right away.

Look for The Mind Revolution by corbett on utube. Either we surrender to the chaos theory for a greater good or chaos will obliterate/enslave us all. God's Law.

[Shami-Amourae]

This:
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/60945342

(http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/60945342)http://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1452/75/1452755062754.jpg

[Joshua01]

The next thing we'll see is someone who will tell us that the air isn't real. Jesus Fuckin Christ on a stick....how dumb are we????

[Glass]

This is a very good video example captured by crrow777.

2 lunar waves in succession plus some other anomalies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u5Bh5PJGuI

I'm wondering if it is some kind of earth atmospheric wave that is causing a slight refraction. The difficulty lies in the fact there is no lit backdrop so outside the boundaries of the moon its difficult to see if there is any wave goiing out either side.

On appearances it does not look that way. It does look like it is contained to the moons boundaries.

When analysing the footage he will often run it through some filters to bring up the contrast and that helps a little at the boundaries but it would help to have a brighter back drop. Darn you outer space!

The other point to raise is these waves seem to occur only at certain times of the year. The equinoxes and maybe the solstices. Not sure about the solstices but definately at the equinoxes. That was the big gearing up this easter to get as many people filming as possible.

[Glass]

ok so the very next video in the collection Crrow777 states that the waves are local to the moon. Based on video captured in 2012 which so far is the best they have obtained.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe5NJ-RSK8c

[Neuro]

This is a very good video example captured by crrow777.

2 lunar waves in succession plus some other anomalies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u5Bh5PJGuI

I'm wondering if it is some kind of earth atmospheric wave that is causing a slight refraction. The difficulty lies in the fact there is no lit backdrop so outside the boundaries of the moon its difficult to see if there is any wave goiing out either side.

On appearances it does not look that way. It does look like it is contained to the moons boundaries.

When analysing the footage he will often run it through some filters to bring up the contrast and that helps a little at the boundaries but it would help to have a brighter back drop. Darn you outer space!

The other point to raise is these waves seem to occur only at certain times of the year. The equinoxes and maybe the solstices. Not sure about the solstices but definately at the equinoxes. That was the big gearing up this easter to get as many people filming as possible.

Yes I am thinking maybe it could be a meteorite exploding at a distance away as it enters atmosphere/stratosphere, giving a wave, like a ring on the water as a stone hits the surface. The moon being a hologram that is being updated I think is impossible. Would be interesting to correlate these lunar wave events with the earths passage through meteor areas.

[Serpo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X0HgFWsNlk&nohtml5=False

[Glass]

I've been catching Crrow777's radio shows. 1st hour only, as the 2nd hour is subscription only. I might have to spring some $ for access to those. Rarely am I compelled to think about forking over $$.

These are audio only. This episode is an interview Crrow does with 2 people who have been following his YT channel. I think one introduced the other. Now one is a natural healer. Using THC type treatments. They talk about the Luna wave and a few other things. The flatness of the horizon, the rate of curvature of the earth etc. How astronomy is based on the Northern hemisphere sky only.

Crrow is not an FE'er so please don't let that stop you from listening if you have any interest, because it's other topics that are interesting here.

The other guy is more interesting for a couple reasons. He is a former US baseball league-r. He has some interesting insights. All national baseball league outcomes are rigged. It is likely all US sport league games are rigged because it's all run by the same networks of people.

Also, he has some interesting experiences with cameras and air flights. He has been a videographer since the 1970's. He says that fish eye and wide angle lenses have only been around for 20 - 30 years. No more than that. And available to the average joe for even less time. This is a big thing in FE. The Go Pro distorts the perception of the world and makes it look like a curved horizon when there is none. I brushed that FE angle off as stupidity. Not considering that these lenses had not been around very long. Maybe someone could dig up some old photography/videography magazines that announced their arrival?

He has also travelled in the Concorde. He had the opportunity to spend a whole flight on the flight deck. He even video'd a whole journey from that vantage point. He is going to dig out his recordings to share. He says that it seemed to him you could only get on a Concorde if you were a secret handshaker. Raises personal questions for me.

But he said, travelling at 1500kph at such a height. There is no curvature and there is no adjustment in flight path for the falling away of the earths surface. The concorde may have been discontinued because things like photography tech was so accessible.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrqKT94Xm10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrqKT94Xm10

[Glass]

I'm going to skip one in the sequence of radio shows Crrow777 has recorded. This one is too good to hold back even for a minute.

Please note that someone has registered Crrow777.com domain and is posting his shows and pretending to be him. His domain is crrow777radio.com. This tells you he is onto something.

An interview he does with a UK man who is living in spain. Topics:
Chemtrails. even in spain. When the interviewer migrated to Spain there were only ever blue skies. Now it's painted with chem trails. He lives within sight of the airport and he says these chem trail planes are not commercial flights. They don't come up on the flight plan tracker systems.

Deception in your face. McCartney dying and being replaced by a guy called William (Bill) who is introduced in Stg Peppers. We'd like to introduce you today. Bill Shere. (Bill's here. Bill is here.) New McCartney appears in 1966 after real one is killed in accident. Decapitated. Is taller. No more live tours, ever! Grows a mustache to cover plastic surgery. Many signs.

Other deceptions discussed. 911 etc.

Tunnig of music from 432Hz to 440Hz. Devils interval - strange cord used extensively in R&R and blues. Also used nearly 300 years ago by some guy I can't remember. This one is 100% on the money.

Beatles music caused hysteria not just as a concept of excitement. It actually induced hysteria - mental illness, especially in teens. Causing them to loose their bladders and so on, in these crowds, girls were actually wetting themselves. Induced hysteria.

Space is water or liquid. Many popular culture references to this. SciFi, songs etc. water has memory. Shows some examples of those experiments the Japanese man did.

Words and "spelling". How words induce thoughts and capture minds. some good examples.

My comments: On the words thing. I concluded this myself a year or so ago. I didn't twig on the word "spelling" but now it seems so bloody obvious. You use words to cast spells. We are at 0.5% comprehension compared to the ones higher up, that spells can be cast.

