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mick silver
26th October 2015, 10:35 AM
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Paris (AFP) - Sausages, ham and other processed meats cause bowel cancer, and red meat "probably" does too, a UN agency warned Monday, in a potentially heavy blow for the fast-growing livestock industry.



A review of 800 studies from around the world found "sufficient evidence in humans that the consumption of processed meat causes colorectal cancer," said the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC).
The finding, it added, supports "recommendations to limit intake of meat" -- particularly in processed forms.
The category includes meat that has been salted, cured, fermented or smoked -- hot dogs, sausages, corned beef, dried meat like beef jerky or South African biltong, canned meat or meat-based sauces.
For every 50 grammes (1.8 ounces) of meat eaten on a daily basis, the population-wide risk of developing colon cancer was 18 percent higher, said the agency.
This meant enlarging the group of people likely to develop bowel cancer in their lifetime from six to seven out of every 100 who eat a three-rasher bacon sandwich every single day, explained statistician David Spiegelhalter of Cambridge University, who was not involved in the study.
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The IARC agreed the cancer risk was statistically "small", but "increases with the amount of meat consumed."
For unprocessed red meat -- beef, veal, pork, lamb, mutton, horse or goat, the review found "strong" evidence of a link, but not convincing enough to place it in the group of confirmed cancer-causing agents which includes tobacco smoke, asbestos, and now also salami.
The agency cited research attributing about 34,000 cancer deaths per year worldwide to diets high in processed meat.
This was dwarfed by the estimated one million cancer deaths attributed to tobacco smoking, 600,000 to alcohol use, and more than 200,000 to air pollution every year, said the agency.
The IARC said its data did "not permit" the determination of a safe meat quota.
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- 'Tortured data' -
"It is not yet fully understood" how cancer risk was increased, the agency added -- speculating about the potential role of chemicals that form during meat processing or cooking.
Meat producers slammed the report, as independent experts urged caution in interpreting the numbers.
The North American Meat Institute (NAMI) said the IARC "tortured the data to ensure a specific outcome".
NAMI vice president Betsy Booren pointed to the high consumption of processed meats like salami and ham as part of the Mediterranean diet, yet "people in countries where the Mediterranean diet is followed, like Spain, Italy and France, have some of the longest lifespans in the world and excellent health."
British nutrition expert Elisabeth Lund said: "Very few people in Europe eat sufficient meat to fall into the high meat consumption category," and stressed it remained a crucial source of iron and zinc.
Ian Johnson, a Britain-based nutrition researcher, added that "there is little or no evidence that vegetarians in the UK have a lower risk of bowel cancer than meat-eaters."
The IARC's cancer warning is the latest on a long list of troubles for the meat industry: from salmonella and "mad cow" scares, to dietary fat blamed for disease-causing high cholesterol and livestock methane emissions contributing to global warming.
"How many more health scares must we endure before people realise that animal protein is not good for us?" asked Jasmijn de Boo of The Vegan Society, a group that advocates against human use of animal proteins.
According to another UN agency, the Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO), meat consumption has doubled since 1980 in developing countries, as populations and income expand, while remaining static in the rich world.
By 2050, world meat production is projected to double, says the FAO website.
The report of the IARC, based in Lyon, France, was compiled by 22 experts from 10 countries.


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Shami-Amourae
26th October 2015, 10:37 AM
You can easily buy uncured and "organic" bacon without preservatives.

It just costs a lot more since it has less in it.

:rolleyes:

ximmy
26th October 2015, 10:40 AM
we're all going to die anyway ... eat away!

StreetsOfGold
26th October 2015, 10:50 AM
Probably? They can't say for CERTAIN??!
tut tut

Here's an absolute CERTAINTY!!

You WILL die......and face judgment!

Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

7th trump
26th October 2015, 10:53 AM
The culprit is pork....not meat in general.
Pork causes your immune system to fail and wreaks havoc on your organs because it has toxins your body cant handle.

Your creator says its best for your health not to eat pork or any split hooved animal that doesn't chew its cud.
I haven't eaten pork in years and don't have a doctor either, rarely sick....I'm almost 48 years of age and in better health and shape than many 20 year olds.

Go ahead and eat it, but when you get older your system begins to fail and then you are on meds for years and pain....but go ahead and eat it if you like. You pass on your genes to your kids who will have difficulties......just look around at all the health problems around you.
Eating pork is equivalent to smoking and drinking while pregnant are about the same as far as I'm concerned.

Pork is not healthy at all for you.

ximmy
26th October 2015, 11:08 AM
The culprit is pork....not meat in general.
Pork causes your immune system to fail and wreaks havoc on your organs because it has toxins your body cant handle.

Your creator says its best for your health not to eat pork or any split hooved animal that doesn't chew its cud.
I haven't eaten pork in years and don't have a doctor either, rarely sick....I'm almost 48 years of age and in better health and shape than many 20 year olds.

Go ahead and eat it, but when you get older your system begins to fail and then you are on meds for years and pain....but go ahead and eat it if you like. You pass on your genes to your kids who will have difficulties......just look around at all the health problems around you.
Eating pork is equivalent to smoking and drinking while pregnant are about the same as far as I'm concerned.

Pork is not healthy at all for you.

There it is. Your GSUS legalist, pro Old Testament, 10 commandments are in effect. Thinks of himself as a christian. Waiting for the antichrist to show up so he can follow the re-institution of the Mosaic law, and go make a pilgrimage to Jerusalem.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?85545-quot-Mommy-Am-I-Gonna-Die-quot-Cop-Aims-For-Dog-Shoots-4-Year-Old&p=795559&viewfull=1#post795559


Remember what you are dealing with when 7th trump says anything.

