US should attempt to disarm Russians in Syria: Brzezinski

[mick silver]

US should attempt to disarm Russians in Syria: Brzezinski

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Tue Oct 6, 2015 1:41PM


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Former US national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski


















US foreign policy expert Zbigniew Brzezinski says the United States should retaliate if Russia does not stop bombing its assets in Syria.
Brzezinski, the national security adviser for former President Jimmy Carter, advised President Barack Obama to attempt to disarm the Russians if they keep attacking the CIA-trained militants in Syria.
"The Russian naval and air presences in Syria are vulnerable, isolated geographically from their homeland," Brzezinski wrote in an article (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/c1ec2488-6aa8-11e5-8171-ba1968cf791a.html#axzz3nnLb8jcY)published by the Financial Times on Sunday. "They could be 'disarmed' if they persist in provoking the US."
"But, better still, Russia might be persuaded to act with the US in seeking a wider accommodation to a regional problem that transcends the interests of a single state," he added.
A new US intelligence assessment has found Russia has targeted militant groups backed by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) in Syria.
The assessment, shared by commanders on the ground, has led American officials to conclude that Russian warplanes have intentionally struck CIA-backed militants in a string of attacks running for days, the Wall Street Journal reported.
Moscow's apparent decision to strike CIA’s militants "at best" reflects "Russian military incompetence," and worst, "evidence of a dangerous desire to highlight American political impotence," wrote Brzezinski.
He added that if Moscow continues to target these people, then Washington should retaliate against Russians.
"In these rapidly unfolding circumstances the US has only one real option if it is to protect its wider stakes in the region: to convey to Moscow the demand that it cease and desist from military actions that directly affect American assets," he said.
Obama administration officials are debating how the United States can come to the aid of its proxy forces on the ground without risking a broader conflict, according to the Wall Street Journal.
US officials said Russia’s moves in Syria posed a direct challenge to the Obama administration’s foreign policy on the Middle East.
Moscow’s commitment to the Syrian government runs counter to current US policy, which calls for the ouster of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.
Russia has been beefing up its military presence in neighboring Syria, deploying warplanes, tanks and personnel to an airfield in the western port city of Latakia. It launched a coordinated air campaign to fight Daesh (ISIL) and other terrorists.
Senior Russian officials have said the current campaign is limited to airstrikes, but have not ruled out “volunteers” on the ground.
Syria has been gripped by a foreign-backed militancy since March 2011 aimed at toppling the Assad government. The violence has claimed the lives of more than 250,000 people so far.
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/10/06/432230/US-Syria-Russians-Brzezinski

[Neuro]

If that isn't the face of an evil man... I don't think evil exist!

[Jerrylynnb]

What is wrong with letting the Syrian populace chose their own government by elections? How could that possible interfere with US policy, unless, the US policy runs counter to freedom for Syrians.

Didn't Syrian voters already elect Assad in a free and open election? What is wrong with these bunglers and barbarians in the US government? How would they like it if a foreign government disapproved of the freely elected government of the US and sponsored, with arms and logistical support, violent revolutionary groups (operating on our own soil) whose goal is the toppling our own government via massive bloodshed and destruction? What's good for the goose is good for the gander - no?

Doesn't this argument (for universal suffrage, INCLUDING Syrians) get voiced in the public arena? Or am I finally going senile and just can't think straight?

Someone who understands and can explain the thinking of the US government in this matter, please advise me, and others wondering the same thing.

[Neuro]

What is wrong with letting the Syrian populace chose their own government by elections? How could that possible interfere with US policy, unless, the US policy runs counter to freedom for Syrians.

Didn't Syrian voters already elect Assad in a free and open election? What is wrong with these bunglers and barbarians in the US government? How would they like it if a foreign government disapproved of the freely elected government of the US and sponsored, with arms and logistical support, violent revolutionary groups (operating on our own soil) whose goal is the toppling our own government via massive bloodshed and destruction? What's good for the goose is good for the gander - no?

Doesn't this argument (for universal suffrage, INCLUDING Syrians) get voiced in the public arena? Or am I finally going senile and just can't think straight?

Someone who understands and can explain the thinking of the US government in this matter, please advise me, and others wondering the same thing.
I think the main interest of the US government is to obey Israel, especially in the Middle East, there really is no other ideology or pragmatic concerns re Syria...

[Glass]

the lives of more than 250,000 people so far

He. Don't. Care.

The toll is small potatoes compared to other regime change successes. So far. No concern that he would ever be held to account and why would he be anyway. Did nothing wrong. To him those people don't exist because he doesn't face them. They are nothing. So long as there is no retaliation he'll keep going.

