Barry and Pentagram to send SpecOps to Syria as 'adviser's' to 'moderate' rebels

[midnight rambler]

And what happens when they find themselves on the receiving end of some Russian airstrikes?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obame-decides-on-small-special-operations-force-for-syria/2015/10/30/a8f69c0e-7f13-11e5-afce-2afd1d3eb896_story.html

[monty]

And what happens when they find themselves on the receiving end of some Russian airstrikes?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obame-decides-on-small-special-operations-force-for-syria/2015/10/30/a8f69c0e-7f13-11e5-afce-2afd1d3eb896_story.html


I was thinking the same thing. Being along side ISIS when the Russian jets attack isn't real good planning.

[govcheetos]

I thought we were isis?

[BrewTech]

And what happens when they find themselves on the receiving end of some Russian airstrikes?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obame-decides-on-small-special-operations-force-for-syria/2015/10/30/a8f69c0e-7f13-11e5-afce-2afd1d3eb896_story.html


Pretty sure that's the plan to escalate this death circus...

[midnight rambler]

Pretty sure that's the plan to escalate this death circus...

Pretty much a no-brainer.

[mick silver]

comment ...................Hmmm 1 hour ago 1
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Is there anybody out there that really believes that Washington is fighting AGAINST ISIS? All they're doing is sacrificing "some"...while the rest change labels, and get more free weapons courtesy of the US taxpayer.

Sure, Washington was calling them "freedom fighters" and "moderates" back when ISIS first started, but the whole point was to try and take Syria for the Saudis and the Turks.

Now, Russia is making a major dent in Washington's pet terrorists, so the original plans get changed. Now, that ISIS has someone that's REALLY fighting against them, Washington is shifting tactics to make a land grab using some other group of CIA funded "moderates". Remember when there were all these articles saying that the US had only 5-6 guys that passed their screening? Well either they decided to drop the screening process, or they were lying through their teeth...like usual.

If Washington were really interested in "regime changing" a psychotic despot, they could start in Saudi Arabia...where they just beheaded some kid for protesting against that ridiculous government. Or maybe they can "regime change" Erdogan...because he's committing GENOCIDE against the kurds. Of course that will never happen, because they're in bed with Washington. That's all it takes to make those "human rights" violations turn invisible.

[singular_me]

Crazed US Senator Attacks Defense Secretary for not Planning War With Russia!
CSPAN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC7Fz0d9H8M

[mick silver]

one more comment on the vid singular just posted ... Fag Linseed Greyham--puke is full of sh!t. Assad was re-elected over 82%. Assad had nothing to do with 225,000 Syrians killed. Was reported Syrian police were controlling a demo crowd..150 were killed by sharp shooters. Assad stepped in and brought order in. Remember WACO and Bill Clinton ordering the Killings of innocents? jUSA is hi jacked by evil war criminals--pathological liars --like Israel Firsters--liars as their trade.

[mick silver]

Russian TV: Exclusive footage of US military aid sent to ISIS and "moderate" terrorists in Syria . The people here in the U.S. are waking up to the criminal corruption but I think not enough people are awake yet, hopefully the world can hold out until that happens. Our government knows people here in the USA are waking up that is one reason they have staged military equipment all across the U.S. and they demonize the vets, tea party and people that support our constitution and bill of rights. We are being soft attacked by our own government. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42VsyPCTviM

[mick silver]

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Sharif Shehadeh told The Associated Press that the troops will have no effect on the ground, but that Washington wants to say it is present in Syria.
"What has happened to make America realize, after five years, that it should send between 30 and 50 military advisers?" asked Shehadeh, referring to the start of the country's crisis in March 2011 that has since killed more than 250,000 people.
American officials say up to 50 special operations troops will be sent to assist Kurdish and Arab forces in northern Syria.
A U.S.-led coalition has been targeting the Islamic State group with airstrikes since September 2014, killing 12,000 extremists without weakening the group.
The decision to send U.S. troops to Syria comes a month after Russia began launching airstrikes against insurgents in the country. Russia's airstrikes were agreed upon with the Syrian government.
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"When America sends ground forces into Syrian territories without an agreement with the Syrian government it becomes an intervention and aggression," Shehadeh said by telephone. "Will America allow Russian ground forces to go into America without an agreement? I think the answer is no."
The U.S. has conducted special operations raids in Syria before and is expected to continue to carry out more unilateral raids.
The U.S. decision came as activists said some rebel groups, as well as the main U.S.-backed Kurdish militia known as the YPG, are preparing for an offensive against IS in its de facto capital of Raqqa. Earlier this month, U.S. cargo planes dropped small arms and ammunition to Arab groups fighting IS in northern Syria in what appeared to be preparation for the attack.
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IS has several strongholds in the predominantly Kurdish province of Hassakeh that borders Iraq.
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(http://news.yahoo.com/photos/russian-foreign-minister-sergey-lavrov-left-un-special-photo-194152822.html)Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, left, UN Special Envoy for Syria Staffan de Mistura and U.S. …