These people are casting spells on us. They are using our energy. They are building it, causing it to amass, then drawing it off and using it to cast spells. Mass events like rock concerts, super bowls, nascars. These gatherings are times when they do this. I try to explain to people that spells are real and they are cast. If you look at the depiction of witches or warlocks they use WORDS and MOVEMENT when they cast a spell. Waving a wand about, building the energy and then firing it at their target. You can see that this is not just something found in books or movies. They do this in real life. You can see rock events where they do this. The "artist" is really the one building the energy and then using it to cast spells. We've analyzed these things before.

NLP is a real thing - my experience. The Jedi Mind trick is a real thing.

back to the show. Well worth listening. Covers a lot of subjects in this interview and they give some good things to look up and confirm.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K_6nSi-jsU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K_6nSi-jsU

[Serpo]

Yes I am thinking maybe it could be a meteorite exploding at a distance away as it enters atmosphere/stratosphere, giving a wave, like a ring on the water as a stone hits the surface. The moon being a hologram that is being updated I think is impossible. Would be interesting to correlate these lunar wave events with the earths passage through meteor areas.


when they hit the moon with a bomb it rang for hours(hollow?) hologram would have difficulty doing this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5uHkmEJuMU

[Neuro]

when they hit the moon with a bomb it rang for hours(hollow?) hologram would have difficulty doing this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5uHkmEJuMU

I don't trust anything coming out of the Apollo program. I don't think humans has gone above far earth orbit!

[Glass]

This is the interview I skipped posting earlier. I want to add some key point notes about the discussion because it is a very good interview. This is the person who is trying to summarise the Hattybov material. They discuss much more than this and it is very good over all. This is the 1st hour only.

Weaponised Music , 432Hz v 44oHz music tuning and who drove that agenda, Rock n Roll deaths, Beatles, McCartney, Ringo Starr, Knights of the Crown, Satanic NASA, Cern, Firmament, Hubbard, JFK


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z17NFmMov0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z17NFmMov0

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z17NFmMov0)I finished the second hour of this one. Was quite good. A few more threads to follow and check out. He states in his mind that the hattybov material has been produced by several people. Either in concert or several peoples material has been drawn on and joined or some one is fiddling with the material similarly to the elders of zion material. Lengthy discussion on music and how these artists seem to die around the same age. 27 seems to be a popular age to die. That Paul Mcartney is definitely not Paul. They call him Faul McCartney. Beatles never played live after the supposed death. lots of clues in the music and artwork. Refer to the Rotten apple YT playlist (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlQHoelGzbM&list=PLB65AEBE5C0104BFC) which compiles some interesting material,

Fauls name is William Shears (or campbell in some cases maybe). He is mentioned by name many times. John actually calls him by that name in a tv documentary thing when it's being recorded. Williams name appears on a tombstone in a music video which I think is part of the yellow submarine movie. Many other "clues". Paul was left handed and post 1966 Faul could not play left handed.

That there may have been as many as 4 different people paying Michael Jackson over time. How the top famous artists don't seem to be able to produce the same amazing music they did in their 20's in later life. As if they were not the same person. Died and replaced?

[Glass]

This is an interview with someone called Dave J, a you tuber. Apparently a contentious person but I don't know of him before now AFAIK. He has left america and is living somewhere in Asia now.

This is an excellent 1st hour interview.

sky spirals, CERN, colors, primary colors, sound/color experiments, using color as a weapon, star (fame) deaths, famous death explained, old texts, Cain, Tubalcain, masons, logos, Vatican, sun tracking, Saturn, time, Chronos, sandy, Santa Claus, winter as hell, solstice, cymatics, human learning, flat earth, distance of sun & moon

Some of those topics must be in part 2. Cern is part 2 for sure. Sky spirals.

Discusses some numerology. How the number sequences build up. 911 is a number sequence missing the number 10. And in some kind of compression it returns upon it self and replays. I get the impression this is why 911 is so significant in historical events - of destructon. Words as thoughts. What NEWS means. I knew that one.

Colours are frequencies and frequencies have tones - colours have tones. Voices have tones. God created everything with "the Word".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3UOjpIDAPE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3UOjpIDAPE

Very good. I'm listening to part II.

They discuss how these frequencies create things. Frequencies can create things or they can be destructive as well. This is the Octaves thing, The Harmonics - which are a step away from the core frequency, but resonate with it. Not it, but like it. We all know vocal harmonies.

Colours are frequencies. Primary colour designations have changed since the 1970s. Used to be Red Blue Yellow?? Now is Red Blue Green since digitisation. Yellow is a something I don't grasp. A supplemental. If you get all those colours, accelerate them they merge into an almost black. A black like the darkness of an eclipse. Not quite black. My Thoughts - Perhaps the black we see on our new digital TV's. We put it down to lack of contrast but maybe it is meant to be that colour.

Cern is trying to create new frequencies. They want to create a new colour which gives them the frequencies to create the things they want to more tightly hold the human mind with what they want to make it absorb. He tests this himself and has videos demonstrating this. He also says that what becomes visible is a man type creature. Green in colour - the green man. Demon? ghost in the machine idea - X Files had an episode on this concept. US 2 dollar bill - rear picture. Man in the hat on the back. Seen through out time. Saturn is shown. Appears to be playing an instrument. Satan gave instructions on how to make musical instruments. Are used to transmit information.

[Glass]

I am having increasing problems access these threads, hattybov, harmonics etc,. internet stops, browsers thrash. try and try again.

Finished listening to part II. One of the more dominant discussions commences half past the second hour. The topic who are the Masons. What is their thing.

There thing is this in Tumbleweeds thread: http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?88872-Jews-the-children-of-Satan&p=828628#post828628

They lament "will there be no mercy for this widows son". Wow even typing that was tough. Whos this widows sun? It is Cain. They discuss how he is the servant of satan or of death. Strangely coincidental someone would post material on this very subject on another discussion covers this within a few days of that. I had not heard this before Tumbleweed posted it, Now I have it two times in rapid succession.

Cain was the first mason, he built the first city. He was given metalurgy. He was given music. The masons were 3 who each held a syllable (syll - able?) of the name of God. Someone died and they lost part of that name and I suppose power that went with it. Their ceremonies of the steps are renditions of biblical text in play form. But they are worshipers of the death. I have heard this name of god story before perhaps from other discussions of Masons or of other groups.

