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midnight rambler
1st October 2015, 11:37 AM
http://q13fox.com/2015/10/01/reports-shooter-at-oregon-community-college-injures-at-least-15/

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-nn-oregon-community-college-shooting-20151001-story.html (http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-nn-oregon-community-college-shooting-20151001-story.html)

Dogman
1st October 2015, 11:41 AM
Looks like it is up the road from Don Ponce !

80 or so miles as the buzzard flies !

cheka.
1st October 2015, 11:41 AM
grabbing early reports

just in case...

live updates: http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2015/10/active_shooting_reported_at_um.html

11:31: Nine agents with the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosive – seven from Portland, two from Eugene – sped to the scene and were en route when a supervisor was reached at 11:29 a.m.

"We're rolling to help," said Colene Domenech, a resident agent in charge of the Portland office. The agents will do "whatever they ask us to do."

A shooter has been reported at Umpqua Community College, according to the Douglas County Fire District's Twitter account. It's unconfirmed how many wounded or if the shooting is still ongoing at the Roseburg campus.

Sgt. Dwes Hutson, a Douglas County Sheriff's Office spokesman, says officers responded around 10:40 a.m. to reports of a shooting at the College. Huston could not confirm if anyone was injured.

According to the News Review newspaper in Roseburg, police and emergency crews are at Umpqua Community College after a reported gunman shot upwards of 20 people on campus.

Scanner reports indicated the suspect is down. Multiple ambulances are on scene. Early reports indicate at least 15 people are dead.

Police are clearing the science building at this time.

midnight rambler
1st October 2015, 11:42 AM
This should help advance the gun control agenda. I sit here with bated breath waiting to hear how the shooter passed a NICS background check.

cheka.
1st October 2015, 11:46 AM
http://wtkr.com/2015/10/01/active-shooter-reported-at-oregon-college-campus/

Roseburg, Oregon – Preliminary information indicates 10 people were killed and more than 20 others injured in a shooting at Oregon’s Umpqua Community College on Thursday, said Oregon State Police spokesman Bill Fugate.

The reports suggest that the shooter has been detained, he said.

cheka.
1st October 2015, 11:48 AM
http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/27419610-story

The newspaper is reporting that police have a suspect, but some reports suggests that there may be others involved

Ponce
1st October 2015, 12:39 PM
From my home to the VA is 101 miles....... as Ponce drives....but........ maybe you are right.......80 miles as the buzzard flies/

V

Cebu_4_2
1st October 2015, 12:39 PM
I call FF.

Just because I can.

Dogman
1st October 2015, 12:43 PM
From my home to the VA is 101 miles....... as Ponce drives....but........ maybe you are right.......80 miles as the buzzard flies/

V Seems like a big va medical center nearby.

Thought that one was the one you go to..

Spectrism
1st October 2015, 01:01 PM
It is the evil guns. Will they even blame the real cause?

Some guesses: islamic savages, mentally ill, negro against white privilege

mick silver
1st October 2015, 01:15 PM
maybe the slow burn is getting faster we need to disarm everyone for the UN small arm deal
spec what was once right is wrong now didn't you get the report

mick silver
1st October 2015, 01:37 PM
Thirteen people were killed and more than a dozen others wounded in a shooting at Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Ore., on Thursday, officials there said. Follow Yahoo News' liveblog below for the all the latest updates

mick silver
1st October 2015, 01:39 PM
tons of comment on yahoo coming in , here one ... you liberal jerk offs are already making this a political issue--the dead bodies are not even at the morgue yet and you invoke politics. Who did the shooting? black? white? Muslim? what are the facts, and for you liberals that are keeping score--there was more of this under the Clinton and Obama years by a long shot--maybe people are going crazy living in the PC socialism society...there was not even close to this type of violence under George Bush for those that want to play political games--there are a lot of ticked off people with the way our country is headed.... and these events are not usually from people that are law abiding gun owners either---

midnight rambler
1st October 2015, 01:56 PM
Current count: 13 dead, 20 wounded; shooter was 20 y.o. who (conveniently) died in a shootout with responding cops. On campus 'security guard' was unarmed.

Live video -

http://www.kgw.com/

mick silver
1st October 2015, 03:26 PM
the leader is on right now after gun rights . never waste a killing to go after your and my right

midnight rambler
1st October 2015, 03:51 PM
0bombya was tripping all over himself in his mad rush to get in front of the cameras to do his dance in the blood of the victims before their bodies were cold just in time for the evening network nooz on Talmudvision.

gunDriller
1st October 2015, 03:56 PM
I was at the shooting range getting some results that I actually liked, at 100 yards. From 11 to 1.

Looks like I was shooting while the guy in Roseburg was shooting.


I wonder what weapon & caliber the guy in Roseburg used.

midnight rambler
1st October 2015, 04:03 PM
Supposedly the shooter posted a sort of advance warning on 4chan last night.

This report states he had four guns and there was a report of him having a 'long arm'. From one of the photos it appears to be a .45 ACP case.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3256633/Shooter-Oregon-community-college-kills-15-people-campus.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

mick silver
1st October 2015, 04:06 PM
was he black white are yellow

Shami-Amourae
1st October 2015, 04:09 PM
http://dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/4Chan-Thread-Oregon-Community-College-Shooting.png

mick silver
1st October 2015, 04:11 PM
so he was a frog

brosil
1st October 2015, 04:12 PM
So let me get this straight, a nut posted yesterday that he was going to shoot up some place and a bunch of fellow nuts made suggestions about how to best kill as many as possible? Are we dealing with a cult here? Are the other nuts prosecutable for aiding and abetting and conspiracy?

Shami-Amourae
1st October 2015, 04:15 PM
Here's a video screencap of the thread.
http://content.jwplatform.com/previews/0Goo1PHp-hLb0vkFd


I post on /pol/, but not /r9k/. That's for normies.

Shami-Amourae
1st October 2015, 04:16 PM
so he was a frog


Pepe.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypFs4M7NWqY

Shami-Amourae
1st October 2015, 04:23 PM
So let me get this straight, a nut posted yesterday that he was going to shoot up some place and a bunch of fellow nuts made suggestions about how to best kill as many as possible? Are we dealing with a cult here? Are the other nuts prosecutable for aiding and abetting and conspiracy?

On 4chan and 8chan there's a lot of government agents who encourage violence. People there are very awake to stuff like people on this forum, but come from a younger demographic.

It's been the biggest threat to Jewish power and it's causing many young White men to become racially awake.

mick silver
1st October 2015, 04:41 PM
Now is the timeto do something about gun violence.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/shootings/mobile_hero.jpg https://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/preventing-gun-violence

Shami-Amourae
1st October 2015, 04:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNV2HBXF8S0

midnight rambler
1st October 2015, 04:49 PM
Please post any info on what the long gun used was, or whatever other guns used were if and when that info surfaces.

mick silver
1st October 2015, 04:52 PM
anyone know anything about the shooter yet was he white black brownhttp://armingallsides.on-the-record.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/v0_full.jpg

Shami-Amourae
1st October 2015, 05:02 PM
Please post any info on what the long gun used was, or whatever other guns used were if and when that info surfaces.

The Ruger Mini-14 still has the highest score.

http://s13.postimg.org/xarf6saav/1443638623053.jpg

midnight rambler
1st October 2015, 05:08 PM
The table you posted shows Lanza using pistols, the media has always given the impression that he used an AR.

Dick_Stabber
1st October 2015, 05:08 PM
https://archive.moe/r9k/thread/22785073/ Easy to read 4chan post

Ponce
1st October 2015, 05:12 PM
If it happen in college it was then a white man.....safest place to be away from blacks.

V

Dick_Stabber
1st October 2015, 05:14 PM
If it happen in college it was then a white man.....safest place to be away from blacks.

V

Or library

mick silver
1st October 2015, 05:16 PM
thanks dick ..................... that some sick shit ... now I have to wonder how many fbi guys are going to be looking for that group on 4

Dick_Stabber
1st October 2015, 05:28 PM
http://nypost.com/2015/10/01/oregon-gunman-singled-out-christians-during-rampage/

Oh my!

mick silver
1st October 2015, 05:33 PM
so he a rag head Oregon gunman singled out Christians during rampage (http://nypost.com/2015/10/01/oregon-gunman-singled-out-christians-during-rampage/)By

Glass
1st October 2015, 06:59 PM
so he a rag head Oregon gunman singled out Christians during rampage (http://nypost.com/2015/10/01/oregon-gunman-singled-out-christians-during-rampage/)

By

sure he did.

cheka.
1st October 2015, 07:03 PM
If it happen in college it was then a white man.....safest place to be away from blacks.

V

not today. the f-s-army has arrived at the U....via grants and other monies nyc/dc steals from us. fsa graduation rate low, violent crime rate high

makes you want to spend 25k/yr to send johnnie/jenny to kollege

JohnQPublic
1st October 2015, 08:32 PM
From the UK Daily Mail article:

Oldsalty (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/registration/1439412721124522/Oldsalty/profile.html), Omaha, United States, about a minute ago
what i find odd is that they keep saying his dating profile says he is a conservative republican several times. what is more odd is if you use googles wayback machine archive it shows his dating profile was made today and saved 6 times as it was being created. check it yourself, the dating profile was made after the shooting.


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JohnQPublic
1st October 2015, 08:34 PM
http://nypost.com/2015/10/01/oregon-gunman-singled-out-christians-during-rampage/

Oh my!

"Sometime later, students’ cell phones were confiscated and they were escorted out of their buildings with their hands up as authorities patted them down and lined them up to be evacuated on buses, according to NRToday."

Why?

JohnQPublic
1st October 2015, 08:35 PM
so he a rag head Oregon gunman singled out Christians during rampage (http://nypost.com/2015/10/01/oregon-gunman-singled-out-christians-during-rampage/)

By

Or, an atheist.

Shami-Amourae
1st October 2015, 08:36 PM
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OMG HE'S WHITE!!!

http://s11.postimg.org/4makitsoz/1443756006253.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

Shami-Amourae
1st October 2015, 08:36 PM
Or, an atheist.

He's a confirmed Satanist.

Shami-Amourae
1st October 2015, 08:45 PM
People are 4chan managed to trick CNN into thinking the shooter was Eggman, LOL.

http://s22.postimg.org/tv30w26xt/1443733904207_2.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

http://s22.postimg.org/7lp3pibhd/1443733904208_3.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

http://s22.postimg.org/y5hornc0x/1443747622113.png (http://postimage.org/)



>CNN still as of 8:30pm are running this anti-woman beta uprising 4chan schtik BASED ON A FUCKING 4chan POST AND NOTHING ELSE

>its been confirmed that eggman has reached out to media and confirmed he had nothing to do with it. (edit , as of now we have a second media confirmation)

>CNN is the most batshit insane fucking "news" agency in history.