The recent political language around Syria has taken on a very bizarre edge. It is the most in your face, black is white, up is down talk I' think I've ever seen. If people can't pick up on it when it's this intense..... Personally I think they are going to go head to head. I think we are witnessing the start of the Eurasian Front of the Greatest War. But who knows. It might only persist until the lands of greater israel is secured. They might not want this bubbling away on their door step for decades or centuries +.

[mick silver]

Saudi clerics urge support for war against Syria, Iran, Russia ...dam it look like the stage is being set for a world war ...
Saudi clerics urge support for war against Syria, Iran, Russia

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Mon Oct 5, 2015 11:47PM


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Foreign-backed militants patrol in the Syrian city of Idlib on March 29, 2015. (AFP photo)


















Dozens of Saudi clerics have called for supporting the war against the government of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad as well as Iran and Russia, which are backing Syria in its fight against terrorism.
"Give all moral, material, political and military" support to the war against the Syrian government and its Iranian and Russian backers, 53 Saudi clerics said in a statement released on Monday, Reuters reported.
The clerics also referred to the terrorists committing crimes against humanity in Syria as the "holy warriors" who are "defending" the Arab country, and called for trusting them "because if they are defeated... it will be the turn of one Sunni country after another."
The statement comes as Iraq, Iran, Syria and Russia have formed an intelligence-sharing center in the Iraqi capital in their fight against the Takfiri terrorists wreaking havoc mainly in Syria and Iraq.
Since September 30, Russia has been conducting airstrikes against the positions of the terrorists across Syria upon a request from the Damascus government.
http://217.218.67.233//photo/20151005/26903693-b05e-42e1-9a75-c13a1461608f.jpgA Russian Sukhoi-34 fighter JetThe Saudi clerics’ letter used sectarian terms against the regional quadripartite coalition members and blamed the West for not providing the Takfiri militants in Syria with anti-aircraft weapons.
“The Western-Russian coalition with the Safavids and the Nusairis are making a real war against the Sunni people and their countries,” the statement read, using the terms Safavids and the Nusairis in the same way as the Daesh Takfiri group does in referring to Iranians and Alawis respectively.
The statement further called Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Qatar as the countries that have explicitly declared they will stand by and support the Syrian people.
It also called on the Arab and Islamic countries to recall their ambassadors from Iran and Russia.
Assad said on Sunday that the coalition of Iran, Russia, Syria and Iraq must succeed or the entire region will be destroyed.
“This coalition must succeed; otherwise we will see the destruction of the entire [Middle East] region,” Assad said in an interview with the Islamic Republic of Iran News Network, expressing optimism that the coalition “will achieve outstanding practical results” in their joint military, security and intelligence-sharing cooperation.
Saudi Arabia along with Turkey and some other regional states are the supporters of terrorist in Syria.
The foreign-sponsored conflict in Syria, which flared in March 2011, has claimed the lives of more than 250,000 people and left over one million injured.

[mick silver]

The ISIL terrorists, who were initially trained by the CIA in Jordan in 2012 to destabilize the Syrian government, have beheaded three American, two British and two Japanese hostages in recent months. The videos of their beheadings were posted online
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/02/22/398684/US-allies-support-ISIL-but-oppose-Iran

[mick silver]

Russian navy warships may blockade Syria coast: Official
Russian navy warships may blockade Syria coast: Official

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Russia may use its naval forces to establish a blockade along the Syrian coastline to facilitate the delivery of armaments into Syrian territory, a senior parliamentary official says.
Vladimir Komoyedov, who heads the Defense Committee of Russia’s State Duma (lower house of parliament), said the vessels of the Russian Navy’s Black Sea Fleet would be used, during the potential mission, to bring in weaponry, Russia’s Ria Novosti news agency reported.