The announcement was carried by the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights and social media pages of rebel groups.
The Rebels Army group carried the statement from the coalition's spokesman who goes by the name of Abu Ali as vowing to "cleanse Syria's soil from the filth of terrorist groups."
In the northern province of Aleppo, airstrikes believed to have been carried out by Russian warplanes have killed at least 64 people since Friday, the Observatory said. Another activist group, the Local Coordination Committees said airstrikes have killed about 75 people.
The surge in violence came after more than a dozen countries, including the U.S. and Russia, agreed during talks in Vienna on Friday to pursue a new peace effort involving Syria's government and opposition groups.
Also Saturday, international medical aid organization Doctors Without Borders said an airstrike and shelling in a market in the rebel-held Damascus suburb of Douma the previous day killed at least 70 people and wounded 550.
The group, also known by its French acronym MSF, said its facility nearest to the market had been bombed a day earlier and medical workers struggled to cope with the influx of wounded people. Many needed amputations and blood infusions, and the makeshift hospital could not handle the flood of critically wounded patients with its limited resources, the group said.
MSF has sent emergency supplies of IV fluids and bags of blood to the Douma hospital, where 15 people died and 100 were hurt on Thursday when the entrance was bombed.
"This massive bombing on a crowded market and the repeated destruction of the few available medical facilities breaches everything that the rules of war stand for," says Brice de le Vingne, Director of Syria Operations for MSF.

[mick silver]

a add on too this .......... House passes 2016 defense spending bill
The time of Israel REBECCA SHIMONI STOIL October 8, 2015, 3:11 am 1
The bill, which sets guidelines for defense spending for the 2016 fiscal year, would authorize the establishment of a joint anti-tunnel program between Israel and the US. The initiative would be funded up to $25 million per year, provided that matching funds are provided by Israel. The bill would also provide over $206 million earmarked for rocket and missile defense ventures, including $41.4 million for the Iron Dome project, up to $150 million for procurement of the David’s Sling, and a maximum of $15 million for the Arrow 3 Upper Tier Interceptor Program. That in addition to the 3 billions in annual military aid to Israel.

[Rubicon]

US pledges another $100 million to support Syrian opposition (https://news.yahoo.com/saudi-fm-assads-future-among-sticking-points-syria-123612784.html)

[midnight rambler]

US pledges another $100 million to support Syrian opposition (https://news.yahoo.com/saudi-fm-assads-future-among-sticking-points-syria-123612784.html)

Shit like this makes my head hurt.

[Cebu_4_2]

Shit like this makes my head hurt.


What happens when nobody accepts the USD? :o

[monty]

What happens when nobody accepts the USD? :o


My, and Ponce's social security checks will bounce.

[Cebu_4_2]

My, and Ponce's social security checks will bounce.


Not if you cash them in the USi

[mick silver]

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[monty]

Calculated to put American troops in danger’: Why US wants escalation in Syria


https://cdn.rt.com/files/2015.10/original/56344a0ec4618832348b45f7.jpg
Sending some 50 US advisers to Syria illegally to train the so-called ‘moderate rebels’ looks like a calculated move. If, or when, someone gets hurt, the US will have a pretext for boots on the ground, believes retired US Air Force Lieutenant Col Karen Kwiatkowski.


RT: Does this deployment mean Americans will be putting themselves in the direct line of fire in Syria?


Karen Kwiatkowski: I think there is a danger of that happening and I think that is part of why they are going there. I think they are looking for an excuse to up the ante, to send more troops and to have a crisis of some sort. Clearly the president has been lying, and so has Ash Carter, about what their real intentions are. So, in my opinion, I think this is provocative and I think it is calculated to put our troops in danger.


RT: How is that not a combat operation?


KK: Well, special forces are combat. And what the president said they are going to be opportunistic. When you are training and advising, you do not use the word opportunistic. Training and advising is a more steady state situation. So they are using the word opportunistic, they are expecting to get involved in combat operations, and they have sent combat troops to do that. I do not care how they have used the term for non-combat. This is combat.