>eggman will get millions out of this.

>he will ACTUALLY via divine intervention , be swimming in 30 feet of pussy within the next few years.

https://twitter.com/Tom_Winter/status/649717090639867904

^first confrimation

https://twitter.com/DavidClinchNews/status/649740822540386309

^second confirmation where were you when this is going to be the biggest journalistic fuckup EVER



Right now, there is a 24 year old associate producer at CNN who is watching her future spiral the down the toilet. She convinced Wolf Blitzer that her intimate knowledge of the deep web and investigative journalism skills had allowed her to deduce the real name of the shooter even before the FBI. An hour ago she was practicing her acceptance speech when they gave her the Emmy, now she's crying in the ladies room and wondering if a "cry for help" suicide attempt will be enough to salvage her career so she'll be able to pay off the $60,000 student loan she took out to pay for her MassCom degree with a Womyn's Studies minor.

Shami-Amourae
1st October 2015, 08:55 PM
http://s12.postimg.org/onhm6znpp/1443753945893.png

midnight rambler
1st October 2015, 09:10 PM
If 0bombya had a son he would look just like Chris Harper Mercer.

Reports are that he had an AR-15. I'm betting dollars to donuts he got it from a FFL. We'll see 'cause CERTAINLY if he didn't WE WILL HEAR ABOUT IT.

Cebu_4_2
1st October 2015, 09:15 PM
Stricter gun laws! What a great idea...

http://news.yahoo.com/oregon-shooting-prompts-calls-for-stricter-gun-laws-210550951.html (http://news.yahoo.com/oregon-shooting-prompts-calls-for-stricter-gun-laws-210550951.html)

Shami-Amourae
1st October 2015, 09:25 PM
Stricter gun laws! What a great idea...

http://news.yahoo.com/oregon-shooting-prompts-calls-for-stricter-gun-laws-210550951.html (http://news.yahoo.com/oregon-shooting-prompts-calls-for-stricter-gun-laws-210550951.html)


Thankfully the Burgers will forget this in 3 days.

cheka.
1st October 2015, 10:15 PM
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-oregon-shooting-live-updates-htmlstory.html

He added the gunman was armed with three handguns and an assault rifle. The official did not know whether all the guns were fired, or where or how they were obtained.

Officials said they did not believe Mercer was connected to the school as a student or staff member at this time.

The law enforcement official said Mercer's motive was "not immediately clear."

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Sheriff helping lead Oregon shooting investigation previously fought against gun control

While Thursday's mass shooting at a southwestern Oregon college has sparked a wide-ranging call for stiffer gun safety laws, including an impassioned plea from President Obama, one of the lead investigators into the killings vowed to fight the Obama administration on gun control years ago.

Douglas County Sheriff John Hanlin, whose agency was one of the first to respond to the attack at Umpqua Community College on Thursday, was one of nearly 500 sheriffs who took an oath to protect 2nd Amendment rights in the wake of the Newtown, Conn., school massacre in 2012, according to the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Assn., which spearheaded the effort.

In a letter Hanlin wrote to Vice President Joe Biden in 2013, the sheriff argued that gun control "is NOT the answer to preventing heinous crimes like school shootings," according to a copy of the letter published by Mother Jones on Thursday.

Each sheriff who signed the organization's pledge said he would refuse to enforce any additional gun control measures passed after the shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School, which left 20 children and six adults dead.

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Chris Harper Mercer and his mother were familiar faces in the tight-knit Torrance apartment complex where they lived for several years before moving to Oregon a year or two ago, a neighbor said.

Former neighbors described them as quiet people who kept to themselves and rarely socialized with each other. Mercer was often seen riding a red beach cruiser bike and wearing military-style, green pants with black boots.

Several said they sometimes noticed the mother and son carrying black cases that appeared to hold firearms.

David Westly, 45, said some neighbors asked him about the weapons at a community BBQ. Westly said Mercer didn't respond to that question but said he enjoyed going target shooting.

Westly and others on Arlington Avenue expressed shock that Mercer, 26, has been identified by law enforcement sources as the gunman who went on the rampage.

"It's hard to believe," he said.

"I wouldn't have suspected for him to be a troubled person," said neighbor Derrick McClendon, 42. "I'm surprised and shocked. I really am."

In Tarzana, where his father, Ian Harper, lives with his wife and stepdaughter, neighbors said they only saw him visit a few times. Mercer's father came home around 9:15 Thursday night and quickly stepped inside without saying a word. Three police officers stood across the street,

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Ana Boylan, 18, was in her classroom at UCC Thursday when the gunman entered and shot her professor, she recounted to family members Thursday afternoon.

Boylan, who had started attending UCC this week, was shot in the back, her grandmother, Janet Willis, told the Los Angeles Times. A girl standing next to her was shot, too, Willis said.

"They just laid on the ground and pretended they were dead," Willis recalls her granddaughter telling her and other family members. Boylan tearfully recounted her ordeal from a hospital bed Thursday, after she'd been airlifted to a Eugene hospital. As Ana lay there, she told her grandmother, she heard the gunman ask others in the classroom to rise and state their religion. "If they said they were Christians, they were shot again," Willis said.

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Campus' no-guns policy applies to security guards too

The attack on Umpqua Community College was both a "tragedy and an anomaly," college President Rita Calvin said.

"I feel awful. To witness the families that were waiting for the students in the last bus and to see all of the hugs and weeping and trauma that has gone on," Calvin told reporters. "More people were hurt than just the ones that were shot."

Calvin said that the school was not aware of any threatening messages the shooter may have left on social media in recent days, and that no threats had been made against the campus recently.

The campus employs at least one security officer, and several faculty members are retired law enforcement personnel, according to the college.

But none of them are allowed to be armed.

"We have a no-guns-on-campus policy," Calvin said.

================================================== ======

witness - 40 shots

Cassandra Welding's writing class was nearly over when she heard a noise that seemed to be coming from next door.

A classmate opened the door to look. She was shot.

"We were screaming, 'Close the door! Close the door!'" said Welding, 20.

Another classmate dragged the woman into the room and locked the door. Someone else turned off the lights.

Classmates performed CPR on the woman, who appeared to be shot in the torso.

The sounds kept coming.

Students crawled along the floor to the back right corner of the classroom, getting as far away from the door as possible.

"I was so terrified for my life and I was shaking," she said.

Blood covered the walls near the student who'd been shot. The wounded woman's broken glasses lay on the floor.

Someone called 911. Welding called her mother.

"Hey, Mom, there's a shooting at school," she whispered, afraid the shooter could come in at any minute. "I just heard other people in tears, crying, calling their loved ones and telling them, 'I love you.'"

"It was such a heart-wrenching thing."

=========================================



In the first frantic series of police recordings about the shooting at Umpqua Community College, officers said the suspect was possibly armed with a "long gun" when he opened fire into a crowded section of Snyder Hall.

On the recordings, a dispatcher can be heard saying the gunman was "outside one of the doors shooting through the doors" of Snyder Hall.

There were at least 35 people inside the building at the time, police said on the recordings.

Several minutes into the recording, an officer on scene can be heard describing an exchange of gunfire with the assailant before shouting, "The suspect is down!"

After the gunfire ends, another officer can be heard calling for immediate medical aid.

"They need to dispatch as many ambulances as possible to this incident," the officer says. "We have upwards of 20 victims."

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Shami-Amourae
1st October 2015, 11:40 PM
Mark Dice commentary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9cZsI-N33U

ImaCannin
2nd October 2015, 07:27 AM
Hmmm another three name shooter...... Chris Harper-Mercer ........

Cebu_4_2
2nd October 2015, 07:59 AM
Comments are fun to read...

[QUOTE]



Questionman2
As usual, anyone who hates Obama truly ARE racist bigoted scumbags!


If you banned hand guns in the US–including their sale, ownership and manufacture–criminals don’t have an easy source for guns. You also then ban ammunition and its manufacture.


If we were bombed by another country and Obama talked about reacting to it, would you call that politicizing a tragedy? No, you wouldn’t because it makes no sense, just like your hate-filled rant.


He’s tired of watching innocent Americans die because some idiot with a gun had a grudge against society in general.
Conservatives, on the other hand, see nothing wrong with politicizing another tragedy by accusing Obama of politicizing tragedies.


obama is a good person. he has done many great things. besides legalizing gay marriage and providing millions with healthcre, he also helped veterans maintain a great life after combat and also has lifted the economy massivly. he has not done any of those things that you have mentioned and if i was allowed to i would vote for him for a third session as president.


Muslims don’t eat pork, drink beer and support same sex marraige. he isn’t a muslim.


He doesn’t hate America


He isn’t a Marxist


He isn’t a Communist


He isn’t a homo


He isn’t a traitor


The UK are appalled by your gun laws in the US. SHOCKED, that any person can buy a gun and cause multiple deaths. Obama is talking for the rest of the civilized nations, not just his point of view. But of course the non-civilized parts of from the racists/bigots of the right that STILL hate having a black man as President!






[QUOTE]

midnight rambler
2nd October 2015, 09:28 AM
Some noteworthy things about this incident:

1) The Sheriff in who's jurisdiction this happened is a very vocal pro-gun voice both locally and nationally, so incredibly this happened in his county - what are the odds?;

2) This incident knocked the Russians kicking ass on CIA backed 'rebels' in Syria along with Putin making 0bummer his bitch out of the day's news cycle;

ETA:

3) Although I've seen no mention so far about where the shooter acquired his four guns, there's been NOTHING to indicate that he would have not passed a NICS or State of Oregon background check, i.e. no drug use, no criminal background, no involuntary commitment, etc.

slvrbugjim
2nd October 2015, 09:46 AM
Crisis actors reused. Mystery witness at Oregon College and Sandy Hook



https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=3&v=PkOxuEAk9FE



https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=56&v=puQm1JWPCWw

Shami-Amourae
2nd October 2015, 11:26 AM
Looks like he may have been a Muslim after all...

http://s10.postimg.org/o2iikhb0o/1443810187938.jpg

midnight rambler
2nd October 2015, 12:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=56&v=puQm1JWPCWw

Criticizing Sheriff Hanlin is just way out of bounds, Sheriff Hanlin is a very high profile pro-gun advocate.

Shami-Amourae
2nd October 2015, 12:06 PM
The whole "EVERY SHOOTING IS A FALSE FLAG" narrative is dangerous and makes the Truther community look retarded.


This shooting actually only works in the government's favor if people don't know the race, don't know he targeted Christians, and don't know he was possibly a Muslim.