The discuss ancient history which is fabricated. We marvel how history has these kind of figures that repeat through out "time" when in fact they are just stories repeated, same underlying characters with different names. Can't think of anything else just now so I'll come back and add anything later on.

[Glass]

I went to this Dave J channel. He has a lot of videos. The Crrow interview discusses his frame of mind for many months, being attacked, projecting that back out. A lot of his material is strange to say the least. It lacks back story in a lot of cases. It comes across a bit like savant. He seemed very obsessed with the idea that multiple people on the world stage are being played by one person. And I don't see the resemblences that he sees.

The Interview was a completely different person.

BUT he is extremely observant. He sees things that are minute in detail. And There are some gems.

Tarrot Magician overlaid with the Kabalah tree of life. There is a ton of stuff in that tarrot. Doves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67Ja4-hNSfo

this is quite startling to me. I am a fan of a show called Red Dwarf. I know the people who wrote it are the same as who writes all these shows. But the images, the over lay and his comments just pull it all together. Probably needs a thread of it's own to lay it out. Main character is the Last human alive, Our Rob Or Ros (Oroboros - the snake eating it's tail) was the episode where he becomes his own father. He is his own God. These people know this stuff and turn it in to programs.

The Tarot magicians belt is Oroboros. He points to the 3 and 7 when overlaid on the tree. The infinity symbol over head. Going around and around for eternity. If you know the show you would get that symbolism from what the show character says to his own self as a baby. The letter I at the top.

[Glass]

last one on dave J.
The 2 dollar bill. I can't grasp what the first 10 minutes of this one is supposed to explain but at approx 10 minutes he shows the $2 bill which he talked about elsewhere. I won't embed the video because embeds can't be set to a particular time in the video. Only links can.

It's worth taking a look:https://youtu.be/X5FokVNikY4?t=604

It takes a little while to make it out so give him a minute or two. I actually think he misses a few. There are demon images in demon images and I think there are even more wrapping around what he identifies.

[Glass]

I listened to the second hour of the interview Crrow did with 2 of his subscribers. Post #29 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?85294-Lunar-Wave-(Hologram-)-Events&p=828187&viewfull=1#post828187)

Very good interview. Discusses the numerology around 911. Again these guys have picked up on it. 9 (skip 10) 11 which brings you into a cycle or circle which apparently is never ending repetition much like ground hog day. 10 is the perfect number, the number of God. Lets skip that number and we never get there?

Talks about the Catholic church pretending to be a God religion when in fact all they do is follow pagan rites, worship pagan god and ancient diety. The Gregorian calendar repalced the natural 13 cycles of the moon with a 12 month cycle. Hence the need to fudge the calendar during the year - Easter is at a different time each year AND is based on the moon cycle. Disconnects people from the earth, it's cycles and the abundance it gives up.

The start of the year is actually March (named after Mars). I think it's the end of. That is when the cycle or program resets/restarts/ Vernal Equinox/ time of the luna wave. April Fools day actually came about because some people tried to stick to the real calendar and were ridiculed for it. You'd be a fool in April to think the year starts at then end of March.

The period starting from June/July is considered to be the decent into Hell. Everything has passed the birth and life stage - Sring/Summer. By September you are on your way into hell. Sept-Ember = Embers of hell. All the way until the celebration of Satan Dec-Ember.

The days of the week are dedicated to celestial bodies. Sun-day, Moon-day, Zues-day, I don't know what Wednes-day is, unsure of Thurs or Fri either Sat(urn)-day - again the home of Satan.

The Staints of the catholic church are presented as being some people but are in fact these ancient deities.

Satan clause - the St Nick is again an ancient deity. But we've done that one before.

The Alpha-Bet(a) language that we use is a harmonically disconnected language. Listening to other languages they are rythmic, tonal, harmonic, passionate. English is the hardest to learn because you have to abandon those things and talk in a flat way.

Crrow has also made reference in a couple interviews to the Hooks or Claws(claus) in mythology and culture and events. Pandora's box. If you open it, you get attacked by sand claws. Santa (satan) claws is another one. Friday the 13th - Freddy Kruger claws. Sandy Hook - claws. Hurrican Sandy. Interesting observation.

Fear - of everything and significantly the fear scarcity. Not enough food, water, air. Too much sun, heat, co2, people, disease.

Discussed that humans need to be told lies. Santa claus is a lie that parents tell their kids. Then at some point the kids learn it's a lie and then they do the same things to their kids, even though they know it's a lie. Deceit is ingrained from an early age. This was the realisation I had myself and why I don't participate in it.

[singular_me]

Glass, I appreciate you continuing this thread a lot, and thanks for all the insight. Talking of those things on here is very much challenging.

My life partner works on his book linking the periodic table of elements to music, frequencies, harmonics. This Knowledge is ABSOLUTELY powerful. And that is why science as a whole has gone down the road and scientists are unable foresee the negative consequences in their research. What is of course only known by the very few academics at the top.

Keep up, Glass. I am following Crow777 every now and then and thats why I cannot really comment on his work but according to what you write, I can tell that you are inside a real and enlightening rabbit hole

[Glass]

2 Suns.
interesting video. Seems Crrow has spent a bit of time trying to find the cause of what he is seeing here.

Basically when filming the sun through his telescope/SLR camera system he is seeing a second sun object to the left of the Sol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fl4qK9OwRfk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fl4qK9OwRfk

He has been trying to ensure it is not a lens flare issue, a reflection or some other flaw/anomaly with his optic systems. Has not been able to find the cuase and is now confident it is not a result of those things. He discusses if it is a reflection of Sol due to atmospheric or other conditions.

Appears to be a second light emitting object that is being outshone by Sol.

To me, they appear to be similar or same size however there are flares, sun spots seen on the Sol object that are not visible on the other object.

has anyone else come across similar things posted by others that they could share? Hatybow suggests there are multiple suns. A few people seem to be trying to digest his writings now.

