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Glass
26th October 2015, 08:17 PM
Who can see the issue with this little tale? A very creative way of getting out of an insurance claim but me thinks the tale be impossible.

There was another thread on this forum about this topic. I can't find it but dealt with how a woman will retain the DNA of all her sex partners and combine that DNA into any children that she has.

So a man, who has children with a woman who has either had children already or has unprotected sex, will bear children with mixed DNA.

Anyway, the IVF company has clearly told this guy an amazing whopper. I'm pretty sure this is not possible.


Dad learns that unborn twin 'fathered' his son

What if you learned that your father isn’t your father at all, but rather, your real dad is his unborn twin.
'Sorry sir, you’re not the father of your newborn child—your unborn brother is.'


A 34-year-old man has been told exactly that in the only known case of a paternity test being tricked by a so-called “human chimera,” the Independent reports.


In biology, a chimera is an organism composed of genetically distinct cells.
In other words, the dad was a “human chimera” who had soaked up the genes of a twin that perished in the womb, then passed them on to the son.


It began when a US couple learned that their son, born healthy in 2014 with the aid of a fertility clinic, had a different blood type to that of his parents.


Concerned, the husband took an at-home paternity test and learned that his DNA didn’t match his son’s.


Experts believe cells and DNA from the husband's miscarried sibling were absorbed while he was still in the womb.

“You can imagine the parents were pretty upset,” Stanford University geneticist Barry Starr told BuzzFeed.

“They thought the clinic had used the wrong sperm.

“Even geneticists are blown away by this.”


The clinic assured them there was no mixup, so the couple got a lawyer and approached Starr for help.

On Starr’s advice, the father and son took DNA ancestry tests and learned that genetically the dad was his son’s uncle.
“That was kind of a eureka moment,” said Starr.
“Chimera reports are very rare, but they are real.”


Link to story at the West Australian. (https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/29914885/dad-learns-that-unborn-twin-fathered-his-son/)

singular_me
26th October 2015, 08:31 PM
I dont know what to make of this but I know that there is no such a thing as junk DNA, a convenient way to keep many in the dark.

Dogman
26th October 2015, 08:42 PM
I know of a family here once that the dad had a kid that was his son and grand son. And I suspect there was a daughter also, He died but parts of that family still are here.

Which I suspect it not so uncommon in the greater scheme of thing overall, less that a percentage point , at least I hope so.

When it comes to people/humans anything is possible for the good and also the bad.

Glass
26th October 2015, 08:54 PM
Sorry but if the Father does not share DNA with this child, and the other child is shown to have DNA that matches with the born child, then the father cannot be related to either child.

If he is excluded from being the father of one, he is excluded from being the father of either.

But they spun this complete BS to bamboozle the family. The family who would have sued because they were given the wrong sperm or embryos.

vacuum
26th October 2015, 09:09 PM
Chimeras are really weird stuff. It's totally possible for one person to have multiple distinct sets of DNA inside of them.

Where it shows up in your body could be random. If one of the eyes are the other set of DNA, for example, you could have multiple different eye colors.

Maybe this guy just happened to have his testicles be the chimera part of him. That could cause his sperm to pass on the minority DNA.

Here are some eye color examples which could be caused by chimerism:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Heterochromia.jpg (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Heterochromia.jpg)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/PartialHeterochromia.jpg/220px-PartialHeterochromia.jpg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PartialHeterochromia.jpg)

Dogman
26th October 2015, 09:25 PM
Sorry but if the Father does not share DNA with this child, and the other child is shown to have DNA that matches with the born child, then the father cannot be related to either child.

If he is excluded from being the father of one, he is excluded from being the father of either.

But they spun this complete BS to bamboozle the family. The family who would have sued because they were given the wrong sperm or embryos.

It was know and proven that bastard was both the father and grandfather! He did share direct DNA, he died just as the case against him whent anywhere. He was screwing his daughter and had kids by him!

The family was like a small cult here and all in the house was related!

I knew a couple of the brothers, back when!

Seemed to be good guys but closed off when it came to family at the time!

Most when the truth came out moved out of time abt the time the dad died and the house burned down! Which was on a main drag and today is cleared other than a few shed's!

Fathers screwing daughters ?

Is more common than most suspect I think!

One inconvenienc fact of life, I suspect in some case's with some family's!

Rare yes!

But happens more so than most think!

Just saying from direct knowledge!

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Glass
26th October 2015, 10:20 PM
Thanks. I think that's a further example for the story told to the "father" being B.S. Maybe grandad's been dipping the wick.

Dogman
26th October 2015, 10:32 PM
Thanks. I think that's a further example for the story told to the "father" being B.S. Maybe grandad's been dipping the wick.

Exactly

But it was dad doing the dipping that made him a granddad/Father!

Truth

Sadly

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