Down1
2nd October 2015, 01:53 PM
He might be a "Brit" according to Breitbart.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/02/oregon-shooter-chris-harper-mercer-was-british-born-supported-irish-republicanism/

I wonder if he set up that MySpace account for White Cucks to consume and has another account on FB under a different name with anti-White stuff.

I still am not seeing any confirmation of his race.
Very odd.

cheka.
2nd October 2015, 02:05 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/10/02/oregon-college-shooting/73192562/

Authorities confiscated 13 weapons associated with the shooter, six at the sight of the killings and seven at his apartment, Celinez Nunez, assistant agent in charge at Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, told reporters Friday. Nunez said all the weapons had been purchased legally by the shooter or members of is family.

The ATF agent also said a flak jacket outfitted with a steel plate and containing 5 magazines of ammunition was found next to a rifle belonging to the gunman at the scene of the shootings.

The rambling document left behind, and believed to be written by the shooter, lamented an isolated life with little promise, the official said.

The contents and tone of the document, the official said, tracked the often desperate and depressed writings from members of a loosely affiliated group known as the "beta boys."

midnight rambler
2nd October 2015, 02:38 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/10/02/oregon-college-shooting/73192562/


Holy shit! The father of the shooter has Spock ears!!! :o

chad
2nd October 2015, 03:05 PM
The whole "EVERY SHOOTING IS A FALSE FLAG" narrative is dangerous and makes the Truther community look retarded.


This shooting actually only works in the government's favor if people don't know the race, don't know he targeted Christians, and don't know he was possibly a Muslim.

AMEN. I saw "The Oregon Shoting was a Hoax EXPOSED" videos literally 2 hours after the shooting yesterday. Stop being a fucking idiot, already.

slvrbugjim
2nd October 2015, 03:17 PM
The whole "EVERY SHOOTING IS A FALSE FLAG" narrative is dangerous and makes the Truther community look retarded.


This shooting actually only works in the government's favor if people don't know the race, don't know he targeted Christians, and don't know he was possibly a Muslim. Not true, just like the tv reporter fake shooter it appeared as though it was to get white people to shout about black on white crime, now that he is a Muslim it plays perfectly to the scary muzzumm are every where and he was inspired by the very very scary "ISIS" this one smells too but a lot of people saying they heard nothing and we have a hero that took over as he took 5 rounds then in a few hours later sending out pictures of him smiling in the hospital ooohh but we always need to have a hero, like the 6 yr old boy that threw himself to save the other 6 year olds at Sandy Hoax.


the hero is Chris Mintz and he has already gotten $287,000 at his go fund me account here it is if you want to give

https://www.gofundme.com/s75ge9y4

slvrbugjim
2nd October 2015, 03:38 PM
French train hero Alek Skarlatos leaves 'DWTS' to be at Umpqua with students at former school
Hmm Fake French train hero has ties to the school

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2015/10/02/french-train-hero-alek-skarlatos-leaves-dwts-to-be-at-umpqua/

Glass
2nd October 2015, 03:42 PM
he took 5 rounds then in a few hours later sending out pictures of him smiling in the hospital

7 rounds now.

Do we know anything about the Armed Air Force who says staff stopped them going to deal with it.
http://investmentwatchblog.com/watch-armed-air-force-vet-who-was-on-umpqua-campus-reveals-what-stopped-him-from-helping/

palani
2nd October 2015, 05:32 PM
Criticizing Sheriff Hanlin is just way out of bounds, Sheriff Hanlin is a very high profile pro-gun advocate.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/10/02/3708466/the-sheriff-investigating-the-oregon-shooting-believes-some-seriously-fringe-things-about-guns/

The Sheriff Investigating The Oregon Shooting Believes Some Seriously Fringe Things About Guns

http://cdn.thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/02101403/HanlinLetter.jpg

midnight rambler
2nd October 2015, 05:53 PM
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/10/02/3708466/the-sheriff-investigating-the-oregon-shooting-believes-some-seriously-fringe-things-about-guns/

The Sheriff Investigating The Oregon Shooting Believes Some Seriously Fringe Things About Guns



Which leads me to conclude that his county was targeted so as to reflect very poorly on him. Frankly I cannot think of much of anything that would make him look worse.

palani
2nd October 2015, 06:00 PM
his county was targeted

Obama Administration and UN Announce Global Police Force to Fight ‘Extremism’ In U.S.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/02/obama-administration-and-un-announce-global-police-force-to-fight-extremism-in-u-s/


On Wednesday, Attorney General Loretta Lynch announced at the United Nations that her office would be working in several American cities to form what she called the Strong Cities Network (SCN), a law enforcement initiative that would encompass the globe.

This amounts to nothing less than the overriding of American laws, up to and including the United States Constitution, in favor of United Nations laws that would henceforth be implemented in the United States itself – without any consultation of Congress at all.

The United Nations is a sharia-compliant world body, and Obama, speaking there just days ago, insisted that “violent extremism” is not exclusive to Islam (which it is). Obama is redefining jihad terror to include everyone but the jihadists. So will the UN, driven largely by the sharia-enforcing Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) and the pro-Islamic post-American President Obama, use a “global police force” to crush counter-jihad forces?

After all, with Obama knowingly aiding al-Qaeda forces in Syria, how likely is it that he will use his “global police force” against actual Islamic jihadists? I suspect that instead, this global police force will be used to impose the blasphemy laws under the sharia (Islamic law), and to silence all criticism of Islam for the President who proclaimed that “the future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.”

monty
2nd October 2015, 06:52 PM
Which leads me to conclude that his county was targeted so as to reflect very poorly on him. Frankly I cannot think of much of anything that would make him look worse.


I had reached the same conclusion. This just shores up my belief.

midnight rambler
2nd October 2015, 06:56 PM
I had reached the same conclusion. This just shores up my belief.

The subsequent conclusion is that the Death Cult is getting better and better with their MC drones.

Did you see the shooter's (alleged) father in that video?? The fucker looked like an alien with those Mr. Spock/Vulcan ears. Sheeeet.

LOOK!

https://spthumbnails.5min.com/10382509/519125417_c_570_411.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/10/02/17/2D0098CB00000578-3257791-image-m-6_1443801694296.jpg

Left ear is not as pointed as the right ear which definitely has that Vulcan look going on -

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/webimage/1.7492726.1443772184!/image/1369075499.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/1369075499.jpg

midnight rambler
2nd October 2015, 09:14 PM
An example of what affirmative action gets ya, a stupid bitch without a clue in charge. She calls body armor a "flank jacket" instead of flak jacket (at 0:40) -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwwgA9n-o-E

midnight rambler
2nd October 2015, 09:18 PM
The online username 'lithium love' and other aspects of this character indicate a perfect candidate to be groomed for MC.

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2015/10/new_details_emerge_on_umpqua_c.html

Glass
2nd October 2015, 09:58 PM
So initially it was 13 dead. Then it was 10 or something. Now it's 9 Dead 9 wounded and 13 weapons. nice numbers

Rubicon
2nd October 2015, 10:26 PM
An example of what affirmative action gets ya ...

7878

singular_me
3rd October 2015, 01:06 AM
a good recap


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeM0W9duWPg

Down1
3rd October 2015, 05:38 AM
Men with Flank Jackets and Salt Weapons will be the death of this country.
We must do something.

Spectrism
3rd October 2015, 07:03 AM
She got the script wrong too. In the beginning she says there are a total or 13 weapons. She breaks them down- 6 from school and 7 at shooter's residence. Then she says all 14 were traced to dealer. And then she breaks down stats on the 14. LOL... the government dun good wit diss affirmativ hire.

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3rd October 2015, 09:14 AM
Netanyahu compares Oregon shooting to West Bank violence

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United Nations (United States) (AFP) - Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Friday said his country and the United States were united in grief over the Oregon shooting and the double murder of Jewish settlers in the West Bank.
Netanyahu drew the comparison at the start of a meeting with US Secretary of State John Kerry in New York, on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly.
"Today, Israel and America are united in grief," Netanyahu said.
A Jewish settler couple was shot in front of their young children on Thursday during an apparent drive-by attack in the West Bank that was condemned by the United States.
On the same day, nine people were gunned down at a community college in Oregon by a heavily-armed 26-year-old, the latest in a string of US school shootings.
"Our hearts go out to the families of the Israelis who have been lost, but our hearts also go out to the people in Oregon too, where we've had our own violence in our country," said Kerry.
Holding his first meeting with Netanyahu in months, Kerry said he wanted to talk about "violence -- too much, particularly in your part of the world."


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View Comments (579) ..............USA today is not occupying,oppressing and stealing anyone's land like Israel,which keeps committing war crimes in Palestine and when the natives resist they are punished collectively ,it is understandable that the lucifers chosen psychopathic Slav serfs of dumb polacks from Eastern Europe of Jew wannabes do that,but it is shameful that a moral ,rule of law country like the USA is forced by AIPAC to support the sand monkey Jews monstrosity!

ImaCannin
3rd October 2015, 10:17 AM
I wonder what magazines they found on him?
http://www.redstate.com/uploads/2015/01/mohammadlarge.jpg
Or
http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/The+cover+of+the+new+mad+magazine_202a4b_4943291.j pg
Or
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Or
http://cdn2-www.craveonline.com/assets/uploads/2014/10/MAD-Magazine-530-FINAL.jpg

PatColo
3rd October 2015, 10:58 AM
he's BAAAAAACK!!


Virginia Shooting Hoax Crisis Actor Calls War For Oregon (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWs7siALk-I)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWs7siALk-I

midnight rambler
3rd October 2015, 11:21 AM
RedsilverJ needs to back the fuck off Sheriff Hanlin, totally undeserved. While there have been other shootings that were hoaxed, this definitely wasn't one, the primary target of this shooting via a MC drone WAS Sheriff Hanlin. Sheriff Hanlin got neutralized.

midnight rambler
3rd October 2015, 02:43 PM
More info on shooter, he apparently WAS a student and he shot his own English professor very first thing -

http://news.yahoo.com/oregon-gunman-may-killed-more-not-hero-student-023653508.html

slvrbugjim
3rd October 2015, 02:45 PM
RedsilverJ needs to back the fuck off Sheriff Hanlin, totally undeserved. While there have been other shootings that were hoaxed, this definitely wasn't one, the primary target of this shooting via a MC drone WAS Sheriff Hanlin. Sheriff Hanlin got neutralized.
Hmm well then why continue to use the same fake actors if it is real, the very same actor in the news reporter shooting, was no doubt fake shows up again, looks like a duck, walks like a duck

midnight rambler
3rd October 2015, 03:14 PM
Hmm well then why continue to use the same fake actors if it is real, the very same actor in the news reporter shooting, was no doubt fake shows up again, looks like a duck, walks like a duck

SURELY you can see this was a neutralization hit on Sheriff Hanlin and there was nothing faked about this particular incident*. Shooter was most likely a MC drone in sleeper mode up until the time was right** to neutralize the VERY outspoken Sheriff Hanlin (the very belligerent *in your face* letter he sent to Biden along with the 'conspiracy theory' video about SH he posted to his FB page, both of which he did in mid January 2013, along with being an Oath Keepers supporter made Hanlin one of the most prominent RKBA advovates in public office). Note that the shooter and his mother relocated to Hanlin's county in 2013 shortly after Hanlin went extremely high profile on gun rights. Reports are that shooter and his mother began their gun acquistions sometime late 2012 to early 2013.