“Regarding the large-scale use of the Black Sea Fleet in this operation, I don’t think it will happen, but in terms of a coastal blockade, I think that it’s quite [possible],” he said, adding, “The delivery of artillery strikes hasn’t been excluded; the ships are ready for this, but there is no point in it for now. The terrorists are in deep, where the artillery cannot reach.”
Russia is currently running a naval facility in the western Syrian province of Tartus, which provides Moscow with access to the Mediterranean Sea. Four Russian warships, including a missile cruiser and a destroyer, are currently deployed in the eastern Mediterranean.
‘Russian volunteers’
Interfax news agency, meanwhile, quoted the Russian official as announcing that a contingent of Russian forces would “surely” join the Syrian military in the future in its fight against terrorist groups.
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“Surely, a unit of Russian volunteers, combatants, will appear in the ranks of the Syrian army,” he said.
Later, however, a Reuters report quoted Komoyedov as saying that Russia was blocking any attempts by its citizens to fight on either side to the Syrian conflict.
‘Russia may consider Iraq strikes’
On Tuesday, RIA Novosti cited Valentina Matviyenko, the head of Russia’s upper chamber of parliament, as saying that the country would consider extending its airstrikes into Iraq if asked to do so by Baghdad.
Matviyenko, however, said Russia has not received such a request from the Iraqi government so far.
Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi told France 24 television on October 1 that Baghdad would welcome any such military measures by Moscow on its soil, adding that his country was receiving information from both Syria and Russia on the Daesh terror group.
The developments come more than a week after Moscow began an aerial military campaign against the Daesh Takfiri militants and other terrorist groups in Syria upon a request from the Damascus government.
Russian President Vladimir Putin said one of the key objectives of Moscow’s air campaign in Syria is to preserve the Arab country’s territorial integrity.
Russian raids have drawn criticism from Western governments and their allies in the Middle East, which have been supporting the militants operating in the region.
Some members of a US-led coalition have been pounding purported Daesh positions inside Syria without any authorization from Damascus or a United Nations mandate since last September. The campaign has so far failed to dislodge the group.

‘Right to defend allies, not US’s exclusive right’
Speaking to Press TV’s website, Don DeBar, a political commentator and radio host, said the Syrian government’s authorization to Russia legitimizes the Russian military strikes in Syria.
“Russia, of course, has the absolute right to conduct whatever military operations in Syria and within Syrian territorial waters that the Syrian government authorizes,” he said, adding that, “And if the Syrian government asks Russia to blockade any arms that are coming into the country, into the hands of terrorists or other non-state actors, then that is completely and entirely legal under the international law.”
“And if Russia wants to defend its own right to bring weapons to the Syrian government under the contracts between the Syrian government and Russia or Russian firms, they are also entirely within their right to do that,” DeBar added.
It is entirely Russia’s right to support a government that it has agreements with just like the United States does, he said.

[BrewTech]

So can it be called WW3 yet?

[ShortJohnSilver]

He seems such a pleasant old man!

[midnight rambler]

So can it be called WW3 yet?

WW3* ended with the fall of the Soviet Union. We're talkin' WW4 now.

*don't be conned into thinking the Cold War was not a world war, since it was global in scope

[Glass]

Brzezinski’s comment exposes US assets in Syria: Scholar

Former US national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski’s assertion that Washington should retaliate against Moscow for Russian airstrikes against US assets in Syria is a “stunning admission” of the role America has played in the Syrian crisis, an American scholar in Wisconsin says.



Dr. Kevin Barrett, a founding member of the Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance, made the remarks in a phone interview with Press TV on Tuesday while commenting on Brzezinski’s latest article about Russia in the Financial Times.


Brzezinski advised President Barack Obama to attempt to disarm the Russians if they keep attacking the CIA-trained militants in Syria.
"The Russian naval and air presences in Syria are vulnerable, isolated geographically from their homeland," Brzezinski wrote on Sunday. "They could be 'disarmed' if they persist in provoking the US."


Dr. Barrett said that it is “a stunning admission from a senior high-level policy adviser here in the US that the US in fact using al-Qaeda, or perhaps the Islamic State [the Daesh/ISIL terrorist group] as well, as assets.”


“This is not something that is normally admitted by officials from Washington, DC, that is that al-Qaeda in Syria, the al-Nusra Front, is actually a US ally,” he added.
Brzezinski wrote that Moscow's apparent decision to strike CIA’s militants "at best" reflects "Russian military incompetence," and worst, "evidence of a dangerous desire to highlight American political impotence.” He added that if Moscow continues to target these people, then Washington should retaliate against Russians.


Commenting to Press TV, Dr. Barrett said that “the American people will be very interested to hear that just 14 years after the attacks of September 11th, 2001, which were officially blamed on al-Qaeda - which even then was called by some people al-CIA-duh, having had relationships with the US in the Afghan jihad against the Soviet Union - that this supposedly demonized enemy group that we were told was responsible for killing 3,000 Americans on September 11th, 2001 is now our ally in Syria, and we should to go war with Russia and risk a nuclear war that could end life on the planet in order to punish Russia for fighting against al-Qaeda.”
“It’s kind of mind-boggling that anyone could even imagine the US retaliating against Russia for Russia’s attacks on al-Qaeda, but that’s precisely what Brzezinski said,” he stated.


“And Brzezinski, for better of course, is actually considered one of the more sensible and level-headed people in Washington, DC which tells you something about other people around him, the neoconservatives who are much crazier than even he is,” said Dr. Barrett, the author of Questioning the War on Terror.



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