[Glass]

Crrow777 answers questions from subscribers and gives his opinions on some topics. Not at the end yet but I think this is all of it. I don't think there is a subscribers only segment.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em1S_ksSM5w


In this clip I answer questions submitted to me by subs. The topics covered are as follows:

Chemtrails, NASA lies, moon illusion, flat earth, age of deception, the ruling class, royalty, the sun, death, fake celebrity death, death hoaxes, Satanists, the devil, song lyrics, politics, how to learn, belief as the enemy of knowing, dinosaurs, nuclear hoax, Chernobyl, Fukushima, orgon, aliens, our worlds shape, is space water, lunar wave, Charles Manson & OJ Simpson hoaxes, ancient books, history – true or false, procession of the equinox, astrology, financial system, satellite hoax, CERN, portals, the distance of stars sun & moon, Disney Land, eclipses, global warming hoax, Prince/Bowie fake deaths.

There are 2 parts.

[Glass]

This is the episode on Numerology and Germatria? Very interesting discussion. Worth a listen. Most of the good stuff is in the first hour although good stuff in the 2nd hour also. I find I always pick up a few things through these interviews. Enabling me to join some more dots. Interesting how it's coming together now.

The numerology of events is quite astounding. These mass shooter events particularly. Celebrity deaths and several plenty of other events that have occurred. This interviewee has been looking at the numerology of older historical events. Patterns repeat.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1iDMxF07MI

The interviewees channel is also worth a look. I have not checked out their blog but I think/hope that may be a faster way of absorbing the material they have produced.

They both have questions about the meaning of 911. How and when 911 became the emergency number, other correlations with the Twin Towers construction dates. Quite amazing. I would add from this blog installment by Rosette Delacroix - Jacobs ladder (http://rosettedelacroix.com/?p=12) that the ancient name for earth is Ki and the numerology is 9 = I and 11 = K. Suggesting events scheduled for 911 are part of a war for Earth.

Anyway take a listen. All of these should probably be under a different thread title. I figure a lot of people won't bother because of no interest in lunar wave.

One last thing, Crrow777 makes the suggestion that this system we are in is a broken system. It might not have been broken at some time in the past but it is now and it is in a loop going around and around. Some people know it is a system and that it is broken but do not know how to fix it, return it to it's proper path. There are people who know what it is and they simply work this system as it is. I have more on this which I think is very compelling. Still compiling.

[Glass]

I should probably post these elsewhere because they are not lunar wave related. General discussions about the world around us or what we think is the world around us


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqlbupnv1Pg
Topics covered in full show:
Monsters inc. encoding, 911, Muhammad Ali Hoax, Olympics fraud, Babylon, price of fame, deception through entertainment, subconscious programming, the death based system of deception, death, elite life spans possibly hundreds of years, dying at 74 years, death programming, retrograde medicine of the west, cannabis as medicine. Organic food, biblical life spans, Methuselah, Rothschild, driver’s license fraud, Interstellar movie, GMO, gene splicing seeds and food, Monsanto, Chemtrails, flicker rates, embedding intent into water, food packaging used to embed intention, Kosher food symbols, all food blessed by Rabbi, the awakening, apocalypse meaning, pagan meaning, information control, TV as the ultimate weapon, law of attraction, flat earth, distance of stars sun moon, Christianity, the Vatican, religious programming, worshiping idols, palm Sunday, the perverted calendar, than Vatican tracking and worshiping the sun, St. Andrew, St John, zodiac, tracking the sun, astrology, ISS fraud, astronomical distances lie, science as a religion, questioning gravity, encoding the sun in religion and movies, human vs. animal learning, language, corrupted Vatican, astrological ages, age of Aquarius – Taurus and Pisces, mentality creating reality, black cube, Saturn, time, Chronos, mental prison, false history, repeated history, predictive programming, programmed fear, celebrity genetic selection, royalties, rap music.

[Glass]

New episode of Crrow777radio interview: Hubble Telescope is a fraud. Has never been in space, could not go into space and could not stay there if it did.

Again, this one is very good. Some more pieces of puzzle. I've been preparing some info I want to post up. Not on the Luna subject but on another topic I posted here. I've revisited it and other stuff I have been reading has given me coincidental links to that subject. Adding some interesting detail and helping me better understand what I have been looking at. I hope to post on that subject soon.

Anyway, this guy is interesting. He has his own YT channel. Is a technically intelligent guy. this interview has no bad language. His YT material does have a fair bit of bad language. This is 1st hour. It has the best material. Crrow calls this episode 15 but he shuffled episodes and this came out as 13.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bwzD26t9eA

This guy worked out, very reasonably that the Hubble is a fraud. He likes to call people up and discuss the issues he discovers with them. So he doesn't discover something and rail on about it. He actually finds people in these agencies, Project leaders, agency heads etc and calls them up and quizzes them.

He discovered that the Hubble launch mission was never registered AND all space missions are registered by the UN. In support, the Hubble mission was a world record beating mission. The heaviests payload, the highest altitude. Those records are recorded as well, as are any missions that held the previous record or which take the record. No one has any record of the Hubble mission.

Also:
the Hubble telescope would barely fit the space shuttle bay.
The space shuttle does not go as high as the shuttle by about 150 miles. Shuttle around 150 miles, Hubble 300 miles.
Hubble has zero propulsion, retros or any momentum providing mechanism. It could not have been in orbit at 300 miles, dropped 150 miles to the shuttle for repairs and returned to 300 miles.
NASA math says all orbits degrade and all orbiting satellites fall from orbit over time. Hubble would have returned to earth years ago if it was there.
Sophia observatory is loaded into a 747 plane and flown at high altitude.
It is just slightly smaller than Hubble but is exact same design
Many images taken by Hubble were also taken on same day by Sophia. Sophia appears to be the source of the images attributed to Hubble
Hubble project head has been in charge for 25 years. Has never seen a live mission on hubble. Always delayed. Only think live is telemetry. After 25 years Project head cannot say 100% that Hubble is up there.
Hubble should be visible from ISS, but has never been sighted from there. It has solar panel wings and is seen from Earth by amateurs and NASA says so.
NASA says it reflects sun light at night which is why it's visible.
Guy claims they are using balloons, mainly launched from Antarctic
Satellites are tethered some hundreds of meters or some distance. Had some answers on why balloons can't be seen
ISS trajectory and altitude changes significantly and matches that of tracked balloons in highest reaches of the atmosphere
There was some data he had that indicated satellites are launched, come down and relaunched on a fairly consistent cycle and trajectory
He asked several HAM operators who track satellites to keep a watch for periods where the satellite should be detectable based on it being a satellite and they weren't
HAM operators confirmed cycles that match the balloon launch timing data

There's more that I can't recall. oh, Google has a Balloon Satellite program called googloon or something. https://www.google.com/loon

[Glass]

If you want to listen to Part 2 of Episode 13, the interviewee has posted it on his YT.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OqwCIhp1NQ

Not sure that's the done thing as Crrow777 usually puts the second hour behind a paywall.

