The definition of sin

[Hitch]

A pretty good article that answered a few questions for me, personally. The definition of a sin. My question, is it possible that love itself could be a sin? I don't think that question has an answer though.

Good article. Any thoughts on it are welcome, there's folks on this site that we all respect their take on religion.

http://www.allaboutgod.com/definition-of-sin.htm

[Dogman]

That is a Pandora box question here , seeing that several religions cleave to the same god.

The golden rule is a good one to follow, the ten commandments are a another post it note on what not to do and do.

Hell this place is full of like minded types along with semi like minded that I think would love to shoot each other, because they can not agree with each other over many many things.

(In a metaphorical way and sense..)

Hopefully!

;D

Hand grenade

[Hitch]

So, how does that exactly work for some of us that "fall through the cracks" of religion?

I'm sure if I went to a priest, they wouldn't understand. I'd be living in sin. Yet, I don't feel like I am. If you are not harming anyone, how can it be a sin? Again, can love itself be a sin?

[Dogman]

So, how does that exactly work for some of us that "fall through the cracks" of religion?

I'm sure if I went to a priest, they wouldn't understand. I'd be living in sin. Yet, I don't feel like I am. If you are not harming anyone, how can it be a sin? Again, can love itself be a sin? Answer your dam phone for one good line of thought, tho I refuse to wear my keyboard out on this thread, my post above stated my thoughts.

[Glass]

Sin is to be indebted to someone else. That's what it does and always has meant.

[Dogman]

Sin is to be indebted to someone else. That's what it does and always has meant. Total bullshit and you know it..

There is right and wrong on many levels.

And the first level is moral.

;D

[Glass]

nope. to sin is to be in debt.

[Hitch]

Answer your dam phone for one good line of thought, tho I refuse to wear my keyboard out on this thread, my post above stated my thoughts.

Sorry Dogman, just don't feel like talking about it. Please don't take it personal.

I've been a Catholic my whole life. I try to be a good person, best I can, but I don't think the Church would approve of my situation. That's the best I can say. I'm not harming anyone, but it's complicated.

[Dogman]

nope. to sin is to be in debt. And to be in debt is something that us poor people do to get anything and hope the debt can be payed off, within our lifetimes.

[Dogman]

Sorry Dogman, just don't feel like talking about it. Please don't take it personal.

I've been a Catholic my whole life. I try to be a good person, best I can, but I don't think the Church would approve of my situation. That's the best I can say. I'm not harming anyone, but it's complicated. Have nothing against catholics (people) in general, but that church I do and its history.

Big time !

[Glass]

We could also try "To miss the mark" is to sin. So be absent in our thoughts while doing something. To be without thought? Does this extend to: Be without thought towards others?

According to T' Internet and some random page I came across. The original hebrew word for "sin" has been wrongly translated.

The original word sin means - to miss.
It doesn’t mean to commit something wrong; it simply means to miss, to be absent.
The Hebrew root for the word sin, means to miss.
That exists in a few English words: misconduct, misbehavior.
To miss means not to be there, doing something without being present there — this is the only sin. And the only virtue: while you are doing something you are fully alert — what Gurdjieff calls selfremembering, what Buddha calls being rightly mindful, what Krishnamurti calls awareness, what Kabir has called SURATI. To be there! — that’s all that is needed, nothing more. You need not change anything, and even if you try to change you cannot"



Not sure I'm 100% with that, but it does sound like the kind of fudging of meanings you'd expect from some people. But it could be correct. I've long held the personal view that the word Sin does not mean literally what we take it to mean, however it does probably lead to the things we take it to mean, but not directly.

hmmmm complicated concept for me to bring forth from the brain into words.

[Hitch]

We could also try "To miss the mark" is to sin. So be absent in our thoughts while doing something. To be without thought? Does this extend to: Be without thought towards others?

I tend to think of sins as being intentional, knowing you are doing something wrong, yet doing it anyway. As people we do this, everyone of us. Being without thought towards others, lacks intent, ie you are not willingly harming others.

You could just be stupid. Some folks are. That doesn't make them sinners, but people that just lack the insight and awareness of their surroundings, and folks involved.

[Dogman]

I tend to think of sins as being intentional, knowing you are doing something wrong, yet doing it anyway. As people we do this, everyone of us. Being without thought towards others, lacks intent, ie you are not willingly harming others.

You could just be stupid. Some folks are. That doesn't make them sinners, but people that just lack the insight and awareness of their surroundings, and folks involved. But by the church, kids are born into sin.