Message to any other elected officials who are vocally pro-gun: "See what we did to Hanlin? We'll do the same to you...or worse, if you stand in our way."

*the only thing faked imo is the shooter acting independently and not as a MC drone

**the timing was certainly synced to further the gun control push

Hanlin testifying against universal background checks at the Oregon lege -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FOPqmedbwc

slvrbugjim
3rd October 2015, 05:06 PM
SURELY you can see this was a neutralization hit on Sheriff Hanlin and there was nothing faked about this particular incident*. Shooter was most likely a MC drone in sleeper mode up until the time was right** to neutralize the VERY outspoken Sheriff Hanlin (the very belligerent *in your face* letter he sent to Biden along with the 'conspiracy theory' video about SH he posted to his FB page, both of which he did in mid January 2013, along with being an Oath Keepers supporter made Hanlin one of the most prominent RKBA advovates in public office). Note that the shooter and his mother relocated to Hanlin's county in 2013 shortly after Hanlin went extremely high profile on gun rights. Reports are that shooter and his mother began their gun acquistions sometime late 2012 to early 2013.

Message to any other elected officials who are vocally pro-gun: "See what we did to Hanlin? We'll do the same to you...or worse, if you stand in our way."

*the only thing faked imo is the shooter acting independently and not as a MC drone

**the timing was certainly synced to further the gun control push

Hanlin testifying against universal background checks at the Oregon lege -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FOPqmedbwc
Could have been real shooting I guess as the Sheriff would come out and say so then use the crisis actors for added effect. interesting that there does not seem to be one single cell phone video out there showing what was going on.

I see what you are saying w regards to him being a target, surprising he was not just suicided

but he could have been targeted and the whole thing still could be a hoax certainly smells like it

midnight rambler
3rd October 2015, 05:15 PM
This Sheriff Hanlin strikes me as a no nonsense sort of fellow who's heart is in the right place.


surprising he was not just suicided

IMO he was subjected to a fate worse than death, he will now probably have a well funded opponent in the next election - can you guess the outcome? And a suicide in this instance would definitely draw the wrong attention. As always, the Death Cult conducts an operation with multiple objectives, not just one.


there does not seem to be one single cell phone video out there showing what was going on.

All the cell phones were confiscated, and that's the last we heard of that.

PatColo
3rd October 2015, 06:52 PM
http://nodisinfo.com/ has nothing (yet) on this event; he's usually pretty quick to call hoax. His last update was 9/21.

http://memoryholeblog.com/ has a couple blog entries on this OR "event", and he's usually quite cautious. And the comments are always worthwhile; though I haven't read them.


My top indicator, at least before harder video anomaly evidence comes out, is "how does the national joozmedia manage the story? Are Obummer & other pol's in front of the cameras with anti-constitutional spiels within hours? Supposed family members & survivors? Does joozmedia keep the story front-paged for days after?"

^ so far this OR story doesn't pass that test. And apparently video-phones were confiscated... :|~ It's largely been video anomalies which have busted djooz' other hoaxed shootings/bombings

PatColo
3rd October 2015, 06:57 PM
IMO he was subjected to a fate worse than death, he will now probably have a well funded opponent in the next election - can you guess the outcome? And a suicide in this instance would definitely draw the wrong attention. As always, the Death Cult conducts an operation with multiple objectives, not just one.

County sheriffs normally get a pretty sweet retirement package. But he prolly loves being sheriff; plus his loss would be a big loss for gun rights... no more bully pulpit.

Shami-Amourae
3rd October 2015, 09:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9ig26guvsI

slvrbugjim
3rd October 2015, 09:11 PM
^ so far this OR story doesn't pass that test. And apparently video-phones were confiscated... http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/smilies/300%20%2820%29.gif It's largely been video anomalies which have busted djooz' other hoaxed shootings/bombings

I think this is important, so no un approved videos got out there

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1005848336104166&set=p.1005848336104166&type=3


these screen shots showed up as not viewable


and the Gene Rosen award goes to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=73&v=GA-QSpzZT64

and another screen shot of another one
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1005848902770776&set=p.1005848902770776&type=3 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1005848902770776&set=p.1005848902770776&type=3)

midnight rambler
3rd October 2015, 10:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9ig26guvsI

Wrong, that would be Clayton Bigsby.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u__W0Qa8v0k

JohnQPublic
3rd October 2015, 11:17 PM
Could have been real shooting I guess as the Sheriff would come out and say so then use the crisis actors for added effect. interesting that there does not seem to be one single cell phone video out there showing what was going on.

I see what you are saying w regards to him being a target, surprising he was not just suicided

but he could have been targeted and the whole thing still could be a hoax certainly smells like it

Maybe my question has been answered?

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?85352-15-dead-more-than-20-injured-in-Oregon-shooting&p=794013&viewfull=1#post794013

"Sometime later, students’ cell phones were confiscated and they were escorted out of their buildings with their hands up as authorities patted them down and lined them up to be evacuated on buses, according to NRToday."

Why?

PatColo
4th October 2015, 12:26 PM
Oregon Shooting Hoax: Crisis Actor Gunman's Father Pushing Gun Control (Redsilverj) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0flTA-4SWWs)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0flTA-4SWWs

PatColo
4th October 2015, 12:46 PM
October 4, 2015 (http://memoryholeblog.com/2015/10/04/oregon-community-colleges-play-host-to-numerous-active-shooter-drills/)
Oregon State Agencies, Community Colleges Host Numerous “Active Shooter” Drills (http://memoryholeblog.com/2015/10/04/oregon-community-colleges-play-host-to-numerous-active-shooter-drills/) 16 (http://memoryholeblog.com/2015/10/04/oregon-community-colleges-play-host-to-numerous-active-shooter-drills/#comments) by James Tracy (http://memoryholeblog.com/author/truthgulag/) • Documents (http://memoryholeblog.com/category/documents/), Home (http://memoryholeblog.com/category/home/) • Tags: Department of Homeland Security (http://memoryholeblog.com/tag/department-of-homeland-security/), drills (http://memoryholeblog.com/tag/drills/), gun control (http://memoryholeblog.com/tag/gun-control/), public opinion

(http://memoryholeblog.com/tag/public-opinion/)

https://memorygapdotorg.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/oregondrills14.png?w=300&h=224 (https://memorygapdotorg.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/oregondrills14.png)

Umpqua College Recipient of $2 Million Fed Grant, Features On-Campus Police Academy

From the Max Quigley Report (https://mackquigley.wordpress.com/2015/10/03/hoax-shooting-in-roseburg-oregon/) w/ Editing, Graphics by MHB


https://memorygapdotorg.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/oregondrills7.png?w=474&h=215

(http://www.bendbulletin.com/slideshows/2407626-151/deschutes-county-agencies-stage-active-shooter-drill-at)

Oregon did dress rehearsal “active shooter” drill last year at Central Oregon Community College:
http://www.bendbulletin.com/slideshows/2407626-151/deschutes-county-agencies-stage-active-shooter-drill-at
Another:
More… (http://memoryholeblog.com/2015/10/04/oregon-community-colleges-play-host-to-numerous-active-shooter-drills/#more-19964)

palani
4th October 2015, 01:38 PM
OOOPS!!!

http://www.eutimes.net/2015/10/oregon-mass-shooter-on-terror-list-obama-refused-to-take-from-russia/


Oregon Mass Shooter On Terror List Obama Refused To Take From Russia


The Federal Security Services (FSB) is reporting today that an American black-Islamist terror suspect, who yesterday committed an act of mass murder in the State of Oregon (United States), had been included on a list of 87,000 “known/suspected” Islamic terrorists that the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL) refused last month to accept from the Federation due to its not being “politically viable in the present atmosphere”.

According to this report, the black-Islamist terrorist who committed this act of terror, Chris Harper Mercer, had previously been indentified by electronic intelligence specialists within the Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) as being an Islamic State (ISIS/ISIL) adherent after he had attempted to gain passage to Syria via Turkey during the first week of September, 2015.

By the Obama regime refusing to accept this terror list from the Federation, this report continues, Mercer was able to accomplish his terror act when yesterday he killed 9 people and wounded 7 others at the Umpqua Community College prior to his being shot and killed by local US police forces.

midnight rambler
4th October 2015, 01:52 PM
OOOPS!!!

http://www.eutimes.net/2015/10/oregon-mass-shooter-on-terror-list-obama-refused-to-take-from-russia/


Oregon Mass Shooter On Terror List Obama Refused To Take From Russia


You've been hoaxed by Sorcha Faal.

midnight rambler
4th October 2015, 01:53 PM
October 4, 2015 (http://memoryholeblog.com/2015/10/04/oregon-community-colleges-play-host-to-numerous-active-shooter-drills/)
Oregon State Agencies, Community Colleges Host Numerous “Active Shooter” Drills (http://memoryholeblog.com/2015/10/04/oregon-community-colleges-play-host-to-numerous-active-shooter-drills/) 16 (http://memoryholeblog.com/2015/10/04/oregon-community-colleges-play-host-to-numerous-active-shooter-drills/#comments)

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https://memorygapdotorg.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/oregondrills14.png?w=300&h=224 (https://memorygapdotorg.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/oregondrills14.png)

Umpqua College Recipient of $2 Million Fed Grant, Features On-Campus Police Academy

From the Max Quigley Report (https://mackquigley.wordpress.com/2015/10/03/hoax-shooting-in-roseburg-oregon/) w/ Editing, Graphics by MHB
https://memorygapdotorg.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/oregondrills7.png?w=474&h=215

(http://www.bendbulletin.com/slideshows/2407626-151/deschutes-county-agencies-stage-active-shooter-drill-at)

Oregon did dress rehearsal “active shooter” drill last year at Central Oregon Community College:
http://www.bendbulletin.com/slideshows/2407626-151/deschutes-county-agencies-stage-active-shooter-drill-at
Another:
More… (http://memoryholeblog.com/2015/10/04/oregon-community-colleges-play-host-to-numerous-active-shooter-drills/#more-19964)

Last year?!?!?? Active shooter drills are ROUTINE these days...hello?

midnight rambler
4th October 2015, 01:56 PM
Oregon Shooting Hoax: Crisis Actor Gunman's Father Pushing Gun Control (Redsilverj) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0flTA-4SWWs)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0flTA-4SWWs

RedsilverJ is NOT helping our cause with his completely off base nonsense. Sheriff Hanlin was neutralized by a MC drone, wake the fuck up and get a clue.