[Glass]

I guess I need to come up with a new thread for these as no one is catching them. they are not dealing with lunar wave.

Another enlightening episode. This a second interview with the SageSigmaUnbound guy (https://sagesigmaunbound.com/). They had an earlier discussion I linked here. Both are worth listening to.

This new one is mainly a Q & A. Some great topics discussed. Mainly to do with finding the truth but also touching on the Pythagorean objects/elements, THE CUBE s Moon energy flows. Saturn, Kronos. Time being the prison of man - That one is interesting because the Bible says do not track the celestial bodies, do not track time. For many years I stopped wearing a watch and didn't bother too much with exact time.


Aleister Crowley, brexit, Theosophy, Blavatsky, JPL, Jack Parsons, Beginnings of NASA, Homunculus, moonchild, Pythagorean school of thought, Monad, the Duad, the Triad, works Plato, Aristotle, Greek philosophers, The cube, Space as water, Earth as closed system, Firmament, solstices/equinoxes, color by mass media, Color purple (Prince hoax), Mass shooting hoaxes, Free masons, Weather forecasting, Chemtrails, Olympics, TV & MOVIES, engineered society dependent upon fear, cryptids, Sasquatch, the Mothman, Video games, World population, Life spans of the ruling class, PREDICTING DALLAS HOAX

I think Crrow knows a fair bit more than he shares sometimes.

First hour of two. The content is evenly split. No one half has better discussion than the other.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhOYjqxyzgA

These are audio btw,

[Glass]

Episode 16.

A general chit chat. Lots of topics and an interesting discussion. Especially the parts on treating cancer. Cannabis and the Gerson method. I wonder how you make cannabis oil? I've heard of it a fair bit but I have no idea how these kinds of things are made. Seems simpler to go the Gerson method route, although I get the idea you need to avoid using cutting and trashing methods to extract the juice. I was really just wondering if cannabis oil was made the same way, as a kind of juice?

Here is the Topic list:
Medical Cannabis, Illegalization of cannabis, Race conflict, Propaganda, Cocaine fiends, Reefer Madness, Allopathic medicine, Retrograde – backwards medicine, Oil’s influence on Medicine, Traditional medicine, Prohibition, outlawing real treatments, preventing effective cancer cures, alcohol, Cure for cancer, Gerson method, plant juice treatments, flushing the liver, tinctures, hash, false teaching in schools about cannabis, is cow milk damaging, Cancer, Zodiac cancer, engineered cancer, spell craft disease, Bowies cancer death and symbol, black mass cancer, Himalayan salt, malnutrition, making proven cancer cures illegal, lack of diet prescription in medicine, we are what we eat, tainted food, aspartame, fluoride, Pineal gland, spiritual growth, death based system controlling medicine, anti Gerson propaganda from Hollywood, encoded wordplay, the power of intention, imagination, Richard C Hoagland, moon landing propaganda, fake Pluto mission, danger of video games, subliminal messaging in media, the Fascist symbols in congress, the Truman show, e pluribis unum, Greek, Latin, predictive movies, the fall of US auto, gas shortage, Rodney King hoax, rap is social engineering, witnessing against life, false death, false shooting ramp up, Paris hoax, baton rouge hoax, inability to think, damaged brain function, ego, human learning, human discernment, iodine, calcification of the pineal gland by fluoride, organic food, chemtrails, a hidden land mass, secretly adding stuff to food, GMO, Countries that stop GMO, The Internet informing the false events.

First hour:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMu09KZpsj0

[Glass]

yesterday I stumbled across a USB Telescope camera. Was looking at new outdoor security cameras. It was an odd coincidence because a) I have been listening to the lunar wave and rockets don't go into space guys when they do post stuff on topic which is infrequent and b) they use DSLR's attached to Telescopes to film.

Seems DSLRs are the go to tool for Video bloging on YT and attaching to telescopes either directly to the telescope to use it as a telephoto or piggy back it onto the telescope.

Now I discover you can buy a small-ish USB camera which does away with the DSLR body and also screws onto the telescope. Has direct interface to a PC etc.

I go looking for some reviews and demonstration videos. I find this one from 2 years ago. What did the guy film? ?You guessed it. I also notice Rethinking the Universe found this one just a month ago.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8GRQpEv1NE

Would be interesting to see if he filmed any thing else like this.
This is one of the cameras in question: https://astronomy-imaging-camera.com/products/usb-3-0/asi1600mc/
Not cheap but cheaper than a DSLR unit.

[Glass]

Here is a new Lunar Wave captured January 4 2017. You can see it start on the lower left rim of the moon. The wave travels from bottom left to top right. From about 7 o'clock to 1 o'clock. Look to the limb of the moon (very edge) for see the ripple disturbing the curve of the moon.

I needed to replay it several times to see the wave running across the surface but once I got my eye in, it is a very clear example. It fits the pattern of 2 waves in close succession.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsVm99ur5lg

There is something else about the moon - craters on the moon that has just come to light...by someone studying the craters. I'll post about it in the Cosmology thread. But this video shows the surface very clearly which might be useful when considering this idea about the craters. Moon impact craters may be hexagonal in shape (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?94214-Are-the-Dominoes-Falling-for-Standard-Cosmology&p=882718&viewfull=1#post882718)

[Glass]

more analysis and comparison of the recent 2017 lunar wave capture

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuM-FD4vEdM

[Glass]

Another recorded Lunar wave, in 2 parts.

