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cheka.
29th September 2015, 08:20 PM
http://www.junksilverbook.com/?m=201509

Over the last couple of months the premiums on Junk Silver have exploded.

Using the Wayback Machine website I went back in time to see what prices were historically on $100 bags of 90% Junk Silver from Apmex:

Prices for $100 Bag of 90% Junk Silver from Apmex:

There are some interesting facts here:

It is more expensive now with spot at $15.24 than in August 2014 when spot was at $20.49.

The current markup price is a staggering 42.59% over spot.

Apmex’s purchase price (that is what they will pay people to buy Junk Silver), previously was right at or very close to spot. Currently the advertised purchase price is 15.75% over spot.

However, their current sale price ($1,553.70) is marked up 23.19% over their purchase price ($1,261.26).

Compare to August 2014 when the sale price ($1,535.82) was only marked up 4.83% over their purchase price ($1,465.03)

What is interesting is that even with these high premiums many businesses are still sold out of Junk Silver frequently. This indicates that either people are still purchasing in high volume and/or businesses are having a hard time purchasing Junk Silver to resale. But based on the very large difference between their advertised purchase price and sale price it is clear that they are making a healthy profit.

The markup on other premium silver products like American Silver Eagles is also very high currently, especially when purchasing small quantities.

It is hard to say if the price markups on Junk Silver will ever return to how low it used to be. It used to be fairly easy to purchase Junk Silver at or even a little below spot.

One advantage of purchasing Junk Silver historically when the price markups were low was the fact that it is a scarce product, and there was the possibility that a larger premium price would develop. The amount of Junk Silver coins in existence is what it is , and since no more are being minted, the amount of coins in existence will never increase. Compare this to things like American Silver Eagles which have millions of new coins minted every year.

It seems like the best option right now, to avoid paying extreme markups, is to buy generic rounds and bars, and hope that once the price of silver stabilizes that markups on Junk silver and ASE’s will come back down to more reasonable levels.

madfranks
29th September 2015, 09:42 PM
Even generic silver is $3-5 over spot. Hard to find anything less than a 25% premium.

Sparky
29th September 2015, 10:18 PM
Our time will come.

Shami-Amourae
29th September 2015, 10:42 PM
I'm so glad that almost all of my Silver is Junk.

I thought it was the smartest buy since it was cheap, and a limited supply.

cheka.
29th September 2015, 10:52 PM
I'm so glad that almost all of my Silver is Junk.

coin, not commodity eh?

shopping for friend right now. best i can do is 13-14x face with rebates, etc. it's ugly out there

on feebay franklins have really popped.....washington quarters still cheapest.....then rosie dimes and kennedy halves

i'm partial to the mercs

hoarder
30th September 2015, 07:44 AM
I'm so glad that almost all of my Silver is Junk.

I thought it was the smartest buy since it was cheap, and a limited supply.Back in 2002-2003 I started buying 100 ounce bars, thinking it was the best way to hoard silver. I was paying about a 40 cent premium. Then I figured out I could buy 90% at spot or a nickel below and that's all I bought thereafter. Even back then, guys on GIM1 were saying to buy eagles and semi-numismatic and I laughed at them.
I never expected to sell at a premium above spot, I was investing in silver, not premiums. This is just icing on the cake. Even at today's buy prices it's still almost 3 times what I paid for it.

palani
30th September 2015, 08:08 AM
What is really going to blow your mind is that the same two silver dimes that would buy a gallon of gas in the '60s will still purchase the same gallon of gas in 2015. In fact with gas prices dropping the buy price is closer to $.15 per gallon than $.20.

Hitch
30th September 2015, 06:40 PM
on feebay franklins have really popped.....washington quarters still cheapest.....then rosie dimes and kennedy halves

i'm partial to the mercs

I was just browsing ebay, and the prices seem extremely high for junk silver. Some folks are asking up to 50% over melt value. You used to be able to pick up junk silver for at spot, or even less than spot. Not anymore.

Half Sense
1st October 2015, 07:25 AM
They aren't making any more of it.

Silver Rocket Bitches!
1st October 2015, 02:10 PM
They aren't making any more of it.

Not sure how far that logic goes. They haven't been making anymore since the 60s.

cheka.
1st October 2015, 07:48 PM
Not sure how far that logic goes. They haven't been making anymore since the 60s.

except that US mint coins silver every year (since 1982) that adhere to the lawful standard