Here's a clue for you - we haven't heard a SINGLE word from Sheriff Hanlin in support of gun control.

palani
4th October 2015, 02:15 PM
You've been hoaxed
I don't repeat rumors so listen up close the first time ... :-)

PatColo
4th October 2015, 04:39 PM
RedsilverJ is NOT helping our cause with his completely off base nonsense. Sheriff Hanlin was neutralized by a MC drone, wake the fuck up and get a clue.

Here's a clue for you - we haven't heard a SINGLE word from Sheriff Hanlin in support of gun control.

the redsilverj video you cited was focused on the pretend shooter's pretend father, not the sheriff... that was one of his previous vids.
https://www.youtube.com/user/TeamWakeEmUP/videos

I could imagine that Hanlin was one of the targets of this OR event, which has many of the markings of another hoax... another rapid obummer guns=bad speech; the requisite meygan kelly interview with survivor/family actors; VA event's pretend father actor's popping off about it, etc. This OR event just lacks video which is full of holes.

mick silver
4th October 2015, 04:42 PM
Here's a clue for you - we haven't heard a SINGLE word from Sheriff Hanlin in support of gun control.
and you will not they done shut hanlin down

midnight rambler
4th October 2015, 04:47 PM
Here's a clue for you - we haven't heard a SINGLE word from Sheriff Hanlin in support of gun control.
and you will not they done shut hanlin down

My point was that IF this was a staged/fake event then Hanlin would have said SOMETHING showing he's had a change of heart, and he hasn't, not ONE WORD in support of gun control. They got him by the short hairs, his FB page had that SH 'conspiracy theory' video amongst other things which have all been deleted/switched to private in the aftermath of this incident. Case in point - he's been grilled about his FB page with those posts and he's apparently lied by saying he didn't post/wasn't responsible for those pro-gun/fake SH posts on his own FB page.

PatColo
4th October 2015, 04:48 PM
this "Free Radio Revolution" group also makes debunking videos, https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9vrYkPaH1D60jr4jwGDIlg/videos

Truth Bomb (The Amazing Atheist) Gun Control, The UCC (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_1kwmfYN4w)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_1kwmfYN4w


WOW! Oregon Shooting Hoax Crisis Actor Stacy Boylen - Uhhh (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzg1x2MUk-Y)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzg1x2MUk-Y

midnight rambler
4th October 2015, 04:54 PM
this "Free Radio Revolution" group also makes debunking videos, https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9vrYkPaH1D60jr4jwGDIlg/videos

Truth Bomb (The Amazing Atheist) Gun Control, The UCC (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_1kwmfYN4w)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_1kwmfYN4w


WOW! Oregon Shooting Hoax Crisis Actor Stacy Boylen - Uhhh (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzg1x2MUk-Y)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzg1x2MUk-Y

Really, you have to ask yourself - which is easier to pull off? Staging a hoax with MANY actors and with all the potential *real* witnesses popping up and saying, "Uh...no..." OR sending in a single, well-programmed MC drone strategically placed into position as a sleeper* YEARS in advance?

The guy narrating the 2nd video is a genuine dipshit, and could even be working for the competition sucking the naive into more utter nonsense.

*SURELY you comprehend that there are hundreds if not thousands of MC sleepers positioned virtually everywhere just waiting for their trigger/activation at this point

PatColo
4th October 2015, 07:14 PM
The guy narrating the 2nd video is a genuine dipshit, and could even be working for the competition sucking the naive into more utter nonsense.

I'll grant that his ("JeffC" of Canada) fake laughing/cackling at predetermined points is annoying. He obviosly previewed the MKelly interview before deciding to make a video of it, so it was at least the 2nd time he was viewing it, laying the lie to his fake laughing outbursts. but the points he was making had merit.

As with sandy hoax and the other shooting/bombing hoaxes, all-actors means no noisy inconvenient survivor/families lawsuits & speaking tours like those which followed 911.

New from JeffC,

Oregon Shooting Hoax: Mother: Gunman spared my son's life Crisis Actor (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFo50Jiy03Q)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFo50Jiy03Q

midnight rambler
4th October 2015, 07:49 PM
You know, I'd be real fucking careful about getting sucked into the 'this is fake' bullshit.

Cebu_4_2
4th October 2015, 08:10 PM
You know, I'd be real fucking careful about getting sucked into the 'this is fake' bullshit.


Hahaha, just what I was thinking. We usually agree on most FF but this one is different. I wonder what happened to the Sheriff?

midnight rambler
4th October 2015, 08:45 PM
Hahaha, just what I was thinking. We usually agree on most FF but this one is different. I wonder what happened to the Sheriff?

Some may have some doubts about Sheriff Hanlin's sincerity, however I don't. NONE.

cheka.
5th October 2015, 05:17 AM
will the families get 3+ million each like in the sc event?

http://www.newsweek.com/us-fast-track-29-million-help-charleston-shooting-victims-families-345246

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Justice Department will fast track the sending of $29 million to South Carolina to help families of victims of the mass murder of nine churchgoers at a historic black church in Charleston, a Justice Department spokesman said on Friday.

palani
5th October 2015, 05:35 AM
The mind conjures up images that it then interprets as real. Imaginary things are thus brought into a form of quasi-existence. They are actually not real but the mind pretends as if they were. Real things you can taste, see, feel, hear or smell. Another attribute of real things .... they have a reflection in a mirror.

If you were to apply some thought to what is real and what is not real you might want to consider casting everything into the NOT REAL bin and transfer it to the REAL bin after if passes your test. If it passes some tests but not others then you might have a QUASI-REAL bin to store stuff in for future reference.

Belief is a mind thing. It has no bearing at all on whether a thing is real or not. You might consider belief to be an attribute of the QUASI-REAL bin items.

Color me skeptical.

Cebu_4_2
5th October 2015, 07:39 AM
No one heard any shots?


http://youtu.be/AhpWwTR4TFc

https://youtu.be/AhpWwTR4TFc

Cebu_4_2
5th October 2015, 07:51 AM
Shot seven times: The hero who threw himself at Oregon college gunman
A FORMER soldier was hailed the hero of the American college massacre last night as the first of 10 victims shot dead by half-British gunman Chris Harper Mercer was named.
By Cyril Dixon
PUBLISHED: 21:28, Fri, Oct 2, 2015 | UPDATED: 22:09, Fri, Oct 2, 2015

Heroic ex-soldier Chris Mintz in hospitalUNIVERSAL
Heroic ex-soldier Chris Mintz in hospital

Mature student Chris Mintz, 30, survived being shot seven times as he threw himself at Nazi-obsessed Harper Mercer to protect his classmates.

The father-of-one suffered two broken legs and multiple gunshot wounds as he took on the gunman, 26, at Umpqua College, in Oregon.

But sitting up in his hospital bed yesterday, he played down praise that he had helped to save lives, saying: “I’m just worried about everyone else.”

Fellow survivor Hannah Miles revealed: “Chris ran to the library and pulled the alarms and he was telling people to run. He was grabbing people, telling them, ‘You just have to go’.

“He ran back into the building where the shooting was.”

Lucero Alcaraz, one of the gunman's victimsSG
The attack claimed the life of 10 victims, including 19-year-old student Lucero Alcaraz

Ian MercerPA
Shocked father of the gunman Ian Mercer spoke to the press for the first time yesterday

Mr Mintz, who was in a stable condition last night at the state’s Mercy Medical Centre, is training to be a sports coach and had been enjoying his six-year-old son’s birthday when the shooting began on Thursday.

He ran back into the building where the shooting was

Chris Mintz

Harper Mercer was shot dead after police arrived at the scene and engaged him in a gun battle.

The first of his victims was named as Lucero Alcaraz, a 19-year-old from a loving family of six children.

Her sister Eileen, 14, said she had recently left high school and wanted to become a nurse or a paediatrician.

Lucero’s older sister Maria added on on Facebook: “I miss you, I love you, and I wish I could see you walk through the front door right this second.

“I don’t know how I will make it through this... I don’t know if I can ever relieve this pain.”

Gunman Chris Harper MercerPA
Deranged gunman Chris Harper Mercer, who was later killed in a shoot out with police

Students being searched in OregonAP
Students with hands on heads as they are searched in the wake of the slaughter in Oregon

Harper Mercer opened fire in a classroom after marching on to the site wearing body armour and toting three pistols, a rifle and five extra magazines of ammunition.

Survivors said he asked his victims to state their religion before shooting them, telling Christians: “Because you’re a Christian, you’re going to see God in just about one second.”

The product of a brief relationship between British-born restaurant owner Ian Mercer and American Laurel Harper, he was revealed soon after the massacre to have been very troubled.

Dad Ian, who lives in Reseda, California, said yesterday: “I’m just as shocked as everybody. It is devastating for me and for my family.”

Mr Mercer grew up in Preston, Lancashire, where his widower father Joseph, 77, lives.

A victim is carried away from the Oregon shootingAP
One of the victims of the Umpqua shooting is carried away by paramedics

Armed police storm the schoolAP
Armed police surrounded and stormed the school, before killing Chris Harper Mercer in a shoot out

Neighbours said the gunman was not born in Britain and had only visited once, for the funeral of his grandmother June four years ago.

But they said Harper Mercer enjoyed his grandfather’s regular visits to America.

“Joseph went over to visit about three weeks ago and was due to come back later this month. He visits about four times a year,” said one neighbour.

“He will be devastated at what has happened. He spends a lot of time in America now his wife has died. He hasn’t flown back to Britain because of the shooting.

Student of Umpqua college hold a candlelight vigilAP
Students of Umpqua College hold a candlelight vigil

“He would often talk about his family and they obviously meant a lot to him.

“I think Joe’s sons moved away many years ago and have made a good life for themselves over there. It is so sad. I really feel for him. I can’t imagine how he is feeling.”

After the killings, a picture began to emerge of Harper Mercer as a twisted loner with a collection of bitter obsessions, including the IRA and the Nazis.

As well as the 10 fatalities, police believe another seven people were injured.

cheka.
5th October 2015, 09:15 AM
uh oh....we have a manifesto. gay rights? gun control? globalist warming?

http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_28923522/oregon-shooting-what-gunman-gave-student-he-spared

ROSEBURG, Ore. -- An Oregon pastor says the gunman in Thursday's deadly campus rampage deliberately spared one student, giving him an envelope with a flash drive and ordering him to watch as his classmates were killed.