So they are doomed from birth..

Bullshit

Tho in my time I have seen a couple of kids that were pure evil despite what the parents tried to do, from their birth to adult hood, one is dead and the other is serving life.

[Hitch]

But by the church, kids are born into sin.

So they are doomed from birth..

Bullshit

Not doomed but given the chance to live a life greater than their sins.

Basically, we all were born with a negative bank account (with God). He says embrace him, and when you die, you'll be in the positive account.

But, living, we still have a negative bank account. The life we live and the actions we do, to better humanity, makes a difference. Maybe we actually make that account positive, before we die. I don't know, but it's worth a try.

[Dogman]

Not doomed but given the chance to live a life greater than their sins.

Basically, we all were born with a negative bank account (with God). He says embrace him, and when you die, you'll be in the positive account.

But, living, we still have a negative bank account. The life we live and the actions we do, to better humanity, makes a difference. Maybe we actually make that account positive, before we die. I don't know, but it's worth a try. I like you and count you as a fiend ..


But ur statement is total bull shit..

life is life and we all have a choice how to live it for the good or the bad, as long as there are options to do so.

Mostly life is what we make it , by our choices and paths taken as we grow.

We all have had choices for right or wrong as we grow into our lifes until the day we move out of this life.

[Hitch]

I like you and count you as a fiend ..


But ur statement is total bull shit..

life is life and we all have a choice how to live it for the good or the bad, as long as there are options to do so.

Mostly life is what we make it , by our choices and paths taken as we grow.

We all have had choices for right or wrong as we grow into our lifes until the day we move out of this life.

I count you as a friend as well.

I agree with your post. Bottom line. The Catholic Church would not agree with my life choices. I feel, in my heart, God approves. I'm not harming anyone and my intentions are true.

[Dogman]

I count you as a friend as well.

I agree with your post. Bottom line. The Catholic Church would not agree with my life choices. I feel, in my heart, God approves. I'm not harming anyone and my intentions are true.

Go with the heart and not the church!

As long as no harm is done no sin!


The dam thing is

Catholic=need to be told what to do!

Which = controlled

Which = wrong and against everything I believe in!

Free choice is everything as no harm is done against anyone except yourself!

Said from the roots from my toes to the top of my head!

Do what you want as long as no harm is caused to others!

Charles!

Sent from my Nexus 7

[Neuro]

I think out-of-wedlock sex is a sin if you don't take full responsibility for the consequences of it, so can in-wedlock sex be. One would be abortion, another a man escaping his responsibility as a father, a third would be if you have promised someone else to be faithful to him/her, but it doesn't apply in in-wedlock sex...

[StreetsOfGold]

What is sin?
All unrighteousness is sin

See? it's a simple answer when you have God's word


1 John 5:17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.

[Hitch]

What is sin?
All unrighteousness is sin

See? it's a simple answer when you have God's word


1 John 5:17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.

Great, now we've got to find the definition of unrighteousness....

[Hitch]

What is sin?
All unrighteousness is sin

See? it's a simple answer when you have God's word


1 John 5:17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.

Not to dispute God's word, but unrighteousness is not the definition of sin. Unrighteousness is actually a synonym for sin, they are the same and mean the same thing. It's like saying the definition of a knife is a blade, it doesn't answer anything at all. Both terms are interchangeable.

[StreetsOfGold]

Not to dispute God's word, but unrighteousness is not the definition of sin. Unrighteousness is actually a synonym for sin, they are the same and mean the same thing. It's like saying the definition of a knife is a blade, it doesn't answer anything at all. Both terms are interchangeable.

If it's not "right" (unrighteousness) it's a sin.

Makes perfect sense!

If it's right - do it If it's not right - STOP, if you can't stop? kick yourself around the block

[ximmy]

Sin is action, verbal and non-verbal communications that can harm yourself or others. Some things are sin for some persons that may not be for others, depending on time and place where you live.

The apostle Paul says you should do nothing that goes against your conscience.

For the "converted" Christian, the conscience is empowered by the Holy Spirit. This spirit helps teach and guide the mind of the Christian to determine right action from wrong actions.

Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry. Because of these, the wrath of God is coming.You used to walk in these ways, in the life you once lived. But now you must also rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips. Do not lie to each other, since you have taken off your old self with its practices and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator. (Col. 3:5-10)

The goal of this command is love, which comes from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith. (1 Tim 1:5)