P1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsAZwiTXTrk

P2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khaLE9KGELY

Some other interesting things: Closeups of planes flying overheard, Florida barge canal : water : curvature : horizon - Bedford level experiment confirmation, trial run.
Venus waning images.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5YxgT0VaUmzyJzPMDc4N2Q/videos

[singular_me]

Glass watch this ASAP!!!

Why is the moon bigger than earth when observed from earth than earth observed from the moon?? NASA trick for sure that could destroy moon landing overnight. Right???


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpAYAqgNsMs


earth should be wayyyyyyy bigger
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F-F5fZt8J-GRQ%2FUYBydMax13I%2FAAAAAAAADeY%2F19WlCfjnO_g%2Fs1 600%2Fearth-from-the-moon.jpg&f=1

[Glass]

Have not looked at the video yet But I did raise the issues highlighted by the picture of earth. Not sure if it was this thread, Flat Earth or Have we been to the moon? threads. I did some basic math. To my reckoning the volume of the Earth is 13 times greater than the Moons. So 13 Moons will Fit inside the earths sphere. On a 2D basis, such as looking at the Earth in that picture. The Earth would be 4 times the size of the moon. So 4 Moon "disks" would fit inside 1 Earth "disk". So in my mind, based on that, the Earth should fill a much larger portion of view than it appears to. It really should look larger.

Does that image show an earth 4 times larger than the moon appears from earth? I don't think so but I will admit it does look quite large. Certainly larger than your average full moon looks, although probably about the same size as a super moon looks.

Someone (I forget who) raised the question of perspective and at the time I disagreed with them. Now I think they have a point in that perspective is a big factor but I still think the sizes are not correct. I don't think the Earth is shown as moon size (1/4 earth size) but I also don't think it appears 4 times the size of the moon.

Edit: I just started the video and the first thing it shows is that earth from moon image. It's clear the picture you linked has been zoomed and cropped. SO everything I said above... I'm now going to back away from. It does look about the same size as the moon does from Earth.

Edit 2: Those are 2 different moon to earth images

I think the guy he gets to explain the Earth Moon distance has dropped off Youtube. He used to do quite a few videos and also live casts/round tables. Then he suddenly stopped. He did one where it seemed to prove hubble is not really an orbiting telescope but a telescope on an aircraft. There are a couple aircraft mounted telescopes out there. But basically people can shoot the same quality images as hubble but from the ground. However with some sluething he came up with some reasonably convincing suggestion that the hubble is not in space at all. Not long after that he seemed to stop posting. Planate Veritas - Hubble on a plane (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGFqRbbmNsc)

Edit 3: At minute ~7:00 it shows Earth from Moon with a Moon Lander in the frame. The earth is far too small for that to be real.

[crimethink]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpAYAqgNsMs

The product of someone who cannot understand relatively simple geometry.

The return to medieval "astrophysics" has occurred for a preventable reason:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N9nVLXMhPc

Idiots savant + webcam = most YouTube videos

[singular_me]

Edit 3: At minute ~7:00 it shows Earth from Moon with a Moon Lander in the frame. The earth is far too small for that to be real. To my reckoning the volume of the Earth is 13 times greater than the Moons
that is what I meant... case point: they NEVER went to the moon. This is the best argument ever, IMHO. Earth should be enormous in the picture

[singular_me]

You missed the point made in that video.

However, the moon is not what we think it really is and the Lunar Wave OP follows that possibility


The product of someone who cannot understand relatively simple geometry.

[Neuro]

You missed the point made in that video.

However, the moon is not what we think it really is and the Lunar Wave OP follows that possibility

No he didn't, any point made in that video is based on delusions. He doesn't even understand how the optics in his own expensive camera works. The fact that he is in possession of such a camera, tells us that society is rewarding abject stupidity. A person that stupid should starve to death, not being able to spread this bull over the internet. And that goes for any other minion who aids in the dissemination of this crap.

Stand outside on a moonlit night put your fist between your eyes and the moon with your arms stretched out. Now you can't see the moon, does this prove that your fist is bigger than the moon? With the reasoning this man is exhibiting re basic geometry, you may very well believe this is the case.

If so I suggest you accelerate the fist towards your eyes, it will not damage you the slightest, and if it hurts repeat until it doesn't.

You are only trolling, aren't you?

[singular_me]

hahaha... you dont agree that there could be a controversy, so what?

but from there just go ahead and accuse me of trolling... the NWO loves it!

I agree with Glass, earth is far too small in the pic



No he didn't, any point made in that video is based on delusions. He doesn't even understand how the optics in his own expensive camera works. The fact that he is in possession of such a camera, tells us that society is rewarding abject stupidity. A person that stupid should starve to death, not being able to spread this bull over the internet. And that goes for any other minion who aids in the dissemination of this crap.

Stand outside on a moonlit night put your fist between your eyes and the moon with your arms stretched out. Now you can't see the moon, does this prove that your fist is bigger than the moon? With the reasoning this man is exhibiting re basic geometry, you may very well believe this is the case.

If so I suggest you accelerate the fist towards your eyes, it will not damage you the slightest, and if it hurts repeat until it doesn't.

You are only trolling, aren't you?

[crimethink]

You are only trolling, aren't you?

I don't think so. She is a Lunatic. :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunatic#History

[crimethink]

the NWO loves it!

Yes, because if we stop believing the Moon is self-luminous green cheese, the New World Order is defeated. :rolleyes:

[singular_me]

Yes, because if we stop believing the Moon is self-luminous green cheese, the New World Order is defeated. :rolleyes:

never mentioned the self-luminous aspect, but it is in the title of the video and cannot remove it. I was addressing the size of earth vs size of moon... goes back to my first post to Glass.

The moon allegedly being an hologram is not new... dont know what to make of it but I appreciate non conventional input

[Neuro]

hahaha... you dont agree that there could be a controversy, so what?

but from there just go ahead and accuse me of trolling... the NWO loves it!

I agree with Glass, earth is far too small in the pic

And your fist is obviously bigger than the moon...

[Neuro]

never mentioned the self-luminous aspect, but it is in the title of the video and cannot remove it. I was addressing the size of earth vs size of moon... goes back to my first post to Glass

You really are a moron!