Randy Scroggins, whose daughter also survived the shooting at Umpqua Community College, spoke at his church Sunday as his daughter and the other student, 18-year-old Mathew Downing, sat together in the congregation. Scroggins' daughter Lacey had told him that gunman Christopher Sean Harper-Mercer gave an envelope to another student in the class and told him to give it to police.

A law enforcement official has previously told The Associated Press a "manifesto" from Harper-Mercer was recovered at the scene. The official wasn't authorized to speak publicly and spoke on the condition of anonymity.

slvrbugjim
5th October 2015, 12:24 PM
Heroic ex-soldier Chris Mintz go fund me now at $764,000 the man did get paid wow

https://www.gofundme.com/s75ge9y4

midnight rambler
5th October 2015, 12:34 PM
For all of you who somehow think this is fake/hoaxed it would follow that you also think Sheriff Hanlin is in on it. And because of that you're doing our cause no good whatsoever. Sheriff Hanlin is a very courageous man and one of the good guys on our side.

mick silver
5th October 2015, 12:38 PM
midnight do you know him if so why has he not came out and said some thing ?

midnight rambler
5th October 2015, 12:46 PM
midnight do you know him if so why has he not came out and said some thing ?

I take it you have no idea of his extremely outspoken pro-gun stance that's well established - which is why I keep asserting he was targeted for being neutralized with MC drone programmed specifically for that purpose.

mick silver
5th October 2015, 12:49 PM
I know he pro-gun but why has he not came out and talked about what has happen more

midnight rambler
5th October 2015, 12:51 PM
I know he pro-gun but why has he not came out and talked about what has happen more

I'm hoping that perhaps once he and his deputies have concluded their investigation he will, however he HAS been neutralized and now it's 'message received' as in "I get the message, now I will STFU." I'm quite sure that Sheriff Hanlin has had an epiphany as to just how powerful the Death Cult is.

slvrbugjim
5th October 2015, 02:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=138&v=7DiKCC5hJqc

.......................

mick silver
5th October 2015, 03:45 PM
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In the alleged manifesto, which is roughly six pages long, the 26-year-old gunman reportedly says he always felt like "the most hated person in the world."









"I was hated ever since I arrived in the world," Oregon shooter (http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2015/10/barack-obama-talks-oregon-shooting-pleads-for-gun-control) Chris Harper-Mercer reportedly said in a manifesto discovered on his computer. "I was always under attack. I've always been the most hated person in the world." The manifesto, recently excerpted to People (http://www.people.com/article/oregon-shooting-chris-harper-mercer-said-he-was-born-bad) via "sources familiar with the investigation," reveals that Mercer (http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2015/10/here-is-everything-we-know-about-the-umpqua-college-oregon-shooter-chris-harper-mercer) felt there was nothing that could have been done to prevent his tragic actions (http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2015/10/cnn-responds-to-barack-obama-request-for-comparison-of-gun-violence-and-terrorism-statistics) at Umpqua Community College, as society had forced him to align himself with his demons:

"He says, 'Many will ask how can they have prevented this? You can't. You could never give me what I wanted. Nothing could have stopped it,' " the source tells PEOPLE.

"He talks about other mass killers, and says, 'These people were denied everything they deserved and wanted.' "

Mercer then purportedly expresses skepticism that anything could have turned his life around: "He asks, 'What was supposed to happen? What great event was supposed to make me realize I had so much going for me?' " the source says.

Abandoned and alone, Mercer allegedly writes, "I've been forced to align myself with these demons and become one of them. At first, it was involuntary, but now I am aligned with them. I now serve. When I die I will become one of them."

He adds: "My success in Hell is assured."
Mercer ultimately committed suicide (http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2015/10/oregon-school-shooter-committed-suicide-medical-examiner-says) after taking the lives of nine people and injuring others, a harrowing event that quickly triggered another debate in America regarding the future of potential gun law reform. Consequently, a Republican-led avoidance of the gun control topic entirely inspired a separate debate (http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2015/10/john-oliver-blasts-republicans-oregon-shooting-reaction-and-discusses-need-for-mental-healthcare-reform) regarding the current status of mental health services in this country.
Prompted by President Barack Obama's request during a statement on the Oregon shooting, various publications compiled comparison charts of deaths from terrorism and deaths from gun violence (http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2015/10/cnn-responds-to-barack-obama-request-for-comparison-of-gun-violence-and-terrorism-statistics). The results, as one might expect, paint a very detailed picture of the issue's most pressing realities.
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mick silver
5th October 2015, 05:09 PM
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There is a deep sickness beginning to take hold of the American psyche that threatens to undermine the already shaken stability of the lives of everyone in this country.
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It appears that America is coming apart at the seams. Routine school shootings, the reemergence of overt racism, anti-government paranoia on the rise, exaggerated threats of germs and terrorists lurking around every corner, government indifference to the hollowing out of the middle class, military tactics employed by officers of the peace—signs of societal disintegration are everywhere. And now we have witnessed the murder of two journalists on live TV and must endure the relentless exploitative media coverage that inevitably follows. While it is true that there always will be social unrest and all manner of cultural crises, the current state of affairs strikes many as beyond the ordinary—and I must cautiously cast my vote in agreement.

Is the sky falling? Maybe, maybe not, but there is a deep sickness beginning to take hold of the American psyche that threatens to undermine the principles that have long held the democratic experiment together. Although there are a variety of legitimate perspectives concerning this dilemma, I will propose my analysis of the psychiatric state of the American mind, an analysis that is largely colored by my vantage point as a holistic physician with a conventional medical educational background.

One hopes that this time in history, like the sixties social revolution, is just another growth spurt of the American psyche. One hopes that the country's growing pains will eventually lead to a more mature national perspective, one that is tolerant of ethnic, sexual, and religious diversity, and one that rediscovers the importance of giving the common good the renewed emphasis that it so desperately needs. But there are destructive forces at play that pose a significant threat to our way of life.

There are a number of factors contributing to the gradual disintegration of the American character. They are, in no particular order, materialism, corporatism, consumerism, war, violence, and the modern scientific worldview (in particular, the lack of basic human values and the shortsighted form of medicine that this worldview has spawned). The common denominators that drive all of these factors are those instincts for survival that kick in when one feels one's security threatened, fear and greed.

Is it a simple matter, therefore, of reaffirming kindness, civility, and respect for others as our guiding principles? I think not, because the forces at play run deep and they have altered both the collective American psyche and individual psyches in ways that are beyond the control of many. Kindness certainly goes a long way, but it is likely to have little effect on the narcissistic personality. So, let's examine some of the forces that I allude to, forces that are stunting the maturation of the collective American character.

Broadly speaking, we can characterize the fear that eats at the Western mind in medical terms, as having both acute and chronic maintaining factors. The source of the more immediate of the two—acute fear—should be evident to most thoughtful persons. It is hard to ignore the tsunami of violence that permeates American culture. Recent headlines announced that 2015 has just marked the 204th mass shooting in the past 204 days. (1) (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/07/24/there-have-been-204-mass-shootings-and-204-days-in-2015-so-far/) We are a society at perpetual war, with military forces stationed all over the globe to protect our "strategic interests." Most justify it in their minds as the price we pay for freedom and peace. When the blowback comes, it reinforces our projections of "them" as the enemies of peace. As the cycle of war and violence escalates, we up the ante, convinced that more gun ownership and increased military spending will protect us from harm.

The consequence of so much violence is a culture that reflects that violence in its news reporting, with each fresh trauma, large and small, voyeuristically revisited ad nauseam by infotainment talking heads. It is also reflected in the recreational options that we choose, provided to us by an unapologetically exploitative media. Movies, TV programming, and video games expose us to unprecedented violent content that we seem more than willing to accept. Denying the linkage between war, recreational violence, and mental illness (http://gold-silver.us/blog/top-5-ways-improve-your-mental-wellness) is just further evidence of how sick our society has become.

It is fair to say that America is collectively exhibiting all the signs of a full-blown case of PTSD (post-traumatic stress disorder) (http://gold-silver.us/disease/post-traumatic-stress-disorders-ptsd). (2) (http://gold-silver.us/disease/post-traumatic-stress-disorders-ptsd) (3) (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-malerba/homeopathy-ptsd_b_1649398.html) Once in the grips of PTSD, its victims tend to perceive threats where there are none, threats that elicit varying intensities of two primary responses, fear and aggression. Our uniquely American strain of PTSD manifests as a distinct fear of outsiders, invaders from beyond our borders, people who are different from us.

I suspect that this has much to do with our unique geographic state of security, with vast oceans to the east and west, and a benign Canadian frontier to the north. There seems to be a direct proportionality between the intensity of the perceived threat that we experience and the degree of comfort and safety that we enjoy here at home. Although we remain safely ensconced thousands of miles from the nearest conflict, protected by our heroic men and women in arms, we have been unable to escape the karmic repercussions.

When not killed in action, those soldiers eventually come home, where they are left to sink or swim by a society that neglects their needs while insulating itself from the true realities of war. We treat war like a video game that, like a drone, can be controlled remotely, far from the damage that it inflicts. While many remain emotionally, morally, and politically detached from the ravages of war, military families and their friends are left to witness the torment of their loved ones, thousands of whom have been maimed physically, psychologically, and spiritually (http://gold-silver.us/blog/when-johnny-comes-marchin-home-covering-toxic-truth-ptsd).

When reality and rhetoric come face to face, the untold millions of prescriptions of sedatives, antidepressants (http://gold-silver.us/blog/better-zoloft-depression-rhodiola), and painkillers designed to pacify the American mind are no longer sufficient to suppress the clamor of the resulting cognitive dissonance. Something must inevitably give. It is an ironclad rule of the psyche that there is no free lunch; sooner or later, a price must be paid for self-deception. When it all begins to hit home, we react like entitled adolescents looking to scapegoat the nearest, most convenient target. Shocked by the events that have unfolded, we deny personal responsibility and demand instant accountability. How could this have happened? Heads must roll!

The reaction is exponentially worse when the trauma takes place in the "homeland" (this is one of those Orwellian terms that smacks of totalitarian culture, one that few Americans seem to object to). "Shock and awe" was merely the initial salvo of our prolonged and aggrieved response to 9-11. More than a decade later, we sit amidst the ruins of a decimated economy, perplexed and dissatisfied by the repercussions of our misguided efforts. Left in the wake of our quest for vengeance is an enormous gulf between the "one percent" and all the rest. This only compounds the vicious cycle as the desperation of those who can't pay their bills, have no health care, and have lost their homes increases as the rich get richer. It would be naïve not to expect fear and aggression on the part of those left behind by the rapacious corporatocracy.