READ MORE: US ground ops in Syria ‘illegal’, may lead to ‘unpredictable’ consequences (https://www.rt.com/news/319907-us-syria-unpredictable-consequences/)


RT: [I]They are going there to support the so-called moderate rebels. We know it hasn't been terribly successful. Why should this make a huge difference?


KK: In terms of helping the moderate rebels – if there are any that we can identify – it is not going to make any difference in that regard. This is about US exercising some power, some limited power that it has, to kind of assert its relevance, particularly in the face of our allies who are asking how we are helping or not helping them.


RT: Sure, but do you thinks this is a game changer or, perhaps, this is a question of timing, because Russia has obviously taken on Islamic State?


KK: I don't think it is a game changer in that regard. It is a gesture to kind of save face in some respects. But there is a real danger, that if our troops, even if it is a limited number, get killed, and if they get killed by, let’s say, Russian fire or something like that, than we have a big problem, that we are not able diplomatically or militarily able to deal with. So it is extremely foolhardy what they are doing. But yes, it is a gesture to show that the US is trying something. But it is a weak gesture and it is a dangerous gesture.


RT: And you mentioned the Russian airstrikes there and, presumably, Americans are saying we do need to speak with the Russians now to say where we are located so we don't get into an incident like that?


KK: You would think that. You would think so.

RT: But you sound like that might not happen?


KK: If you believe what the president and Ash Carter say, they aren't really seeking out any cooperation with the Russians. So perhaps behind the scenes they are. I would like to think that they care about the lives of our soldiers that they are sending over there and that they would coordinate, but their public rhetoric is that we will not coordinate. That is what I've heard unless something has changed. They are not really interested in coordinating with Russia, anything that Russia is doing in Syria. And by the way remember that it is an illegal act to send our troops into Syrian space, air space or ground space, without the permission of the government of Syria, which we do not have. So this is an act of war on top of everything else that makes this extremely stupid.



https://youtu.be/Om56V0l2HCA


RT: Americans clearly don't see that as a big issue, I mean it has been conducting airstrikes, despite it being against international law. It does not seem to matter in this case, at this stage anyway.


KK: It has not mattered in our policy in the Middle East for a long time. But I have pointed out that if our people killed, if we decide to make some sort of case about that, we are in the wrong totally in this, because we don't have permission of the Syrian government to put those troops there at all. They are there illegitimately. So when they get killed or injured or harmed we have a problem in a diplomatic sense.


RT: A public opinion sense too, I mean what was the reaction when the US soldier did die on a special operations mission in Iraq. Was there a big public outcry in America?


KK: No. Two things that I have noticed about this: one is there is no public outcry, not a lot of concern. I haven't seen a lot of attention given to this death. What surprised me was how much Ashton Carter and President Obama paid homage to this particular individual, called him a hero, and this is what we would like to see – some guy running into a fight and getting slaughtered in an illegitimate combat situation, because I think even in Iraq we still have some concerns there about what we are doing. They celebrated it. They tried to put a positive spin on it. American people aren't listening. We have a lot of other different things on in general. The American people aren't interested in what is going on in the Middle East. They don't want to get involved in it. But they really tried to spin the death of this soldier in a very positive way. And, I'm sure, to see if it can be sold. And, as far as I can tell, it was sold. Americans aren't interested, but they haven't really pushed back at the death of this guy. I think we've become inert to it.

RT: Just looking into the future, you foresee a similar thing?


KK: I do. I mean if you go in the middle of a fire storm in an ill-planned situation, then certainly, you can't say that anything the Pentagon is doing in the Middle East is well planned. They themselves admit this. So, yes, it is going to lead to the death of Americans. And given how they spun the death that happened last week we'll see more spinning and, you know, more of Russia as a 'bad guy’ in this situation, as they try to salvage what is left of their Middle East policy in this final year of the Obama administration, in these final months of the Obama administration...I hate to be cynical about this, but it is such a game that they are playing – no good results for our people, no good results for the Syrian people. It is not going to help the exodus of refugees at all. In fact, it will probably make it worse.


https://www.rt.com/op-edge/320271-syria-us-troops-deployment/

[monty]

Lawless’ Washington committing crimes against Syria – and the US Constitution




https://www.rt.com/op-edge/321031-us-congress-syria-isis/

[mick silver]

SpecOps were in Syria way before the killing started