[Glass]

Nasa claims this footage is real and if so it clearly demonstrates a problem with the Earth Moon size relationship seen in other images. I've posted this one before as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMdhQsHbWTs

This is what you should see in terms of the size of earth in the sky when looking from the moon...based on the Math... which I posted in one of the other threads - have we been to the moon or FE. asking someone to double check it for me. Anyone? Please feel free to take a look at it. The Moon disk Earth Disk ratio should be about ~4 to 1 if I got it right.

From that video the Earth is clearly significantly larger in the Moons sky, to the point of dominating most of it. Compare that to the image you posted and it's non "zoomed in" source, and its' clear something is not right with the imagery. Some of the examples or all of them.

[singular_me]

You really are a moron!

yeah, caught projecting what I am NOT saying in this particular post, then I am a moron ;D

the NWO loves this form of censorship

[singular_me]

a guy on the video that you just embedded

Published on Aug 6, 2015
Another junk piece from NASA. This time, they supposedly caught the new noon crossing Earth's path. A close look reveals another failure. But, at least they didn't paint the earth in this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mmfM-fEiec


he has another one: The Moon - Is NOT What We've Been Told! , which seems to support the OP

still dont know what to think but it raises serious questions




Nasa claims this footage is real and if so it clearly demonstrates a problem with the Earth Moon size relationship seen in other images. I've posted this one before as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMdhQsHbWTs

This is what you should see in terms of the size of earth in the sky when looking from the moon...based on the Math... which I posted in one of the other threads - have we been to the moon or FE. asking someone to double check it for me. Anyone? Please feel free to take a look at it. The Moon disk Earth Disk ratio should be about ~4 to 1 if I got it right.

From that video the Earth is clearly significantly larger in the Moons sky, to the point of dominating most of it. Compare that to the image you posted and it's non "zoomed in" source, and its' clear something is not right with the imagery. Some of the examples or all of them.

[Joshua01]

I' have already rethought everything I thought I knew about US space exploration. It's been quite a wake up call, I can tell you that. I go back a long way and there's a lot to ponder
Nasa claims this footage is real and if so it clearly demonstrates a problem with the Earth Moon size relationship seen in other images. I've posted this one before as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMdhQsHbWTs

This is what you should see in terms of the size of earth in the sky when looking from the moon...based on the Math... which I posted in one of the other threads - have we been to the moon or FE. asking someone to double check it for me. Anyone? Please feel free to take a look at it. The Moon disk Earth Disk ratio should be about ~4 to 1 if I got it right.

From that video the Earth is clearly significantly larger in the Moons sky, to the point of dominating most of it. Compare that to the image you posted and it's non "zoomed in" source, and its' clear something is not right with the imagery. Some of the examples or all of them.

[singular_me]

It is truly sci-fi out there, has always been, and that is why human history and space records are corrupt

we can walk along the shore and watch the ocean with a soothing feeling, but it clearly is a false perception, look at the planet.

So when we look at the cosmos, we should keep this in the back of our minds.

Nothing is like it seems


I' have already rethought everything I thought I knew about US space exploration. It's been quite a wake up call, I can tell you that. I go back a long way and there's a lot to ponder

[Glass]

Just to address the question of orbital distance from Earth to Moon during the moons elliptical orbit and how this affects the apparent size of the moon viewed from Earth and conversely the size of the Earth viewed from the moon.

This image shows a comparison in size between the moons apogee and perigee (farthest vs closest).
http://en.es-static.us/upl/2015/09/supermoon-perigee-full-moon-apogee-2011-CB-Devgun-e1477769430768.jpg
Source: EarthSky.org (http://earthsky.org/astronomy-essentials/close-and-far-moons-in-2016)

Even taking into account magnification of the telescope and/or camera it's clear the variation is not substantial enough to be a possible answer to why there is such a discrepancy in the images we have seen. I think who ever created the earth from the moon image simply used the moons size in our sky as their model without taking into account actual difference in size of the bodies.

By actual size I should say "claimed size" because something might be very very small or far far away (sic),

[singular_me]

Just to address the question of orbital distance from Earth to Moon during the moons elliptical orbit and how this affects the apparent size of the moon viewed from Earth and conversely the size of the Earth viewed from the moon.

This image shows a comparison in size between the moons apogee and perigee (farthest vs closest).
Source: EarthSky.org (http://earthsky.org/astronomy-essentials/close-and-far-moons-in-2016)

Even taking into account magnification of the telescope and/or camera it's clear the variation is not substantial enough to be a possible answer to why there is such a discrepancy in the images we have seen. I think who ever created the earth from the moon image simply used the moons size in our sky as their model without taking into account actual difference in size of the bodies.

By actual size I should say "claimed size" because something might be very very small or far far away (sic),

Sure, fair enough... but I am not even taking any lens into consideration but the naked eye. Anybody standing on the moon would see a gigantic earth. And this proves that the moon landing pix are utterly fake.
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thunderboltkids.co.za%2FGrade6 %2F04-earth-and-beyond%2Fimages%2Fgd-0037.jpg&f=1

https://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/lunar/images/as11_44_6642.jpg

[Neuro]

Nasa claims this footage is real and if so it clearly demonstrates a problem with the Earth Moon size relationship seen in other images. I've posted this one before as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMdhQsHbWTs

This is what you should see in terms of the size of earth in the sky when looking from the moon...based on the Math... which I posted in one of the other threads - have we been to the moon or FE. asking someone to double check it for me. Anyone? Please feel free to take a look at it. The Moon disk Earth Disk ratio should be about ~4 to 1 if I got it right.

From that video the Earth is clearly significantly larger in the Moons sky, to the point of dominating most of it. Compare that to the image you posted and it's non "zoomed in" source, and its' clear something is not right with the imagery. Some of the examples or all of them.

It isn't real photos of Moon transiting earth, every single image of earth is the same still photo which is a 3D composite. Look at the cloud systems, they don't change at all, they are only rotating the 3D composite image of earth.

But, just because these images are faked, doesn't mean that the earth is flat.

However the proportions of the moon transiting the earth at a million miles of distance or so, is correct though. The moons diameter is about 1/4 of earths. Objects appear closer to each other when they actually are when viewed from long distances with a magnifying camera lens.