He is a Legalistic statist christian. He believes god has ordained the state powers whether good or bad and he will kill for the state.

This is why he will follow the anti-christ, The anti-christ will come and reinstate the mosaic law as he rules the state.

He will quote scriptures, like the one below, to justify his calling and 7th trump will gladly take the mark on his forehead or hand.

These commandments that I give you today are to be on your hearts..... Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads. (Deut. 6:6-8)

Most christians will also do this, as will pretty much all Mormons, JW's, Muslims, Jews, any legalistic cults. They love outward religion.

The christians who will see the truth will understand they do good by following the conscience powered by the holy spirit. Not by following religious laws.

There is no mercy or grace in 7th trumps religious views, that is why he speak the way he does.

Shami-Amourae
26th October 2015, 11:09 AM
The culprit is pork....not meat in general.
Pork causes your immune system to fail and wreaks havoc on your organs because it has toxins your body cant handle.

Your creator says its best for your health not to eat pork or any split hooved animal that doesn't chew its cud.
I haven't eaten pork in years and don't have a doctor either, rarely sick....I'm almost 48 years of age and in better health and shape than many 20 year olds.

Go ahead and eat it, but when you get older your system begins to fail and then you are on meds for years and pain....but go ahead and eat it if you like. You pass on your genes to your kids who will have difficulties......just look around at all the health problems around you.
Eating pork is equivalent to smoking and drinking while pregnant are about the same as far as I'm concerned.

Pork is not healthy at all for you.

Do you have any scientific literature to back this up?

Muh Bible doesn't count.

I'm pretty sure the issue is the curing agents, not the meat itself.

singular_me
26th October 2015, 01:06 PM
this report may be correct in the sense that most people consume bad meat quality (non organic) but also eat way too much of it (organic or not). My guess is that up to 2lbs per week of organic meat doesnt cause any harm. Especially cooked meat stays at least 48H in the digestive transit and it is what causes the problem. Hence the big plus to eat organic raw meat, it is digested in 6-9 hours from beginning til the end (same fast digestion with other foods)

I very rarely eat pork but generally raw foodists eat it as long as it is organic.

it is all about balance and quality. IMHO.

Neuro
26th October 2015, 01:13 PM
I'm pretty sure the issue is the curing agents, not the meat itself.
That's pretty much what scientific literature is telling us...

7th trump
26th October 2015, 01:15 PM
Do you have any scientific literature to back this up?

Muh Bible doesn't count.

I'm pretty sure the issue is the curing agents, not the meat itself.

http://draxe.com/why-you-should-avoid-pork/

I could post more by why....none of you fools will read or take heed to any logical or intelligent advice anyway.

monty
26th October 2015, 01:20 PM
The culprit is pork....not meat in general. Pork causes your immune system to fail and wreaks havoc on your organs because it has toxins your body cant handle. Your creator says its best for your health not to eat pork or any split hooved animal that doesn't chew its cud. I haven't eaten pork in years and don't have a doctor either, rarely sick....I'm almost 48 years of age and in better health and shape than many 20 year olds. Go ahead and eat it, but when you get older your system begins to fail and then you are on meds for years and pain....but go ahead and eat it if you like. You pass on your genes to your kids who will have difficulties......just look around at all the health problems around you. Eating pork is equivalent to smoking and drinking while pregnant are about the same as far as I'm concerned. Pork is not healthy at all for you.

I am 73, I have eaten bacon every morning of my life as long as I can remember. I don't have a doctor, am rarely sick and am in better health and shape than most 48 year olds. I also eat pork chops, roast pork and ham occasionally.

Shami-Amourae
26th October 2015, 01:29 PM
http://draxe.com/why-you-should-avoid-pork/

I could post more by why....none of you fools will read or take heed to any logical or intelligent advice anyway.


I'm reading it.

Dr. Axe is fairly legit so that's a good link.

milehi
26th October 2015, 01:36 PM
we're all going to die anyway ... eat away!

I'm making jambalaya for dinner tonight with spice Italian sausage.

Shami-Amourae
26th October 2015, 01:48 PM
There are some fairly good points in Dr. Axe's article, but in a control environment like a farm there should be no problem with pork.

Dr. Axe spends a long time harping about Trichinellosis, which basically has been wiped in the past century thanks to sanitation and modern farming and butchering practices. I know a lot about this since of my background in the culinary field. I remember we studied a full day on the history of pork and how it went from unsafe to safe.

You used to have to cook pork all the way though, now you can cook it to medium (pink) since it's so safe now.


I'd be more worried eating fish, than pig.

To sum things up, pork used to be unsafe, but is now safe. Eat as much pork as you like, but pay attention to stuff like ham and bacon which is processed. Look for uncured versions of these and read the labels so they don't have any nitrates or other curing agents. I recently started making my own pork sausage. It's very yummy.

Shami-Amourae
27th October 2015, 08:51 PM
Apparently Obama is pushing this since Muh Muslims:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNRGqThwlcc

skidmark
28th October 2015, 08:05 AM
Funny how they don't mention GMO foods and all the other non-gmo crops that are sprayed with round-up in order to quickly dessicate them for harvest.

ximmy
28th October 2015, 10:20 AM
Funny how they don't mention GMO foods and all the other non-gmo crops that are sprayed with round-up in order to quickly dessicate them for harvest.

Obviously approved by agenda 21 adherents. The environmental sustainability hoax. Keep people in cities, vegans good, homos good, atheism good, animals and trees sacred, etc.

hoarder
28th October 2015, 10:45 AM
Funny how they don't mention GMO foods and all the other non-gmo crops that are sprayed with round-up in order to quickly dessicate them for harvest.Your sense of omission is impeccable.