With each new traumatic event, America's fight or flight response is reactivated and reinforced. It is the nature of PTSD. The civilian soldier reacts to the police siren as if he is taking enemy fire, unable for a brief moment to discern the difference between the two. A "patriot" with an arsenal of weapons is convinced that the mosque down the street is a sign of the "end of times." The twenty-four hour terror news cycle has changed many Americans' perception of reality. I've seen them in my medical office. Some are too afraid to fly anymore. Others are angry and harbor a number of irrational conspiracy theories that would never have occurred to them prior to 9-11. On both individual and collective levels, America's PTSD is very real. It has reached the point where it is beyond socio-political remediation. It has, in my opinion, become an urgent medical problem—one that is only compounded by the wholesale pharmaceutical anesthetization of unhappy minds (http://gold-silver.us/blog/has-drug-driven-medicine-become-form-human-sacrifice).

This brings us to the "chronic maintaining factor" that I alluded to earlier. That factor is suppression (4) (http://spiritsciencehealing.com/how-suppression-causes-chronic-illness/). Suppression is a poorly understood phenomenon mainly because it is a taboo subject in conventional scientific and medical circles. It is, however, of great interest to persons of a holistic mindset. Whereas acute fear is usually an episodic phenomenon, symptom suppression is an ongoing influence that both produces and maintains a great deal of chronic illness, especially psychiatric illness.

Allow me to explain. The conventional medical approach to illness is a simplistic one that blindly sets out to arrest or extinguish symptoms without regard for the longer-term consequences. We are encouraged, for example, to take painkillers (http://tv.greenmedinfo.com/dangers-painkillers-infographic/) for headaches, antihistamines to thwart allergy symptoms (http://gold-silver.us/blog/26-natural-alternatives-allergies), antipyretics to lower fevers, and anti-inflammatory medications to combat arthritis (http://gold-silver.us/disease/arthritis), even though such measures may ultimately diminish long-term health. As long as short-term symptomatic relief is achieved, physicians are able to insulate themselves from the medical fallout that the suppression of symptoms creates. And the general public usually follows suit, rarely realizing the connection between suppressive drugs and subsequent medical conditions that may arise. When new symptoms do occur, they are either downplayed as unavoidable side-effects or simply assumed to be unrelated problems that have no connection to prior medical conditions or prior medical treatments. Thus, they become nothing more than opportunities for further medical treatment. It's a great way of creating a revolving door of repeat customers.

From a holistic perspective, all of a person's symptoms, health problems, and medical history are understood from the outset to be inextricably connected, because they are, after all, happening to, or have happened to, the same individual. A symptom is not just a random occurrence; it has a purpose that we sometimes understand, like a fever generated by the immune system to combat a viral illness. Although we have limited knowledge of the true role that many symptoms play, they are all produced by a life force that acts in its best interests to maintain homeostasis and to restore health to the human organism.

The self-healing capacity of the mind-body (http://gold-silver.us/blog/heal-your-heart-and-reduce-your-risk-breast-cancer) far exceeds the limited abilities of conventional medical treatments to do the same. That is why most people recover, with or without treatment, from the vast majority of acute illnesses like colds, flus, other viral illnesses, coughs, cuts, bruises, headaches, and so on. Holistic medicine acknowledges this self-healing capacity and seeks to maximize its effectiveness, in lieu of symptom suppression. It endeavors to work in synchrony with the life force by methods that do not interfere with the natural healing process. Of course, sometimes suppressive measures are necessary, like when a person in an asthmatic crisis can't breathe. Thankfully, conventional medical treatment can open airways. However, it does not have the ability to heal a person's asthma. Its only options are to suppress it or maintain it in a manageable state on a prolonged basis.

Holistic medicine also recognizes a fundamental and obvious truth that conventional medicine purposely goes out of its way to ignore—and that is the powerful relationship that exists between mind and body. Any drug or surgical intervention aimed at the physical body, by definition, also impacts the mental-emotional plane by virtue of the fact that mind, body, and spirit constitute one seamless whole. To believe that this is not true is to embrace the mistaken metaphysical beliefs that define the materialist scientific worldview and, by extension, the conventional medical perspective.

In Part 2 of this installment, I will discuss in greater detail how the suppressive measures employed by conventional medicine have contributed to an explosion of mental illness in our rapidly deteriorating culture.
Part 2

mick silver
5th October 2015, 05:12 PM
Holistic theory posits that, when suppression takes place, the vital force simply takes the energy that went into the creation of the original symptoms and redirects that energy into the creation of new symptoms. Those new symptoms can appear the next day, the next month, or even a year later. The original symptoms represent the most efficient means of self-healing available to the life force. When suppressive measures deprive it of that choice, the life force must seek a less advantageous method of self-defense. The new, less advantageous symptoms are a reflection of the resulting greater vulnerability of the organism. As a result, the new symptoms often pose a more serious threat to the person than the originally suppressed symptoms.

When a child's diaper rash is forcibly suppressed with a steroid cream, it should surprise no one when the same child subsequently becomes irritable and develops an ear infection (http://gold-silver.us/blog/ear-infections-natural-approach). Have you ever known someone whose warts were frozen off with liquid nitrogen only to have multiple new warts erupt at a nearby location? How about the person whose cortisone shot brings great relief to his shoulder pain, only to have the pain manifest a month later as never-before-experienced pain in the opposite shoulder? Stories of this nature are legion but medicine manages to downplay their significance by defining them as new, unrelated problems that require new treatment. And so the vicious cycle continues.

It is critically important to understand that when suppressed symptoms are redirected deeper into the system, they often re-emerge as more threatening physical illness. What most patients and physicians don't realize is that they can alternately manifest as mental-emotional symptoms.

Therefore, since the primary strategy of mainstream medicine is symptom suppression, it unintentionally winds up being the biggest contributing factor to the increasing prevalence of mental illness. We are the most drug-dependent nation on the planet, and it is no coincidence that we have such frightening levels of psychiatric illness.

As a simple example, consider for a moment a child given ADHD drugs to make him compliant in the classroom, who subsequently experiences suicidal ideation as a so-called side effect. (5) (http://globalnews.ca/news/1912223/adhd-drugs-linked-to-suicidal-thoughts/) This is not so much a side effect as it is a suppressive effect. Although suppression is rarely acknowledged by mainstream medicine, it is a ubiquitous phenomenon.

Drugs used to control Parkinson's disease (http://gold-silver.us/disease/parkinsons-disease), for example, are known to cause a variety of mental-emotional problems including psychosis. When neurologic symptoms like tremors are suppressed by these drugs, the energy that caused them can be redirected deeper into the system where they manifest as psychiatric disturbances. Believe it or not, antibiotics (http://gold-silver.us/blog/honey-and-ginger-beat-antibiotics-inhibiting-superbugs), too, are capable of inducing a wide array of psychiatric symptoms including sleep disturbances, anxiety, depression, and even hallucinations. We rarely hear of this potentiality in spite of the millions of prescriptions dispensed annually to both children and adults.

This is the basis of the condition referred to as PANDAS (pediatric autoimmune neuropsychiatric disorders associated with streptococcal infections (http://gold-silver.us/disease/streptococcus-infections)). Even those in holistic circles are mistaken when they blame the streptococcal organism for the mood disturbances, vocal tics, and compulsive behaviors that suddenly appear in children who have taken antibiotics. What most don't realize is that when antibiotics suppress the infections that they are intended to target, the life force may be forced to compensate by displacing the illness onto the mental-emotional plane.

With each successive dose of symptom-suppressing drug taken, America unwittingly seals its fate. The life force is left with no other option but to manifest illness deeper on the mental-emotional plane. (6) (http://ddi.wayne.edu/ddmi_articles/psychiatric_effects_of_medications_2005.pdf) Our pill-popping proclivity and general intolerance for suffering leads inevitably to more suffering. This poorly understood principle of mind-body mechanics must not be underestimated. It is the source of a great deal of deep-seated mental-emotional dysfunction. Suppressive medical treatment is the primary maintaining factor for a whole spectrum of chronic mental health problems including depression, anxiety disorders (http://gold-silver.us/disease/anxiety-disorders), neuroses, obsessions, attention disorders, narcissistic tendencies, aggressive behavior, and even suicidal thinking.

Psychiatric medications are the worst offenders (http://gold-silver.us/event/beyond-medication-mental-health-holistic-healing) because when symptoms already on the mental-emotional plane are suppressed by these drugs, the consequences can be catastrophic. There is perhaps no more damning evidence than the number of mass shootings in the U.S. that have been perpetrated by individuals who had been taking psychiatric medications. (7) (http://www.ladailypost.com/content/brief-history-psychotropic-drugs-prescribed-mass-murderers)

The deeper the illness penetrates into the collective mind-body of the general public, the more we see signs of fight or flight. We are a terrorized and terrified nation with a hair-trigger temper that looks to vent its aggression on the nearest scapegoat. When there is no external enemy left to blame, we turn the destructive impulse on ourselves, thereby intensifying the descent into madness. As a consequence, America is more polarized than ever before. We divide ourselves into opposing camps on all issues; liberals and conservatives battle over gun rights, gay rights, civil rights, war and peace, science and religion, Wall Street and Main Street—as if there can be no middle ground. The rising tide of fear and hate is unmistakable.

Consumer culture—itself a reflection of the fickle, impatient, and immature condition of the American psyche—is convinced that it can buy and sell health in the form of pills. We have fallen for the deception that medical suppression is an acceptable substitute for genuine healing, and the repercussions have been devastating. We are a deeply sick society at war with itself.

There is a reason that America seems crazier than ever before—because it is. The "terror" that has been magnified in the mind of the average American serves to breed mistrust of others, intolerance for differences, and the projection of our personal, internal issues onto imaginary, external enemies. The underlying source of our collective craziness is a function of our fear-based perspective and the medical strategies that contribute to it and maintain it.

On the political front, the enemy takes the form of terrorists, the indigent, minorities, non-heterosexuals, non-Christians, and illegal "aliens." On the medical front, it manifests as a fear of contagion. Ebola, swine flu, bird flu, meningitis (http://gold-silver.us/article/glyphosphate-poisoning-resulting-aseptic-meningitis-has-been-reported), anthrax, Mad Cow disease, SARS, E. Coli, West Nile virus—the list is endless. Measles (http://gold-silver.us/blog/measles-transmitted-vaccinated-gov-researchers-confirm), once a relatively common immunological milestone, has suddenly become the scourge de jour. We quake in our shoes at the thought of these unwanted, external invaders that threaten our cozy lifestyles. A frightened populace is notoriously susceptible to suggestion, and there is no shortage of unsavory influences willing to exploit that fact. The annual flu scare is a perfect example of media exploitation by Medical Big Brother who has forged a Faustian bargain with corporate biotech, which, in turn, is more than willing to use the populace as scientific guinea pigs.