Since earths diameter is about 4x that of the moon, your notion that earth would cover a huge part of the sky from the moon is easily debunked. Take a photo of Goldie's fist as she shakes it towards the sky, at a mile distance, with the fist right between the strong magnifying camera and the moon. Now the fist would appear small vs the moon disc, and very near to the moon. Would you assume from this photo, that if you, against better judgement for sure, walks up the mile to where Goldie's fist are, would see a Moon that is covering a large part of the sky, which the photo taken a mile away would imply?

Simply the diameter of the earth in the sky from the moon would appear approximately 4 times bigger than the moon from the earth. If we ever could go there and observe it which I very much doubt we did.

Sheesh this is VERY basic stuff in understanding spatial proportions.

[singular_me]

:).... until then I will continue to take it with a grain of salt


Simply the diameter of the earth in the sky from the moon would appear approximately 4 times bigger than the moon from the earth. If we ever could go there and observe it which I very much doubt we did.

[crimethink]

a grain of salt

Which likely has more common sense than you.

[Neuro]

:).... until then I will continue to take it with a grain of salt

You won't, the phrase in itself suggests you base your judgement on reasoning. The size and distance to the moon was well known long prior to any space programs, accurately calculated using not particularly complicated trigonometrical calculations. I assume you are not sure about trigonometry when you say you are going to take "it" with a "grain of salt". Essentially you are rejecting Pythagoras most important contribution to humanity.

Just because the photo's are doctored doesn't necessarily make the proportions faulty.

[Glass]

Crrow777 show back to it's roots and talking about what equipment you need to film the moon. Some suggestions on where to start and where you might want to go, upgrade wise.

First hour:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsxGMx7cr4A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsxGMx7cr4A

Talks about a fairly cheap very high zoom camera being sold out there for around $500 - $600. Taking a look here, I've seen it at quite good prices. About the same in our dollars as in USD which is unusual. It is a non detachable lens which might be limiting if you want to connect it to a telescope but it does have a very high zoom which you would need a very big telephoto or a telescope to achieve anyway. Telescope brands, sizes, lens connectors, tracking etc.

Nikon Coolpix p900. Even if you're not interested in the moon... you might be interested in the camera. It does have very impressive zoom.

He has another new show. Saturnian Vatican, Jesuits and Roots of Western Religion
Not listened yet, 1st hour here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c02iVaQCiLY

Edit: Listening to 2nd hour of Filming the moon program. Talks about observation stories of Jupiter being occulted by the moon and that Jupiter goes black but can still be seen while it transits "behind" the moon. I've heard the story before but never looked for sources of the stories.

Also talks about Moon Eclipses of the Sun and being unable to see the moon until it starts to cross the lim (limb ? not sure of the words spelling) of the Sun. I would call it the rim or edge of the Sun. Questions why, if the Moon is in the same day lit sky as the Sun, why it can't be seen, with the sun light apparently shinning on it as it heads towards earth. Logically it should appear as a shadow in the sky even on it's approach but cannot be seen until the occultation occurs. I don't know anything about this but heard him say this before. Would be interesting to verify during a moon eclipse of the sun.

[Glass]

It isn't real photos of Moon transiting earth, every single image of earth is the same still photo which is a 3D composite. Look at the cloud systems, they don't change at all, they are only rotating the 3D composite image of earth.

But, just because these images are faked, doesn't mean that the earth is flat.

However the proportions of the moon transiting the earth at a million miles of distance or so, is correct though. The moons diameter is about 1/4 of earths. Objects appear closer to each other when they actually are when viewed from long distances with a magnifying camera lens.

Since earths diameter is about 4x that of the moon, your notion that earth would cover a huge part of the sky from the moon is easily debunked. Take a photo of Goldie's fist as she shakes it towards the sky, at a mile distance, with the fist right between the strong magnifying camera and the moon. Now the fist would appear small vs the moon disc, and very near to the moon. Would you assume from this photo, that if you, against better judgement for sure, walks up the mile to where Goldie's fist are, would see a Moon that is covering a large part of the sky, which the photo taken a mile away would imply?

Simply the diameter of the earth in the sky from the moon would appear approximately 4 times bigger than the moon from the earth. If we ever could go there and observe it which I very much doubt we did.

Sheesh this is VERY basic stuff in understanding spatial proportions.

I'm fairly certain I didn't say anything there about the earth being flat?

And yes it's a composite as nearly all of them are... which is part of the point..... which you continually skirt around and try and insert other things that you argue against rather than admitting you agree. NASA are just making shit up and people people have no critical thought capacity... which is the whole point of the discussion. AND the atmospheric magnification effect won't account for the earth disk appearing to be the same size as the moon disk.... when its a factor of 4 times larger, not 4 percent, not 40 percent BUT 4 times +.

If you were standing on the moon that is in that NASA transiting video and looking at the earth where is is, it will fill the sky as it appears to in that video. It should dominate the moon sky on the side facing the earth. That is how it should look in other images apparently taken from the moon and they simply don't. So again NASA are just making shit up. Some of it or all of it. I'd suggest all of it and just sometimes they produce something that has plausible perspective. I guess at least we can agree on that if not the specifics of "the shit".

And to be 100% clear I said Disk meant what we see as a 2D view in the sky not a 3D volume (spherical) in which case the earth is ~13 times larger in volume (13 if IIRC).

edit: maybe I should correct this and call it Disc instead of Disk.

[singular_me]

Which likely has more common sense than you.

yeah, according to NASA pix, earth appears to have the same size than the moon's from the same distance between the two

that's common sense ;D


Good job Glass

[Glass]

He has another new show. Saturnian Vatican, Jesuits and Roots of Western Religion
Not listened yet, 1st hour here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c02iVaQCiLY

I've listened to the first hour of this. They discuss exactly the things I raised in Cheka's thread on Baal tribute here (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?95122-skype-build-tribute-to-baal-in-nyc&p=890194&viewfull=1#post890194).

Also deals with Jesuits and their oath to destroy all Protestants. Catholic church is focused on ancient babylonian deities in practice while mouthing worship of God and JC.