And so we meekly submit to heightened security measures, x-raying our bodies and checking our shoes at airports, tolerating surveillance of our digital footprints (http://tv.greenmedinfo.com/what-to-do-about-nsa-surveillance/), and casting our votes to bankrupt the nation in the name of homeland security. The fear factor is so great that we allow our children to be injected with an ever-expanding list of unproven vaccines (http://gold-silver.us/blog/roll-your-sleeves-folks-271-new-vaccines-big-pharma-s-pipeline), while we ignore mounting evidence that points to the exponentially rising levels of both acute and chronic disease that they are responsible for creating. One can only hope that we will come to realize that the true risks far outweigh the psychological benefit—a shallow and impotent semblance of safety and security.

The reactionary mindset of America is a by-product of a sick psyche that sees all things in black and white, that sees opposition where there could be cooperation, polarity where there could be complementarity. Even if all the imagined bogeymen, terrorist threats, and scary mutated germs were able to be subdued once and for all, the problem would not cease, because the illness remains. We are a hysteria-prone country, unwilling to take responsibility for ourselves, and more than willing to rely on short-term, superficial solutions. The problem is that suppression only creates the illusion of healing. In actuality, it leads to the magnification of the underlying causes of disease.

This destructive mix of cultural violence and medical suppression is compounded by a third critical factor, which makes it difficult to imagine how we can ever extricate ourselves from our downward spiral into psychic chaos. That factor is modern science itself, or at least that which passes for science. Contemporary science, it turns out, is subject to the same cultural distortions as all other issues. To those embroiled in the culture wars, science is either all right or all wrong. We have reached a point where you are either a science believer or a science denier, with no room for nuance in between. Our collective psychic split causes us to conceptualize most issues as a choice between polar opposites. Those who question the wisdom or safety of vaccines (http://gold-silver.us/blog/vaccine-safety-myth), for example, must therefore be anti-science. Although such a notion is patently absurd, it is used, nevertheless, by many to discredit those who do not agree with their views—as if we are no longer allowed to question the claims of science.

But the culture war between science and religion cuts both ways; it is a consequence of extremist beliefs, not just on the part of religion, but on both sides of the equation. Since we live in a scientific age, few stop to question the correctness of scientific beliefs. In earlier times, it was religious authority that censored new scientific ideas. Nowadays, we are witnessing the reverse. Our culture is so heavily influenced by scientific thought that we rarely stop to consider that our scientific perspective may serve as a form of bias that prevents us from attaining an impartial viewpoint.

mick silver
5th October 2015, 05:13 PM
Even though science, when properly conducted, has no business weighing in on issues of belief and values, it does so anyway. This type of extremist science—more accurately termed scientism (8) (http://gold-silver.us/blog/rise-scientific-fundamentalism)—has had the net effect of eroding our moral judgment, our spiritual intuition, and our confidence in religious wisdom that has accumulated since the dawn of time. Science, which claims to be value neutral, presumes to tell us what our values should be. Furthermore, science deliberately sets out to exclude the subjective on the grounds that it is not trustworthy, in essence making the claim that nothing but the facts as defined by science can be trusted. In other words, scientism teaches us not to trust our own experience (http://blog/rise-scientific-fundamentalism).

Take away basic values, moral judgment, and common sense based on human experience, add to that the relentless violence and systematic medical suppression that we inflict upon ourselves, and the result is the lost soul that is the American psyche. When we employ scientific tunnel vision without the emotional maturity and spiritual wisdom that comes from a balanced perspective, it makes righting the ship a truly difficult task.

On the bright side, there is a discernable and comprehensible explanation for this disturbing state of affairs. If we can understand the root causes, there is the possibility that it can be remedied. Despite the admittedly pessimistic tone of this article, I do believe that it is not too late to reverse the trend, but it will require a revolution in thinking. It will involve a turning away from violence as a way of life, toward healthier methods of conflict resolution. It will involve self-education regarding the nature of symptom suppression and its consequences, and the assimilation of more holistic approaches to health that can actually lead to long-term healing.

Society must become cognizant of the very real differences between genuine science that is aware of its limitations and respectful of legitimate boundaries, and the malignant scourge of scientism, which is an ideological form of science with imperialist designs on sole ownership of the truth. Scientism goes out of its way to discredit new ideas that don't conform to its narrow worldview. The hallmark of scientism is that it has no tolerance for debate and, like any fundamentalist religion, always believes that is in the right, simply by virtue of the fact that it claims to be science. This, of course, is ludicrous.

The cultural sickness that pits neighbor against neighbor is very real, and it is on the rise. The solution is simple, but its implementation is complex. By acknowledging the excessive violence that pollutes society and finding ways to curtail it, by adopting non-suppressive methods of healing, and by understanding the differences between reasonable science and unreasonable scientism, we can take concrete steps to heal the sick American psyche.
References:
(1) http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/07/24/there-have-been-204-mass-shootings-and-204-days-in-2015-so-far/
(2) http://www.greenmedinfo.com/disease/post-traumatic-stress-disorders-ptsd (http://gold-silver.us/disease/post-traumatic-stress-disorders-ptsd)
(3) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-malerba/homeopathy-ptsd_b_1649398.html
(4) http://spiritsciencehealing.com/how-suppression-causes-chronic-illness/
(5) http://globalnews.ca/news/1912223/adhd-drugs-linked-to-suicidal-thoughts/
(6) http://ddi.wayne.edu/ddmi_articles/psychiatric_effects_of_medications_2005.pdf
(7) http://www.ladailypost.com/content/brief-history-psychotropic-drugs-prescribed-mass-murderers
(8) http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/rise-scientific-fundamentalism (http://gold-silver.us/blog/rise-scientific-fundamentalism)

mick silver
6th October 2015, 09:53 AM
A Tale of Two Killings
By Philippe Gastonne - October 06, 2015



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At least 10 people were killed and nine others were wounded when a gunman who demanded to know his victims' religions opened fire Thursday on a campus in southwest Oregon, witnesses and authorities said.
The gunman was killed in a firefight with Douglas County sheriff's deputies at Umpqua Community College, Sheriff John Hanlin said. Multiple law enforcement sources identified him to NBC News as Chris Harper Mercer, 26, but the sheriff wouldn't confirm that identity, saying he didn't want to "glorify" the man's actions.
"You will never hear us mention his name," Hanlin said Thursday night, because "he in no way deserves it." – NBC News (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/oregon-college-shooting/oregon-shooting-umpqua-community-college-gunman-talked-religion-n437051), Oct. 2, 2015
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At least 19 people were killed when a hospital run by Doctors Without Borders in Kunduz [Afghanistan] was badly damaged early Saturday after being hit by what appears to have been an American airstrike, sparking international outrage.
The United States military, in a statement, confirmed an airstrike at 2:15 a.m., saying that it had been targeting individuals "who were threatening the force" and that "there may have been collateral damage to a nearby medical facility." – New York Times (http://nyti.ms/1jFGoiY), Oct. 3, 2015
If the local sheriff had his way, none of us would know that Chris Harper Mercer was the one who killed nine people and then himself at an Oregon community college. The sheriff thinks putting the name in print or saying it aloud somehow glorifies Mercer's action.
Maybe in the twisted minds of those who go on shooting sprees, the thought of being infamous is somehow motivational. Would removing the possibility help? There is no way to know for sure.
Meanwhile on the other side of the world, even more people died when U.S. forces apparently bombed a Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) hospital in Afghanistan.
The Oregon sheriff will likely get his wish in this case. In all likelihood, we will never know the name of the person or persons who targeted the hospital. Whether it was a mistake or intentional will not matter; military leaders will move swiftly to minimize public embarrassment or blame. We've seen it before in much less serious circumstances (http://www.dailybell.com/news-analysis/36564/Generals-Manipulate-Media-Media-Complies/).
Yet one identifiable individual most certainly shares responsibility for the MSF deaths. His name is Barack Obama. On his orders, American forces are still in Afghanistan 14 years after their original alleged enemy fled elsewhere.
President Obama quickly seized on the Oregon shooting to demand additional gun control laws. He is missing a much easier reform.
The goal is to save as many lives as possible, as quickly as possible, right?
Obama can do this without fighting the Republicans or the NRA. All he has to do is stop bombing people. He needs no one's permission and he could issue the order today.
New gun controls on civilians might or might not stop the killings at home. Ending our military adventures abroad would certainly save many lives, both American and foreign.
This simple idea is long overdue, Mr. President. Start there if you want to "do something" about senseless violence.

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PatColo
6th October 2015, 08:54 PM
I see it's been speculated above already, but my guess is Sheriff Hanlin was indeed "targeted" in this latest OR shooting hoax, not only for his pro 2nd Amendment activism; but he also had a Sandy Hoax "conspiracy docu" at his FB page as well as some posts questioning SH vis-a-vis gun rights.

Top agenda of this and all the other shooting hoaxes remains the gun grab agenda; but this OR hoax was concocted in Hanlin's county with "sending Hanlin a message"; taking him down a notch, as a secondary agenda.

Is it known whether or not Hanlin is a freemason? If he's not, I gather he'd be in a minority of top law enforcement officials in the US. This could be a "Brotherhood of the Bell (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?71072-The-Brotherhood-of-the-Bell-(1970)-re-secret-societies-full-movie)" scenario? Regardless, with Hanlin's plainly being "shooting-hoax-as-gun-grab-agenda-tool wise", AND a man of high moral integrity; I'd love to see him balk at the satanists bullying him into line, and go public with his honest views regarding the whole game afoot. Not just an FB post or two which almost no one sees and he can redact at will; but an on-camera interview spilling the beans.

Numerous shows in my routine podcast repertoire have spent a portion of the show on the OR event. These two were particularly good.

Fist is 2h 26m; but the latter ~half is more general discussion than it is OR-hoax focused:



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2nd show here is around 3 hours but only the first 1h 10m is focused on the OR hoax:


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TODAY; Oregon Shooting; Election 2016; SnowJob!; F- Germany; Migrants!; Ministry of Truth; Agenda 2030; PR; CYBER!; NA-Tech News; Earon; Eugenics; Big Pharma; Mac & Cheese; SJW #gamergate, and all your usual listening whilst garden Sheds fall out of the sky onto your head favourites!

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singular_me
7th October 2015, 02:32 AM
and not so surprisingly ???
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Yet another psych drug shooter: Oregon gunman Christopher Mercer was taking five types of medication, likely vaccine-damaged with autism spectrum disorder
7th October 2015
http://www.naturalnews.com/051453_Christopher_Mercer_psychiatric_medications_ autism_spectrum_disorder.html